Time Is Never Actually Experienced
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- A 13 year old boy asks, 'Why do we lose a sense of time when we are sleeping?'
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"That's confusing but it makes sense".. I like the respond 😂😂
Exactly the words I would choose also.
It's like a weird contradiction that both things seem to occur simoultaneously in my head.
I'm just hoping that if I watch enough of these, the final piece will click into place.
So awesome to have a youngster connecting with higher consciousness. Imagine how wonderful our world would be if we had enlightening ones teaching our youth truth instead of the junk they are taught today!
yes absolutely! 💗
How lucky we are to be alive at the same "time" as Rupert! Infinite gratitude!
The one who is lucky is no one really, that's the paradox, but it's always good to be grateful ;)
I want to give this kid an enormous hug.
"When you experience beauty in any form, that is reality, eternal infinate consciousness, filtering in to your finite mind. Beauty is the experience of the collapse of the destinction between consciousness and existence, between self and other. I am giving you a rational explaination to it but the actual experience of it is the experience of beauty. The way the world appears doesn't change but the way you experience that appearance, that is changed."
The Celestine prophesy also says this
Rupert, hats off to you who is trying tirelessly to help people to understand the concept of nothingness, consciousness or whatever we call it THAT doesn't change. I like the comment "Confusing but makes sense". I believe this is what is happening with people who are trying to understand Self or Consciousness. Keep it up, even a handful out of millions get it, it is worth doing the effort. Thanks.
well said 💗
Smart kid. Rupert is such a good teacher. Beautiful. 😊
Bleh.
I said to myself, I'll just find a video to watch really quickly. Nothing heavy, I don't want to get blown away with content. I just want to listen to something while I get some work done. . .
1 minute into the video, I am totally blown away by the content. I drop everything and give my undivided attention to Rupert!
I'm hopeless.
Same happened to me.
The best explanation of 'time' I have ever heard. Rupert explains this brilliantly. Thankyou
So lovely! Must be watched again and again carefully to assimilate the simple yet profound truth. It's ok if you don't get it immediately. But just be with it. Eventually, your own experiences with this understanding will change your perception. The man takes time to go into depths of the question and then answers from the Now. And I absolutely love the one asking questions. What innocent beauty! Peace to all!
This man is brilliant!
Rupert epitomizes peace love & kindness
his patience, wisdom and understanding of consciousness is timeless & eternal
😚😉👍 young ones already seeking ! AMAZING ❤
There is still hope for the human species to continue to exist.
@@bugrist if you find that hopefull haha it is your own dream that continues...
@@TheAmbamatamantrasvideos You may discover how precious and sophisticated is the human vehicle, very expressive and beautiful. Is my dream trash in your cold view?
@@bugrist the make up of the human mind includes greed, hatred and delusion. If the human mind puts an end to all these outflows, It ceases to be human.
@@mdbosley Are you sure of the last statement? My friend such things are perceptions, they are just shadowy human behaviours, they don't define humans and not everyone is oriented to the shadow part of the light. You may turn to the other side and see more objectively.
Rupert's explanations are so clear!
Incredibly clear explanation of the experience of time. Also, amazing clearness of the young when answering Rupert's questions, that was outstanding for a person so young ! Wonderful !
The experience of beauty or love is better described as a silence, a deafening extraordinary silence.
What a wonderful conversation! So clearly expressed on both sifes. And I loved Rupert's comments on beauty near the end. So relevant, but so forgotten …
So simple and convincing explanation of the Time, Space, Mind and the Reality. Wish this particular video would have been shown in schools before students are conditioned to believe there is a reality outside them.
Simply brilliant! Pure Essence. All rituals, rites are only for the mind, the mind alone. And yet, we follow those until we lose the mind or, rather, we give up the habit of filtering the world through the mind.
This stream of consciousness (known as Rupert) articulates these truths so directly it blows my mind - fantastic!
This has to be one of my all time favourite exchanges and conversations with Rupert. It's just poetic in it's beauty and understanding. 🙏
"All your life you're only going to experience ONE NOW." wow 🤯😌
Fantastic 🎉... Thanks...the question as well as the answer.... Greetings to the very intelligent youngster who asked this
Rupert, beautiful, in his way to point to people the beauty of presence.
Think of time as an acronym. Time stands for The Infinite Moment Experience - which makes perfect sense, because there is only one moment, occuring infinitely and eternally :)
...excellent...of course the mind would have its objections !!
Such a beautiful explanation! Thank you Rupert!
I love you Rupert and i will meet you, dont know where and when (it will be here and now for sure), over the last few years you helped me (and many others) see and understand more clearly the true reality of our being as it is, thank you.
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I would so love for a scientist to try to debunk him....any scientist. Don't get me wrong, I have great respect for them, but they will have to tackle this very soon:)
Perfect 😍
LMAO
Love the ones w/this Alexander young fellow.
wat a beautiful explanation ❤
Time is just an artificial linear grid we place upon one present moment in which everything is constantly in motion. Your body doesn't age because of time passing. It ages because of atoms and cells moving.
Correction-3 dimensions of space and 1 dimension of time,apart from that what an absolutely incredible video. Amazing, so true. Namaste
"You know it through the experience of beauty."😍
thank you
Beauty-filled. How else to describe this exchange on the now between a man and a child?
even though all this makes sense, the hurt from memory does not go away. over and over again.
Why is anybody talking about who the kid is? Who is that kid?? Wise is who ask the right questions
Who is this brilliant young mind asking questions? Are they on social media?
Thanks Rupey! Excellent pointers. Great video!
He recalls something he said yesterday... I wish these teachers would just tell people that meditation can bring them into the presence of everything and leave it at that.
“3 dimentions of time and one of space”...nice one Rupert. Other than that, really deep explanation 👍
Good catch Alex!
I was really working on that one! 😂
Dr. Fred Blum thanks. It happens but it was funny 😁
That was, of course, just a slip in speech. He knows (very well) that its 3 of space and 1 of time.. There are at least a 1/2 dozen other videos on youtube where he talks about this same subject. "Time and Death" is a juicy one... to name one. Peace🙏
Mark Lesseraux you realize I’m aware of this. Anybody past 5th grade knows it. But it was funny trying to wrap my head around it, before realizing it was a mistake 😁
Bruce Wayne you’re deep bro but it makes no real sense 😁 3 space dimentions in 1? Have you gone to school? Even Batman has to take some physics classes (joking)
People keep telling me I should live in the moment. Trouble is, the moment sucks!
Wonderful explanation to that question. Oh my cosmos! Even i think in same manner but people tell me i am mad. They say it is play of words. Thank you for such wonderful explanation.
WoW you guys have such an amazing relationship, like father and daughter
When simplicity cripples the intellect....happy holidays!!...
Memory & traumatic memory in particular is not imagination
“Time and eternity intersect in the now”
8:59 I guess you wanted to say *"3 dimensions of space and 1 dimension of time",* which shape the spacetime in physics, aka the single four-dimensional continuum where time is woven in it (Einstein's theory of relativity).
Great lecture. Thank you!
What about trauma? I feel I have a lot of anxiety stored in my body.
Morrisey asked " how soon is now ' ? Very good question!
Amazing sense of humor as well.
time was a man made thing created all we know of is the “now”! when you think of the past it just memories 😢
They should have put rupert spira in my school instead of the date program.
He means; ‘three dimensions of space and one dimension of time’ instead of the other way around 😊
FANTASTIC!
I'd love to witness a conversation about time between Rupert and Carlo Rovelli! That'd be awesome
This is brilliant!
Excellent video. Thank you for your beauty!
I don't know what you're talking about, but it seems like you're telling the truth..
Time is a concept created by people
That was so beautiful!
Actually, I also thought about the same concept when i was a school student as there were no past or future
Even I was not able to conceptualize the past and future concepts.. Later I was forced myself to fit into these concepts when I dealt with English Grammar tense.
I think Tense is only a property of language to achieve communication goal.😅
Wow, what a brilliant boy! And how lucky he is to be taught (and seeking) this at such an early age. Grace is with him! ❤
Wonderful
I like it when Rupert seemed to have a hard time talking about beauty lol
That long pause is meant for us.... Get ready because I am about to hit you with something that you may want to brace for!
So… I’m a little confused. Is Mr. Spira stating that sleep is basically an unskippable cutscene or is it more like a loading screen?
We do know time exists by the theory of time dilation. As an object approaches the speed of light, time slows down. And this has been observed with satellite clocks when compared to ground clocks. Each position is experiencing time at a different rate. Both positions are in the 'now' independently, but relatively speaking 'now' happens at different times. The satellite clock would be from the past as compared to the ground clock and vice-versa. So different times do exist, but from an independent observation, time can never be experienced outside of the 'now'.
Besides Space and Time, Obect too is a limitation (desha-Kala-Vastu Parichcheda) that Mind superimposes on Infinite awareness. Varying relative timelines need not just be two but countless in which mind (of the physicist) experiences an object going through cause-n-effect relationship (Kaarana-Karya) in time-space.
the boys voice is very nice.. something in it .
this is a great question!
Can the dark night of the soul last a lifetime? Been on the path for a while and experience gets worse and worse.
It happens because you're being weaned off of experience entirely. It's like life keeps tightening the screw, allowing you to get away with less and less falsehood, until you have to surrender because there's absolutely no choice. The mental interpretation will often stay negative as the mind can't feel it's own disappearance as being other than traumatic, but this gets balanced with increasing presence which holds the space of this trauma, and the actual suffering, if you don't pay attention to what the mind is saying, is not that big at all. Like this, pain leaves the psyche and you move closer to your home. And no, it won't last your whole life. I wouldn't be concerned about that though. The way forward is always right here and the final goal is always right here, so there's no need to split your focus. Thank you so much for what you're doing.
No, it practically can't. Besides, there are upsides to what you are experiencing. You get stronger, and it gets better.
A lovely response from shazbut. My perception is somewhat different. I too experienced the dark night of the soul. But I realised (my supervisor very discretely hinted) that it was my imagination (thoughts and beliefs) that was ‘creating’ the journey and the dark night of the soul. Once I realised that I was ‘creating’ my own spiritual journey and realised how I was doing it, I changed the dark night of the soul into a more pleasant annihilation. I started the practices and 9 months later I reached my destination (I feel presence at every breath) but the journey continues.....there is so much to learn. Everyone’s journey is different because it’s a creation of their own mind. YOU have the power to control the dark night of the soul.
Search for yourself in suffering, you will never find yourself.
Ask yourself, is this suffering me? I got such a relief from this question, it helped a lot.
Time is the speed of the change of forms and all fhenomena.
But the experience of how fast the phenomena are changing is subjective and depends on our state of consciousness.
That's why we experience sometimes that a day passes fast and other times very slow although the whole day (from morning to evening) lasts the same time.
I think that’s why he said “seems”. It’s not real, it’s based on principles that rise and fall, come and go as perceived (really, just perceiving). Vibration x frequency dictates to the mind how it experiences time, but this is also illusory and in certain states, can be modified appropriately. Hence his orange glasses example.
we all live at an eternal now......now, now and now forever and this is what we have.That's an old trick that our mind insist of saying we're looking at a future that not exist and we are all confined in this mental prision Time and space but beyond that filter is eternity. [Salms 19:01]
You can visit the future Swoon, or past wanna now
Beautiful
I don't agree with Ruperts definition of time. Even though no one can physically go back to the past events but most definitely we cannot say that those events didn't happen. To measure the duration of events you need the clock movement to do that. Actually physical events have to do with the movements of objects in space but space itself does not move. Events happen in space and it is measured by the movement of the clock.
He didn't say the past didn't happen. The past only lives within our minds.
Human social society lives by the construct of time. Tomorrow when the clock says nine, I have to be at work. Maybe when we're dead without a human body we go by "no time."
Yes it is important to be aware of the concept of time just to function in a society. Problem comes when thoughts of going to work tomorrow draw your awareness out of the present. There is no tomorrow where i have to be somewhere at nine a clock. That is just an idea which happens in a present. I just go through the motions in a present moment and when the need to go to work rises, i go there in a present moment. It is possible to be aware of the present and still plan what you are going to do at some point. It is very liberating to live from that place.
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Who is from insta reel becoz that guy posted trimmed reels.
Imagined approximations of time can be useful when adjusting speed and avoiding cars, or if your a boxer avoiding punches. Einstein's special relativity has proposed that people's senses can sense at different rates. The faster your senses, given an adrenalin rush, the slower the world moves. Special Relativity is another example of the hard problem of consciousness.
:) So good! Thank you!!
If time is only a mind made thing how come we are getting old..?
I can follow the rationale of past and future not existing and thus only timeless now, but what else decays our body and any other objects in the world than time?
We are God's ( consciousness)dream and like the dreams we have it has to end so God can experience many more dreams.
'When we're asleep'. What do you mean by 'when', Rupert? Are you referencing the past, or the future?
Referencing our memory of the past, which creates the expectation that events will occur in the future. The past and future do not exist. Our (present) memory of the past is very real, as is our present expectation that events will occur in the future.
What you are describing is temporal solipsism, and it is as narrow minded as spatial solipsism is.
But even so, what then is the present memory of the past? Is it imagination? Hasn't the thing that memory pertains to occured?
@@theodorethinking Personally I find philosophical categories to be at best useless and at worst self-serving ("narrow-mindedness" nothwithstanding).
There's a barrier to answering the new question you shifted to, in that it requires me to describe why space/time doesn't exist using language that inherently assumes it does. T It becomes very easy to set up and fall into "gotcha!" traps. That said, I would say that memories are basically models of experience that are referred to (in the present) in order to allow us to function in the illusory world of space/time. The space/time/materialism model allows us to have a human experience, but like all models has limitations, and doesn't necessarily reflect "reality". I'm pretty much a novice at this understanding, so that's all I got for now.
I find unworkable theories about the non-existence of time useless, but those are preferences.
How do you reconcile change in your experience with the non-existence of time? Maybe we should define time first.
Anyway, as both Rupert and his teacher, Francis has reacted to personal solipsism, with the attitude of 'the solipsist may think that he is the only mind in the universe, but the rest of the world knows he is wrong'. That's why I said, 'no time' is solipsism's temporal cousin. You may think there's no time but clocks (and whatever changes) practically disagree.
@@theodorethinking Ok :)
Why kid is not visible...... U should have shown him....
What's wrong
But do we necessarily lose sense of time when we're sleeping? Is it not just perceived differently depending on our state? And it goes both ways. The waking perception of a dream in which a few minutes passed is possible whereas in our waking reality only a handful of seconds passed.
So beautiful
ONE NOW
Amazing
That would make me the whole universe of apparent time . Now . I’m that . Am I everything ! ?
Why do I get wrinkles in a spacetime logical order if there is no time
So when we pass away, it would be as though we never were alive to begin with.
Practice mindfulness with equinimity, thereby can remain within the period of silence, the bridge between transition and fading, mindless, to better shift to next life.
Just because a skier sees the snow as being only of the color orange, that absolutely doesn't mean that the snow has no color. It just means that you can only see orange, out of all the colors that the snow white contains.
That very example shows you that the limitation of the mind doesn't mean that colors (or time) doesn't exist, just that we only see a part of it.
You experience thousands of memories therefore you experience thousands of "pasts." No? But only one Now.
Beautiful :)
Mmm, interesting to say the least. Lots of stuff to think and meditate about. The only con I think of is the volume level, the mic was malfunctioning or what?
Good stuff anyway. Will look for other material from this guy.
Couldn't agree with the beauty and religious part, but it's a nice method however to experience the abstract parts of life.
You can't visit the past, that's why it's called the past. But you have visited the past when it was present, haven't you. You've been there.
If you hadn't been there, you wouldn't have the experience of the memory of it, corroborated by other people.
If you are willing to say that there is no past, you are willing to take that shared experience of memory, and lump it with imagination.
Is that how Rupert Spira lives? Thinking the past hasn't existed? Or does he concede the past exists when he's dealing with everyday life?
Rupert Spira does not live. Life is living. That what we call everyday life is a dream, an illusion, leela, a mirage arising out of the timeless consciousness
Yeah, sure, but that is unrelated to what Rupert Spira said about the past and the future. Even a dream has a duration.
Time and duration does not exist. Everything what happens, disappear in the same "moment". Time and duration seems to be, like the sky seems to be blue. Like water of a mirage. There is no water and there is no duration
The only reason you have a sense of time is because your experiences change. Saying there's time is like saying there is a separate screen for every scene in a movie.
the mind doesn't have to think of the past there is no past where the mind is concerned there are essentially cells or parts of your body stuck in the past but if you just be completely attention turned to the present then every cell in your body has no choice but to be completely looking at the present and it flows in the way that animals flow no past (depression) or future (anxiety) just energies flowing through the body pushing and pulling around stop asking these questions there is nothing to think about your mind will break and your ego will inflate, jusy stay as the silence until the entire world becomes compkete silence and a beautiful technicolor dream state with insane energies flowing through your body, it all starts with giving up letting go of all assumptions that you are anything but thay perfect silent emptiness and that is when the magic happens, exactly when you just stop trying (do not try to not try, set your internal intention as not trying you can still do things)
9:00-9:22 amazing
Wouldn't beauty also be distorted by those lenses?
If we only take our, only our, current, only current experience, then reality is one-dimensional, and really, really limited. It's an instantaneous limited lump of experience that doesn't have room for other experience other than our limited moment self's, let alone other minds' or the universe.
It's the mind looking at the Eternal Now as one moment sandwiched between past and present :)
@@arvindpare8519 Is that an experience, or is it a theory?
@@theodorethinking dear Theodore, my experience will be same as yours -- an instantaneous limited lump, frightening even :)
So, allow the mind it's intrinsic limitation of time and experience the universe and others' experiences. 🙏
@@SwadhyayaMysoreArvind When will that happen? In the future?
@@theodorethinking Please read your original comment for reference as you read this answer.
Mind is constrained to think within a three walled prison of Space-Time-Object. If it sounds like a theory, try thinking without these three dimensions...mind gets stunned. When you talk of "instant"aneous lump of experience and therefore being unable to accommodate either the universe or other people's experiences, my guess is your not allowing time which is a flow past-present-future or alternatively you can say that you are not allowing mind space.
When they talk of remaining in the present, that's to be understood like this: What is the length of the present moment? A minute? A second? A milli-second? A nano second? So really the content of Present is your Presence...You as timeless awareness are aware of time whereas time is not aware of you. 🙏
If the infinite self can never know the finite self and the finite self can never know the infinite self, then how does enlightenment (which implies partaking of both) ever happen?
it doesnt , its already one . Finiteness is perception , Infinite is reality .
If the past does not exist, why do we see the traces of the past?
You can't bring past back in your experience you can only have the memory of it.
“ confusing but makes sense”. Yes, one word describes the Truth: paradoxical.
As far as the “mind”: it must vanish before God Realization is attained. The Mind doesn’t want to be destroyed. That’s why it is so difficult to experience being awake in all states ( including deep sleep ) continuously without a break ( for most only in deep sleep is Reality experienced, ( unconsciously) but then we return to the so-called awake state which is nothing more than illusion that the mind calls reality. Avatar Meher Baba said it best when he stated:
“Mind wants to know that which is beyond mind. To know that
which is beyond mind, mind must go-vanish, leaving no vestige
of itself behind. The humour of it is, the mind, which is finite,
wants to retain itself and yet know Truth, which is infinite. This is
the position of those who seek Truth through intellect. Few grasp
this fact, and so most grope and grapple in vain”
-Meher Baba