It is even more plausible considering... 1. Luke is younger, lighter, and probably a lot more fit than Jamie. 2. He may have had a lot of experience with grapplers around Beggar's Canyon. 3. Luke received a good luck kiss. 4. Both Luke and Leia are Force Sensitive. 5. It was a life threatening situation (or so the Stormtroopers were ordered to make them believe).
Yeah your first point is probably the most important. Both Mark Hammill & Carrie Fisher were really small when filming the movie. Jamie might genuinely be close to their combined weight at the time. this test really needs to be done with a 17-18 year old athlete like a high school wrestler from a lower weight class and a small cheerleader who can hold on without assistance. Then the Luke stand in could probably support quite a bit of their weight through their arms reducing the strain on the waist harness.
It's in the Making-of It was physically done. Luke's harness made an awful noise, they did the swing once, and they then realized the harness had broken 😂 Good thing he made it
Why do they assume the stormtrooper armour doesn't have a full harness built into it? Why give your soldiers a grappling hook without the proper equipment to go with it?
I thought that too, but at this point in the movie they had changed back into their regular clothes and only kept the stormtrooper belts on. For some reason they didn't include any footage from the movie as reference
Idk why the empire would have a grappling hook but not a harness on their utility belts, but at this point in the movie, Luke was wearing just this belt and swung using it alone.
Luke's METAL belt was probably twist and flex resistant, just from looking at it. Also stronger and lighter. So it would not have rode up the ribs like that safety belt. Also, when you have a belt taking the load there is not nearly as much stress on the arm holding the rope, so it is not only ' plausible ' but ' highly likely '.😮
I knew the swing was possible because they did it in real life on the movie set. The set was pretty much how they set it up here. What they didnt test is if the grappling hook works swinging across.
It's always astounding to me that even with discovery's size and Adam's connections to Lucasfilm they couldn't even show a STILL from the movie as reference, let alone a clip. Maybe I'm was in the original, but that even makes it more crazy and Discovery bowed to Google and took it out
What has always been bothering me and it’s most likely due to the camera angle in the movie is that the one side is one level/floor higher than the other.
Sophia: "Jamie, can I be your Princess Leia?" Jamie: "Sure. Where'd you put the metal bikini?" Of course it's plausible for Luke to hit it on the first throw. He wouldn't have that grappling hook on his belt for no reason. It's not just for decoration and it wouldn't be his first rodeo. He probably played and practiced with it since he was knee-high to a womp rat. And where did they get that 5'6" height for stormtroopers? Mark Hamill was "a little short" and he's 5'9". As for the weight, they're in a galaxy far, far away. Nobody said everything weighs the same there as it does in the Milky Way. Or is the same size. For all we know, the humanoids there could actually be about the same size (and weight) as a 12" GI Joe action figure. Next up: have Han Savage flee an entire squad of stormtroopers armed with paintball "blasters" and see if all of them will miss with a hundred shots. Plausible? Let's find out!
Hey, Discovery, here’s an idea, put the old stuff on YT rather than on your streaming service, I’ll bet $5 you’d make more here than in subscriptions there. Not to mention Adam is big on YT so there’s opportunities to cross market. I’ll apply for the CEO spot.
Can't believe it didn't appear the actress was in a harness. With all the things "insurance" supposedly wouldn't let the Adam and Jamie do over the course of the show, it's hard to believe they let someone swing across that distance with no safety harness.
There's one thing they didn't account for (and can't really replicate) and that's the twins connection to "The Force" which could help matters without them really realizing.
And the kiss - for luck - I mean, there's two twins with a Jedi father, both loaded with mitochlorians, and they kiss, well clearly it's like "super powers, activate". I think Luke had the same chances here as hitting that vent port. That is, none, except he's a golden boy.
Passive connection to the force can give them better reflexes or an easier time making the grapple hook shot. It doesn't do anything for the broken ribs which would require Luke intentionally using the force to make his body more durable (Episode 4 Luke had no training). However, Lukes is much younger than Jamie and weighs less than him which makes it more plausible for him to do the swing without serious injury.
The thing that has always bothered me about this simulation is that in the movie, Leia has her right arm and the front of her torso wrapped around the front of Luke's waist with her left arm draped over his left shoulder from the rear and her knees pressed against his back. They didn't swing side-by-side.
As someone who saw the original cut of Star Wars in the theatres before wide release and re-editing, I always thought that they should have left in Luke's first attempt (which missed). I know it tightens the sequence up timing wise to just make it in one attempt, but it's more realistic that he missed the first time. EDIT: since it wasn't clear, I saw Star Wars in May 1977 in Orlando, Florida when my family was on vacation. It didn't get wide release until late June back home. The May 1977 version I saw had the extra scenes of Luke watching the battle, missing with his first attempt to connect the grapple hook, and the Death Star was NOT about to fire on the Rebel base (that was done in re-editing for the wide release), among other differences!
This guy is suffering from misremembering. Carrie Fisher herself said the jump was done in one take, because herself and Mark Hamill were so nervous the first time, and after that they were excited to do it again, but George had got the shot, so no more jumps, a bummer Carrie said.
@@Mariojinn2 since you don't know me you can't possibly know whether I'm misremembering or not, no offense. I didn't say anything about the swing across the chasm, only that the grapple didn't successfully connect the first time, and Luke needed to try again. I apologize if my original comment made it unclear (upon re-reading I can easily see where someone would get the wrong impression of what I was trying to say); I was talking specifically about the grapple hook.
With the way the swing can go wild, it's really cute they thought that narrow line of pads was sufficient to prevent/reduce injury in a catastrophic failure.
Yeah I was thinking that too! I was wondering why they didn’t cover a wider area. And from that height I would expect something thicker, possibly with air.
Yeah, I was waiting for the giant airbag you see when a stunt person falls from a building to be inflated and brought in, so Jamie would have just been swinging JUST above it even when doing the final swing from the raised set pieces!
Exactly what I was thinking. They should at least have had some padding beside incase they fall off after hitting the thick pad. Glad that it worked out okay, though.
I am totally sure they a) exchanged the hook for something actually safe and b) had Leia safely connected to Jamie. Those people know what they're doing.
First, Luke has the Force. He's not proficient in using it yet, but he's been doing things with it since he was born, without knowing it was the Force. Second, what is gravity like in that chasm? The Death Star isn't the size of a full planet. And it's designed really dumb. It's not like an onion; levels are mostly flat across it. Each floor has to be generating artificial gravity, but only upward. Since there's no walkway, there's less than normal gravity. There may be more natural gravity coming from above than below, for all we know, since we don't know what level they're at.
Luke was younger, and in much better shape. It means he was lighter and stronger. Safety harnesses in real life are not always going between the legs. Simple one are just like this belt, just wider.
The scene was a Hollyweird cheat - as were many similar scenes of the old serials that inspired the movie. Both Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher were in full harnesses while clipped to each other and the cable. Granted, there were plenty of performers that did not always think safety in the movies. Harold Lloyd blew the thumb and index finger off of his right hand with what he thought was a prop bomb that he played with between scenes.
Im surprised no one ever mythbusted batman. His grappling hook would have to shoot faster than his fall rate and catch on something able to support his weight 😂
Mark and Carrie did the swing practically in one attempt. You can watch the BTS it in the Empire of Dreams documentary. This entire video was a waste of time.
Luke lived alone in the desert with his aunt and uncle until he was like, 17-18... he had an iron grip
just no.
On a farm no less
@@bj.bruner Vapor farm - no animals, just bots. 😁He probably collected some of his own tears.
How does that follow
@@ssgtmole8610 Farming is as much mechanics as it is animals; in Luke's case all mechanics, but I digress lol
It is even more plausible considering...
1. Luke is younger, lighter, and probably a lot more fit than Jamie.
2. He may have had a lot of experience with grapplers around Beggar's Canyon.
3. Luke received a good luck kiss.
4. Both Luke and Leia are Force Sensitive.
5. It was a life threatening situation (or so the Stormtroopers were ordered to make them believe).
And the actual swing took place 30' above the stage floor.
Stormtroopers' shooting is no threat.
Yea, Luke wasn't worried about breaking a hip like this out of shape old man is.
Yeah your first point is probably the most important. Both Mark Hammill & Carrie Fisher were really small when filming the movie. Jamie might genuinely be close to their combined weight at the time. this test really needs to be done with a 17-18 year old athlete like a high school wrestler from a lower weight class and a small cheerleader who can hold on without assistance. Then the Luke stand in could probably support quite a bit of their weight through their arms reducing the strain on the waist harness.
Also, Luke and Leia weren't on Earth. They may have been dealing with less gravity.
Wait. Where's the kiss for luck part? That's crucial!!
Jamie needs to shave first but he cant afford it
Some ladies like facial (etc) hair, some don't. All they is to it.
I figured they would make it since they did do the scene practically in the movie
They actually swung, and only once
I mean, they could have asked how George did this scene in 1976. Great stuff!
It's in the Making-of
It was physically done. Luke's harness made an awful noise, they did the swing once, and they then realized the harness had broken 😂
Good thing he made it
I think it’s really interesting. The Jamie outfit looks like a mix of Luke Skywalker and current day Mark Hamill.
I had never seen that episode. Well done. Luke wasn't as heavy, so that may have helped also.
The actress made a very good Princess Leia.
I love Jamie's sense of humor.
All this was missing was a Wilhelm scream 😱
Why do they assume the stormtrooper armour doesn't have a full harness built into it? Why give your soldiers a grappling hook without the proper equipment to go with it?
I thought that too, but at this point in the movie they had changed back into their regular clothes and only kept the stormtrooper belts on. For some reason they didn't include any footage from the movie as reference
Idk why the empire would have a grappling hook but not a harness on their utility belts, but at this point in the movie, Luke was wearing just this belt and swung using it alone.
I don't know how this is a myth. I saw it with my own two eyes! It definitely happened.
Jammie as Luke in next movie Plausable
I'm sure those are legion 501. So much fun.
Luke's METAL belt was probably twist and flex resistant, just from looking at it. Also stronger and lighter. So it would not have rode up the ribs like that safety belt. Also, when you have a belt taking the load there is not nearly as much stress on the arm holding the rope, so it is not only ' plausible ' but ' highly likely '.😮
I knew the swing was possible because they did it in real life on the movie set. The set was pretty much how they set it up here. What they didnt test is if the grappling hook works swinging across.
WHERE'S THE GOOD LUCK KISS???
It's always astounding to me that even with discovery's size and Adam's connections to Lucasfilm they couldn't even show a STILL from the movie as reference, let alone a clip. Maybe I'm was in the original, but that even makes it more crazy and Discovery bowed to Google and took it out
i think its more due to mythbuster never showing clips or stills from the source movie, etc
I remember watching this episode on 📺.
What has always been bothering me and it’s most likely due to the camera angle in the movie is that the one side is one level/floor higher than the other.
Sophia: "Jamie, can I be your Princess Leia?"
Jamie: "Sure. Where'd you put the metal bikini?"
Of course it's plausible for Luke to hit it on the first throw. He wouldn't have that grappling hook on his belt for no reason. It's not just for decoration and it wouldn't be his first rodeo. He probably played and practiced with it since he was knee-high to a womp rat. And where did they get that 5'6" height for stormtroopers? Mark Hamill was "a little short" and he's 5'9". As for the weight, they're in a galaxy far, far away. Nobody said everything weighs the same there as it does in the Milky Way. Or is the same size. For all we know, the humanoids there could actually be about the same size (and weight) as a 12" GI Joe action figure.
Next up: have Han Savage flee an entire squad of stormtroopers armed with paintball "blasters" and see if all of them will miss with a hundred shots. Plausible? Let's find out!
Something makes me think Jamie is a tad heavier than Mark Hamill/Luke was, which would have changed the comfort nature.
I wonder, if the belt had been fastened to the pants, preferably jeans, if that wouldn't have been almost as good as a proper security harness?
Episode 4 Leia with Episode 8 Luke 😂
I would say that his Leia looked pretty good. 😄
He should have shouted the Tarzan call.😂
I always thought it was a one hand swing with the belt not really doing much for support.
Just like in the real star wars, the blaster shots never hit.
Shame to deconstruct one of the greatest scenes in cinema... but... I'm kinda glad it was plausible!
Death Star gravity is unknown and may be inconsistent with the battle station.
The gravity on the death star is unlikely to be the same as earth.
Obviously there were more supports under Luke’s clothes.
They never showed that the grappling hook they actually threw would hold two people. Probably not based on what I see.
Oh course it's plausible... they actually did it in the movie!
Hey wheres the good luck kiss, totally left Jaime hanging
Funniest MB segment ever
Hey, Discovery, here’s an idea, put the old stuff on YT rather than on your streaming service, I’ll bet $5 you’d make more here than in subscriptions there. Not to mention Adam is big on YT so there’s opportunities to cross market.
I’ll apply for the CEO spot.
Banijay Science has uploaded the full episodes of Mythbusters on YT.
yeah but Luke had the force lol
Should've gotten a cowboy
It's clear that she was hooked as well. Why? And why didn't you show this?
This is a science fiction movie meant for entertainment purposes only. Not to be taken seriously.
hold up. What is Adam Savage's actual height? Sometime's he's listed as 6'1" and here he's 5'11" ? A small difference, but odd
Here's a myth, a friend of a friend of mine said that he saw a storm trooper aim at something......and hit it! I know crazy right!
Can't believe it didn't appear the actress was in a harness. With all the things "insurance" supposedly wouldn't let the Adam and Jamie do over the course of the show, it's hard to believe they let someone swing across that distance with no safety harness.
You can see he's not holding her weight so she must be in a harness as well
Unless he's using the force
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What
brainrot
i'm a StarWars fan, but it's fiction. How is known fiction the source of questionable myth? What are we even doing with this video?
They do realize it’s a movie right? It’s fake. For entertainment reasons. Right????
Clearly, you haven’t watched nor are you familiar with the concept of the show.
There's one thing they didn't account for (and can't really replicate) and that's the twins connection to "The Force" which could help matters without them really realizing.
And the kiss - for luck - I mean, there's two twins with a Jedi father, both loaded with mitochlorians, and they kiss, well clearly it's like "super powers, activate".
I think Luke had the same chances here as hitting that vent port. That is, none, except he's a golden boy.
Strong with the plot young skywalker is
Passive connection to the force can give them better reflexes or an easier time making the grapple hook shot. It doesn't do anything for the broken ribs which would require Luke intentionally using the force to make his body more durable (Episode 4 Luke had no training).
However, Lukes is much younger than Jamie and weighs less than him which makes it more plausible for him to do the swing without serious injury.
@@isaacnikolic5895 And yet the force didn't give him the insight that he was kissing his sister...the force is pretty redneck
Anakin's got some strong sperms
This episode introduced me to the 501st Legion...and I never looked back! Thank you!
The thing that has always bothered me about this simulation is that in the movie, Leia has her right arm and the front of her torso wrapped around the front of Luke's waist with her left arm draped over his left shoulder from the rear and her knees pressed against his back. They didn't swing side-by-side.
Jesus Christ dude
may the 4th be with you wish they would bring back this show an or at least post the full episodes on here
As someone who saw the original cut of Star Wars in the theatres before wide release and re-editing, I always thought that they should have left in Luke's first attempt (which missed). I know it tightens the sequence up timing wise to just make it in one attempt, but it's more realistic that he missed the first time. EDIT: since it wasn't clear, I saw Star Wars in May 1977 in Orlando, Florida when my family was on vacation. It didn't get wide release until late June back home. The May 1977 version I saw had the extra scenes of Luke watching the battle, missing with his first attempt to connect the grapple hook, and the Death Star was NOT about to fire on the Rebel base (that was done in re-editing for the wide release), among other differences!
Is there a clip of this to watch?
This guy is suffering from misremembering. Carrie Fisher herself said the jump was done in one take, because herself and Mark Hamill were so nervous the first time, and after that they were excited to do it again, but George had got the shot, so no more jumps, a bummer Carrie said.
@@parkpunk2 unfortunately nothing seems to be on RUclips.
@@Mariojinn2 since you don't know me you can't possibly know whether I'm misremembering or not, no offense. I didn't say anything about the swing across the chasm, only that the grapple didn't successfully connect the first time, and Luke needed to try again. I apologize if my original comment made it unclear (upon re-reading I can easily see where someone would get the wrong impression of what I was trying to say); I was talking specifically about the grapple hook.
@@Mariojinn2 In the BOOK, he misses the first swing, but not in the movie
With the way the swing can go wild, it's really cute they thought that narrow line of pads was sufficient to prevent/reduce injury in a catastrophic failure.
Yeah I was thinking that too! I was wondering why they didn’t cover a wider area. And from that height I would expect something thicker, possibly with air.
Yeah, I was waiting for the giant airbag you see when a stunt person falls from a building to be inflated and brought in, so Jamie would have just been swinging JUST above it even when doing the final swing from the raised set pieces!
@@trynda1701 or a circus net.
Exactly what I was thinking. They should at least have had some padding beside incase they fall off after hitting the thick pad. Glad that it worked out okay, though.
I am totally sure they a) exchanged the hook for something actually safe and b) had Leia safely connected to Jamie. Those people know what they're doing.
First, Luke has the Force. He's not proficient in using it yet, but he's been doing things with it since he was born, without knowing it was the Force.
Second, what is gravity like in that chasm? The Death Star isn't the size of a full planet. And it's designed really dumb. It's not like an onion; levels are mostly flat across it. Each floor has to be generating artificial gravity, but only upward. Since there's no walkway, there's less than normal gravity. There may be more natural gravity coming from above than below, for all we know, since we don't know what level they're at.
Honestly, Jamie looks like Zach Galifianakis trying to look like Luke Skywalker
I bet you Jamie hated pretty much all of this. Poor guy, taking one for the team.
Just had the chance to meet adam at my local convention center during the event this past weekend! Such a nice guy!
Of COURSE Jamie has a Luke Skywalker costume.
Luke was younger, and in much better shape. It means he was lighter and stronger. Safety harnesses in real life are not always going between the legs. Simple one are just like this belt, just wider.
He's a middle aged "large" old man. Luke was a spry young "farm boy". He wasn't worried about breaking a hip like this old man is.
I agree. Being lighter and possible stronger would help as far as not getting injured.
what they forgot Luke had the Force and neither of them have the force thats the game changer
I've never seen Jamie looking so bashful! 😄
Could Luke have been channeling the Force to pull this off????
The scene was a Hollyweird cheat - as were many similar scenes of the old serials that inspired the movie.
Both Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher were in full harnesses while clipped to each other and the cable.
Granted, there were plenty of performers that did not always think safety in the movies. Harold Lloyd blew the thumb and index finger off of his right hand with what he thought was a prop bomb that he played with between scenes.
Im surprised no one ever mythbusted batman. His grappling hook would have to shoot faster than his fall rate and catch on something able to support his weight 😂
I'm assuming they just ended up recreating what the stunt people did in 1976 anyway.
Where is the part where Leia kisses him (Luke) and says: "Good luck. ".🙄
WTF, this is why Adam hates Allan. We adam
They are back!
This is like 10 years old
bro I wish
You forgot to kiss your sister for luck!
Could they survive they're kiss?
He definitely should have kissed his sister 😉
Awesome
dang i wish i could meet or talk to adam!! big fan here!
I highly recommend looking up open sauce its a place where a bunch of creatives get together and meet the fans
Mark and Carrie did the swing practically in one attempt. You can watch the BTS it in the Empire of Dreams documentary. This entire video was a waste of time.
Yes, because they were both strong with the force and the Mythbusters were not. Silly tests.
To bad they didn't do the Luke and Leia swing from Return of the Jedi. I would love to see Sophia in that outfit.