Legally Armed Firearms Trainer Shoots Man Who Corners Him
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- Опубликовано: 30 июн 2016
- Would you have taken the route that this legally armed firearms trainer took? Would your other skills have come to the front, or would you shoot him as well? These kinds of encounters are why we post after action reports on Active Self Protection!
Original video, news story, 911 call audio, and more of the firearms trainer getting backed into a corner available here: get-asp.com/0enu
What does this video teach us about defending ourselves against an attack?
1. A life of self-protection must be dedicated to avoidance, de-escalation, and escape whenever possible. You win 100% of the fights that you don’t get in, so make a commitment to de-escalate, escape, or evade any encounter you possibly can. Having good situational awareness will give you more time and opportunity to see problems coming and formulate a plan to stay away and protect yourself without danger to yourself or others. This is always our first choice as self-defenders. This legally-armed firearms trainer tried pretty hard to de-escalate and escape, and that was a wise decision that probably swayed the DA quite a bit.
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To me it looks more like he went outside to get the guys plate number
DonateToMe GetAnHourWithAlex I agree to an extent what if they guy got the best of him and ended up with his gun it’s different when you have a gun on your hip and there is potential for the attacker to get a hold of it
He clearly gave him many warnings and the dude did not back off he deserved it if your attacking sombody with a gun your a dumbass
@D. w Any thoughts??? Yea. MINE YOUR OWN BUSINESS AND LET THE POLICE BE THE TOUGH GUYS. THE SAME WAY HE WOULD'VE MINDED HIS BUSINESS HAD HE NOT HAD A GUN ON HIM. HE WOULDN'T HAVE SAID A GODDAMN THING. Doesn't take guts to be a badass with a weapon. We expect kids to do the same but not adults. Society tells kids in gangs all the time, having a gun doesn't make you tough. Right?? Same for adults.
@D. w What's your thoughts on all of this white-on-white crime the country is plagued with?????
@D. w Agree with most of what you wrote. Just not the part where you spelled "redicules". I'm for certain you meant "ridiculous". 😏
@@whothatniggaonthatnag3510 your right. I don't have a big problem with him shooting the guy after he was attacked. But following him outside was stupid, then you hear these nuts trying to defend him by saying he was getting his tag# it dosen't matter , he didn't have any business out there. And a civilian court could consider it provoking him into a fight
The way he sits down and puts his hand on his head like he's contemplating his recent life decisions is gold.
@@rayharvey1330 not everyone is Rambo. I doubt many are even remotely skilled enough to deal with this kind of thing with only hand to hand, myself included.
@@rayharvey1330 so what should he have done at that point? I'm genuinely curious so I can try to understand. Big guy isn't even going to feel punches or kicks with all that lard in the way.
@@rayharvey1330 I’d like to see you constrain a man who is significantly bigger than you and who doesn’t want to be held down... you sound dumb asf
@@rayharvey1330 real easy to say that in the RUclips comment section buddy
He's possibly deranged.
A lesson here that wasn’t stated was that if you’re NOT armed and/or directly capable of action in the moment, stay away from the people who are. That clerk was consistently in the way of a clean shot and offered zero benefits to his presence. If you’re a bystander, go bystand somewhere safe and out of the way
Yeah very dangerous and hard to watch.. dont stand in the line of fire for God sake. Or walk behind a possible target of a shooting.
Get away dumbass
Ikr that guy gave me anxiety, very stupid behaviour
Moron was trying to save his stock from getting damaged.... that was the least of his worries.
If the clerk and the firearms instructor had teamed up and went hands on they could have forced the perp out of the store or held him down for Police.
He could have the choked the perp out instead of being a bump on a log
The patience of the instructor is astonishing even after that tussle, you can see he doesn’t want to use his firearm and he gave him all the chances he could… play stupid games, win stupid prizes
What's scary is that he's a firearms trainer. He has no business being one based on this video, lots of mistakes.
your clearly a white person , most likely a women who shares the same entitlement as the instructor. he used deadly force on a drunk man being annoying. he introduced life changing elements for no reason. he wanted to kill.
Such as?
Remember, in the Wild West, if an armed man shot an unarmed man in an argument, the shooter would be hanging on a tree the day after. Good old days are no longer there in America. Americans forget their own laws. Why the heck would he take out his gun and shoot someone unarmed? Everyone no longer has balls in their pants. This trainer is ridiculous.
Just wondering if this instructor will use this clip of what NOT to do.
Once that gun was out the clerk was stupid for being in the way constantly.
Everyone here was really stupid. The assailant for grabbing an armed man. The clerk for just about everything he did. The other shoppers for not running away immediately. More self defense situations are caused by morons than professional criminals.
@@Shorty_Lickens I think the clerk knew him. You dont get that out of control for no reason. All he had to do was lock the door and call 911. End of story
LordPhoenix140 I don’t think the clerk noticed he pulled the gun out
@Old Iron it was over until the dumb ass so called instructor went against what everyone is taught to do while obtaining a cc by following the upset man outside for what ever reason
Amen
The perp rubs his head like he had a hard day at the end there.
Drugs
Yep, probably would have gone home after a warning shot into the ceiling panels. Instead... sleep well or have bad memories = YOUR CHOICE 🌬🔥❤🇺🇸🍻
Lol
Yeah seen that too
@@TimZeTerrible There is NO warning shot in the defensive use of a firearm. That is just pure bovine scat myth and movie magic ... You will be held accountable for where that bullet went and what it damaged.
Trying to get to his car? Seems like he was trying to get the guy’s license plate.
That was my read on it. After the "man" assaulted the clerk by throwing an object at him, the firearms trainer walked out to get the license #, because he knew, being a witness, he would be questioned by police. Like Rittenhouse being in Kenosha that fiery, but most mostly peaceful night, hindsight is 20/20. In the end firearms guy and Kyle where not wrong.
I agree and the guy didn't like that
El instructor nunca debió regresar a la tienda sabiendo que había personas en el lugar debió quedarse afuera y sabra Dios ni tenía que disparar el hombre no le mostró tener un arma pues pienso que había mas espacio en el aire libre y asta lo podian ayudar a someter al agresivo.
💯 💯 💯
@@jnichols3 I’m so glad the media haven’t brainwashed everyone about that story
The way he rubbed his head was like "oh jee wiz it's been a rough day".
So what murdering is OK now?
even though I conceal carry, I simply prefer to avoid conflict of any kind. I don't go to dangerous areas, I generally stay away from strangers, and I keep my mouth shut. I give people plenty of room while driving and most importantly, I apologize before people get a chance to get upset. I ain't trying to piss people off or get involved or be a hero. My goal is simply to live and let live. It's a dangerous world out there, but simply keeping to ourselves will mitigate that danger significantly.
Absolutely, very wise of you.
No other way it should be done 👍
Amen brother.
I have absolutely no ego when I’m carrying.
Take my parking spot.
Cut in front of me, cut me off, it’s cool.
Call me any racial or derogatory slur.
I’m fine.
Endanger my life, or even worse, my family’s lives... That’s when I have a problem.
number one killers are heart disease cancer car accidents etc
If only more people shared this mindset, we might have a chance as a species
"What are you gonna do? Shoot me with your GUN?"
That's probably what that guy's saying prior of getting shot.
Why the hell do we shoot center mass (always like robots)? CENTER THIGH would drop him if you are a real gunslinger. Leg shot early can save lives. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸👍
A leg shot can hit your femoral artery and you'll bleed out in less than 2 minutes so no
@@TimZeTerrible Real life is not like the movies. Leg shot can kill easily
@@CentralFloridaHipHop I understand the issues and opinions on this one. I go back and forth knowing some successfully pull it off.
@@TimZeTerrible To prevent overpenetration.
The firearms instructor showed incredible patience.
and stupidity for exposing his firearm for his own ego. Unless you are a cop, expose a firearm only when you need to use it not when your ego needs it.
He shot the crazy right out of him. Had him reflecting on life and everything.
It takes a special kind of crazy to continually push a guy with a gun pointed at you while he is CONTINUOUSLY backing up.
The crazed man may have been medicated. I think even John (Correia) got it wrong when he suggested that the firearms instructor should have used both arms in warding the crazed man off. I think not. That would have given the crazy ample opportunity to wrest the gun away from the instructor.
Or he was suicidal
You can easily guess what the perp was saying "cmon shoot me shoot me, you pussy you aint got guts to pull the trigger" that's the reason why he kept harassing the man with the gun
Or a glass one too many.
@@69op2gg1005ify0m Darwinism
He wasent chasing him he was ovislouy getting the license plate number
Ur name is hanajinks don’t pick on his spelling bro grow up
hanajinks lol Americans are smarter than u think don’t be stereotypical bud.. ur jus a bias piece of crap
hanajinks who are u fckin grammar police?
@hanajinks auto correct messed me up so can everybody relax
Hey Hanajinks,
Where are you from?
The self control itself is amazing to me. I’d never be able to be that calm in such a tense situation. Major props to this guy and pretty much anybody with a gun on them haha
Every push justified the self defense more and more. He knew what he was doing. Covering his ass.
If he really exercised self-control, the guy would still be alive.
@@mariopalos9238 do you not think this very obviously justified shooting was not justified? If so I find it a scary thought that you can vote.
@@oakenmind C’mon, he literally brought the threat right back into the store.
One thing we are taught in the police academy is what this guy did, keep your gun side away from the suspect. In the store he switched sides which was textbook. Advice: do NOT open carry guys, I know it a constitutional right but it’s stupid. i never go to public places with my weapon in the open even if I’m a cop. Keep the tactical advantage on your side. Stay “undercover”. Stay safe.
yep!
Louisiana CCW harder to get than lots of other states and LA doesn't accept CCWs from states thar don't accept LA's.
Ludicrous political shit.
Louisiana CCW harder to get than lots of other states and LA doesn't accept CCWs from states thar don't accept LA's.
Ludicrous political shit.
Where do you keep the weapon then if you are a American you dont know shiit i heard somewhere you only need 16 weeks to become a us cops in some states American cops are a joke
Actually he looks like he was looking at his plate #
Almost certainly.
travelteam89 yeah that makes since and the guy didn’t want him to get it
maybe, or maybe he was suicidal/psychotic aggressive.
a person23675 you just proved the point being made
Brandon Keele yes, i see my mistake.
noticed at the first "confrontation" at the register. the gun owner moves to the other side of the guy, to where his gun isn't exposed. perfect!
Yeah, I came looking for a comment to this effect.
Very smart positioning and am surprised it wasn't picked up on. He not only secures access to his holster but also leaves the irate guy a free path to the door.
+Elmarby 👍exactly. didn't box the bad guy into a confrontation. gave him the option of fight or flight...nice catch!
correction...don't know if the guy was "bad", per se. just made a very bad decision.
Yeah I also came looking for this comment.
As soon as he identified the guy as a bit of a crazy, he repositions himself with his gun away.
I don't like that the clerk was behind the guy when he shot though.
Agreed, probably didn't see the clerk. Glad the perp stopped the bullet with his gut xD
You can't always avoid the fight. The fight comes to you.
Or in this case, inject yourself smack in the middle of it ("It" being a potato chip fight at a gas station mini-mart)
When a guy practically requires you to shoot him. This must guy have had a lifetime of anger management issues. I honestly don't think I would have as much restraint as the firearms instructor. 2 or 3 pushbacks and the guy keeps coming, not listening to verbal commands to stop or step back, continually backing you into a corner. Time to stand you ground and stop the threat.
One thing I’ve learned about these videos to increase my chances of staying alive is to not go to convenience stores. Thanks !
I've walked in on, or been inside five times during robberies.
@@jamesortiz5388 WOW!!!! My brother has been a clerk at convenience stores for over 10 years and he's been robbed almost 100 times!!!!!!
Convenience stores and Brazil! Just don't go there!
Pay gas with credit, but food at a real grocery store. Being a clerk at one of these places is probably too 3 most dangerous jobs
@@sgt_retiredcharlie4102 I believe it! Those stores are crazy!
@@sgt_retiredcharlie4102 I almost shot once the bullet stuck in the door frame.
First thing I noticed was at the counter the instructor moved so he guarded his firearm side before things even really started.
I noticed that too. Something I do all the time whether I'm CC or OC!
Charles Schuhart same here lately I’ve been CCing more last time I open carried I was at a gas station buying some stuff n a kid screamed mom he has a gun loud af n everyone looked at me like I was fucked in the head or sum shit
@@HumanRamenPersonThing lol
@@HumanRamenPersonThing I think more people should OC, so kids would see it as normal desirable behavior.
European Empire that’s a great point And would be amazing
The victim showed tremendous restraint and didn't get aggressive back, just defended his life. I don't know if many people could show that much calm and restraint.
ASP Thankyou so much for every single one of your videos I hope it never happens but if there comes a time I need to protect myself or my family from a deadly encounter I feel much more confident I’ll be able to navigate my way around the situation…. So yea me & thousands of other viewers applaud and thank you directly from our hearts you’ve potentially saved many more lives than you realise just from giving us all the mental/physical tools we need to stay safe…. Cheers mate all the way from New Zealand 🇳🇿 And please can YOU STAY SAFE we all need you you deserve to live a very long happy fulfilled life!!!! I hope we get the chance to meet one day but either way I’m a massive Fan big love from a ASP Kiwi 💯🇳🇿🖤🇺🇸🤙
That instructor gave him every opportunity to rethink that course of action
If the CC hadn’t of went outside after him the guy would have driven away. He was just in the process.
he went to get his plate number as he should have. he was not a snowflake. the dead guy was looking to hurt anytone, and was dealt with.@@alextaylor8776
I figured he did not want to be over powered and have his weapon taken from him.
Yep.
I'm a co-yep on that.
#Unjustified
Then leave the store. Dont follow him. Or have clerk guy lock the doors when he left out, then call police. Gun guy was a big bitch. He was itching to use that weapon. He didn't need to shoot him AT THAT MOMENT. Use them hands on him. If the hands don't work, and you take an L, let it be. Only justification is if blue shirt guy is completely pummeling you to the point where you don't think he's gonna stop. Then you have every right to put some hot lead in ass.
#WhiteOnWhiteCrimeIsOutOfControl
@@jamesporter6288 He fired one shot because he took the class and the class tells you to exhibit 1 shot until the assailant shows you he's still dangerous. If you overkill, you can be charged with murder.
@@whothatniggaonthatnag3510 dumbass
Gave that guy literally every single chance to back off. I respect he took a gut shot as well. He clearly wasn’t trying to end the man’s life, just defend himself.
Yeah I saw that too, could’ve easily got him in the neck or some type of artery. Just boom in the stomach.
Guts are vital organs, so gut shots are often fatal, as was this one.
The aggressor didn’t make it? .. or not?
He was justified 100%. The guy wasn’t going to take a “calm down brother”.
The clerk kept getting in the way there at the end, it was driving me crazy lol
@@rayharvey1330 Hand to hand with a gun on your hip isn’t the greatest of ideas if it can be avoided.
@@richardyoung6472 ahahahahah
@@rayharvey1330 you commenting the same thing lol
Honestly🙄
He should have cathced som lead as well.
Firearm instructor: *I've been training for this all my life*
😂😂😂😂😂
And failed
@@patrick4919 lol, no
yep
training wrong: could have been a 2 handed defense if he was carrying concealed. no trained self defense carrier openly carries. this was not a justified shooting.
working in law enforcement i can say if im alone with no help (the store owner was not help) and i have a firearm i am not going hands on like you said. i have no idea who this guy is and if i lose that struggle and i have a gun on my hip he can overpower me and get it from me. of course you have less lethal tools like peper spray, tazer, baton. but in this guys case he doesn't have those to use first and the risk of loosing the firearm in a hands on struggle is to big, he made the best call he could. now if backup is there thats different if i lose that fight i have someone who i know will help
3:29 It looks more like he’s trying to get the angry man’s license plate and angry man is trying to block it’s view.
This is why I personally CC, sometimes open carry is a magnet for people looking for a fight.
@Dave C Some people believe a criminal won't commit the crime they are about to do if they see an armed person.
I'm sure this has occured but who knows what kind of prevention has actually happened. I personally CC.
Edit for spelling.
You make yourself a target.
Yeah. I keep mine concealed. Not perfectly. A keen eye could tell I have something but then again 9mm can only be so small and I dont want to go .380
@@Jonbo117 I cc my snub snose 38 special i can hide it anywhere
I agree totally with that statement. Or if a perp comes up behind you and plans on robbing a place or you, he can grab your gun and shoot you before you know what happened. I would not open carry a weapon it’s more dangerous for you. I’ve seen open carry guy’s acting all big bad ass and that pissed me off arrogance will get him hurt. Concealed carry is the best way i believe, they are the smart ones.
looks like he was getting his license plate number to me
Yep and that's probably what set him off against that guy.
@willie peppers, we are the universe. We are made from stardust. That is a fact.
Get his license plate number get in you car and call the cops. HE DIDNT HAVE TO SHOOT THIS GUY HE COULD HAVE RAIN AWAY
What I take from this, leave people alone. Never be afraid to apologize and deescalate and even leave but sometimes someone might just force you to protect yourself and if so dont hesitate.
That is why I prefer concealed carry... because if someone is being aggressive towards you, you can use your empty-handed skills, and only use your firearm as a last resort.
When you open carry, the moment someone becomes highly aggressive towards you, if you leave your firearm in your holster, it could end up being used against you, so it perpetuates the necessity to draw your weapon, so its less likely to be used against you... but if you concealed carry, then the perp wouldn't know you were armed, and therefore wouldn't automatically go for your gun.
To be fair I haven't read many replies, Eric is the only one so far that makes any sense. this video is indefensible as training, except for everything up to the point where the open carrier gun s out like a pussy that's afraid of words. I'm not afraid of words, words don't kill or allow you to touch or hurt somebody, actions do. However words can bring you up to level orange.
People refuse to be men and women. Nothing but overgrown toddlers these days. Screw able bodied adult men solving their own disputes and issues. Lets just verbally initiate altercations and then rely upon law enforcement to solve all of them for us!! After all this very thought process isn't even partially responsible for the destruction of our planet!
+Steve Moore Common sense aint so common is it. Due to my appearance many people discount whatever input I may have to offer. This is a trip to me because I honestly cherish being alive and consistently treat individuals how I would like to be treated regardless of financial status or appearance. God bless america..right? LOL
You have far more chances of being attacked when the bad guy doesn't know you're armed, by the time the perp finds out you got a gun, might be too late for them. would you attack a armed person? i wouldn't, this dude is/was obviously unstable.
I also do concealed carry. It makes the atmosphere less aggressive specially during confrontations like these.
The shopkeeper is clueless wtf is he doing he could get shot
Just another day in America
Michael Myers Yes, another day in America where Law abiding citizens with guns have to deal with the repercussions of the actions of insane idiots
MICHXEL Yeah, no other country has any crime that may require self defense.
@@Mens_Rea You mean where a guy is able to defend himself because he had a weapon?
It always blows me away how people will literally attack and go after people who are armed
The firearms instructor looked like he followed the offending party outside to get his license plate number.
I really appreciate your videos. I'm a 60 year old woman who works in a grocery store... Very small grocery store. I think about this a lot. I would love to take some classes and get my gun license and concealed carry permit. I just don't think anyone else around me could protect me or anyone else in the store if someone came in causing trouble or trying to rob the place. You are very informative and easily understood.
You need to do this! If you aren't familiar with guns, any gun store in your area will be glad to help you find one that suits you, and steer you towards a good trainer (if they don't have one on staff). If you are in central Texas, I'll be glad to teach you, myself!
Please do.
Being female, 60 and on your own makes you an easy target.
Please update us on your progress. Stay safe
I love older women. What you look like?
Stay safe, Theresa.
Good idea! Make sure you have security cameras etc so that you get evidence and you have something to get the robber on camera for police to use and if you get a gun make sure you have to behind the counter so that you have a quick draw of a robber comes
The story said he was shot a total of three times and took the room temperature challenge. Yea great idea to keep coming at someone that has a gun pointed at you. The man clearly had a death wish.
What’s the room temperature challenge?
Ginger Sam the dead’s mans family no doubt will file a civil suit. And a jury might consider his following him out as provoking a confrontation. Some of these idiots are making him out to be a Super Instructor that did nothing wrong As well as possibly saving people’s lives, and making the chip throwing man out as a criminal. As well as they seem to be able to read these two men’s mind and knowing there every motive
Ginger Sam he threw a fucking bag of chips. Lol
Ginger Sam - you kidding? Didn’t seem dangerous? He was following the guy and pushing/shoving him.
White Mamba Death.
The instructor wasn't trying to get to his car, he was trying to get the plate number, which pissed the guy off
Carrying has made me way more calm in public and on the road. The last thing I ever want to do is use my firearm on someone. I only have it in case I need to use it, and I pray I never have to.
I'm a MUCH more calm driver when I carry, as I hope to avoid any issues.
To quote one of the Alien vs Predator movies: "it's better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it!". 👍
For anyone wanting to know what happened, I will give a quick summary. Shawn Breland was the man who began the confrontation with the cashier. The firearms instructor went to get the plate number after the guy actually broke a law in front of him. After Shawn got out of the vehicle to confront him, he said he had his plate number, and the man followed him back into the store. After he had backed him into a corner, he shot him. Shawn Breland eventually died from the gunshot. The firearms instructor had no duty to retreat, was covered by Louisiana's stand your ground laws, and was not charged in this incident.
You know the case and the law. This would be a good shoot in 99.9% of the US. The man backed up and backed up and this guy kept coming even though the little guy had his gun out. No DA would dare indict this man. The video exonerated him completely.
@@paulkerzee858 Wrong Charlie. You know nothing about the law. The evidence was plain in the vid. Quit trolling. Only makes you look stupid! BYE!
I figured he died. Getting shot in the abdomen is never good. Most likely bleed out internally.
The guy was stupid to keep coming at the guy with the gun, but he should not have followed him out of the store. That is not standing your ground that is pursuing.
@@johnnyvicars8207
He didn't follow him to his car, he litterly walked to the center of the parking
lot to get the license plate number, he was at least 10 feet away from the car.
It was the perp who escalated the situation by getting back out of car..
The firearms instructor is totally allowed to do this, the perp or his lawyer cannot argue that the firearms instructor is not allowed to walk across the parking lot.
Looks like the guy was trying to get his license plate number. Be a good witness for when the police arrive.
I actually disagree when you said you wouldn’t follow him outside. He could’ve been going to his car to pick up a gun to go back in, I’ve seen enough crazy people on these videos to realise that people are very unstable so it was, in my opinion, a good move from the good guy.
This was my first active self protection video i watched back then when i was 20 years old cant believe 7 years passed fast😅 all his videos has really helped out in my carrer as security keep safe out there
It looks like the guy came outside to get his license plate number
yeah
exactly
As any responsible citizen should when witnessing what they believe is a crime in progress.
tcorourke2007
You mean "some jerk" that threatened innocent people, acting aggressively and potentially carrying a concealed weapon? A man that could have been an ex-con for all they (or we) know? Yeah, they should have definitely allowed him to do as he pleases, even if it meant allowing him to injure or kill someone. [/sarcasm] You can dream up whatever alternate storyline you prefer, but fact of the matter is, you're benefiting from hindsight. Next time you're caught in a situation where an obviously unstable and violent man starts threatening your life or a loved one's, let's see how you handle things. He could be "dumping a bag of chips" one minute, and pulling out a concealed weapon the next. And when that happens, you'll probably wish a good guy with a gun was there to stop the nutjob chasing after you.
tcorourke2007
He was acting to collect information that would be important for law enforcement. Something that ANY responsible or concerned citizen should do. A license plate number is critical information in a case like this. His actions may not have helped to diffuse the situation, but it would have helped gut an unstable jackass into the correctional system. Sounds as if you'd prefer he be allowed to go on his merry way to harass more innocent people or perhaps even commit terrible acts against the defenseless.
the instructor gave him plenty of chances to back off
The armed individual should have backed off. Did he try to call the police? I don't see a life or death situation here. I see a guy with some serious problems, confront another guy with serious problems who has sweat stains down the back of his shirt, and decide to let himself get cornered by re-entering the smaller space, forgoing the spacious protection of the wide, vast outdoors. One guy was unarmed. If you choose to walk around this country armed, please stop feeling it's justified to shoot an unarmed person who confronts you. He should be charged with brandishing a weapon. He didn't get touched till he pulled a weapon.
@@CH-rt8qw Either we are watching two different videos or you are just completely ignorant and blind. I'm gonna go with answer B, and everyone else can say the same. Btw, you said "Did he try to call the police?" uhhh.. I'm sorry but I don't think he is that good at multi tasking.
Laughing Gamer I agree with you. The instructor showed a tremendous amount of patience with the guy that was pushing. He also had control of his demeanor to only fire one shot. You can easily lose it emotionally and pop a few within seconds. Great mental stability and emotional control!
85577alarm Yes but there is always "shoulda" or "coulda" or "woulda". He handled it excellently.
85577alarm Respect 👍
Man I just got my CCW and am not very familiar with all of this, these videos have taught me so much. I gotta get more practice on my draw and mental fitness and make sure I always have my tools ready
Advice: You are not a LEO now. And don't take any classes from the "Firearms Instructor" in this clip. You'll end up in prison, or killed, or crippled and sued, if not all four. I got so tired of not being allowed to confront people in the slightest when carrying, I'd leave it home some days just so I can "adjust" bad attitudes that might need a verbal tune up. It's a massive responsibility and LIABILITY.
You sure sound unsafe and unsure to be carrying a firearm. Just don't carry one
This is amazing I've had people put hands on and touch me all my life without permission. It takes alot to keep your patience
When the firearms instructor went outside , whether or not he was going to his car , he looked at the crazy guys' LICENSE plate and the bad guy did NOT like it....
Not a smart move
@@jakeartemis3470 the way the crazy guy reacted was not a smart move. I don't put any sort of blame on the firearm instructor, you never know when something is going to go south fast. You never think that looking at someone's plates would cause this sort of problem... Shit happened and the treat was stopped. That's all that matters.
@@brogamer4520 I think myself and a lot of other posts on here are just pointing out that if you cruise around with open carry looking for trouble, you'll find it. That guy was amateur hour
@@jakeartemis3470 my only concern was that he was an old guy acting like a young man. But he atleast covered his asp.
@@jakeartemis3470 Open carrying with Punisher skulls on his shirt.
To me it seemed like he was going for a plate number
Yep.
That and to make sure that the guy wasn't going back to his vehicle to get a gun and go back inside to threaten the clerk with it.
What dose plat him mean? I'm Australian
the license plate # on his vehicle
The fuel station would have had the car registration any way on the stores CCTV, so the man with the gun did not need to get it, as the police could see the CCTV from the store play back to get the plate number.
I had a gun 50 years ago when I was young and lived in a dangerous Philly neighborhood. After several incidents in which I took out my gun, I decided I did not like who I was becoming, that the gun was changing me and making me less cautious, and I moved. When I had children I sold the guns. Then, when we moved from Philly to a rural setting where people hunted and sailed and fished and rode dirt bikes on mx tracks, we bought a 22 varmint rifle and a 20 gauge shotgun to keep birds off my boat and also so any of my four sons who wanted to try duck hunting, could. In my divorce my wife falsely accused me in a police report “He’s got guns. He said he was going to stab or kill us.” I’m not an idiot. Obviously I did not say that. One does not stab another with a gun. One shoots with a gun. Further stab and kill are not synonyms. Therefore you would not connect them like that. But this is what happens to guns in our culture. Later she accused two of our sons of threatening to kill them. She told the police that unless they arrested the two boys that night she would be dead in the morning. That’s when the police caught on and the Attorney General of our state wrote her a letter.
The trick in life is to stay as far away from terrible people as you can. Nothing is more important for the quality of your life.
Ah, I see you attract the crazy ones too! Red flags? Please, I collect red flags. In all honesty though, I'm sorry you guys went through that. I've seen how an unstable parent affects a child's upbringing. A woman I dated about 8 years ago was a paranoid schizophrenic. Even with medication (her, not me), she was difficult to be around. She had a 10 year old daughter who was amazingly brilliant! Unfortunately, her mom wouldn't allow her to have much of a life outside of school. When I started building her mom a new PC, I asked if she wanted to help. Damn she caught on quick! And loved it. Not long after that, she joined the robotics club at school (where was this when I was in school?) and one of the years they made it to a state competition!
This is the definition of "f*k around and find out."
You sometimes wonder how someone like that made it in life all the way to that age when they act like that
I just had an encounter with someone this crazy! I was doing work at his house. He had no internal control over his emotions! I believe he is psychotic and a danger to others...and after 2 weeks, I left. I felt very scared of him. I'm an Army Vet, and not easily shaken. I've been in fistfights when I was younger, lol so I'm not pussified...but damn! This guy was unhinged mentally. The littlest thing would get him upset...then he would begin to escalate it in his mind, and his temper would flare!
Hypothetical scenario:
Let's say his car wont start? Most of us check gas, battery. Which he might do...but then he would walk around the yard, screaming...working himself into a babbling frenzy...blaming Ford, his wife for not checking the gas, his dog for making his wife forget gas (she had to pick up dog poop), he'd kick the car...
You get it.
The guy was a felon too.
He's been open carrying for a long time .. waiting for this moment obviously. Need skills if you want to white knight though
Probably had a mommy that kept bailing him out.
@@val13c59 My name is not David, and yes.
@@lowellirish hahaha you are a natural bro,you made me laugh so hard...you have to be a comedian or a writer of some sort
Before anyone starts to speculate... remember.. you can't convince a crazy person to do anything.
Yup and i see 2 of them in this video.
Nobody can convince me to do anything either only fools get convinced.
Jason Brooks that’s not true I just convinced my wife to let me buy a new truck🙌
Joe Abdo was she drunk or did she say something like “you do what you think is best” the second is a trap. The first one is on you.. lol
Jason Brooks your right!, try to convince libtard trump didnt' collude' w russia, aint gonna happen
I come for the vids and stay for the hilarious comments. God Bless all of you. Protecting your families and yourself is a value that should we should all have in common.
I remember this one, but I always watch the old ones.
the instructor was trying to get the guys tag number
That's what I assume, it's just he has the all the subtlety of a bull in a china shop. I would've waited for the truck to leave and get the plate, or I would go up to the car at the pump like it was mine and read the plate out of the corner of my eye.
l337pwnage not all states have the plate on the front of the car
Das Boot
I know, but unless he plans on driving out of the whole parking lot and down the road in reverse, you'll get a chance to look at the rear.
I wasn't even thinking of trying to see the front plate, TBH.
Yamaha JayP .that was pnut.pnut don't play.
Some stares only have rear plates.
the gun instructor was getting the man's license plate for the store clerk. he was not intervening in any way.
How do you know as you can't hear what was said before he walked outside. The fact remains that no lethal force was necessary in this case. The (fat, out of shape) guy (with no weapon) only pushed him so he deserved to get killed? I think not
Right.
Wrong. He had assaulted at least 2 people and was out of control. Apparently the DA agreed and said it was justified.
JL when he went outside that was intervening the situation was over and he started it back u again..there was plenty of video cameras that probably got his license plate..if not who cares it was a police matter the threat was over..lets hope the shooter had his guns taken off him and prison time for shooting an unarmed man
I agree. There's tough-guy twats here that say he had it coming for his attack earlier (throwing a few things around and upsetting but hurting no-one? THAT?)
He is trying to get his license plate number and that makes the aggressor mad
i love slowly, but surely, catching up on your videos since i have recently discovered your channel. the hubby and i are both retired pd so i told him about your channel too. so, in this video, what i see is that a bag of ice was over 5 bucks and this is an older video. 😅
Well the shooter could have taken a huge risk to try and use hand to hand combat on a much bigger opponent. He could have easily gotten overwhelmed and shot with his own gun. He gave the aggressor a large number of chances to leave him alone. The aggressor sees he has a gun, but kept pushing and pulling on him and backed him into a corner. He was asking to be shot really.
Also you can't assume his physical status. He may not be capable of using hand to hand combat.
Squiddi
That to. Even if he can it would still be very risky with a guy the size of the deceased.
LOL that's a HUGE assumption. Firearms instructors aren't all hand to hand experts. And training schools rarely focus on firearm retention skills. You have nothing to base that off of.
Anthony Williams that's like saying all women can cook. in reality not all women can cook. where did you learn that... not everyone who is a firearms instructor or expert has a blackbelt
Charles Mowa
Wrong person mate. I never said that at all.
He was walking out to get the guys plate. And that pissed the crazy gun off
did the guy die?
The gun couldn't help it.
Yep 👍🏼 a good open carry guy should have binoculars on him at all times
To get the license plate number
It’s not his dog. I don’t see why he had to butt in. If you’re carrying you have to be the bigger man.
Very smart to run back into the store.
John, agree with you 100%. I would not have followed the guy to the parking lot, or tied up my right hand with a weapon so early.
I am a Police Officer and I want to thank you for your videos. We often get complacent while on the job and these videos help remind us that all the training in the world can never fully prepare us for actual encounters like these. God bless you for saving lives every day. Godspeed!
You guys execute over a thousand people a year. Not complacent.
@@etywrtyjfgj do you think this guy personally executes people? hes doing his fucking job u dumbass
These videos definitely help prevent complacency
- and the criminals are such upstanding citizens?
Thank you for serving your community and keeping people safe.
I love the look on the perp's face when he finally gets to the FIBS point.. that hand brushing through his hair is priceless
2:39
it looked like he was reflecting on his life choices.
: about him primping his hair, *i guess you wanna look good when you go down..
What's a FIBS point? Google was not helpful
@@JohnnyTromboner F*** I've Been Shot
Could not disagree more with not following him out. He followed him out to make sure the perp was not going to get a gun. Great move by the hero in this case! Otherwise, if the perp comes back in with a firearm he has the leg up as the good guy's gun is likely still holstered and his back possibly turned to him. Again, great call by the hero! Perfect execution!
Is he you Dad? (wink)
He was probably trying to get the perps license plate number.
If he was concerned about the perp getting a gun he could have watched from the doorway
and told the clerk to lock the door, locking the perp outside.
Legend has it this guy is still clumsily trying to attack the guy with a gun to this day.
Nope, he died from the gunshot
this is where martial arts come in to play
Most martial artists would not be carrying a gun to begin with and would rely solely on their hand to hand skills. The fact of the matter is, if you carry any sort of weapon for self defense, you need to be willing to use it when someone is going to close the gap on you. You cannot risk losing the weapon to them in a hand to hand situation. Losing the weapon means turning the attacker into a lethal threat and all people could easily die in the situation.
From what I'm seeing he follows him out to grab his plate number. If you notice the car at the pump had no front plate which is legal is some states.
Hints as to why he went to the back of the vehicle.
+Brandon Blount Kind of a shitty situation but getting the plate is very necessary in any kind of incedent. If it ended there he could've turned that info over to the police. But the perp knew that and acted the way he did. trying to block his view and being irrational because of his own actions just moments ago.
+Brandon Blount ughh... ugly stuff... Yeah I'm not a Muslim fan but freedom of religion is a thing and I respect that.
+Brandon Blount Mostly the Sharia BS...
+Kalin J Have you ever "cold cocked" someone... it's not a sure thing like In the movies. While I agree the guy seemed impaired and possibly easy to overcome why gamble with your life?
I like how he sat down. Looks like his tummy hurt. 😊 As always john is incredibely thorough. A lot of people don't have empty handed skills. Empty handed skills are for people that want to save the perpatrator's life.
That head rub when he went down after getting shot.. he thought “wtf am i doing?”
I think he was getting his plates, not cutting him off.
Kait K shit you’re right
Exactly. Someone smart lol
You misunderstand... the guy "cutting him off" is the crazy guy. "Him" is the instructor. He repeats later that he thinks the instructor is going to his own car, but is cut off.
I admit, he phrased it very poorly the first time, but contextually it's pretty obvious what he was trying to say.
But you're right, the instructor was probably getting crazy's plates, not going for his own car.
R Nickerson Yes because he went to a store to buy something. Then leaves with nothing. No sense 😂
The guy was clearly unhinged. Also most sane people would back off once they saw the firearm.
This guy was on a suicide by stranger mission.
I am not sure he knew he had a gun
@CrazyLegsMcGee I am not sure he even knew there was a gun involved
Doc Undies you know I don’t have a big problem with him shooting the guy after he was attacked or if he would have went back in the store and attacked someone. But following a quote UNHINGED person outside, I don’t care if it was to get his tag# or offer him a blow job was a stupid thing to do and just because he wasn’t convicted in a court of law doesn’t mean he is off the hook. Just ask OJ , a civil lawsuit is a different story. They will offer up he was provoking him by following him outside. I am no trial lawyer but my son-in-law law is. He thinks the family will have a good case against the shooter
When he finally goes down you can see the regret in his face.
This is what a guy looks like, that desperately needed a beer, 35 minutes ago, after a brutal day at work . And, is still waiting in line...
😕😤😡👹☠ !
The money I’d pay to see this as an episode of Gas Station Encounters......she gown!
😂😂
I thought it was there for a minute !
The firearm instructor was trying to get the guys license plate number not go back to his own car
It looks to me like the instructor was trying to get his license plate number, and then the guy gets out and tries to block his view of his tag.
#Unjustified
It looks to me like gun guy was a big bitch. He was itching to use that weapon. He didn't need to shoot blue shirt guy AT THAT MOMENT. Use them hands on him. If the hands don't work, and you take an L, let it be. Only justification is if blue shirt guy is completely pummeling gun guy to the point where gun guy don't think blue shirt guy is gonna stop. Then you have every right to turn that blue shirt red.
#WhiteOnWhiteCrimeIsOutOfControl
DonateToMe GetAnHourWithAlex nah looks justified to me. He was obviously a threat but the gun instructor didn’t immediately use his weapon. He gave him many chances to back off and didn’t use his gun until he cornered him. He was smart enough to point his hip away so the guy in the blue shirt wouldn’t reach for it. Blue shirt man was practically asking to get shot.
@P Botrel Schlong Ding Dong King Kong Eddie Long Big Bong Bikini Thong
The fuel station would have had the car registration any way on the stores CCTV, so the man with the gun did not need to get it, as the police could see the CCTV from the store play back to get the plate number.
He just CAUGHT that bullet. No exit on this big fella
My god. Dude had more patience than a Jedi
There is a legitimate reason for following the aggressor. He had already left once and returned with something to throw. The second time he left, he may have returned with a weapon. At that point the open carry individual would have lost control. He may have been thinking of protecting the lives of the other people nearby.
billiondollardan You make a good point. I think that the firearms instructor was trying to protect the others here. If the bad guy would have just gotten into his car and drove away, that would have been the end of it. The gun guy gave him every opportunity to leave. I think he did all that he could, but in the end the bad guy forced him to shoot.
Hats off to u .. This might be the exact thing for which he followed back the bad guy
GforceGT You're stupid.
The guy returned with the bag of nuts he bought and threw them at the guy. As others pointed out, he went followed him for the plates, but I just wanted to further point out that the guy didn't technically go out and grab something to throw at the clerk. He just went out and came back with the bag of nuts he bought. Not like he picked up a tire iron or some trash from outside, it was something already in his hand.
I like batman ya but who knows what's in the car yanno
Love how ppl say "he was unarmed so shooting was taking it too far" after everything is done. How can you possibly know what someone is carrying and how far they will take things in the moment. The attacker was clearly in the wrong and you have to be the dumbest person in the world to attack someone who is openly carrying and draws on you. Like come on people, use some common sense. So what if he was unarmed, if you are the aggressor either man up and be ready to face what you brought on yourself or go home. The instructor was defensive the whole time until he was cornered by a larger man with no obvious regard for his own life. If that's not a moment to use a firearm then idk what is.
John C. His mental condition might have prevented him from knowing or comprehending the fact he had a gun. I don’t have a big problem with him shooting the guy after he was attacked. He should have never put him self in that situation. People want to give him a pass because he was getting his tag#. It doesn’t matter if he was out there getting his tag or offering him a blow job. He will probably have to justify his being out there to a civil jury who could very well consider he was provoking him. I bet if he had a do over he would have kept his ass in the store. I am thinking the store clerk has a lot to do with him getting out of control. This vid isn’t telling the whole story
@@garyhaley3072 He wasn't out there with the intent to provoke the guy. He went out to check the guys license, and the guy started getting far far too aggressive. It's not like he shouted from his car or stepped out and shouted, he went and followed him into the store, pushing him around and not standing down even after the guy pulled a weapon. He could have stopped and walked away.
@@Winasaurus pure speculation on your part
@@garyhaley3072 checking the guys plates? That's not speculation at all. Watch the video, you see him go way far to the right, not walk right after the guy, and he leans down and to the right to get a better view of the plates. The guy even gets out of the car, and waves his hand in front of the plates to try blocking the guys view. What do you think that lean was? What do you think the guy was doing waving his arm like that? It's obvious he was checking the plates.
@@Winasaurus ok I got it now. If I stick my nose in someone else's business and end up shooting someone all I got to say is ( I was just getting his tag # ) I for got about the getting his tag# get out of jail free card
I dont open carry because I feel like it's a magnet for trouble sometimes. I conceal carry just in case. I stay out of trouble and am very polite, I never want to shoot anyone, but if my life is in danger, i have self defense on me.
I think that this situation could have gone so much better.
I like how the firearm instructor goes to the other side of the bad guy, making sure that his gun isn't facing the dude.
I saw that too.
: that's the only thing he did right, up until the part where he followed the threat outside,
then allowed himself to be forced into a position of limited choices..
he actually baited this situation..
Wow. What an "Operator."
@@DTO.. Bingo!
Yeah, right after he let the perp stand behind his back, with a clear line of sight to his gun.
I was concerned he would pull a weapon out of the car
Manic Gene exactly
I’m a concealed carry holder…one advice, if you know with confidence and without a doubt you can knock someone out who’s acting this type of way and behavior, knock ✊ them out and don’t use it unless you can’t fight with shit…
Sounds good when you're in your 30's and 40's, but when you get in your upper 60's, with health issues, your firearm can be an Equalizer
@@rodneyjones8433 I agree 💯brother
Well done Sir
he was trying to take a look at the license plate in order to report it to the police. I would have tried the same too.
Then you're complicit in his behavior. It's morally wrong. There's nothing wrong with getting the plate so the cops can catch him. It is your civic duty. '...for good men to do nothing.'
xtremecyclesports Actually you fucking jackass, you need to get over your self righteous indignation. LOL
Unfortunately, it would be an extreme situation that would cause me to get involved as I am fully aware of my physical limitations.
You on the other hand, are completely unaware of your mental limitations.
I would have gone out to get the guys plate number, the coward that I am. You can stay inside with the girls.
***** They didn't have CCTV of his plate number, you fuckwit and total moron.
BuckGreywolfe Good Lord! We're running out of MEN in this country.
Yet again I'll mention, the only CCTV we KNOW of is inside the store. There may not have been a camera outside. Also, they could live in a state without front license plates so standing at the door could have been fruitless; I don't know.
All I do know is, seemingly, anyone born after 1980 has no backbone and 'doesn't want to get involved'. Daily, you fail to realize this is your country/state/city and take responsibility for making it what you think it should be. In many ways. You're MEN for Christ's sake. This all reminds me of the bar scene from the movie "Open Range".
It's disheartening.
+BuckGreywolfe It's also not your duty to stay put. He did not chase after the guy and try to detain him, he tried to get a plate before the guy drove off. He even tried to further deescalate by retreating back to the store.
This is just food for thought for several of the comments I've read on here, and we'll never know the true answer because we weren't there and we don't know what the firearms instructor perceived at that moment in time - but I think that before we condemn the firearms instructor for following the guy outside we again need that we don't know all the circumstances surrounding this. The bad guy may have implied he was going to get a weapon from his car or the instructor may have only had that concern. Or the instructor may have just been wanting to get his license plate. I just think it's important that we shouldn't be so quick to either condone or condemn somebody's actions when we weren't there to know what the good guy was perceiving at that moment in time.
It's not that he went outside it's the fact that he positioned himself behind the man's vehicle and took down his plates, basically trapping him. Should of let the cops review the tapes and do their job.
I'm sorry brother, I'm going to have to disagree with you. What the guy did was a legal action (trying to take down his license plates) and it was the trouble-maker that then exited his car and pursued the firearms instructor into the store and began assaulting the guy. In the end here, I really think we need to put the blame on the bad guy and not the other dude. Please don't take my comment as being snarky, the typed word doesn't allow for voice inflection. Take care :)
+Oh Dear you're not completely wrong you are just speaking out of speculation rather than first-hand experience.
I think the instructor shouldn't have followed the guy not unless the instructor is carrying a badge and enforcing the law. The police were already alerted of the incident and that's more than enough. The instructor should've just stayed inside the store and locked the door... remember the term, safety bubble?
The primary job of cops is to put yellow tape around crime scenes. Those first few vital minutes you are all on your own...
I'm sure someone is gonna say "well the guy with a gun instigated it". Great job on defending yourself.
2:31 I appreciated the fact that he didn’t like unload his clip on the belligerent man. He only took one shot and waited for the pain to kick in and for the guy to fall, instead of unloading his clip or taking multiple shots and saying his life was at risk for being cornered, which he. Might have been able to get away with since he was being cornered by an aggressive, larger male.
He shot him three times.
moral problems are all on the aggressor - if someones trying to mind their own business and someone wont let them and that aggressor gets shot I have no sympathy
Exactly. The guy wasn't minding his own business. Danger passed then he went to confront.
Then there's how the shooter shot when the clerk was in the line of fire.
+Ernie Delacruz He went to grab the dude's plates, not confront him.
Dont want to get shot dont start shit, The guy in the store was the aggressor the whole time, He could of stayed outside by his car, He could of not shoved a guy with a gun, The shooter did nothing aggressive until engaged with physical action.
+Anubis Productions well said!
Exactly right, pulling a gun has to be a last resort......this example does not portray that!
I almost thought the clerk was ringing him out after he shot the guy the way the video was edited 😂🙏🏼
Yeah I see what you mean LMFAO just shot a dude and then the clerk goes back to his post and the instructor goes to the counter "Yeah so $20 on 9" "You're all set boss"
You don't tug on Superman's cape, you don't spit into the wind, you don't pull the mask off the ol' Lone Ranger, and you don't mess around with ... a legally armed firearms trainer. I know, I know, it doesn't rhyme like Jim Croce's song, but you get the point.
it appeared to me the instructor stepped outside to get the license plate number.
In my opinion, he drew and refrained from using his firearm because the unstable guy is larger than the instructor. The instructor gave the guy plenty of opportunity to leave him alone. Good job.