The Dirtiest Sparring Tricks and Tactics
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You can find detailed breakdowns on my dirtiest dirty boxing stuff at hard2hurt.teachable.com
Oh yeah harder daddy! Yeah harder break it down harder Big Papa
"You turn this motherfucker into a Pez dispenser!"
Great technique AND had me dying laughing....I call that a win win! 🤣🤣
New product review time
🤨👉 Pocket Staff, it's silver, and painful
Loving these💪. Keep collabs coming 🙏
What was Shane’s first trick? Tell us
Shane has 2 dirty fighting tricks. One is to walk away then kick, and the other is a warcrime
Shane’s suplex should be against the Geneva convention for how fuckin brutal it is
Correction: Shane has 2 dirty fighting tricks *that he's willing to show*, and one of them is a warcrime. ;-)
I'm pretty confident that I narrowed down the censored move but I'm concerned I will miss out on good content if I get blocked. But yeah censorship always brings more curiosity on any tabu subject.
I wonder what it is 😅
Someone pls tell me what it is? Or at least a hint
Make this collab an annual thing please!
That's hopefully the plan.
@@hard2hurt 🤙🏻
That would be amazing!
@@hard2hurt Mike how's blakie Chan doing, hope he's becoming better.
And maybe if someone can't make it one time, have another RUclipsr ready to fill in.
There was a guy in my judo club we called knuckles because he would constantly dig his knuckles in pressure point areas to get you to open up guards. It was really helpful though because you would eventually learn it's just pain and not dangerous so do your best to ignore it.
Sounds like a miserable person
@@hard2hurt lol He was actually pretty cool aside that and was always really helpful. It just kind of sucked rolling with him.
We actually got taught to do that in Judo class, grab the pants and dig the knuckles into the thigh to open the guard. Like you say effective in the beginning but at some point you get used to it (and thus people cant do it to you in competition). Same with using the elbow to force a guard open.
Trying to use pain compliance to open guards in the gym is just going to really piss people off.
@@meesert i've learned it in judo too to also grind the knuckles against the sides of the neck to get them open up their chin for the choke. I don't like using it myself but it is a valid technique in judo.
That shin to the throat when applying the kimura is fucking savage.
Wonder if it’s legal in MMA
@@ConnorTierney Seems like it should be so long as you don't knew them in the face on the way in. And in OneFC you'd be fine either way....
Basic catch wrestling move.
Clearly not if you're a policeman....
@@Xanaduumshut up
Mike, I’m sure you’ve heard this before, but I kind of think of you as the Bill Burr of self defense. In the best way. 😅
I was thinking it… then you fuchin’ said it!
I like how everyone was so willing to demonstrate on Icy Mike with their dirtiest tactics. They were really getting into at the end, guys be like, "move, it's my turn to hurt Icey Mike again". lol
Question for Viewers: What was your favorite dirty attack from the video? Do you have any dirty tricks of your own?
The coolest tech that I'll never get to try is JD's. The problem is that I'm cool with all of my training partners.
after an accidental groin kick, I'll faint another to get them to drop their guard
Deffo the knee on the neck and the shin on the leg by Noble. Also, stubby fingers. Use what you got.
I liked them all, but I have to say the one you did with the fist under the neck/throat and uppercuts.
Because I have so much free time on my hands I learned a lot of fisticuffs techniques and the standing on the foot is one of my favorites by far.
Hard for me to narrow down because I like dirty fighting because nobody plays Fair nowadays. Loved your video and really hope you and your class make more of them.
Keep on Truckin
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As a smaller gentleman myself, I love Kevin's technique of concentrating weight into an elbow. I don't do it unless my partner is also employing some nasty techniques, or if we're like 10 rolls in and I can't submit you. You've proven you can kill me enough that I will employ hard-mode and throw some vigor into it.
Really felt like i was back in class with this one
Yeah this was a candid moment for sure. This wasn't a formal video shoot to start with, just a thought I had.
Sick
I love these collabs with all the martial arts RUclipsrs. Makes it feel like a family.
for real! they should make a SUPER team channel where its all of them on one channel. could be cool
Don't know if this was mentioned previously, but love and respect to IcyMike for taking pain for our education and amusement! I'll honestly admit, you had be laughing when you took the ride on the Pain Train =9
Thanks again for another great Collaboration Video!
0:50 No come on you can't do this to us Mike, the people demand answers.
Well... I _can_ do anything I want, really.
@@hard2hurt Also in BJJ you could probably just use all the old school bully moves. My dad would use that stuff all the time like the cow bite and "the drill" where he would curl his middle finger and drill it into my arm, I can image that would suck if someone did it into your jaw lol.
@@hard2hurt at least give us a vague description/idea of what it was.
you know its serious when Icy Mike is the one censoring it lmao
do you have any idea what that was?
It starts out as being pretty amazing, but when they're getting to the end and one dirty trick reminds 3 more people of 3 more they just remembered, it goes absolutely to the next level. Very nice.
So dirty tactics are basically all the sibling fight techniques?
Never seen IcyMike so miserable hahaha
All the dirty tricks I know, I learned in rugby, we use to shave our heads and beards two days before a game, so we were all nice and sandpapery any time you were in the skrum or fighting over the ball you press in hard and start grinding away. That and how to hide hard hits when tackling someone.
Hard2Hurt getting RUclips fight legends in the gym all the time now! What a Don! 👑
omg that kick from vargas at the end was wild. I'd love to see him and Wonderboy collab, would be wild seeing what two guys with such immense skill come up with for a video.
I believe wonderboy was on karate combat during one of vargas fights.
@@fireeaglefitnessmartialart935 Yeah he was commentating w bas rutten
My favorite dirty trick is the ol Tyson Fury (similar to what Gabriel Varga showed) - step on the foot, uppercut. If it goes well, you can defend a belt with it. If it doesn't, what's the ref gonna say? Don't walk anymore? Stationary boxing only?
6:30 lol Mike you were like half a percent from concussing him with those punches, noone is questioning the efficacy.
I can't tell you how many times my arm has been trapped in a clinch and I've hoppunched my way out of it like Jared said at 3:00
You're a damn good sport, Mike!
And how funny was that like circling jackal thing all the other guys started doing at the end? It's like they all smelled blood in the water lol
Gotta love getting nubbed by a JKD guy
I do not have to love that.
My favorites are 1) "Horse Bite . You pinch and twist the skin on the inside of the thigh as hard as you can to get people off of you . They will sometimes literally jump up . First time done I swore something was torn and bleeding . 2) Switch your hand lead hand but NOT your feet. Throw some 1- 2's but then leave the rear hand out front and start "jabbing " with it. The other guy will reset his distance not realizing he is staying in range of the other hand now . 3) What my last instructor called "Larry Harstells Request " When on somebodies back and they wont give up the neck stick an elbow in their spine and start grinding , head pops up real fast
This collab is fantastic, literally one of the best on youtube. Hell I would pay money to hear you guys on a podcast together talking fighting, etc.
The opposite of "sacred" would be "profane" -- IcyMike needs a "profane boxing" t-shirt.
Great little collection of tricks.
The moment Seth does that @10:24 is the moment Icy Mike gets scared to the point you can tell they are true friends
Classic boxing trick: if your opponent bends forward at the waist for any reason, throw a right hook over their head with the intent to miss. As your hook is sailing over their head, you slam your forearm down hard onto the back of their head or neck.
Some Judo guy (from one of the 'Stans country) I used to roll with jabbed his thumb in my side (ribs) when he was trying to pass my guard. One of the oldest tricks in the book, but it fucking worked.
That's just asinine.
@@hard2hurt Let's say I didn't shed any tears when I heard he got smashed in an MMA match shortly after.
It is always astonishing to me just how intolerant your body can be to particular sensations. A hard punch or kick onto the cheek is unpleasant but tolerable. However, press a knuckle into the cheek - just below the cheekbones, where you feel the upper gum underneath the flesh, is a 'hollow' - even light pressure there hurts like crazy and leaves an ache. Mike isn't soft or cowardly - this is a man who willingly got hit with a steel whip and pepper spray - but his reactions to some of those tricks tells you just how painful they are.
Lol oh that got me when Mike was hanging from Seth’s choke. Looks like a child being mean to his doll.
0:50
"you know what's so funny is the same guy who did the, the fa- (Optimus Prime) does that one too"
10:25 At least it was on the leg, I thought he was going to use that finger in another place
That last one by Sensei Seth destroyed my world, he is a meanie....and now I can't unsee that.
The dirties Ive done is... we were grappling. And we were both kinda new (like 4 months into MMA) and just friendly rolling. And then I pushed my knee into/across a dudes face while trying to move over him. And it worked.... but like a round after I realized what a dick move it was and felt realy guilty. Then the session stopped and I tried to find him to apologise but we were like 25 people on a large mat so I didnt 100% recognize him.
Sorry dude...
Is tickling people considered dirty?
I would say so.
@@hard2hurt hit them with the good old "koochikoochikoo" reversal
That's how REAL training goes. I have been laughing so hard watching this video! In a REAL dojo you learn the CLEAN way, but also the down and dirty. Martial arts is not crotchet! A good dojo is a great equalizer, because if you behave like an asshole, there will always be someone willing and knowledgeable to put it you into place.
And for those (rare) stubborn ones, there will be a serious injury to bring home, which in the end helps everyone in the dojo in keeping a civilized and educational atmosphere. BEAUTIFUL. I LOVED THIS VIDEO.
Earthquake armbar is the dirtiest move I know
Is that when you get the armbar and then fart really hard so the mat rumbles
Is that with the hamstring rapid fire slamming their face?
@@hard2hurt yes exactly
Adam Kenpo was funny,
But "gifted with unfair advantages" fucking killed me.
Man, I Love This Channel!! I got one that I never do in class for anything, but use your middle knuckle on your middle finger. Make a fist, but keep that second knuckle pointing out on the middle finger. Then simply dig that knuckle right into somebody's rib cage, or other sensitive areas. I got an injury one time, and it was because something hit me underneath my shin bone, just like that BJJ guy did. Past the flesh, and underneath thee actual shin bone...it's ridiculously sensitive.
Dirtiest thing I do is block body kicks with a quick elbow jab if someone is pissing me off.
That's a good one... assuming their shins aren't tougher than your elbow.
@@hard2hurt I don't think I've ever seriously sparred anyone at that level... but I'm going to have to keep that in mind.
@@hard2hurt I've got tough shins...but sometimes people will catch the top of the foot with the point of the elbow...ouch!
What was the nature of the trick you edited out? Don't need to explain it just something that grievously wounds or involves bodily fluids or what?
It may or may not have involved intentional fouling.
I love playing dirty the great thing I'm more likely to use it if I don't want to be into a fight because I'm not looking for a medal of honor I just like to be a prideful cheater that just wants to live like the way how he wants to live
Prideful cheater!
Okay. So the dirtiest move I do is when I go for the thai clinch I kinda over exaggerate the knee, then when I feel the hands go low I go into like an elbow or a headbutt.
So you either use a perfectly legal and reasonable setup... or a blatant foul? lol ok!
@@hard2hurt you asked for dirty 😅
@@hard2hurt It's not blatant if you apologize 🧠
Basically that's Lethwei then.
@@hard2hurt Headbutts are allowed in some sports
Shinlocks are very common in catch wrestling.
Oh catch wrestling, how I love you
Of course Seth just pinches your thigh LMAO
Poor IcyMike hahahaha
This video is awesome. I love all the input and Mike is a trooper letting us torture him. Thanks for this Mike
Crossover ❤
We prefer the term Extravaganza.
My mother who is 5 foot was sparing with this guy who was 6"10' , he was warned repeatedly to control his hits. He hit my mom hard in the face. If she thinks someone deserves it, she would either round kick right on the side of the hip bone, or for this guy, She punch him right at the belt next to the knot. It didn't hit him in the groin, but still close enough for him to feel it
"Adam Kempo" seems like such an old school callback now lol
Mike yelling in pain and then demand they do it again for another camera angle 😂
Thank you! I'm a consummate professional
Kinda shocked you didn't get the classic dirty wrestling dig your chin into specific muscle groups that if you watch Beau Hightower you could see how effective they could be at distracting people.
MIKE YOUR BALD
Oh man... you really got me there...
As someone who has used that collar tie trick in sparring, it not only works to land shots that confuse the opponent, but it can give you a good position in a takedown and scramble situation.
At first when he was talking about the Nub, I thought it was a specific BJJ technique I'd never heard of.
That’s some Gene LaBell stuff right there! Glad nobody made you crap your own pants.
7:05 if I were on the defense for that, feeling the glove pull away from my face might signal to me that something else is coming.
5:20 that's not illegal because you're not hitting them with that part of the glove, you can touch your opponent anywhere & there is no rule prohibiting you from punching yourself, but the ref could still pull you up on it because it's a slippery slope, if you place your hand on their groin & knee your own hand, is that illegal?
Great Stuff Mike!!! Thanks, love it when the group is together.
I felt bad for mike by the end man XD.
My Judo sensei used to give us cow bites on our ears and legs if we were spacing out or goofing off hahaha.
My favorite as far as dirt moves go are pressure points in the wrist and knees.
Theres something so magical about bending someone's wrist a certain way or poking their leg in the right spot and just watching them crumple to the floor in agony. Shit makes you feel like a superhero haha.
Surely the dirtiest trick would be the "Adam Kempo" subtitle for Seth.
Wtf, no oil check ?
No wrestlers... just kickboxers and buttscooters
I was doing some BJJ at a UFC Gym and I unknowingly was being dirty. I was the smallest guy on the mat, and the guy with the least experience. So when people would pull my head down while in full guard, I would dig my wrist bone into the side of their neck. At the time I thought it was fine, but the next day I was like "Oh no!". I mean it worked, but, God, I was a bad training partner😂😂.
I like doing 12-6 elbows to the meat of the thigh when I'm getting kneed in the clinch. It's a fun dirty technique that discourages the knee. The only downside is it's a little harder to land well.
Another fun one that's hard to land, but is super fun when I can get it to land is to elbow the arch of the foot when someone is trying to side-kick me.
Lastly, the dirtiest one that I would only ever suggest to use for self defense is, when you sprawl, you use the falling motion to do a 12-6 elbow to the back of the skull, neck, or back. Highly effective, but brutal and super dirty.
10:43 That kick by Gabriel into a black backround 😄 Perfection.
Imagine, askin' for it! xD
I love how they all start gleefully using Mike as a mannequin at the end like, "Ooh! Ooh! I got another one!" :D
Those facechecks/head cranks then punching your own hand to fuck their spinal neck area is pretty killer. I never thought about turning a facecheck into a lever punch with the other hand.
10:23 I legit thought he would use his fingers and put them somewhere unholy...
I"M GOING TO TRY ALL OF THESE LOL
Poor Seth doesn't know how to cheat. Freaking love that guy
hahaha all that jiu-jitsu stuff was GOLD at the end hahaha
If you won't let shane say his dirtiest trick will you atleast type it out on here for us.. the people need to know an who knows it may be needed one day
You won't believe this but I learned most of those in tai chi and aikido.
This video so dirty the moment small guy hit the floor everyone start torturing the shit of him
They swarmed me like jackals
Who else is dying to know the first one he didn't show us?! 🙋
I finally figured out where Kevin Lee fits in to all this.
Lmfaoooo Kevin chilllll just give him a sec manggg hahahahahaha
I haven't seen Adam kempo in a video in so long! It's like RUclips forgot about him. Good on you for bringing him out mike. Shame Seth wasn't here for this.
Are we getting some really cool sparring footege soon ?
Man I appreciate your work, you seem to be a really humble guy and just a great attitude you can tell your doing what you love
The most awesome part about this video is how painful some of those "Dirty" grappling moves really are.
I really dig punching my glove into another person's face tho.
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they all started bullying icymike at the end 🤣
How is the cow bite the only thing I retained?
Actually strained my ankle this week accidently stepping on the foot of my partners like Gabriel does 😭 (I did it so much on purpose without injury and the one time its accidental I am out for a week)
Oof I was feeling that leg abuse at the end, and then Seth just had to get in on the fun and pinch the shit out of you haha! A legit self defense tactic that most people won't expect though to be fair, I'd never heard of the cow bite.
I have the dirty boxing teachable, the pez dispenser has upset a few people 🤙
Mike is about that Old Man Crafty Fighting. 😁😁😁👏👏👏✊✊ I'm here for it!
Video should be named “How to give someone controlled tendonitis” poor Mike’s nerves
Love seeing the everyone together videos.
wrestling, use your palm (or fist) on their thumb when its extended and the wrist cant move backward. many implementations of this, but generally either you move their elbow to the inside and wrist to the outside, which is awesome, or you remove that hand from the grappling fight.
it's legal, its incredibly painful, and its really not even that situational. Works all the time for all kinds of shit. handfighting? check. takedown defense? check. Behind them and they're fighting your hands? check.
commit thumb smash.
Because of the editing I’m imagining Shane saying how he thinks holocaust is a myth… I don’t think you did him a favour.
The foot step hold is a good one. I also like using pressure points in the legs and torso.
Easily one of my favorite videos!
Ive been known to use the forearms across the face in grappling. Cross facing I believe its called? Its legal but ive had complaints.
I think what icy mike showed is "active clinching" and can't be done in boxing
I'm the biggest guy in my gym I don't do dirty stuff
Pressure points are dirty. You can use kyusho on any BJJ roll with a douche. Of course that stabbing the neck with your index finger would be too obvious, but you have many pressure points available in any position could you find yourself in. They HURT, and could make it easier to pass a guard (but making your opponent angry as a side effect). Ed and JD just showed that. I find the floor a much friendly environment to apply this concept than stand up fighting.
9:57 I say the same thing to my girlfriend.
jk I don't have a girlfriend. Good video though, man, tried the wrist-under-jaw punch thing on myself (?) and can see why it hurts. It hurt.
So i have a move called the can opener. Been doing it as a kid till my last major tussle in 2013. Hug them up full embrace. Then dig your chin into the neck or clavicle area. No one likes that. Modify it with a kiss for the ladies and it's super effective!