yo me and my friends who watch your content are curious but how much do you actually enjoy the main touhou series games (6,7,8,etc) and the spinoffs like 12.3 and 15.5?
Yeah, you don't want to rent the T-72 bounce house tank unless you can set it up near a large body of water to 'soften' the landing of the kid who jumps on the turret.
@@nikolaideianov5092 yea using the hide your tank under a fake tank it would require to make them know its fake so they think your actual tank force is somewhere else
I like the idea of covering a real tank with a cover to disguise it as a dummy tank where you know the enemy has high resolution reconnaissance available.
I found one info stating that an inflatable M1 Abrams cost about $3,300. I think the bigger problem is whether it's even legal for a civilian to own one.
My old man told me about a burglar alarm that was tripped at a GM dealer. As he and his partner were making their way through the building they saw someone in the dark and demanded he surrender. He didn't move. They warned him again, no response. That's when his partner fired and the guy was unfazed. Eventually they got the lights on and it was a cardboard cutout of Mr. Goodwrench
I remember seeing a few years ago an inflatable F-16 on craigslist. It was apparently army surplus, and was held by an Air National Guard depot. It was $15,000. Sadly, I did not have $15,000.
Great video, an area I have a lot of knowledge of for WWII, and you got it all spot on. I think we will see them carry on in use, with more sophisticated forms to produce the right heat signatures, and all the ancillaries to make it appear like there is a real unit where there is none.
I could easily see remote-controlled efforts further the “realism” of fake tanks, allowing them to move for relatively simple confusion at a cheap cost, with the biggest factor of faking them coming down to heat/exhaust.
“History repeats itself, first as a tragedy, second as a farce” Karl Marx "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” George Santayana Just gonna quote 2 both of whom made extremely good points in the past that still haunts the present.
And the most important quote "Those who don't learn form history are doomed to repeat it. Those who do are doomed to see it repeted by those who don't"
The use of Taghlib forces is one of the most effective methods of the Second World War, with which the Allies were able to defeat the Germans on the 2 fronts of North Africa and the D-Day battle. particle for direct object
The oldest recorded use of an attrappe in combat I know of is from the Ottoman wars. A Turkish troop approached a smaller fortress in Hungary, and surrounded it. They called upon the defenders to surrender, but they told them to piss off, because they saw the Turks had no cannons. It was a mistake to tell them so. The Turks stayed around for a few days, and kept complaining about their cannons being late. They expected the Hungarians to have spies among them. Also, when they saw messenger pigeons arriving at the fortress, they only shot blanks at them, pretending they couldn't hit any. They were indeed right, the enemy was soon aware of the nonexistent artillery approaching. Meanwhile, a small team secretly chopped down a few trees in the nearby forest, and built fake cannons. They waited for a perfect moonlit night, and then rolled them up to the fortress. They looked real, and the garrison surrendered immediately. By morning light they realized they were fooled, but it was too late.
In multiple of the gundam series they use inflatable destruction tools, from fake tanks, and balloon gundams all the way up to battle ships in a you now have five things to shoot at long range only one that I care about, good look sir, tactic.
Not if the goal is to make the enemy think it's a dummy tank. If they see the details of the tank and realize it's a fake, it'll give them a false sense of security. They won't waste ammo on it. By the time you reveal it's actually hiding a swarm of drones inside, it'll be too late.
I finished reading a book ("Secret Soldiers") about the U.S. 23rd Headquarters Special Troops, who used inflatable dummy tanks, artillery, and other stuff. It was pretty interesting, and the very next day a ConeOfArc video releases about inflatable dummy tanks. COINCIDENCE?! I THINK NOT! the tank god has blessed us
I've been following your channel for some time, but I don't speak English, and so sometimes I feel like I'm missing part of the explanations because of the quality of RUclips's automatic subtitles. So, could you dub your videos into Portuguese? It is very difficult to find quality content like yours in Portuguese on this subject.
I once saw a docu about a german dummy Airfield that was build in the netherlands and after they were done the british dropped one Bomb on it that was made out of wood.
My great grandpa wrote about a dummy tank he saw in Normandy. It looked like a massive sherman with two guns, and then it turned around revealing that it was a normal sherman with a giant metal plate welded on to the side.
With the expansion of technology i also wouldn't be surprised if they use them for added security while very crude they could be mounting cameras to those for artillery as well. Which would also help with the illusion that they are real
Use inflatable tanks often so the enemy knows you use them > then cover your real tanks with clearly fake inflatable covers > conduct all sorts of scooby-doo shenanigans
Hey Cone, would you consider doing a Fake Tank Friday on the tank Hayao Miyazaki designed, the AkuYaku? Not sure if fake tanks encompasses fictional ones.
One form of deception by the Soviets during WW2 was with the creation of the IS-2 tank. The IS-2 tank packed a significantly larger punch to its Medium Tank cousins the T-34/76 and 85 with its 122mm gun. Tiger Tanks feared the IS tanks because its capability to take them head on. This wasn't the case for the T-34. There are cases of Soviet Soldiers putting buckets on the end of their barrels to mimic the Muzzlebrake of the IS-2 tank. Making a T-34 appear to be a bigger threat from a distant observation. There are photos of T-34s with buckets on their barrels.
If had to deploy to UA right now I think a bunch of dummy tanks would be a great asset, for instance to leave at villages you pass to make the enemy think these positions are still strongly defended/lure in drones to waste ammunition. One of these together with some ammo boxes, clothing, branches etc. Left at the entrance to a basement could be a very convincing hideout. Artillery could waste many shells dialing in to hit the position too.
Even the modern inflatable dummies haven’t caught up to the different sight-lines & digital video eyes of overhead drones. Many seem to be designed to fool by creating the right horizon outline, like the inflatable Soviet/Russian types implausible deployed without camo or cages, while drones are more likely to be fooled by small details sat on the right overhead shape. As distorting recon intel, wasting drone attacks or luring them en masse to an area where they can be deactivated seems a productive goal, there certainly should be a peak of drone deceivers coming, as arial attacks can now come in the thousands directly from infantry regiments.
I think it’s going to become increasingly difficult to make fake tanks near the front as drone optics improve. Probably still useful far from the front for many years.
It might depend on conditions as well as just how good the fake actually looks. In a combat scenario where a drone operator has to worry about getting blasted by an EMI weapon or other more conventional weapons, I can definitely see how they might fire at a fake without taking the time to properly evaluate it. I can also see situations where jamming could put an upper limit on the effective camera resolution.
Well dummy tanks didnt exactly fooled the Germans in Operation Fortitude because they couldnt fly reconnaissance planes over England, most of the effort was double agents and fake radio traffic but there were other factors. As for "dummy" installations and vehicles ... I dont think they will ever get completely out of use, look at the US Army that have a M1 Abrams decoy that even mimics the M1 Abrams heat signature, they cost a fraction of a real M1 Abrams, a second generation ATGMs costs about $10,000 as the decoy costs about $3,300 (these are old numbers) so they are cost effective if you can make the enemy waste a weapon to destroy then. Dummy will have to get more complex to keep fooling but still be a fraction of the cost of the real thing but they alone cannot carry a large deception, just like Operation Fortitude they have to be part of a larger operation.
Dummy tanks were also used in the Ruso Ukrainian war as well. Or what are believed to be dumy tanks since the Ukrainian had put WWII German tanks from Museums to guard intersections.
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0:51 Poor Cone. LOL.
Am not into dolls , i'll pass on the plushie. thanks
What was the game called?
yo me and my friends who watch your content are curious but how much do you actually enjoy the main touhou series games (6,7,8,etc) and the spinoffs like 12.3 and 15.5?
@@MarkStillPlays I've actually never played any of them but I do like some of the character designs
Honestly a fake inflatable sherman would be the best holiday yard decoration
Christmas and/or Battle of the Bulge Themed .. boom
don't forget to install a couple of bikes and a potato cannon onboard for the most unrealistic experience...
@@CanadianB.O.W war theme for the holidays would be straight up cringe
Failing that, you can have a couple mannequins dressed in British and German uniforms playing soccer in between a pair of trenches.
😁
why@@manz7860
The BOLD implication that dummy tanks aren't innately marketable plushies 👀
Shilka and Abrams marketable plushies
@@gelo9197 The KV-2 plushies is where it's at, i've always wanted a miniature death fridge!
What a perfect way to celebrate fake tank friday than with intentional fake tanks.
I feel like there’s an untapped market of dummy blow up tanks as kids bounce houses.
especially in the s300 air defense variety, lol.
I'd tap
Yeah, you don't want to rent the T-72 bounce house tank unless you can set it up near a large body of water to 'soften' the landing of the kid who jumps on the turret.
I wonder if there's an inflatable cover for actual tanks making them look like they're fake tanks.
Considering the purpose behind such dummies this would make no sense. Also there's reason why the anti-air missile-catcher sheet has been introduced.
Wouldnt be surprised, would be a bit of a risk though
Wouldn't work out well. What is the enemy most likely to assume? "OH, that's just a fake tank, we are fine" or " oh shit, that's a tank, shoot it!"
That would need the enemy to know its fake witch they wont
@@nikolaideianov5092 yea using the hide your tank under a fake tank it would require to make them know its fake so they think your actual tank force is somewhere else
Man I need a dummy tank. Imagine using it like a giant pool floatie
I like the idea of covering a real tank with a cover to disguise it as a dummy tank where you know the enemy has high resolution reconnaissance available.
Most "unreal" episode yet!
"All warfare is based on deception."
- Sun Tzu, The Art of War
I found one info stating that an inflatable M1 Abrams cost about $3,300.
I think the bigger problem is whether it's even legal for a civilian to own one.
My old man told me about a burglar alarm that was tripped at a GM dealer. As he and his partner were making their way through the building they saw someone in the dark and demanded he surrender. He didn't move. They warned him again, no response. That's when his partner fired and the guy was unfazed. Eventually they got the lights on and it was a cardboard cutout of Mr. Goodwrench
Actually funny story: aliexpress has sellers of dummy tanks and other vehicles, they cán go up to 20k of a t-70 or t-80 based vehicle
It's funny how the tank was a deception in itself back in 1916😂
"Don't mind me, just bringing water to the soldier on the front lines."
"AH HA! I've tricked you, now eat lead!"
I remember seeing a few years ago an inflatable F-16 on craigslist. It was apparently army surplus, and was held by an Air National Guard depot. It was $15,000. Sadly, I did not have $15,000.
Very unfortunate, but some luck bastard will be able to make a F-16 bouncy castle
@@anidiot2284 Very true.
Always a good day to see a new Cone of Arc video
Great video, an area I have a lot of knowledge of for WWII, and you got it all spot on. I think we will see them carry on in use, with more sophisticated forms to produce the right heat signatures, and all the ancillaries to make it appear like there is a real unit where there is none.
Some of those decoy tanks can be quite sophisticated with sound generation and heat generation so they appear on thermal imaging.
I could easily see remote-controlled efforts further the “realism” of fake tanks, allowing them to move for relatively simple confusion at a cheap cost, with the biggest factor of faking them coming down to heat/exhaust.
"weaponry not included" 😂
You made me search for inflatable tanks to buy and found an inflatable floater tank for pool and I love it
“History repeats itself, first as a tragedy, second as a farce” Karl Marx
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.” George Santayana
Just gonna quote 2 both of whom made extremely good points in the past that still haunts the present.
And the most important quote "Those who don't learn form history are doomed to repeat it. Those who do are doomed to see it repeted by those who don't"
The use of Taghlib forces is one of the most effective methods of the Second World War, with which the Allies were able to defeat the Germans on the 2 fronts of North Africa and the D-Day battle. particle for direct object
i remember a story that the FBI was called in when a movie T-72 for Red Dawn (the first one) was seen driving down the road on a flatbed semi.
Didn't expect quite a literal fake tank friday
The oldest recorded use of an attrappe in combat I know of is from the Ottoman wars. A Turkish troop approached a smaller fortress in Hungary, and surrounded it. They called upon the defenders to surrender, but they told them to piss off, because they saw the Turks had no cannons. It was a mistake to tell them so. The Turks stayed around for a few days, and kept complaining about their cannons being late. They expected the Hungarians to have spies among them. Also, when they saw messenger pigeons arriving at the fortress, they only shot blanks at them, pretending they couldn't hit any. They were indeed right, the enemy was soon aware of the nonexistent artillery approaching. Meanwhile, a small team secretly chopped down a few trees in the nearby forest, and built fake cannons. They waited for a perfect moonlit night, and then rolled them up to the fortress. They looked real, and the garrison surrendered immediately. By morning light they realized they were fooled, but it was too late.
In multiple of the gundam series they use inflatable destruction tools, from fake tanks, and balloon gundams all the way up to battle ships in a you now have five things to shoot at long range only one that I care about, good look sir, tactic.
Particularly with the visual effects of Minovsky particle scattering.
Glad RUSE got mentioned. Fantastic game.
Cone Fmu: no dont turn me into marketable plushie
With modern day cameras, you'd have to make some really convincing dummies.
Not if the goal is to make the enemy think it's a dummy tank. If they see the details of the tank and realize it's a fake, it'll give them a false sense of security. They won't waste ammo on it. By the time you reveal it's actually hiding a swarm of drones inside, it'll be too late.
@@MiguelDLewis huh, didnt think of it like that.
When i made the comment my train of thought was along the line of how they used dummies on d-day
@@redlock1815 Yeah the guys in Ukraine are coming up with all types of different uses for dummy tanks. They've even got dummy artillery.
I find the inflatable examples interesting . You should write a book on fake tanks.
There were dummy ships too, from fake landing craft all the way to old battleships disguised as newer ones.
Ooh, was that a Ram OP in the section about "disguising specialist vehicles so they don't get shot?"
I finished reading a book ("Secret Soldiers") about the U.S. 23rd Headquarters Special Troops, who used inflatable dummy tanks, artillery, and other stuff. It was pretty interesting, and the very next day a ConeOfArc video releases about inflatable dummy tanks. COINCIDENCE?! I THINK NOT! the tank god has blessed us
Cone should just design a tank at this point.
What do you think the Fumo is funding? 😉
@@ConeOfArca real tank.
6:44 that looks impressive. Improvised with whatever they had at hand I guess, but wow :o
I've been following your channel for some time, but I don't speak English, and so sometimes I feel like I'm missing part of the explanations because of the quality of RUclips's automatic subtitles. So, could you dub your videos into Portuguese? It is very difficult to find quality content like yours in Portuguese on this subject.
I once saw a docu about a german dummy Airfield that was build in the netherlands and after they were done the british dropped one Bomb on it that was made out of wood.
I love this story so much
Think I heard about it in a drachinafal vid
My great grandpa wrote about a dummy tank he saw in Normandy. It looked like a massive sherman with two guns, and then it turned around revealing that it was a normal sherman with a giant metal plate welded on to the side.
With the expansion of technology i also wouldn't be surprised if they use them for added security while very crude they could be mounting cameras to those for artillery as well. Which would also help with the illusion that they are real
What about Abrams with MTLB inside
Bruh that image with a gun and plush gonna be a template for memes
I hope for an episode on War Front's fake tanks (pictures in its Wikia).
Glad you mentiont the game R.U.S.E. Unfortunatly it is extremly rare seing it on pupular channels...
Similar in such games like "Rise Of Nations" where people would spam Anti Air vehicles to confuse their enemy into believing they were tanks.
Never tried that 🤔
not the game you're talking about but I do that in hoi4 sometimes. AA vehicles provide hardness and has reasonable combat stats.
Use inflatable tanks often so the enemy knows you use them > then cover your real tanks with clearly fake inflatable covers > conduct all sorts of scooby-doo shenanigans
I just realised that your pfp is an FCM 36 turret :D
Hey Cone, would you consider doing a Fake Tank Friday on the tank Hayao Miyazaki designed, the AkuYaku? Not sure if fake tanks encompasses fictional ones.
We have one dummytank in our city it was a part of pre-ww2 fort. Line
I love the game R.U.S.E. I still play it to this day.
Would it be possible launch such inflatable tank on a lake and use it as a stylish recreational pontoon?
I remember in RUSE where i can deploy dummy assaults to divert enemy forces. Not that effective but still fun
can we have an episode on the ARL 44? I don't see a lot of people talk about it
One form of deception by the Soviets during WW2 was with the creation of the IS-2 tank. The IS-2 tank packed a significantly larger punch to its Medium Tank cousins the T-34/76 and 85 with its 122mm gun. Tiger Tanks feared the IS tanks because its capability to take them head on. This wasn't the case for the T-34. There are cases of Soviet Soldiers putting buckets on the end of their barrels to mimic the Muzzlebrake of the IS-2 tank. Making a T-34 appear to be a bigger threat from a distant observation. There are photos of T-34s with buckets on their barrels.
I'll have to keep that in mind for a future video or short
2:03 ICANT flaccid tank 😔
2:15 RUSE Was a awesome game they need to remaster it and bring it back to Pc and Console cuz u can’t even buy it online anymore
can you make a fake tank friday video about the Rheinmetall Skorpion featured in World Of Tanks?
Let me know if you get a price on that inflatable Shilka, could definitely use one to spook the cropduster that insists on buzzing my house every week
If we write "T-34" on thr turrwt they wont notice
I think it would work along with using fake radio chatter and dummy radar I couldn't imagine how anyone would think it wasn't real
Cover VKs in WoT: VK 36.01, VK72.01, VK45.02, VK45.02 B
2:19
Ruseee
I thought everyone forgot this game already
Ever since it got removed feomt steam..
Can you please make a video about a T-34 hull including a T-62A turret
Thanks for great video
The intro
Hearing game studio and police i already knew its ghost
That one-man swat entry pod counts as a fake tank
If had to deploy to UA right now I think a bunch of dummy tanks would be a great asset, for instance to leave at villages you pass to make the enemy think these positions are still strongly defended/lure in drones to waste ammunition.
One of these together with some ammo boxes, clothing, branches etc. Left at the entrance to a basement could be a very convincing hideout. Artillery could waste many shells dialing in to hit the position too.
All I see are paintball field props :D
Even the modern inflatable dummies haven’t caught up to the different sight-lines & digital video eyes of overhead drones. Many seem to be designed to fool by creating the right horizon outline, like the inflatable Soviet/Russian types implausible deployed without camo or cages, while drones are more likely to be fooled by small details sat on the right overhead shape. As distorting recon intel, wasting drone attacks or luring them en masse to an area where they can be deactivated seems a productive goal, there certainly should be a peak of drone deceivers coming, as arial attacks can now come in the thousands directly from infantry regiments.
Re. 2D fake Challenger Tank . If I saw that I'd run away
Just got the fumo now to add to my orginal one from you
Them: "Well Hamas says..."
Me, Interrupting: "They are lying"
Them: "Well how do you know?"
Me: "Their mouths were moving."
A Belarusian company makes a dummy T-72 called the IMT-72, it’s a fold out dummy built on a trailer.
“Inflatable sherman”
Me: *war thunder april fools ptsd*
There's actaully some dumb sprays in TF2 I got fool accouple of times I thought I was shooting a sniper but it was just a spray on the wall
Everone talking about "dummy tanks", and here i am still waiting for SMARTY TANKS. The world is dead set on disappointing me, i swear.
That truck is an ex British Army Foden drop mid 1980s
I think it’s going to become increasingly difficult to make fake tanks near the front as drone optics improve. Probably still useful far from the front for many years.
It might depend on conditions as well as just how good the fake actually looks. In a combat scenario where a drone operator has to worry about getting blasted by an EMI weapon or other more conventional weapons, I can definitely see how they might fire at a fake without taking the time to properly evaluate it. I can also see situations where jamming could put an upper limit on the effective camera resolution.
Now, what if someone made a dummy tank-looking beast of a combat weapon?
Gama's made a fake tank so good that even they believed it was real!
I wonder if any of those inflatable shermans survived.
Read "Dummy Tanks" and started to think of all the tanks with large rear ends...
I have made cursed tanks using random tank parts such as "bighead"
Ironically, " whatever you had lying around" was also pretty much what real World War 1 tanks were built from.
Fumi merch looks cute and great
The cheapest dummy tank you can buy is a t90 inflatable for USD 1,950
Well dummy tanks didnt exactly fooled the Germans in Operation Fortitude because they couldnt fly reconnaissance planes over England, most of the effort was double agents and fake radio traffic but there were other factors.
As for "dummy" installations and vehicles ... I dont think they will ever get completely out of use, look at the US Army that have a M1 Abrams decoy that even mimics the M1 Abrams heat signature, they cost a fraction of a real M1 Abrams, a second generation ATGMs costs about $10,000 as the decoy costs about $3,300 (these are old numbers) so they are cost effective if you can make the enemy waste a weapon to destroy then.
Dummy will have to get more complex to keep fooling but still be a fraction of the cost of the real thing but they alone cannot carry a large deception, just like Operation Fortitude they have to be part of a larger operation.
RUSE MENTIONED!! VIDEO LIKED!!
Do you still play war thunder ? Would be nice seeing you play tanks from your cursed by design series
I think the Hamas one was to make it look like they stole a merkeva
That's what I thought at first but all the articles were saying they claimed it was their own tank they built
@@ConeOfArc huh, really? Maybe you could do a side by side comparison video with it and an actual merkeva?
Cone Fumo IS SOOOO ADORABLE 🥰 AND CUTE 🥰
6:42 Japan carving a tank out of rocks is so Japanese
I remember WarThunder having an April fools event with inflatable Sherman tanks that shot carrots
They could make a real tank looked like a dummy tank to fool the enemy not to aware of it
introduce cone fumo to the 12 gauge
Our favorite Chinese marketplace has them for about 2-3000 USD
Not cheap, not overly expensive.
Ghost being ghost again
Sadly, no one in my family had anything to do with operation Bertram. Must have been the British Bertrams...
Dummy tanks were also used in the Ruso Ukrainian war as well. Or what are believed to be dumy tanks since the Ukrainian had put WWII German tanks from Museums to guard intersections.
I need one