Jesse cracked me up at 1:03:10, using nuclear power to bring a gacha character to life. Edit: About fully voicing FF XIV, in my opinion it would be a waste of time/money/effort to fully voice the old content considering this is a live service and it'll eventually be taken down anyway. If this could be run standalone in a few decades, even after the live service has been taken down, I think it may be worth it. Also, thank you for that amazing show! I thoroughly enjoyed it!
They also can't voice some of the dialogue since it's using our character names. Unvoiced cutscenes gives the characters an actual chance to use it, when we're only referenced or "you" in voiced dialogue.
I will go out on a limb and say the intro could probably be 15-20 seconds max. A little music and references to the hosts, and then right into the show. As you suggested JP, the analytics say most people are skipping it as it is.
Does the average podcast listener actually like lengthy intros? I can understand if it's mostly there for vibes and getting listeners in the mood, but as you said, a 15s intro achieves the same thing. I'm not gonna act like this is the end of the world but it is inconvenient when I'm preoccupied with a random task and the next podcast in queue has a 60s intro that I need to pull out my phone to skip. It's just a mild annoyance that doesn't have to be there
during the AI dialogue portion, Jesse said, "If you're not good at reading" with literally zero sarcasm or shade and I just want to say that warms my heart.
I would want a Goblin Slayer-esque Elden Ring show. Episodic quests of bad assness that turns out to have an impactful season arc. I can't see how a show would work outside of anime.
After discussing a potential Elden Ring TV show, I gotta mention the manga adaptation Road to the Erdtree. It's a full comedy gag manga following the beats of a playthrough of Elden Ring but where the MC is an idiot and Melina keeps trying to allocate int to make him smarter. It's brilliant, the best way I could ask for a souls game to be adapted
To be fair RUclips community posts make way more sense now. Like for a poll of a discussion, the kind of thing you used to do on twitter. It just seems to on average get way more engagement on RUclips, like a mid sized content creator with like 70k subscribers can regularly get a hundred replies on a community post. Whereas on twitter that same content creator might get 5 replies. It doesn't seem like something that will convert into a lot of money for RUclips if any buy like in terms of utility for a creator it's decent. Like its way less likely to go viral and leave your community and invite harassment onto you, it seems way better at targeting your audience than twitter is. Like I know several RUclipsrs who have moved their general shit posting to RUclips community posts because they can have a bit of fun make some jokes get some replies and they don't have to deal with the baggage of twotter
I didn't find Shadow of the Erdtree to be that difficult. Maybe it was due to my STR/FAI build, or that I've been through the game so many times. But I destroyed the DLC, even without using any summons (NPC or Spirit Ashes). The boss that I struggled the hardest on was Commander Gaius (the boar rider). I expected it to be the last boss, because I heard rumors that he's insanely tough, but my build destroyed him. Only took me 4 tries. Definitely had some really fun fights and some really cool areas, probably my favorite FromSoft DLC up to this point, taking the title from Old Hunters.
There's nothing wrong with your build. As in, its probably not OP or broken. As jesse said, people likely forgot how to play the game and jumped straight into the DLC. I am running a pure STR build with a little bit of INT. I got through the DLC just fine playing with a variety of colossal weapons. Note that i also didn't use a single summon throughout the DLC or the base game. I'm not even a hardcore souls fan, im honestly as casual as it gets
Its funny because for me Gaius was by far the easiest story/main boss (not counting like random side bosses) that I fought. I didnt even need a shield for him just 2h wep no summons no spirit. meanwhile for other bosses like dancing lion I needed summons and spirits and for rellana/mesmer I did them solo but I had a big shield helping me.
Seems to make sense I guess? I haven't seen anything about him and his wife/xwife on Twitter in ages. hell even there Bourben cooking show hasn't done anything. plus apparently, he was living in what? Arkansas or some shit for a while?
For folks show don't know, they got divorced. You can probably find a twitch clip about where both of them are there talking about it. It was amicable, they announced it actually months after they had personally decided to do it so they had already gone through all the emotional damage over it. So the announcement was pretty matter of fact. They seem to be splitting on good terms. But that's also why JP has moved back to Texas and was staying in a temporary place for a while
I doubt the people complaining about Erdtree’s difficulty “forgot how to play”. A lot of the people complaining about unbalanced difficulty are veterans who replay the souls games all the time.
@@truebeliever401 all the complaints about balancing are from people who have completed all the previous souls games. You only have to look at the negative user reviews online to see it, but even if you didn’t it should be common sense. Why would someone who has never played the previous games be complaining that this one has worse balancing than those games?
@@BasketCase-rr7tx and many other veterans said the DLC is fine (go see Cohh's and Moist Critical's video and see the comments). This can go both ways, we both can make the same point to support our claims. But whats very clear is that, it seems that FromSoft clearly want the player (however skilled they are) to level up using the new progression mechanic. Otherwise, bosses will do too much damage and you will do too little. They had to balance the DLC around players being full build. With regards to balance, I have been playing FromSoft games for years now, and with every new release, there's always a boss(es) that the community complains about. But one boss that was commonly complained about by most, is Commander Gaius. The rest are very polarizing in terms of difficulty (which is normal). Different bosses can vary in difficulty for different players/builds.
@@truebeliever401 well by “veterans” you are talking about different people than me. I was just talking about people who are fans of the series. You’re talking about content creators who are using this as an opportunity to act like they are better at games than other people, which they very well may be, but it’s also not really the point here.
@@BasketCase-rr7tx i don't follow many non-lore FromSoft veterans, but i watch "Chase the Bro" and "FightingCowboy" and they both had a reasonably difficult time in the DLC bosses from their first playthroughs but nothing out of the ordinary except for (again) commander gaius. "reasonably difficult" as in normal soulsborne first time playthrough struggles. I guess you could include the final boss (name isn't mentioned for spoilers), but i think the Final boss can be regarded as an exception because its meant to be a very difficult challenged and one of the most difficult bosses FromSoft have ever released. With regards to the complaints, soulsborne games have always had boss(es) in each installment that had the community fuming about balance. This time however, this is happening during the discussion of the GENERAL difficulty of the DLC and the game. With many new players review bombing the game claiming "its too difficult". So, the issue arises when the people complaining about the general difficulty of the DLC are citing the community's balance discussion as evidence for the DLC being too difficult. Im not saying there couldn't be balance problems, im saying that even with those balance problems you can still beat the game AND the DLC with proper builds and mechanics. Also you need to remember, balance problems swing both ways. You can have a broken strong build that trivializes the boss fight. If a casual mele-only, no summoning player such as myself can complete the DLC, so can everyone else. From my point of view, the people complaining about the difficulty are like people that buy a ticket for a Horror movie, watch it and complain there was too many jump scares.
I've watched every episode of this show with the curruent intro. And I haven't skipped it once. But I also never skip the intro of a tv series. So i guess I'm s really special snowflake 🤷♂️
-I understand that people who make a career out of playing games for others to watch choose to not read books, but those of us with careers that require education do read books.
Dammit JP. You're not supposed to replace the Jesse Cox of your show (Cohh) with the actual Jesse Cox.. Great set of topics today though! Nintendo pricing, reactors, Erdtree etc 👍
Kind of sad you didn't talk about the doctor disrespect ban at all since it happened. You had an opportunity last week and didn't do it again this week. Meanwhile every other content creator I follow outside of twitch has talked about it a bunch. People look the other way when their salary depends on it.
@@The_Erlking Seems like Dropped Frames is Dropping The Ball. Maybe they're too busy tiptoeing around the elephant in the room to notice their audience deserves transparency. At this rate, the only 'ban' they'll talk about is the one on being honest about Twitch.
Twitch offering a patreon style solution and only taking 30% seems fair to me, Patreon takes a big chunk of lower cost memberships in payment processing, I can see it working, if it is supported properly with great features, like how Steam does things.
I sometimes just buy games on Steam during a sale that I already own on other storefronts just because those other storefronts suck and I cba dealing with their interface and horrible client >
These are two of my favorite guests! Dan and Jesse are just delightful. (you too JP), great episode!
Talking about books: Anybody who needs a great series to read, Stormlight Archives. Great opening to the Cosmere.
"People that watch the intro, which are vey few, most people skip it"
They know!
Jesse cracked me up at 1:03:10, using nuclear power to bring a gacha character to life.
Edit: About fully voicing FF XIV, in my opinion it would be a waste of time/money/effort to fully voice the old content considering this is a live service and it'll eventually be taken down anyway. If this could be run standalone in a few decades, even after the live service has been taken down, I think it may be worth it.
Also, thank you for that amazing show! I thoroughly enjoyed it!
I fell off my chair
They also can't voice some of the dialogue since it's using our character names. Unvoiced cutscenes gives the characters an actual chance to use it, when we're only referenced or "you" in voiced dialogue.
So I watch the entrance to the show. I am the small percent.
I will go out on a limb and say the intro could probably be 15-20 seconds max. A little music and references to the hosts, and then right into the show. As you suggested JP, the analytics say most people are skipping it as it is.
That's a pretty sturdy limb.
umm... nope. It's a minute exactly but don't ask me how I know that...
Does the average podcast listener actually like lengthy intros? I can understand if it's mostly there for vibes and getting listeners in the mood, but as you said, a 15s intro achieves the same thing. I'm not gonna act like this is the end of the world but it is inconvenient when I'm preoccupied with a random task and the next podcast in queue has a 60s intro that I need to pull out my phone to skip. It's just a mild annoyance that doesn't have to be there
i would still skip
"I am ATOMIC!"
- Some Isekai Protagonist
Some "Shadowy" protagonist.
Bruh…. The expanse gets better after the first season which I love lol
y'all are so fun together
during the AI dialogue portion, Jesse said, "If you're not good at reading" with literally zero sarcasm or shade and I just want to say that warms my heart.
On the topic of power of British voices, American Dad episode "Killer Vacation" did exactly that joke.
This show is still peak.
Rami I get it why is on the intro, but when was Jericho last the show?
I'm also a intro watcher!
I had the same thought. Jericho used to show his face pretty frequently but I can't think of the last time he was here.
"12 years will pass" yup, Skyrim playthrough was 12 years ago...
another dig at @itmeJP quality control :D, Jesse's video is 3 pixels higher than Dan's, their incline starts at the same height tho
Huzzah, came home from errands and saw this video was posted 43 seconds ago. I might be one of the first 10 views.
Long winded way of saying “First”
@@Hyakudeaths except I'm still here watching the podcast to the end
How tf do you come up with these thumbnails Regi? 😂
10/10
Jesse is always the MOAR. (Lord Death Swallow best gaming reporter on the internet BTW)
Kotaku is no video games site anymore since ages ago... let alone a video games news site.
I would want a Goblin Slayer-esque Elden Ring show. Episodic quests of bad assness that turns out to have an impactful season arc. I can't see how a show would work outside of anime.
Great guests!
Jp best be doing another geekenders.
That was the funniest thing of my life
Its kinda cool how dan is coh & jessi is zeke. Jp makes good calls😂
I love the intro! RIP zanzil
After discussing a potential Elden Ring TV show, I gotta mention the manga adaptation Road to the Erdtree.
It's a full comedy gag manga following the beats of a playthrough of Elden Ring but where the MC is an idiot and Melina keeps trying to allocate int to make him smarter. It's brilliant, the best way I could ask for a souls game to be adapted
The into still has that one frame missing too and its been how many yrs since that intro now lol
Two of my favorite guest hosts. Thanks for all the laughs!
Steve: "You sound smart like Hugh Grant the movie star, but you're stupid like Hugh Grant the person!"
Of course, the one time I skip the intro, they start goofing about it.
Best time stamps in all of youtube
Now I'm going to watch the intro just to spite the analytics!
IsThereAnyDeal wasn't mentioned? Huh.
To be fair RUclips community posts make way more sense now. Like for a poll of a discussion, the kind of thing you used to do on twitter. It just seems to on average get way more engagement on RUclips, like a mid sized content creator with like 70k subscribers can regularly get a hundred replies on a community post. Whereas on twitter that same content creator might get 5 replies. It doesn't seem like something that will convert into a lot of money for RUclips if any buy like in terms of utility for a creator it's decent. Like its way less likely to go viral and leave your community and invite harassment onto you, it seems way better at targeting your audience than twitter is.
Like I know several RUclipsrs who have moved their general shit posting to RUclips community posts because they can have a bit of fun make some jokes get some replies and they don't have to deal with the baggage of twotter
All the new Twitch options sounds like all of what RUclips is doing tbh. Even the heart is like a play button.
No DF this week?
Jp, jesse and dunkey are the same person or brothers from another mother 😂
I love Dan, and I have to mention Dan looks like a nintendo NPC when he is idling
FAVORITE GUESTS!!!
came for the cox, not disappointed, more ffxiv and random micro rants
Anytime Jesse goes to say anything "literally..."
I didn't find Shadow of the Erdtree to be that difficult. Maybe it was due to my STR/FAI build, or that I've been through the game so many times. But I destroyed the DLC, even without using any summons (NPC or Spirit Ashes). The boss that I struggled the hardest on was Commander Gaius (the boar rider). I expected it to be the last boss, because I heard rumors that he's insanely tough, but my build destroyed him. Only took me 4 tries. Definitely had some really fun fights and some really cool areas, probably my favorite FromSoft DLC up to this point, taking the title from Old Hunters.
There's nothing wrong with your build. As in, its probably not OP or broken. As jesse said, people likely forgot how to play the game and jumped straight into the DLC.
I am running a pure STR build with a little bit of INT. I got through the DLC just fine playing with a variety of colossal weapons.
Note that i also didn't use a single summon throughout the DLC or the base game. I'm not even a hardcore souls fan, im honestly as casual as it gets
Its funny because for me Gaius was by far the easiest story/main boss (not counting like random side bosses) that I fought. I didnt even need a shield for him just 2h wep no summons no spirit. meanwhile for other bosses like dancing lion I needed summons and spirits and for rellana/mesmer I did them solo but I had a big shield helping me.
2:04:15 You can't trust them… anymore?
Was there ever a point, when you could trust any of these messages? :D
Proud intro frame enjoyer here!
Did Jp say x-wife ? or did i hear it wrong ?
Yeah I heard it too.
Seems to make sense I guess? I haven't seen anything about him and his wife/xwife on Twitter in ages. hell even there Bourben cooking show hasn't done anything. plus apparently, he was living in what? Arkansas or some shit for a while?
Yeah and he's moving out. On her Instagram she's travelling on a girls trip so all the stereotypes are checking out.
For folks show don't know, they got divorced. You can probably find a twitch clip about where both of them are there talking about it. It was amicable, they announced it actually months after they had personally decided to do it so they had already gone through all the emotional damage over it. So the announcement was pretty matter of fact. They seem to be splitting on good terms. But that's also why JP has moved back to Texas and was staying in a temporary place for a while
@@LooseCo thanks!
S tier Thumbnail right here :D amazing
I doubt the people complaining about Erdtree’s difficulty “forgot how to play”. A lot of the people complaining about unbalanced difficulty are veterans who replay the souls games all the time.
The only boss that was complained about by veterans was commander gaius
@@truebeliever401 all the complaints about balancing are from people who have completed all the previous souls games. You only have to look at the negative user reviews online to see it, but even if you didn’t it should be common sense. Why would someone who has never played the previous games be complaining that this one has worse balancing than those games?
@@BasketCase-rr7tx and many other veterans said the DLC is fine (go see Cohh's and Moist Critical's video and see the comments). This can go both ways, we both can make the same point to support our claims.
But whats very clear is that, it seems that FromSoft clearly want the player (however skilled they are) to level up using the new progression mechanic. Otherwise, bosses will do too much damage and you will do too little. They had to balance the DLC around players being full build.
With regards to balance, I have been playing FromSoft games for years now, and with every new release, there's always a boss(es) that the community complains about. But one boss that was commonly complained about by most, is Commander Gaius. The rest are very polarizing in terms of difficulty (which is normal). Different bosses can vary in difficulty for different players/builds.
@@truebeliever401 well by “veterans” you are talking about different people than me. I was just talking about people who are fans of the series. You’re talking about content creators who are using this as an opportunity to act like they are better at games than other people, which they very well may be, but it’s also not really the point here.
@@BasketCase-rr7tx i don't follow many non-lore FromSoft veterans, but i watch "Chase the Bro" and "FightingCowboy" and they both had a reasonably difficult time in the DLC bosses from their first playthroughs but nothing out of the ordinary except for (again) commander gaius. "reasonably difficult" as in normal soulsborne first time playthrough struggles.
I guess you could include the final boss (name isn't mentioned for spoilers), but i think the Final boss can be regarded as an exception because its meant to be a very difficult challenged and one of the most difficult bosses FromSoft have ever released.
With regards to the complaints, soulsborne games have always had boss(es) in each installment that had the community fuming about balance. This time however, this is happening during the discussion of the GENERAL difficulty of the DLC and the game. With many new players review bombing the game claiming "its too difficult". So, the issue arises when the people complaining about the general difficulty of the DLC are citing the community's balance discussion as evidence for the DLC being too difficult.
Im not saying there couldn't be balance problems, im saying that even with those balance problems you can still beat the game AND the DLC with proper builds and mechanics. Also you need to remember, balance problems swing both ways. You can have a broken strong build that trivializes the boss fight.
If a casual mele-only, no summoning player such as myself can complete the DLC, so can everyone else.
From my point of view, the people complaining about the difficulty are like people that buy a ticket for a Horror movie, watch it and complain there was too many jump scares.
Always good to have dan and jesse on!
come on Anis, Rapi and Neon are nothing like that. Nikke has a good story when they're not doing the maid stuff.
if jesse changes the tone and cadence he speaks in for videos say hello to 4hour ones... at least
Dan And Jesse are great guests to see ^^
You should *NEVER* trust internet ads
I love the old intro
These two new guys are derailing champs
I don't know what you guys are talking about I only watch the intro and then close out the video.
I watch the intro all the time. If I don't hear the intro music before I watch the show then the show feels incomplete to me.
I've watched every episode of this show with the curruent intro.
And I haven't skipped it once.
But I also never skip the intro of a tv series. So i guess I'm s really special snowflake 🤷♂️
I miss the monkey shirt during that dropped frame of the intro
The Expanse take from Jesse at end is a bad take... the show got better and better and ended great.
Jesse is one whole bad take, tbh.
I feel like people say, 'I feel like...' way too often. Anyone else feel like that?
Nikke will Anis Rapi your wallet.
Repeatedly.
The trophies look like bleeding hearts.
-I understand that people who make a career out of playing games for others to watch choose to not read books, but those of us with careers that require education do read books.
Pog
Four Boys?
IGN is the worst journalism
Dammit JP. You're not supposed to replace the Jesse Cox of your show (Cohh) with the actual Jesse Cox..
Great set of topics today though! Nintendo pricing, reactors, Erdtree etc 👍
Btw, about the intro; It's fine. A tad long in the tooth, as you said.
real talk, the intro needs to be *even longer.*
Oh shit. Great idea!
4th one JP. Poor honkai impact 😂
Oop
is dan using lipstick or is it just the video quality
Kind of sad you didn't talk about the doctor disrespect ban at all since it happened. You had an opportunity last week and didn't do it again this week. Meanwhile every other content creator I follow outside of twitch has talked about it a bunch. People look the other way when their salary depends on it.
There's nothing to say that hasn't already been said on the issue.
@@The_Erlking Seems like Dropped Frames is Dropping The Ball. Maybe they're too busy tiptoeing around the elephant in the room to notice their audience deserves transparency. At this rate, the only 'ban' they'll talk about is the one on being honest about Twitch.
Not a fan of Jesse. Catch you next week.
Twitch offering a patreon style solution and only taking 30% seems fair to me, Patreon takes a big chunk of lower cost memberships in payment processing, I can see it working, if it is supported properly with great features, like how Steam does things.
I am all for the power of anime and pixel boobs funding nuclear fusion power research, this sounds amazing :P
Y'all crazy, the intro is my favorite part. 🤌
I sometimes just buy games on Steam during a sale that I already own on other storefronts just because those other storefronts suck and I cba dealing with their interface and horrible client >