A real KTM? KTM 790 Adventure ride-along review
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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- The 2023 KTM 790 Adventure looks like a KTM, smells like a KTM, and feels like a KTM, but it's cheaper than what you'd expect to pay for a KTM... So, what's the catch?
Well, you're not getting an Austrian-made motorcycle.
For the new 790 Adventure, KTM has outsourced production to China. Does this really matter? James takes the 2023 790 Adventure for a ride to find out.
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I bought this bike 3 months ago. Made 5000 km so far. Its such a lovely a nice bike. Do not care china part. Almost all brands are in china even the phones you are using. I drove 700 km non stop and ı enjoy every km. I also rode Transalp but you cannot compare KTM 790 ADV with it. KTM is way better for sure. There are lots of extras like the gent explains in the video such as heating seat and grips and and also comfort seats. But ı found it quite comfortable even thought ım 1.85 and 112 kg. The only thing ı don't like is quickshifter+cruise control and rally mode is extra after 1500km later. And thank you for the gent who explained the bike really well. Have a lovely day all!
Do you feel any heat from the engine on your legs?
@@ramtrevino8788in winter nope but summer yes. But i had 2015 tenere 660 before. So compare to that nope its not that hot. But if you are living in Turkey where sometimes degree raise to 43 its too much heat for sure. But only annoying when you stuck in the traffic.
@@mustafaemircandolcan997 Thanks
It is assemble in China, it is not Chinese. This one crawls better than the previous one due to the crank being from the 890 from what I know. Fact check that. It may be said, this video is running in the background.
Ironically, everyone is in love with the Chinese cfmoto 450mt at $6500usd but hate on this 790.
If KTM had any intention of putting crappy components on this 790, it would not put its KTM badge on it. I would buy this bike over the 890 adventure, which only has adjustable front suspension over this 790. Putting reliablity aside, this bike is superior to any Japanese rival, in all aspects. And reliabilty is not far off, and more due to poor quality control on the production line. It is my feeling that quality control will be tighter on the cfmoto production line, just because this is a good deal for cfmoto, and they will not want to lose it.
My 890 Adv rear suspension is adjustable for rebound dampening and tooless preload adjustment.
@@JohnSmith-rp8uh yes, the 790, I believe has the same, but no adjustment on the front, as the new 890 has. Having said that, the suspension, on the 790, is WP and more than capable for the normal adventure rider.
One thing going for the 790 Adventure over the competition (Tenere 700, Transalp 750 and 800 DE) is that it has Cruise Control! For some, not having cruise control in this day and age is a deal-breaker.
And tubeless wheels!
I have the Aprilia Tuareg 660 and it comes standard with cruise control and tubeless spoked wheels. A lot of people are concerned about dealer Network or reliability and honestly that's not that big of a problem. $18.00 for a pdf version of the service manual and the ability to order parts online, you or your preferred mechanic can pretty much do everything you need to this bike.
but the cruise control shuts off after so many miles along with a bunch of other stuff and you need to shell out more money to keep it
@@mrt4755 I think you're talking about demo mode. When I bought mine I knew that up ahead so I just said unlock it now.
its an extra $800 so its really a $12,000 bike if you want all the features @@turbolag5107
Most of the parts of KTM 890 are coming from China... No matter where the bikes has been made. Important thing is that quality standarts of the brand.
I loved my 790 (2019 / Austrian built), but wasn't impressed with the build quality. Within 2 years it was showing quite a bit of corrosion on the fasteners and spoke nipples, and the TFT screen was constantly steaming up inside. It developed a few rattles that I could never pin down and some warm starting issues too, and my bikes tend to have an easy time. Maybe the Chinese can improve the quality!
oh man do I feel ya there. Warped rotors, rear brake caliper mount broke, 3 rim seals for the front, immobilizer failure, 3-4 tries for a cold start, and now its in the shop for an MTC error message and won't start. Love the bike and how it rides but the quality is the worst of any bike I've ever owned.
It was very nice to be able to watch it with Turkish subtitles. The video made me a little dizzy but it was enjoyable, thank you, greetings from Turkey.
I find the seating / standing position pretty good and well thought out on this one. Maybe some aspect of personal taste, but the bolt upright standing position a lot of adventure riders tend to favour isn't actually good practice, you need to have an engaged core and be in a somewhat aggressive stance for most offroad settings (I wouldn't say this bike is super aggressive, just somewhere in the middle). It's not as comfortable, sure, but you're always going to be limited to basic stuff if you don't have your weight forward, elbows up, and unlocked knees.
What most people don't understand about "made in" is that it can be completely faked by a company if they want to.
If KTM gets a pre ensembled bike in their factory in Austria and in 20 minutes they can put the bike together that would qualify as made in Austria, and as someone mentioned most of the components would probably be made in China anyway.
Really fancy one but including the comments here, all I seem to read about is reliability. Thoughts?
I bought a 24 a few months ago. Have 3k miles on it. Great bike. Watching this video puts me at ease a tad as these engines sound pretty clattery. The one in the video is very much clattery sounding as well.
The question remains the same…… Reliability??????
I like how no one seems to want to mention the Aprilia Tuareg 660. I own one and I'm looking at getting this 790 for my girlfriend as an upgrade bike. Y'all have to stop sleeping on that Aprilia. It is a fantastic motorcycle and it deserves its recognition.
Hows the reliability on the taureg? Seriously considering one. Just underrated...
@@rhonwyngilbert4102 it has stupid little issues. Earlier models had leaky water pumps which were fixed under warranty, original front wheel bearings for some people have worn out relatively fast but then again they could be beating the crap out of the motorcycle in the dirt. The fuel sending unit seems to be a little shoddy and it took about 9,000 mi for mine to give me a fault. Other than the stupid little issues the engine and everything is completely sound. Even a lot of people who have had their first valve service say that the valves were still within spec and did not need adjustment. The shift lever is a little big and if you drop it on the left just right you can snap the shift lever pivot bolt but there are aftermarket solutions for that. It's all little stupid stuff. Every bike has its little stupid stuff
The 660 is surprisingly good, but overpriced imo, The 790 impressed as well, but what’s the saying 🤔 There’s no replacement for Displacement 😂 I bought the Super Adventure 1290! Love it
@@neoquest2012 the new 790 is also saving money being built in China VS the Tuareg in Italy.
My closest dealer is 300 miles away. Deal breaker but would if they had a better network.
Is this anything like the old 640 Adventure? That was one of the best bikes I ever had and took me to Morocco on two occasions.
Oh perfect timing, I'm looking to get this bike soon
Now when i have up the motorcycle thing in early 2000s i don't think ktm were really a thing, all I've really know of KTM, is its a monster enduro bike that you slap on a sat nav and hair arsing over a desert. Now are these little 790s actually a practical machine, do u really need adjustable suspension, i guess most people wouldn't know how to set it up( i certainly wouldn't) does some clever enginer who sets up desert bikes select the suspension. In the real world how do these compare to a transalp or a Vstrom 800, is one better than another, or just a different take on the same thing?
I would really like to see some comments about Ktm reliability. I am looking to buy a KTM 890 adventure R or the 790, but I hear whispers of reliability issues of Ktm’s……. Thoughts? Anyone…… Anyone…… Bueller…… Bueller….
How does it compare to the 800 DE? Better?
Shame most of this video was filmed with a potatoe ;) IMO the 790 is a bargain at less than £10k no much if anything to beat it for mixed adventure. If this version existed at the time I bought my 890 Adventure, I would have gotten this instead. Barring the suspension (which need work on the 890 and 890 R anyway), this has all the same updates the 890 does minus the larger bore.
Try working on a Harley without a set of metric wrenches. You won’t get far.
Yes if you pay extra
How does it compare to a tiger 900 GT?
It’s not sub-£10K anymore, it’s now £10.5K, so with creeping inflation it’ll wont be long before it’s close to the price the 890 is now. And if you want any options like a centre stand, heated grips, or the electronic demo stuff it quickly gets well past £12K. Bikes are getting stupidly expensive across the board. At least there’s a thriving market in the 500cc-ish segment for those of us with less money, or less of an appetite to spend car prices on a hobby toy. The explanation of selling more bikes makes no sense when they’re only 100cc apart and basically the same in spec, yet supposed to be two separate, distinct models. Maybe they’re seeing how China works out before shifting the entire midrange over there. That would make more sense as everyone else is at it. How long before the 990 Adventure comes out though? Maybe we’ll get a Chinese 890 in autumn 😂
they decided to keep 790 due to the new 990 adv witch is coming next year
How can every bike on this channel be the best / best value?
does the 790 have cruise control??
Many thanks for this complete review. In France, I don't know why, we don't have a sigle report on this bike so far. I reckon that the fact this bike is produced in China doesn't help. Even the dealers are quite scared to speak about it.
Your review was absoluty complete and very detailled regarding the feeling, great job.
Thanks, glad you found it informative.
Unrelated question to the actual video, sorry! Is there ways to join this type of media business if you're not a "talk on camera" type of guy? I've started to get a good pool of followers on the gram topping at 800 people, but bouncing around 796. I'm looking to try and jump over to youtube but while i can type coherently and concisely, i have no skill at talking and pure raw riding video seems to show low retention of subscribers based off of youtubers I watch.
Sorry for the impromptu question, I got your websites email and you were riding my baby brother bike in it.
CFmoto 800MT is the same bike but far more features like GPS lane keep assist and heated grips and seats then it then its got blind spot detection and rear impact radar and a few other things all for a few grand less then the KTM version so this bike is dead at launch except to people who dont know the CFmoto 800mt exists or have too much money to spend
Same engine but different bike. Chassis, frame, suspension, etc. are different according to Big Rock Moto ruclips.net/video/EbaCecujcHs/видео.htmlsi=ZsEnhrmggCyBdBMe&t=101
Can’t say I agree with you. CF Moto dealer network is virtually nonexistent in my part of the world. The 790 Adventure is not “dead at launch ” here.
nice vid-btw, are you riding the R?
No, it's not the R model
At least you have a chance at reliability on a Chinese version. My Austrian 790 has been the most unreliable bike I've ever owned. Clutch, cams, shift linkage, coolant leaks, screen fogs, wheel leaked.
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I was thinking about getting one until I heard it's now made in China. The smaller KTM's made in India. Now this in China. Hmm, not sure if their only reason is to sell more. Or are they getting desparate? Until they prove that a Chinese made KTM is no Less KTM, I think people might veer towards other brands. I personally have decided to go for the new Transalp and with the praises it's been getting worldwide, I think it has a great prospect. Of course it's missing things like cornering abs, cruise control, tubeless tires, but at least all in all, it's still a Honda.
And where is the Honda Transalp built? Here's a clue .... not Japan ....
@@MotoGoato now I don’t care anymore because I got a KTM 790 and really happy with it.
@@erkutgurun good man ... I have a 790 too, but a Duke not an Adventure 😉
how is the wind buffeting? Seems to be pretty loud
Hi @fleshpie2129, because the screen sits quite low, you do get a lot of air flowing around your shoulders and helmet. That airflow is pretty smooth, so buffeting isn't really an issue, but I was cleaning plenty of bugs off my visor in the summer.
I’m 192cm tall and testrode the bike a few weeks ago for half a day. You get airflow around your helmet but I had zero buffeting which really surprised me cause my CB500X is horrible in that regard.
Maybe that helps as well.
They make you pay for options you paid for after 1500 km wtf
As these products expand into various cultural streams it’ll be interesting to how our sense of frugality reconciles with our political proclivities. To put it into bold relief, can anyone see the Harley tribe embracing CFMoto?
In my opinion KTM really fcuk up - a lot of customers were waiting for a 490 Adventure. I was so angry when they canceled the 490 platform that I sold my 790 Adventure R and bought a Kove 450 Rally instead.
bruv wipe your camera before filming.
Not buying anything from China not buying anthing electric battery
KTM =keeps taking money. Don’t forget the free dog you get with a new bike. To keep you company whilst waiting for recovery . Reliability isa massive issue fir me
made in china
(Un)fortunately I stopped watching after hearing "made in China".
Assembled in China…still made/designed by KTM
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