As a former gymnast for 12 years, I've had my fair share of breaks, including hairline fractures, including 2 broken vertebrae. Orthos dont give you a choice between a splint and a cast. They tell you which they're giving you. And they wouldn't cast an arm for only 2 weeks, its usually a minimum of 4.
Actually they have done that for my sister in law. They weren't sure if it was broken on sister n law and told her "well we can cast it for a few weeks or give u a splint." she chose cast because she wanted sympathy. They'll do that for people who are crying in pain and claiming they think it's broke , just in case so they don't get sued or to shut them up (I think that was the case with sis I'm law)
It feels to me like they were trying to placate a child that kept complaining when nothing was wrong, with mom encouraging it all just to make dad look bad. If my kids tell me their arm hurts I don’t immediately take them to the hospital. Tell me how it feels in a day lol.
@@clarissa8477If my child showed serious pain just from her arm being touched…yes…we would go to urgent care or Er. Her father had previously been violent and was ordered to go to anger management.
If radial head fracture most common fracture both splint and caste are considered equivalent, the Ortho office gets paid more to cast, I’m a pediatrician and the newer decs are braces when able due to care issues. Now 2 weeks is pretty odd unless sprain.
I think the tears are genuine. I'd be tearing up too. When I get emotional like that, the fact that I'm starting to get choked up and my fear of being looked down on for being a grown man who cries *make it worse* and can make it impossible to stop even when the emotional charge isn't that powerful. This idea that it's "unnatural" for men to cry needs to go away.
Thank you for being brave enough to stand up to this. I have a 13 year old son who I'm trying to raise to know that it's ok to show other emotions besides anger, but I have a husband who can't stand the sight of a man crying...like Mike. The fact of the matter is that we all have a vast array of emotions and the idea that it's ok to show some but not others is ridiculous. And if crying over the possibility of losing one's children isn't worthy of crying over to Mike, then he's just been raised wrong. Period. If one loves their children they'll do anything for them, including cry in the face of losing access to them.
@@vanessamw1140 My father was a fantastic dad in all regards. But I only ever saw him cry once. It broke my heart to see it -- but mainly because what made it painful was how hard he was trying NOT to cry. It was at his father's funeral. And by cry, I mean, in rapid succession, a cough, followed by a snort followed by him getting up and leaving the room. Out of respect for his dignity, I didn't follow, but that hurt me then and now 35 years later hurts me just as much to think about. I love Mike, but we're miles apart on this. Hopefully your son will at least have the option not to choke it all back and die a little in the process. My hat's off to you for that. What's stronger -- someone who chokes it back out of fear or shame, or someone who knows that there's a time for all things, and this is that time?
He is an emotional man, kids can change a mans life. He seems authentic and harassed to the point of breakdown. She's a heartless woman. I believe him and his frustration with how the courts cater to women in child custody cases.He looks like he is having a full fledged panic attack. Sometimes looks like a heart attack.I truly feel for this father.
Did you catch the part where he says he was hospitalized from his 5th car accident, as if poor him being innocently hit 5 times. He’s a self centered menace, who thinks 5 car accidents means everyone else needs to drive more carefully. He turned on the fake tears right on schedule, but somehow sounded like an alpha male until he got to the part where he’s a fragile butterfly, then he can’t get it together again? Nonsense.
Everytime he starts crying she starts smiling. She looked too pleased when he was tearing up about her "talking it to the extreme." I think she has tortured him mentally and emotionally and is determed to make his worst fears - not seeing his kids - come true. He only cries about not getting to see his kids and he sucks it up - or tries to for everythibg else as quick as he can. I believe he loves them more than anyone else and has been trying to keep all this in as much as possible but seeing he smirk at him makes it hard. He does not come off as a narcissist but just totally in love with his babies and very protective of the very little time he gets with them. She did not offer make-up tine for funeral. She took him back to family court with this very hearing. I saw that first on Biggin's and then this one. He seemed angry and hurt in the 2nd video so I felt unsure. I totally believe him now after seeing this. There may have been dv but this lady is super manipulative and a feeks like very skilled liar. But she is too pleased - not scared, or sad or tired or bored or hurt or angry but pleased that he is so upset. Idk if you can get both clips to the one of the body language youtubers or not and see what they say. If he does not gave a genuine anxiety disorder he is a way better actor at a panic attack than anyobe else I gave seen. He was flushing and undid some buttons, had pain in his chest before he even did that from the way he was movibg his arms. His emotions seemed real genuine. Panic attacks happen to dudes too...even if they were not in the military.
Mr Boykin has one set of facts and it stays the same. Her story keeps growing and changing. Feeding the homeless, in a domestic violence shelter, it just keeps growing. She’s the nutter
I wonder if Judge Manning’s wife is a doctor herself. I mean, when they’re out socializing with her wife’s doctor friends and one of them says their spouse is a ‘lawyer’, like it’s a big deal, and Dr. Manning flexes back with “Oh, that’s nice. My wife is a JUDGE. LoL” but it’s all in good fun. I enjoy watching Judge Manning’s courtroom. She’s an absolute delight.
@@jdub4629I can imagine after having a day like we see parts of... Going home to not having to make any decisions is a huge relief 😊 I remember once being exhausted and stressed out and breaking down in tears because I couldn't cope with choosing what to have for dinner. If the way their home runs works for them and they're both happy then good for them
"I was helping the homeless when he started stalking me. I got scared, so I left and went to the orphanage I volunteer at. Your Honor, he showed up there too, so I left again, and went to church to help with our fundraiser that gets puppies for starving blind people....."
A Proverb I read, German I believe, was a mother to her daughter. She gave her daughter the best fesather pillow she owned. She told her daughter to cut a hole in the fabric and walk through the village until the pillow was empty. Then she directed her daughter to go back through the village and refill the pillow. I think that's a great mental picture of a lost reputation.
Men are not expected to cry openly, It is considered weak. So when we see a man crying openly, Everyone says he should man up and stop being so weak. This has to stop.
It's true! It does have to stop! I was so happy when my husband let it go and cried when we had our son! He had a glow on him just releasing those tears n not being told he's being weak or anything! Things have to change! Men have emotions to and they should be able to be comfortable letting out those tears! They don't need to think or be told they are weak for letting their emotions out!
I got a restraining order on my ex husband. There was no way in hell I could force a smile about anything in that situation. I was terrified. To see her smile in response to something he said shows me she’s probably lying. Just my opinion 🤷♀️
So if a man who was only getting to visit his children a few hours a week and then getting those visits taken away by a controlling mother who is so jealous of the relationship they have with him that she falsely accuses him of harming them is "being fake and playing the victim"? Men can't be emotional? Heartbroken? Love his children so much that it hurts when he can't see them?
Why did she not call him immediately about this arm issue, not just in court filing. And there is no medical claims of sprains or broken. I would have been on the phone to him, and text for back up evidence, confronting him. I am not sure what happened but does this man have a track record of abuse? All questions - I want to know about.
As far as him losing his shit, I can see it happening. Everything is coming out, he loves his kids and he can’t see them. I have an adult daughter and her mother never did this to me- but, I have a good friend who’s ex did this to him and he was an absolute mess. He was in so much pain that he was barely able to function. It was awful. I can see losing it like this. Everything so pent up. I don’t think he planned on it, these seem like raw emotions to me
I don't know...he got the most emotional when the judge said she was gonna find out and have their @$$ if they were lying/doing something wrong. The mom looked like she was ready for the investigation. He started to cry a whole lot more...grabbed his chest and said he needed air. That (at least to me) seemed like he was worried about really being dug into. Also when he was talking about the order of protection from Georgia (the one where he said she made everything up) toward the end he said "I'll never do that again, I have 10 years in jail hanging over me and i took the class the judge ordered" as if he had done something in the past and he wouldn't make that mistake again. He said it not long before the judge brought in the GAL.
You tell 'em, Judge! I cannot stand these parents that rip their kids apart and try to put them in the middle and make them choose between the two people they love more than anyone in the world. Just a shame they can't see how much harm it does to their children.
Replay crew! Hope y'all had a fantastic St Patrick's Day ☘️💚 Editing to add IMO- Mrs Crawford has issues and Mr Holtz seems scared and worried that she will succeed in keeping his children away from him. It pisses me off to see a father, who is trying to have a relationship with his kids, but the mother won't allow that to happen, because she is bitter, jealous or spiteful! 🤬
When you’re in the hospital because of your fifth car accident, either stop driving because you’re 150 years old, or stop driving because you suck at it and you’re going to murder someone.
You paid $50 YOU DIDN'T HAVE to take your daughter to a hospital SHE DIDN'T NEED TO GO TO to use your taxpayer-funded WELFARE HEALTH BENEFITS? Yea no wonder the doctors didn't see her, this is NOT an emergency. Please vote people in to office who are cutting welfare, these people are out of control wasting resources bc they can't get along
The “I was feeding the homeless “ lady was trying to get a TPO bc after the breakup, she had nowhere to live. She went to a DV shelter and they REQUIRE you to make a police report and do a TPO. Having worked with many DV victims, several shelters, police, etc…I’ve never agreed with this requirement to stay. I understand it bc otherwise, it would be full of homeless instead of DV victims. However, many women I worked with, beaten horribly and nowhere to go, were terrified to make a police report.
As far as the stalker case goes, I agree with you, Mike. She is lying. Her grinning when he was giving his testimony was too telling. I wish Judge Manning had seen her, I don’t think she did. I think she was looking down. I also don’t believe anyone that says some martyr statement about themselves before they start blasting the other person. She just should have said “I was flying around with the other angels feeding the homeless and visiting the childrens cancer hospital when Lo! There he was again! 😂
I think she gave 2 different versions of his "happy holidays" text message. The first time I thought she said God broke her truck because they were promised to each other, then the last time she said it was something about them being friends. I don't feel like rewinding it lol but that's what I recall
Happy st. Patty's day. I was horribly verbally abused by my ex husband it took a long time for me to get over most of it. I never cried about it i got very mad. I would have to see him I wouldn't speak to him but later I got all my anger out of me. That and medicationad it better.
I’ll use one of the best most important quotes in history on this one because it most definitely applies. “ When babies are used in the wars of men; God help us all”!!!!
The whole "Women must be believed" montra that came about with Me Too absolutely has brought about false accusations and revenge attacks on men. So many words such as bully, racists and certainly stalking have been so overused for the purpose of inflating circumstances that I honestly assume that this may be the case when people use them.
Omg that kid with the “fractured” arm, she brought her kid to the ER & made her sit there for hours instead of going to the pediatrician the next day. Even if mom isn’t verbally saying anything, this child got all that attention for saying her arm hurt which is why it’s probably still going on. I have seen those 2 before I believe in a CPS case 😳
That woman’s BIG, HAPPY smile should tell us all what we really need to know about the situation. I believe him when he said she’s trying to set him up to hurt him. She’s just big mad that he doesn’t want her anymore and she can’t stand it.
Hey Mike, this is not hate in your comments, just giving a perspective from been through it. I would have absolutely agreed with you 3 years ago. I both have fathomed a grown man, a father, being the victim, getting that emotional. That was me before having my children abducted from me. So I do understand how Akeen Holtz saying he's a victim and crying comes across losing credibility to anyone not put through having their life and joy taken away from them, however, once you hear stories from real dads in courses like "Managing Anger", "Respectful Man", and joining Mates Groups, your perspective completely changes. My 3 year old and 3 month old were abducted from me. I did not get to see them for 2 weeks before an expensive lawyer and emergency hearing and that pretty well destroyed me. In courses and groups with only men in them, including prison officers, other super tough types, there are men who can't afford lawyers and have not seen their kids for 2 years!!! Many of us are victims of spousal abuse. The law defaults 100% to the mother. I was the clucky one and we agreed I would be the stay at home dad. In her court documents she kept contradicting herself, proving every claim was false in other sections of her own affidavits. But it doesn't matter what the mother is a proven pathological liar, they get full custody by default and the father has to fight tooth and nail for every single minute of visitation rights. Victoria Crawford is cool and calm because that's what pathological liars are like. They can and do say anything against you without thought or regard for the truth and it always has some semblance of truth, just massively distorted. Eg: she references a photo being deleted but makes up a complete lie around that. Eg: she references her daughter flinching at the dad going to brush her hair and makes up a complete lie around that. Etc etc etc etc etc. That's what my ex did. So then like Akeen, we're not playing the victim, we are put in the massively difficult situation where to tell the truth, we don't just say none of that happened, we acknowledge the parts that are true but explain the situation honestly. Defending against a pathological liar, if you're giving them the benefit of doubt first, tends to make us sound like we're telling a story, is making excuses, us trying to explain away injuries. My ex had a friend studied in psychology and knowing exactly what to claim to get everything she wanted. She did not care that it was going to cost 100% of the kids' inheritance just so she could get all the control and keep the kids away from me. The reason? Because when the 3 month old would cry, she could not soothe her. She would always reach for daddy, and stop crying with me. I'm the one who would feed her and change her and put her to bed. That upset the now-ex and she refused to listen to her counsellor and seek help for anxiety and post partum depression but her friend convinced her she could make our baby bond with her if she cut me out by Stockholm Syndrome and get all my money. Nearly 3 years on and the more 5 year old and 3 year old still have just visitations with me, 6 days and 3 nights a fortnight but they still cry and try to run away from their mother when they're forced to return, and every time I pick them up they still run flat out into my arms jumping up for a huge hug. No matter the amount of control she forces, the hundreds of thousands of dollars the gold digger took from me, she can not force them to love her or buy their love. She's got a new car and living in a large place and buys them things all with my money while I'm left in a small apartment. This last week as a one off they had an opportunity to be with me or their mother during her scheduled time. We wanted to try having one of them sleep with me and one at hers alternating for a few days. As soon as the one staying at her place found out the other was getting to stay at mine, they were inconsolable, despite being explained they were going to swap next night, until she gave in and let them both stay with me, such that I had them on three of her nights consecutive to my two, and still the only way to get them to go back willingly to their mother's was by telling them she's taking them to a cousin's birthday party. The eldest started school in February. She controls everything. She made DV accusations and went and stayed in a women's shelter for months to use against me but my lawyer subpoenaed her psychologist's notes and it was proven she went against her psychologist's advice and did that to set it up to get default custody so I'd have to battle for every minute to see my kids. There are so many men who assault women including their babies mothers, women need protection and help. But, until I was in this situation, you could never imagine just how many women rort the system. There are obvious ones and there are pathological narcissistic liars and even when that's proven, it doesn't give the father primary or even equal custody, not even close!!!!!
The point about my kids wanting to be with me more and hating going back to their mother's is, I bet Akeen and Victoria's daughter is the same, and 90% of other situations where the mother by default gets 90% custody and 100% nights. If but for the fact I worked hard for decades and married in my 40s before having kids to afford lawyers, my kids wouldn't be getting time with their dad like all these other dads I met in courses. My now ex so much younger than me had no money of her own but hired barristers against me borrowing against my money that she expected to win purely on the basis that she's the biological mother. Its such a shame that I can not repeat what an ex-family judge in a $10,000 mediation day said to our solicitors about what he thought of her attitude towards our children.
If she is making this up then shame on her…so many dads don’t spend time with their kids and he appears to want to and she wants to block it…but what if it’s true?? The supervised visits, living in motel…what’s up with that?
That woman blaming the guy for stalking her and getting a three month order was lying through her teeth. Manning has heard so many of these she's losing it.
Mike: I don't like MAN TEARS!!!!!! 🤬🤬 To be fair, those kids need to see some human emotion because their mother is like a scary hollow robot from a sci-fi movie.
I watch these crazy people in court and I am often left with no clue what to really think, as I have not been around this craziness. I look to Mike to drop the truth bombs, because he has been living this. Lol
Is it possible that the shelter where Miss "feeds the homeless" stays requires its residents to have TPOs? Sounds like they had a fairly normal break-up. Nothing a good phone block wouldn't fix. But, if she claimed abuse to the shelter I could see the need for them to seek a legal remedy to keep him from coming around.
At least in parts of Michigan require a PPO or TPO it's standard practice on some areas. All the cases I've worked with, with LE it's automatic placed for the victim. This lady on here I think is suffering from mental health concerns
Awesome Mike...sorry, "Jameson" is starting to kick in, and pappy always told me "Never pass up an opportunity to keep your freakin mouth shut "!!!! Happy St. Paddy's Day!!!! Thank ya b rother!!
The comments about him showing "his emotions" causing him to "lose"credibility were in poor taste. Yeah, all men should just keep it balled up inside and eventually explode. Hasnt society seen enough of those results?
And his text sounded like he was responding to a text from her bitching about her truck. This man's sweet, she's crazy. That message sounds like a friendly supportive reply honestly.
The supposed injury and the description of the cause do not jive. At least, the descriptions of them are not compatible. If he caused a fracture by holding the wrist and twisting, a resulting fracture would be longitudinal, possibly a green stick fracture if enough force was applied. Even if a longitudinal fracture didn’t show on x-ray, there would be no doubt of the severity of the injury due to pain and any physical exam. Further, if there were a likely fracture, the girl would have immediately been referred to orthopedics-it would not have taken a second visit. Also, anybody notice there was no mention of pain management? 👀 When the orthopedic offered a cast or splint for two weeks (if my memory is correct that she said “two weeks), that was very likely an attempt to placate a very, very insistent parent. Outside of a very few cases, like a radial head fracture that barely even shows on x-ray, a cast would probably be worn 6-8 weeks. The floor would be 4 weeks, maybe. If she had a compartment injury or reflex sympathetic dystrophy syndrome, I might be able to believe that, but that seems less likely than a troubled, histrionic, lying mother. That’s just the way I see it, tho.
Pay attention to that Mom's face when the GAL for assigned - she was pissed that she wasn't just being believed. I think the father has a point to be so messed up, he's probably been getting screwed by the courts because he is automatically at fault and wrong in almost every court before he ever shows up when she makes any allegations.
Damn… the first only time you see a guy crying about a harpy screwing up her ex life, and you say he playin victim,that’s why… what a shame bro… ghoulish.
Who takes their kid to the ER, to wait around until 3am, over “my arm hurts”? Am I the worst mother in the world? I would have told my kids to rub some dirt on it.
Believe me when your ex is actively trying to keep your kids always you will cry. It’s the worst thing in the world. She has done this to me for 2 years now. My son was a little boy when she started all this BS now he is an angry teenager with a mother that won’t actively try to let me see my kids. She just says she isn’t gonna force them. Courts inthe north east are all heavily biased against men.
I was pissed at the judge for putting dude on a tether for traffic violations… UNTIL she mentioned DV. his attorneys face and mine were very similar 😂 why do these idiots think the court won’t find out? Good lord.
She is so lying I deal with these parents abusing the legal and Child Protection Agencies. These ppl need to be held accountable. I been to Court multilple times helping the alienated parent
After having been dragged through a similar hell he's been though, I believe every word he said. He is absolutely a victim of spousal abuse. This poor man
So Mike has voiced his opinion that a man getting emotional "destroys credibility" on several occasions. Mike has also stated that a man disclosing that they were emotionally traumatized or even had to get counseling for emtotional distress being "nonsensical" I'm not really sure what or where you get off. I have gotten pretty emotional when dealing with family court and even civil issues, because to the person going through them these can be taxing and emotional shit. I've also had to get counseling for PTSD due to combat in Iraq being more honest and available emotionally is pretty damn important for one's health in the long term and the idea that this somehow robs one of legitimacy in juris prudence is absurd. Thank God I wouldn't want someone like you representing me...
I'm gonna disagree with Mike on the man showing his emotion. He isn't wanting to show his emotion, it's spilling out due to the stress and fear of losing his kids, AGAIN, because of the harpy who is obviously lying about him. Not saying he's innocent, but his emotion is genuine and not for show.
That woman isn’t paying to support those kids either I would be willing to bet it’s we the taxpayers that are supporting those children. Both mom and dad are a drain on society.
"Why does he only see his kids 10 hours a week?" Because the system is incredibly good at fucking over fathers in every possible way imaginable at every opportunity, to the point where a whole lot of people see 1 full day of custody per week as a MASSIVE victory worth celebrating. Its fucking disgusting and infuriating and the number of people who are okay with it is abhorrent. This is one of the few issues where I will absolutely never see Mike's views as correct.
Let me understand. You will try and have him arrested for not paying child support, but will then pick him up from the jail because that's your child's father?
He’s got something wrong with his right side. He’s sitting funny, holding himself funny, grimacing, rubbing his arm, and at one point is rubbing his right side very gingerly.
We cruised with Royal Caribbean with our young teenaged daughters. We felt safe the whole time. If there was any lawlessness we never heard about it. People were almost universally good natured and kind. It was a great time. Would definitely do it again. But not on my own
As a former gymnast for 12 years, I've had my fair share of breaks, including hairline fractures, including 2 broken vertebrae. Orthos dont give you a choice between a splint and a cast. They tell you which they're giving you. And they wouldn't cast an arm for only 2 weeks, its usually a minimum of 4.
Actually they have done that for my sister in law. They weren't sure if it was broken on sister n law and told her "well we can cast it for a few weeks or give u a splint." she chose cast because she wanted sympathy. They'll do that for people who are crying in pain and claiming they think it's broke , just in case so they don't get sued or to shut them up (I think that was the case with sis I'm law)
It feels to me like they were trying to placate a child that kept complaining when nothing was wrong, with mom encouraging it all just to make dad look bad. If my kids tell me their arm hurts I don’t immediately take them to the hospital. Tell me how it feels in a day lol.
@@clarissa8477If my child showed serious pain just from her arm being touched…yes…we would go to urgent care or Er. Her father had previously been violent and was ordered to go to anger management.
If radial head fracture most common fracture both splint and caste are considered equivalent, the Ortho office gets paid more to cast, I’m a pediatrician and the newer decs are braces when able due to care issues. Now 2 weeks is pretty odd unless sprain.
I work in workers compensation. Doctors give that option to patients often.
I took a nap and failed to assemble! Oh man, I gotta get it together
I think the tears are genuine. I'd be tearing up too. When I get emotional like that, the fact that I'm starting to get choked up and my fear of being looked down on for being a grown man who cries *make it worse* and can make it impossible to stop even when the emotional charge isn't that powerful.
This idea that it's "unnatural" for men to cry needs to go away.
The Lord gave us all tears and emotions for a reason. Not a thing unmanly about tears or emotions. It’s what makes us all human.
Thank you for being brave enough to stand up to this. I have a 13 year old son who I'm trying to raise to know that it's ok to show other emotions besides anger, but I have a husband who can't stand the sight of a man crying...like Mike. The fact of the matter is that we all have a vast array of emotions and the idea that it's ok to show some but not others is ridiculous. And if crying over the possibility of losing one's children isn't worthy of crying over to Mike, then he's just been raised wrong. Period. If one loves their children they'll do anything for them, including cry in the face of losing access to them.
I completely agree. My dad is NOT a man that cries often but I know the thought of his children being kept from him would take him to his knees.
@@vanessamw1140 My father was a fantastic dad in all regards. But I only ever saw him cry once. It broke my heart to see it -- but mainly because what made it painful was how hard he was trying NOT to cry.
It was at his father's funeral. And by cry, I mean, in rapid succession, a cough, followed by a snort followed by him getting up and leaving the room. Out of respect for his dignity, I didn't follow, but that hurt me then and now 35 years later hurts me just as much to think about.
I love Mike, but we're miles apart on this. Hopefully your son will at least have the option not to choke it all back and die a little in the process. My hat's off to you for that.
What's stronger -- someone who chokes it back out of fear or shame, or someone who knows that there's a time for all things, and this is that time?
@@grayaj23 to not even allow one's self to cry at their parents funeral....that's brutal. I don't understand this mentality at all.
That she's saying " He can't prove it was me " Suspicious as can be
“Give your heart and soul to Jesus cus your rear end’s mine” I think that might be a new shirt Mike
He is an emotional man, kids can change a mans life. He seems authentic and harassed to the point of breakdown. She's a heartless woman. I believe him and his frustration with how the courts cater to women in child custody cases.He looks like he is having a full fledged panic attack. Sometimes looks like a heart attack.I truly feel for this father.
Did you catch the part where he says he was hospitalized from his 5th car accident, as if poor him being innocently hit 5 times. He’s a self centered menace, who thinks 5 car accidents means everyone else needs to drive more carefully.
He turned on the fake tears right on schedule, but somehow sounded like an alpha male until he got to the part where he’s a fragile butterfly, then he can’t get it together again? Nonsense.
@@ED-es2qv I respect your opinion, I just feel differently
@@Verwaiste_Mutter - agree with you 💯💯
Everytime he starts crying she starts smiling. She looked too pleased when he was tearing up about her "talking it to the extreme." I think she has tortured him mentally and emotionally and is determed to make his worst fears - not seeing his kids - come true.
He only cries about not getting to see his kids and he sucks it up - or tries to for everythibg else as quick as he can. I believe he loves them more than anyone else and has been trying to keep all this in as much as possible but seeing he smirk at him makes it hard.
He does not come off as a narcissist but just totally in love with his babies and very protective of the very little time he gets with them.
She did not offer make-up tine for funeral. She took him back to family court with this very hearing. I saw that first on Biggin's and then this one.
He seemed angry and hurt in the 2nd video so I felt unsure.
I totally believe him now after seeing this.
There may have been dv but this lady is super manipulative and a feeks like very skilled liar. But she is too pleased - not scared, or sad or tired or bored or hurt or angry but pleased that he is so upset.
Idk if you can get both clips to the one of the body language youtubers or not and see what they say.
If he does not gave a genuine anxiety disorder he is a way better actor at a panic attack than anyobe else I gave seen. He was flushing and undid some buttons, had pain in his chest before he even did that from the way he was movibg his arms. His emotions seemed real genuine. Panic attacks happen to dudes too...even if they were not in the military.
@GovilGirl I felt the same thing, I was watching her while he was speaking, even replayed a few times. 😢
I didn't believe her from the second she said "I was feeding the homeless"
Mr Boykin has one set of facts and it stays the same. Her story keeps growing and changing. Feeding the homeless, in a domestic violence shelter, it just keeps growing. She’s the nutter
"My wife's Asian, so we have plenty of M.D.s in the family" 😂 I love Judge Manning!
I wonder if Judge Manning’s wife is a doctor herself. I mean, when they’re out socializing with her wife’s doctor friends and one of them says their spouse is a ‘lawyer’, like it’s a big deal, and Dr. Manning flexes back with “Oh, that’s nice. My wife is a JUDGE. LoL” but it’s all in good fun.
I enjoy watching Judge Manning’s courtroom. She’s an absolute delight.
She once said she was not the boss at home, but she is the boss in the courtroom. Her wife must be awesome. 😂
@jdub4629 she has such a strong personality, I cant imagine someone else keeping her in line. Must be one hell of a woman 😂
@@jdub4629I can imagine after having a day like we see parts of... Going home to not having to make any decisions is a huge relief 😊 I remember once being exhausted and stressed out and breaking down in tears because I couldn't cope with choosing what to have for dinner. If the way their home runs works for them and they're both happy then good for them
"I was helping the homeless when he started stalking me. I got scared, so I left and went to the orphanage I volunteer at. Your Honor, he showed up there too, so I left again, and went to church to help with our fundraiser that gets puppies for starving blind people....."
A Proverb I read, German I believe, was a mother to her daughter. She gave her daughter the best fesather pillow she owned. She told her daughter to cut a hole in the fabric and walk through the village until the pillow was empty. Then she directed her daughter to go back through the village and refill the pillow. I think that's a great mental picture of a lost reputation.
Men are not expected to cry openly, It is considered weak. So when we see a man crying openly, Everyone says he should man up and stop being so weak. This has to stop.
But then they are criticized for not having a high enough “emotional IQ” or whatever garbage words are thrown around these days.
It's true! It does have to stop! I was so happy when my husband let it go and cried when we had our son! He had a glow on him just releasing those tears n not being told he's being weak or anything! Things have to change! Men have emotions to and they should be able to be comfortable letting out those tears! They don't need to think or be told they are weak for letting their emotions out!
I got a restraining order on my ex husband. There was no way in hell I could force a smile about anything in that situation. I was terrified. To see her smile in response to something he said shows me she’s probably lying. Just my opinion 🤷♀️
She might be tired of his bs crying, who really knows
Slàinte Mhaith, Mike and everybody. I hope you all have an excellent St. Paddy's Day, and weekend.
So if a man who was only getting to visit his children a few hours a week and then getting those visits taken away by a controlling mother who is so jealous of the relationship they have with him that she falsely accuses him of harming them is "being fake and playing the victim"? Men can't be emotional? Heartbroken? Love his children so much that it hurts when he can't see them?
If Mr If Mr Holtz has PTSD and Anxiety, it’s a horrible thing to live with. It is breathe taking.😢
Yep, her reaction when Judge Manning said she was jealous! That smile and comment! That's it.
Why did she not call him immediately about this arm issue, not just in court filing. And there is no medical claims of sprains or broken. I would have been on the phone to him, and text for back up evidence, confronting him. I am not sure what happened but does this man have a track record of abuse? All questions - I want to know about.
As far as him losing his shit, I can see it happening. Everything is coming out, he loves his kids and he can’t see them.
I have an adult daughter and her mother never did this to me- but, I have a good friend who’s ex did this to him and he was an absolute mess. He was in so much pain that he was barely able to function. It was awful. I can see losing it like this. Everything so pent up. I don’t think he planned on it, these seem like raw emotions to me
I firmly agree!
I don't know...he got the most emotional when the judge said she was gonna find out and have their @$$ if they were lying/doing something wrong. The mom looked like she was ready for the investigation. He started to cry a whole lot more...grabbed his chest and said he needed air. That (at least to me) seemed like he was worried about really being dug into. Also when he was talking about the order of protection from Georgia (the one where he said she made everything up) toward the end he said "I'll never do that again, I have 10 years in jail hanging over me and i took the class the judge ordered" as if he had done something in the past and he wouldn't make that mistake again. He said it not long before the judge brought in the GAL.
You tell 'em, Judge! I cannot stand these parents that rip their kids apart and try to put them in the middle and make them choose between the two people they love more than anyone in the world. Just a shame they can't see how much harm it does to their children.
Replay crew! Hope y'all had a fantastic St Patrick's Day ☘️💚
Editing to add
IMO- Mrs Crawford has issues and Mr Holtz seems scared and worried that she will succeed in keeping his children away from him. It pisses me off to see a father, who is trying to have a relationship with his kids, but the mother won't allow that to happen, because she is bitter, jealous or spiteful! 🤬
When you’re in the hospital because of your fifth car accident, either stop driving because you’re 150 years old, or stop driving because you suck at it and you’re going to murder someone.
She doesn't want him charged, she just wants his appendage
You paid $50 YOU DIDN'T HAVE to take your daughter to a hospital SHE DIDN'T NEED TO GO TO to use your taxpayer-funded WELFARE HEALTH BENEFITS? Yea no wonder the doctors didn't see her, this is NOT an emergency.
Please vote people in to office who are cutting welfare, these people are out of control wasting resources bc they can't get along
My FAVORITE LAWYER💚💚💚💚 Happy Saturday!!! Best part of my day🎉
The “I was feeding the homeless “ lady was trying to get a TPO bc after the breakup, she had nowhere to live. She went to a DV shelter and they REQUIRE you to make a police report and do a TPO.
Having worked with many DV victims, several shelters, police, etc…I’ve never agreed with this requirement to stay. I understand it bc otherwise, it would be full of homeless instead of DV victims.
However, many women I worked with, beaten horribly and nowhere to go, were terrified to make a police report.
As far as the stalker case goes, I agree with you, Mike. She is lying. Her grinning when he was giving his testimony was too telling. I wish Judge Manning had seen her, I don’t think she did. I think she was looking down. I also don’t believe anyone that says some martyr statement about themselves before they start blasting the other person. She just should have said “I was flying around with the other angels feeding the homeless and visiting the childrens cancer hospital when Lo! There he was again! 😂
She's lying
I think she gave 2 different versions of his "happy holidays" text message. The first time I thought she said God broke her truck because they were promised to each other, then the last time she said it was something about them being friends. I don't feel like rewinding it lol but that's what I recall
You are right! I noticed that too!!
As soon as she opened with “I was feeding the homeless” I thought everything else is going to be a lie.
From there it can only get worse 😅
I applaud this judge for staying on the job and listening to these type of cases all the time.
Gotta love how she makes sure to add that part about feeding the homeless 😂
Happy st. Patty's day. I was horribly verbally abused by my ex husband it took a long time for me to get over most of it. I never cried about it i got very mad. I would have to see him I wouldn't speak to him but later I got all my anger out of me. That and medicationad it better.
I agree 💯 about him crying. Isn’t this kinda sad thought . That we can’t see a man cry without thinking something is wrong with that person
It's not sad, just means you have emotional issues
I agree with you
Not when it’s genuine. This man was putting on a show…an Amber Heard can’t make tears show!
"Reputations are not for sale." 💯💯💯
I admire the judges for keeping up with all the zoom functions, etc. It is Saturday here....happy days from Thailand.
The gifted memberships in this live stream chat were amazing!
You are so loved Mike! ❤️👍
I’ll use one of the best most important quotes in history on this one because it most definitely applies. “ When babies are used in the wars of men; God help us all”!!!!
The whole "Women must be believed" montra that came about with Me Too absolutely has brought about false accusations and revenge attacks on men.
So many words such as bully, racists and certainly stalking have been so overused for the purpose of inflating circumstances that I honestly assume that this may be the case when people use them.
Omg that kid with the “fractured” arm, she brought her kid to the ER & made her sit there for hours instead of going to the pediatrician the next day. Even if mom isn’t verbally saying anything, this child got all that attention for saying her arm hurt which is why it’s probably still going on. I have seen those 2 before I believe in a CPS case 😳
That woman’s BIG, HAPPY smile should tell us all what we really need to know about the situation. I believe him when he said she’s trying to set him up to hurt him. She’s just big mad that he doesn’t want her anymore and she can’t stand it.
I miss the live but got gifted a membership! Thank you! Mike love your show, I find myself sometimes saying hello hello hello lol
Didn’t know that could happen.. I wanna membership
@@hannahe7556 if you go under join then click the three dots above you can click yes you accept gift membership.
I find myself saying it every intro.
@@sjones2195 no no I do it out in the world
@@malyssaseifert2013 😂
Shouldn't the second case have been a CPS issue? No one mentions whether CPS was notified.
From what I heard, the state had contacted the father regarding the incident.
Hey Mike, this is not hate in your comments, just giving a perspective from been through it.
I would have absolutely agreed with you 3 years ago. I both have fathomed a grown man, a father, being the victim, getting that emotional. That was me before having my children abducted from me.
So I do understand how Akeen Holtz saying he's a victim and crying comes across losing credibility to anyone not put through having their life and joy taken away from them, however, once you hear stories from real dads in courses like "Managing Anger", "Respectful Man", and joining Mates Groups, your perspective completely changes.
My 3 year old and 3 month old were abducted from me. I did not get to see them for 2 weeks before an expensive lawyer and emergency hearing and that pretty well destroyed me. In courses and groups with only men in them, including prison officers, other super tough types, there are men who can't afford lawyers and have not seen their kids for 2 years!!!
Many of us are victims of spousal abuse. The law defaults 100% to the mother. I was the clucky one and we agreed I would be the stay at home dad. In her court documents she kept contradicting herself, proving every claim was false in other sections of her own affidavits.
But it doesn't matter what the mother is a proven pathological liar, they get full custody by default and the father has to fight tooth and nail for every single minute of visitation rights.
Victoria Crawford is cool and calm because that's what pathological liars are like. They can and do say anything against you without thought or regard for the truth and it always has some semblance of truth, just massively distorted.
Eg: she references a photo being deleted but makes up a complete lie around that.
Eg: she references her daughter flinching at the dad going to brush her hair and makes up a complete lie around that.
Etc etc etc etc etc.
That's what my ex did.
So then like Akeen, we're not playing the victim, we are put in the massively difficult situation where to tell the truth, we don't just say none of that happened, we acknowledge the parts that are true but explain the situation honestly. Defending against a pathological liar, if you're giving them the benefit of doubt first, tends to make us sound like we're telling a story, is making excuses, us trying to explain away injuries.
My ex had a friend studied in psychology and knowing exactly what to claim to get everything she wanted. She did not care that it was going to cost 100% of the kids' inheritance just so she could get all the control and keep the kids away from me. The reason? Because when the 3 month old would cry, she could not soothe her. She would always reach for daddy, and stop crying with me. I'm the one who would feed her and change her and put her to bed. That upset the now-ex and she refused to listen to her counsellor and seek help for anxiety and post partum depression but her friend convinced her she could make our baby bond with her if she cut me out by Stockholm Syndrome and get all my money.
Nearly 3 years on and the more 5 year old and 3 year old still have just visitations with me, 6 days and 3 nights a fortnight but they still cry and try to run away from their mother when they're forced to return, and every time I pick them up they still run flat out into my arms jumping up for a huge hug.
No matter the amount of control she forces, the hundreds of thousands of dollars the gold digger took from me, she can not force them to love her or buy their love.
She's got a new car and living in a large place and buys them things all with my money while I'm left in a small apartment.
This last week as a one off they had an opportunity to be with me or their mother during her scheduled time. We wanted to try having one of them sleep with me and one at hers alternating for a few days.
As soon as the one staying at her place found out the other was getting to stay at mine, they were inconsolable, despite being explained they were going to swap next night, until she gave in and let them both stay with me, such that I had them on three of her nights consecutive to my two, and still the only way to get them to go back willingly to their mother's was by telling them she's taking them to a cousin's birthday party.
The eldest started school in February. She controls everything.
She made DV accusations and went and stayed in a women's shelter for months to use against me but my lawyer subpoenaed her psychologist's notes and it was proven she went against her psychologist's advice and did that to set it up to get default custody so I'd have to battle for every minute to see my kids.
There are so many men who assault women including their babies mothers, women need protection and help.
But, until I was in this situation, you could never imagine just how many women rort the system. There are obvious ones and there are pathological narcissistic liars and even when that's proven, it doesn't give the father primary or even equal custody, not even close!!!!!
The point about my kids wanting to be with me more and hating going back to their mother's is, I bet Akeen and Victoria's daughter is the same, and 90% of other situations where the mother by default gets 90% custody and 100% nights. If but for the fact I worked hard for decades and married in my 40s before having kids to afford lawyers, my kids wouldn't be getting time with their dad like all these other dads I met in courses.
My now ex so much younger than me had no money of her own but hired barristers against me borrowing against my money that she expected to win purely on the basis that she's the biological mother.
Its such a shame that I can not repeat what an ex-family judge in a $10,000 mediation day said to our solicitors about what he thought of her attitude towards our children.
If she is making this up then shame on her…so many dads don’t spend time with their kids and he appears to want to and she wants to block it…but what if it’s true?? The supervised visits, living in motel…what’s up with that?
No one gets away with any funny business in Judge Mannings court especially when there are kids involved! ❤
That woman blaming the guy for stalking her and getting a three month order was lying through her teeth. Manning has heard so many of these she's losing it.
Mike: I don't like MAN TEARS!!!!!! 🤬🤬
To be fair, those kids need to see some human emotion because their mother is like a scary hollow robot from a sci-fi movie.
I watch these crazy people in court and I am often left with no clue what to really think, as I have not been around this craziness. I look to Mike to drop the truth bombs, because he has been living this. Lol
Is it possible that the shelter where Miss "feeds the homeless" stays requires its residents to have TPOs?
Sounds like they had a fairly normal break-up. Nothing a good phone block wouldn't fix.
But, if she claimed abuse to the shelter I could see the need for them to seek a legal remedy to keep him from coming around.
That actually makes so much sense.. it wouldn't surprise me if the shelter doesn't at least push filing against the "abuser".
At least in parts of Michigan require a PPO or TPO it's standard practice on some areas. All the cases I've worked with, with LE it's automatic placed for the victim. This lady on here I think is suffering from mental health concerns
Mike needs an intervention, a good crying session 😂
Awesome Mike...sorry, "Jameson" is starting to kick in, and pappy always told me "Never pass up an opportunity to keep your freakin mouth shut "!!!! Happy St. Paddy's Day!!!! Thank ya b rother!!
I just found you and now I’m obsessed with your site!! The “Karen” cases are amazing!! 😂😂😂👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Well done!!
Me too !!!!
Victoria Crawford has no problem saying a cab is to expensive to take her child to the emergency room. This woman is lyiiiing through her teeth
If it's a real emergency money should definitely never ever matter or she could call the paramedics to come too 😩
The comments about him showing "his emotions" causing him to "lose"credibility were in poor taste. Yeah, all men should just keep it balled up inside and eventually explode. Hasnt society seen enough of those results?
Judge Middleton must be watching Judge Manning. "Stay out of my county!"
And his text sounded like he was responding to a text from her bitching about her truck. This man's sweet, she's crazy. That message sounds like a friendly supportive reply honestly.
I think he never hurt his daughter. Ever.
Ok, now I see what Akeem is here for... his own case 😶
The supposed injury and the description of the cause do not jive. At least, the descriptions of them are not compatible. If he caused a fracture by holding the wrist and twisting, a resulting fracture would be longitudinal, possibly a green stick fracture if enough force was applied. Even if a longitudinal fracture didn’t show on x-ray, there would be no doubt of the severity of the injury due to pain and any physical exam.
Further, if there were a likely fracture, the girl would have immediately been referred to orthopedics-it would not have taken a second visit.
Also, anybody notice there was no mention of pain management? 👀
When the orthopedic offered a cast or splint for two weeks (if my memory is correct that she said “two weeks), that was very likely an attempt to placate a very, very insistent parent. Outside of a very few cases, like a radial head fracture that barely even shows on x-ray, a cast would probably be worn 6-8 weeks. The floor would be 4 weeks, maybe.
If she had a compartment injury or reflex sympathetic dystrophy syndrome, I might be able to believe that, but that seems less likely than a troubled, histrionic, lying mother.
That’s just the way I see it, tho.
Judge Manning was created for cases like this one🙏🏼❤️
Pay attention to that Mom's face when the GAL for assigned - she was pissed that she wasn't just being believed. I think the father has a point to be so messed up, he's probably been getting screwed by the courts because he is automatically at fault and wrong in almost every court before he ever shows up when she makes any allegations.
A low grade “Greenstick” fracture is VERY hard to see and extremely easy to do to an 8yr old. JSYK
The first girl told on herself. When she said I pulled up to say hi .. why you saying hi to your stalker?
I love Judge Websters new glasses! I need some of those. I’d probably not look as cute as Judge Webster, tho’.
She does look cute! She is low key spicy, the best kind.
Damn… the first only time you see a guy crying about a harpy screwing up her ex life, and you say he playin victim,that’s why… what a shame bro… ghoulish.
I have one thing to say after all that -
I’m so relieved I’m not hurting Jacks feelings. 😜
I am Jack's complete lack of surprise😂
I ❤ Jack.
Daughter probably had Nurses elbow. It’s very painful.
In crying dad case, both seem fishy as a Long John Silver combo meal. Love the judge "If you lying, give heart & soul to Jesus...yo butt is mine"! 😅
Mike, do you think you have a big enough cup there? Or do we need a bigger one?😂😂😂😂😂😂
JC that one lawyer needs to smile and stop yawning . If my lawyer looked that bored during my hearing I'd give them a wakeup call
Calling your former love "Bruh" is indeed disrespectful. Grandma is right!
I think the child called her dad bruh. And grandma corrected her.
Shout out to Miss Amber Free for an amazing poke face! I don’t know how she does it. 😂
Who takes their kid to the ER, to wait around until 3am, over “my arm hurts”? Am I the worst mother in the world? I would have told my kids to rub some dirt on it.
Believe me when your ex is actively trying to keep your kids always you will cry. It’s the worst thing in the world. She has done this to me for 2 years now. My son was a little boy when she started all this BS now he is an angry teenager with a mother that won’t actively try to let me see my kids. She just says she isn’t gonna force them. Courts inthe north east are all heavily biased against men.
Yes, she would do anything to get her way!! She "LETS HIM SHE THE CHILDREN".... IT'S HIS RIGHT!!
More importantly, it's the the children's right to have a relationship with both parents
We need a follow up on this case with this child support! I’m sure there won’t be a resolution. But….thank you Mile.
14:50 Schroeder looks like a VERY UNHAPPY PERSON
Happy St. Patrick's Day, everyone. Candy from California.
I was pissed at the judge for putting dude on a tether for traffic violations… UNTIL she mentioned DV. his attorneys face and mine were very similar 😂 why do these idiots think the court won’t find out? Good lord.
Been Binging your videos for a few days now ❤
I'm a crier....noted, I shouldn't if I ever have to defend myself in court.
She is so lying I deal with these parents abusing the legal and Child Protection Agencies. These ppl need to be held accountable. I been to Court multilple times helping the alienated parent
This entire live was full of banger clips 😂😂
After having been dragged through a similar hell he's been though, I believe every word he said. He is absolutely a victim of spousal abuse. This poor man
Its so cute that he calls his daughter "chipmunk" 🥹
So Mike has voiced his opinion that a man getting emotional "destroys credibility" on several occasions. Mike has also stated that a man disclosing that they were emotionally traumatized or even had to get counseling for emtotional distress being "nonsensical" I'm not really sure what or where you get off. I have gotten pretty emotional when dealing with family court and even civil issues, because to the person going through them these can be taxing and emotional shit. I've also had to get counseling for PTSD due to combat in Iraq being more honest and available emotionally is pretty damn important for one's health in the long term and the idea that this somehow robs one of legitimacy in juris prudence is absurd. Thank God I wouldn't want someone like you representing me...
I'm gonna disagree with Mike on the man showing his emotion. He isn't wanting to show his emotion, it's spilling out due to the stress and fear of losing his kids, AGAIN, because of the harpy who is obviously lying about him. Not saying he's innocent, but his emotion is genuine and not for show.
That woman isn’t paying to support those kids either I would be willing to bet it’s we the taxpayers that are supporting those children. Both mom and dad are a drain on society.
Mike love your streams hope your St.Patricks day was good keep up the great work
Judge is trying yo tell him politely "youre stupid"
"Why does he only see his kids 10 hours a week?"
Because the system is incredibly good at fucking over fathers in every possible way imaginable at every opportunity, to the point where a whole lot of people see 1 full day of custody per week as a MASSIVE victory worth celebrating. Its fucking disgusting and infuriating and the number of people who are okay with it is abhorrent.
This is one of the few issues where I will absolutely never see Mike's views as correct.
That is what the Bible stated at Proverbs 22:1 "a good reputation is better than refined silver and gold"
''cocktail's won't drink themselves'' i don't drink but i can run to my cupboard and whip out a can of fruit cocktail.......... will that do?
Closure? What did the “investigative arm of the court” conclude?
I think Mike says "there's more" moreoften than he says "PREEEEtrial"
We love LTWM either way brother 🎉🎉🎉🎉😢😢😢😢😢
Let me understand. You will try and have him arrested for not paying child support, but will then pick him up from the jail because that's your child's father?
He’s got something wrong with his right side. He’s sitting funny, holding himself funny, grimacing, rubbing his arm, and at one point is rubbing his right side very gingerly.
We cruised with Royal Caribbean with our young teenaged daughters. We felt safe the whole time. If there was any lawlessness we never heard about it. People were almost universally good natured and kind. It was a great time. Would definitely do it again. But not on my own
I don’t think I’ll ever get used to everyone rushing to judgment on these cases
Absolutely! I don't understand either, sometimes it seems rather brutal.
Same. It's a little frustrating, because there are good clips, but there are also a lottt of quick judgements. It can get toxic...
Well that's why the real decisions are made in the courtroom and not on RUclips. Lighten up.
You mean the courts or in the comments?
The histrionics of the father was really over the top.