I'm pretty confident that I narrowed down the censored move but I'm concerned I will miss out on good content if I get blocked. But yeah censorship always brings more curiosity on any tabu subject.
There was a guy in my judo club we called knuckles because he would constantly dig his knuckles in pressure point areas to get you to open up guards. It was really helpful though because you would eventually learn it's just pain and not dangerous so do your best to ignore it.
We actually got taught to do that in Judo class, grab the pants and dig the knuckles into the thigh to open the guard. Like you say effective in the beginning but at some point you get used to it (and thus people cant do it to you in competition). Same with using the elbow to force a guard open.
@@meesert i've learned it in judo too to also grind the knuckles against the sides of the neck to get them open up their chin for the choke. I don't like using it myself but it is a valid technique in judo.
I like how everyone was so willing to demonstrate on Icy Mike with their dirtiest tactics. They were really getting into at the end, guys be like, "move, it's my turn to hurt Icey Mike again". lol
It starts out as being pretty amazing, but when they're getting to the end and one dirty trick reminds 3 more people of 3 more they just remembered, it goes absolutely to the next level. Very nice.
Don't know if this was mentioned previously, but love and respect to IcyMike for taking pain for our education and amusement! I'll honestly admit, you had be laughing when you took the ride on the Pain Train =9 Thanks again for another great Collaboration Video!
I liked them all, but I have to say the one you did with the fist under the neck/throat and uppercuts. Because I have so much free time on my hands I learned a lot of fisticuffs techniques and the standing on the foot is one of my favorites by far. Hard for me to narrow down because I like dirty fighting because nobody plays Fair nowadays. Loved your video and really hope you and your class make more of them. Keep on Truckin 😎🇨🇦🤘
As a smaller gentleman myself, I love Kevin's technique of concentrating weight into an elbow. I don't do it unless my partner is also employing some nasty techniques, or if we're like 10 rolls in and I can't submit you. You've proven you can kill me enough that I will employ hard-mode and throw some vigor into it.
omg that kick from vargas at the end was wild. I'd love to see him and Wonderboy collab, would be wild seeing what two guys with such immense skill come up with for a video.
@@hard2hurt Also in BJJ you could probably just use all the old school bully moves. My dad would use that stuff all the time like the cow bite and "the drill" where he would curl his middle finger and drill it into my arm, I can image that would suck if someone did it into your jaw lol.
My favorites are 1) "Horse Bite . You pinch and twist the skin on the inside of the thigh as hard as you can to get people off of you . They will sometimes literally jump up . First time done I swore something was torn and bleeding . 2) Switch your hand lead hand but NOT your feet. Throw some 1- 2's but then leave the rear hand out front and start "jabbing " with it. The other guy will reset his distance not realizing he is staying in range of the other hand now . 3) What my last instructor called "Larry Harstells Request " When on somebodies back and they wont give up the neck stick an elbow in their spine and start grinding , head pops up real fast
As someone who has used that collar tie trick in sparring, it not only works to land shots that confuse the opponent, but it can give you a good position in a takedown and scramble situation.
You're a damn good sport, Mike! And how funny was that like circling jackal thing all the other guys started doing at the end? It's like they all smelled blood in the water lol
All the dirty tricks I know, I learned in rugby, we use to shave our heads and beards two days before a game, so we were all nice and sandpapery any time you were in the skrum or fighting over the ball you press in hard and start grinding away. That and how to hide hard hits when tackling someone.
Man, I Love This Channel!! I got one that I never do in class for anything, but use your middle knuckle on your middle finger. Make a fist, but keep that second knuckle pointing out on the middle finger. Then simply dig that knuckle right into somebody's rib cage, or other sensitive areas. I got an injury one time, and it was because something hit me underneath my shin bone, just like that BJJ guy did. Past the flesh, and underneath thee actual shin bone...it's ridiculously sensitive.
My favorite dirty trick is the ol Tyson Fury (similar to what Gabriel Varga showed) - step on the foot, uppercut. If it goes well, you can defend a belt with it. If it doesn't, what's the ref gonna say? Don't walk anymore? Stationary boxing only?
Classic boxing trick: if your opponent bends forward at the waist for any reason, throw a right hook over their head with the intent to miss. As your hook is sailing over their head, you slam your forearm down hard onto the back of their head or neck.
5:20 that's not illegal because you're not hitting them with that part of the glove, you can touch your opponent anywhere & there is no rule prohibiting you from punching yourself, but the ref could still pull you up on it because it's a slippery slope, if you place your hand on their groin & knee your own hand, is that illegal?
There are few things more pure than a bunch of martial artists hurting each other, smiling, and asking for more so everyone can see whats going on. Great video gents!!!
Man I'm really loving these videos with the cameos from the GOATs of youtube. I love the energy in the room of everyone super excited to teach and to learn. Keep 'em coming PUH-LEASE!
I haven't seen Adam kempo in a video in so long! It's like RUclips forgot about him. Good on you for bringing him out mike. Shame Seth wasn't here for this.
6:12 "use the wrist bone" haha i saw this in a krav class. when being choked up close and you don't have the distance to get a good momentum from swing, cross the neck with one forearm and hit your hands together.
I love the stomp/push! I teach that one! My favorite trick is to start talking about food. "Food" is a trigger for the vast majority of humans - much of the time.
Some Judo guy (from one of the 'Stans country) I used to roll with jabbed his thumb in my side (ribs) when he was trying to pass my guard. One of the oldest tricks in the book, but it fucking worked.
Those facechecks/head cranks then punching your own hand to fuck their spinal neck area is pretty killer. I never thought about turning a facecheck into a lever punch with the other hand.
Okay. So the dirtiest move I do is when I go for the thai clinch I kinda over exaggerate the knee, then when I feel the hands go low I go into like an elbow or a headbutt.
I felt bad for mike by the end man XD. My Judo sensei used to give us cow bites on our ears and legs if we were spacing out or goofing off hahaha. My favorite as far as dirt moves go are pressure points in the wrist and knees. Theres something so magical about bending someone's wrist a certain way or poking their leg in the right spot and just watching them crumple to the floor in agony. Shit makes you feel like a superhero haha.
I like doing 12-6 elbows to the meat of the thigh when I'm getting kneed in the clinch. It's a fun dirty technique that discourages the knee. The only downside is it's a little harder to land well. Another fun one that's hard to land, but is super fun when I can get it to land is to elbow the arch of the foot when someone is trying to side-kick me. Lastly, the dirtiest one that I would only ever suggest to use for self defense is, when you sprawl, you use the falling motion to do a 12-6 elbow to the back of the skull, neck, or back. Highly effective, but brutal and super dirty.
It is always astonishing to me just how intolerant your body can be to particular sensations. A hard punch or kick onto the cheek is unpleasant but tolerable. However, press a knuckle into the cheek - just below the cheekbones, where you feel the upper gum underneath the flesh, is a 'hollow' - even light pressure there hurts like crazy and leaves an ache. Mike isn't soft or cowardly - this is a man who willingly got hit with a steel whip and pepper spray - but his reactions to some of those tricks tells you just how painful they are.
Shin to the neck trick I have used a couple times in north south. Extremely rude. Lol Framing off the collar tie and uppercutting the wrist is another jewel. A good strike to the sternum tends to loosen up the stabilizing muscles in the neck. 😁
...and this is the trap!!!, I've been enjoying these collabs so much I'll do a quick check for new ones just before heading out to training...next minute its a hour later!!!
Kinda shocked you didn't get the classic dirty wrestling dig your chin into specific muscle groups that if you watch Beau Hightower you could see how effective they could be at distracting people.
You can find detailed breakdowns on my dirtiest dirty boxing stuff at hard2hurt.teachable.com
Oh yeah harder daddy! Yeah harder break it down harder Big Papa
"You turn this motherfucker into a Pez dispenser!"
Great technique AND had me dying laughing....I call that a win win! 🤣🤣
New product review time
🤨👉 Pocket Staff, it's silver, and painful
Loving these💪. Keep collabs coming 🙏
What was Shane’s first trick? Tell us
Shane has 2 dirty fighting tricks. One is to walk away then kick, and the other is a warcrime
Shane’s suplex should be against the Geneva convention for how fuckin brutal it is
Correction: Shane has 2 dirty fighting tricks *that he's willing to show*, and one of them is a warcrime. ;-)
I'm pretty confident that I narrowed down the censored move but I'm concerned I will miss out on good content if I get blocked. But yeah censorship always brings more curiosity on any tabu subject.
I wonder what it is 😅
Someone pls tell me what it is? Or at least a hint
Make this collab an annual thing please!
That's hopefully the plan.
@@hard2hurt 🤙🏻
That would be amazing!
@@hard2hurt Mike how's blakie Chan doing, hope he's becoming better.
And maybe if someone can't make it one time, have another RUclipsr ready to fill in.
That shin to the throat when applying the kimura is fucking savage.
Wonder if it’s legal in MMA
@@ConnorTierney Seems like it should be so long as you don't knew them in the face on the way in. And in OneFC you'd be fine either way....
Basic catch wrestling move.
Clearly not if you're a policeman....
@@Xanaduumshut up
There was a guy in my judo club we called knuckles because he would constantly dig his knuckles in pressure point areas to get you to open up guards. It was really helpful though because you would eventually learn it's just pain and not dangerous so do your best to ignore it.
Sounds like a miserable person
@@hard2hurt lol He was actually pretty cool aside that and was always really helpful. It just kind of sucked rolling with him.
We actually got taught to do that in Judo class, grab the pants and dig the knuckles into the thigh to open the guard. Like you say effective in the beginning but at some point you get used to it (and thus people cant do it to you in competition). Same with using the elbow to force a guard open.
Trying to use pain compliance to open guards in the gym is just going to really piss people off.
@@meesert i've learned it in judo too to also grind the knuckles against the sides of the neck to get them open up their chin for the choke. I don't like using it myself but it is a valid technique in judo.
I like how everyone was so willing to demonstrate on Icy Mike with their dirtiest tactics. They were really getting into at the end, guys be like, "move, it's my turn to hurt Icey Mike again". lol
0:50
"you know what's so funny is the same guy who did the, the fa- (Optimus Prime) does that one too"
I love these collabs with all the martial arts RUclipsrs. Makes it feel like a family.
for real! they should make a SUPER team channel where its all of them on one channel. could be cool
Mike, I’m sure you’ve heard this before, but I kind of think of you as the Bill Burr of self defense. In the best way. 😅
I was thinking it… then you fuchin’ said it!
Really felt like i was back in class with this one
Yeah this was a candid moment for sure. This wasn't a formal video shoot to start with, just a thought I had.
Sick
It starts out as being pretty amazing, but when they're getting to the end and one dirty trick reminds 3 more people of 3 more they just remembered, it goes absolutely to the next level. Very nice.
Don't know if this was mentioned previously, but love and respect to IcyMike for taking pain for our education and amusement! I'll honestly admit, you had be laughing when you took the ride on the Pain Train =9
Thanks again for another great Collaboration Video!
That last one by Sensei Seth destroyed my world, he is a meanie....and now I can't unsee that.
Question for Viewers: What was your favorite dirty attack from the video? Do you have any dirty tricks of your own?
The coolest tech that I'll never get to try is JD's. The problem is that I'm cool with all of my training partners.
after an accidental groin kick, I'll faint another to get them to drop their guard
Deffo the knee on the neck and the shin on the leg by Noble. Also, stubby fingers. Use what you got.
I liked them all, but I have to say the one you did with the fist under the neck/throat and uppercuts.
Because I have so much free time on my hands I learned a lot of fisticuffs techniques and the standing on the foot is one of my favorites by far.
Hard for me to narrow down because I like dirty fighting because nobody plays Fair nowadays. Loved your video and really hope you and your class make more of them.
Keep on Truckin
😎🇨🇦🤘
As a smaller gentleman myself, I love Kevin's technique of concentrating weight into an elbow. I don't do it unless my partner is also employing some nasty techniques, or if we're like 10 rolls in and I can't submit you. You've proven you can kill me enough that I will employ hard-mode and throw some vigor into it.
omg that kick from vargas at the end was wild. I'd love to see him and Wonderboy collab, would be wild seeing what two guys with such immense skill come up with for a video.
I believe wonderboy was on karate combat during one of vargas fights.
@@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 Yeah he was commentating w bas rutten
you know its serious when Icy Mike is the one censoring it lmao
do you have any idea what that was?
0:50 No come on you can't do this to us Mike, the people demand answers.
Well... I _can_ do anything I want, really.
@@hard2hurt Also in BJJ you could probably just use all the old school bully moves. My dad would use that stuff all the time like the cow bite and "the drill" where he would curl his middle finger and drill it into my arm, I can image that would suck if someone did it into your jaw lol.
@@hard2hurt at least give us a vague description/idea of what it was.
Hard2Hurt getting RUclips fight legends in the gym all the time now! What a Don! 👑
This collab is fantastic, literally one of the best on youtube. Hell I would pay money to hear you guys on a podcast together talking fighting, etc.
I can't tell you how many times my arm has been trapped in a clinch and I've hoppunched my way out of it like Jared said at 3:00
The moment Seth does that @10:24 is the moment Icy Mike gets scared to the point you can tell they are true friends
10:43 That kick by Gabriel into a black backround 😄 Perfection.
My favorites are 1) "Horse Bite . You pinch and twist the skin on the inside of the thigh as hard as you can to get people off of you . They will sometimes literally jump up . First time done I swore something was torn and bleeding . 2) Switch your hand lead hand but NOT your feet. Throw some 1- 2's but then leave the rear hand out front and start "jabbing " with it. The other guy will reset his distance not realizing he is staying in range of the other hand now . 3) What my last instructor called "Larry Harstells Request " When on somebodies back and they wont give up the neck stick an elbow in their spine and start grinding , head pops up real fast
As someone who has used that collar tie trick in sparring, it not only works to land shots that confuse the opponent, but it can give you a good position in a takedown and scramble situation.
10:25 At least it was on the leg, I thought he was going to use that finger in another place
You're a damn good sport, Mike!
And how funny was that like circling jackal thing all the other guys started doing at the end? It's like they all smelled blood in the water lol
This video is awesome. I love all the input and Mike is a trooper letting us torture him. Thanks for this Mike
All the dirty tricks I know, I learned in rugby, we use to shave our heads and beards two days before a game, so we were all nice and sandpapery any time you were in the skrum or fighting over the ball you press in hard and start grinding away. That and how to hide hard hits when tackling someone.
Man I appreciate your work, you seem to be a really humble guy and just a great attitude you can tell your doing what you love
Great Stuff Mike!!! Thanks, love it when the group is together.
6:30 lol Mike you were like half a percent from concussing him with those punches, noone is questioning the efficacy.
I love the energy of everyone together, Mike. Also, great idea for a video!
Lol oh that got me when Mike was hanging from Seth’s choke. Looks like a child being mean to his doll.
Love seeing the everyone together videos.
Man, I Love This Channel!! I got one that I never do in class for anything, but use your middle knuckle on your middle finger. Make a fist, but keep that second knuckle pointing out on the middle finger. Then simply dig that knuckle right into somebody's rib cage, or other sensitive areas. I got an injury one time, and it was because something hit me underneath my shin bone, just like that BJJ guy did. Past the flesh, and underneath thee actual shin bone...it's ridiculously sensitive.
My favorite dirty trick is the ol Tyson Fury (similar to what Gabriel Varga showed) - step on the foot, uppercut. If it goes well, you can defend a belt with it. If it doesn't, what's the ref gonna say? Don't walk anymore? Stationary boxing only?
Never seen IcyMike so miserable hahaha
Classic boxing trick: if your opponent bends forward at the waist for any reason, throw a right hook over their head with the intent to miss. As your hook is sailing over their head, you slam your forearm down hard onto the back of their head or neck.
Bro at 5:47 had to fight off the inner berserker demon after that first dirty punch, hahaha.
The foot step hold is a good one. I also like using pressure points in the legs and torso.
Shinlocks are very common in catch wrestling.
Oh catch wrestling, how I love you
I really have been enjoying these meetups that you guys have been doing ever since that 1st collab, keep up the friendship, love it
5:20 that's not illegal because you're not hitting them with that part of the glove, you can touch your opponent anywhere & there is no rule prohibiting you from punching yourself, but the ref could still pull you up on it because it's a slippery slope, if you place your hand on their groin & knee your own hand, is that illegal?
There are few things more pure than a bunch of martial artists hurting each other, smiling, and asking for more so everyone can see whats going on. Great video gents!!!
Mike keep making this types of videos, they're a very technical part of fighting that doesn't get talked about. And it's quite funny :P
Man I'm really loving these videos with the cameos from the GOATs of youtube. I love the energy in the room of everyone super excited to teach and to learn. Keep 'em coming PUH-LEASE!
I haven't seen Adam kempo in a video in so long! It's like RUclips forgot about him. Good on you for bringing him out mike. Shame Seth wasn't here for this.
hahaha all that jiu-jitsu stuff was GOLD at the end hahaha
These collab videos have been great. You guys together are awesome
7:05 if I were on the defense for that, feeling the glove pull away from my face might signal to me that something else is coming.
I love the step over kimura and this knee ride kimura thing is beautiful
So dirty tactics are basically all the sibling fight techniques?
This might be one of my favorite martial arts videos of the year!
That punch through glove is legit. I love it.
Love this channel, and I'm learning. Well done, y'all.
Imagine, askin' for it! xD
I love how they all start gleefully using Mike as a mannequin at the end like, "Ooh! Ooh! I got another one!" :D
Hahaha that Jedi Shin Choke with the nubs is amazing! Great stuff you guys and super fun video!
6:12
"use the wrist bone"
haha i saw this in a krav class.
when being choked up close and you don't have the distance to get a good momentum from swing,
cross the neck with one forearm and hit your hands together.
I finally figured out where Kevin Lee fits in to all this.
Easily one of my favorite videos!
So awesome. What a cool bunch of sportsmen. Thanks for content. Best wishes from germany
the the caption ' this is where kevin lee fits in' it cracked me up lmao
Mine is from mount or side mount is press the elbow into the cheek just below the cheekbone.
You dirty technique from the clinch is awesome! I'm gonna drill that when I'm striking.
Mike yelling in pain and then demand they do it again for another camera angle 😂
Thank you! I'm a consummate professional
I love the stomp/push! I teach that one!
My favorite trick is to start talking about food.
"Food" is a trigger for the vast majority of humans - much of the time.
Love these collaborations 👍
epic video, love watching you all having fun
"Adam Kempo" seems like such an old school callback now lol
Some Judo guy (from one of the 'Stans country) I used to roll with jabbed his thumb in my side (ribs) when he was trying to pass my guard. One of the oldest tricks in the book, but it fucking worked.
That's just asinine.
@@hard2hurt Let's say I didn't shed any tears when I heard he got smashed in an MMA match shortly after.
Those facechecks/head cranks then punching your own hand to fuck their spinal neck area is pretty killer. I never thought about turning a facecheck into a lever punch with the other hand.
I love how seeing Mike squirm got the creative juices flowing for everyone, some real mikeochists
This was by far my favourite from this series
Great! great video, thank you for this one fellas .
Show his first one!!! That’s why we’re here
Okay. So the dirtiest move I do is when I go for the thai clinch I kinda over exaggerate the knee, then when I feel the hands go low I go into like an elbow or a headbutt.
So you either use a perfectly legal and reasonable setup... or a blatant foul? lol ok!
@@hard2hurt you asked for dirty 😅
@@hard2hurt It's not blatant if you apologize 🧠
Basically that's Lethwei then.
@@hard2hurt Headbutts are allowed in some sports
Most certainly gunna throw that head frame uppercut into my sparring sessions thanks icymike
I felt bad for mike by the end man XD.
My Judo sensei used to give us cow bites on our ears and legs if we were spacing out or goofing off hahaha.
My favorite as far as dirt moves go are pressure points in the wrist and knees.
Theres something so magical about bending someone's wrist a certain way or poking their leg in the right spot and just watching them crumple to the floor in agony. Shit makes you feel like a superhero haha.
Lol that last section with just back to back dirty Jiujutsu techniques was really funny
I like doing 12-6 elbows to the meat of the thigh when I'm getting kneed in the clinch. It's a fun dirty technique that discourages the knee. The only downside is it's a little harder to land well.
Another fun one that's hard to land, but is super fun when I can get it to land is to elbow the arch of the foot when someone is trying to side-kick me.
Lastly, the dirtiest one that I would only ever suggest to use for self defense is, when you sprawl, you use the falling motion to do a 12-6 elbow to the back of the skull, neck, or back. Highly effective, but brutal and super dirty.
It is always astonishing to me just how intolerant your body can be to particular sensations. A hard punch or kick onto the cheek is unpleasant but tolerable. However, press a knuckle into the cheek - just below the cheekbones, where you feel the upper gum underneath the flesh, is a 'hollow' - even light pressure there hurts like crazy and leaves an ache. Mike isn't soft or cowardly - this is a man who willingly got hit with a steel whip and pepper spray - but his reactions to some of those tricks tells you just how painful they are.
Icy Mike taking it like a trooper.
Shin to the neck trick I have used a couple times in north south. Extremely rude. Lol Framing off the collar tie and uppercutting the wrist is another jewel. A good strike to the sternum tends to loosen up the stabilizing muscles in the neck. 😁
...and this is the trap!!!, I've been enjoying these collabs so much I'll do a quick check for new ones just before heading out to training...next minute its a hour later!!!
Ive been known to use the forearms across the face in grappling. Cross facing I believe its called? Its legal but ive had complaints.
Not sure why i enjoy watching Mike get hurt. But i do. Keep up the good work.
Adam Kenpo was funny,
But "gifted with unfair advantages" fucking killed me.
6:32 😆 Dude that first shot I was like DAYUM!!! Glad he confirmed that was pretty stiff🤣.
Earthquake armbar is the dirtiest move I know
Is that when you get the armbar and then fart really hard so the mat rumbles
Is that with the hamstring rapid fire slamming their face?
@@hard2hurt yes exactly
This was one hell of a crossover episode
So much amazing stuff has come out of this collab, thank you all.
The opposite of "sacred" would be "profane" -- IcyMike needs a "profane boxing" t-shirt.
Great little collection of tricks.
One of my favorite episodes.
Mike had a moment of clarity at the end lmao " damn, this is the shit i do? i am an awful person"
The Kevin Lee joke was perfect 🤣
Brilliant video could watch you all day respect brother YNWA
they all started bullying icymike at the end 🤣
Kinda shocked you didn't get the classic dirty wrestling dig your chin into specific muscle groups that if you watch Beau Hightower you could see how effective they could be at distracting people.
As a grappler I love the 8:57 & 9:37 "tricks" 😅
Love the vids Icy Mike!