Could Jack Have Survived on the Titanic Raft? | MythBusters | Discovery
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2024
- Adam Savage and Jamie Hyneman explore the myth from the blockbuster ‘Titanic,’ addressing the lingering question posed to director James Cameron by fans: Could Jack have survived if he had shared the raft?
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Could Jack Have Survived on the Titanic Raft? | MythBusters | Discovery
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Instead of BGM, this video has BGD (Background Dialog)
I wanted to watch it but just couldn't with that crappy music.
Fr though- the editors are a little unhinged on episodes... the background music is a little loud-
why is the music so damn loud, compared to the dialog?
discovery channel things
I was just thinking the same thing! I thought ' What armature audio engineer went nuts with mix?' Terrible mix and balance of music placed on the diolog.
It wasn’t like this originally? Very odd
Authentic movie experience*
Unwatchable. Delete and reupload Discovery.
I just love Cameron's response, "The script says Jack dies, he has to die."
Translation: It's my damn movie and his dead because I said so!
Rose didn't make a mistake, the prop department did. They were told to make a raft that was too small for two people.
But the prop guys turned out to be right, despite what MB says. Rose and Jack would still suffer from sever hypothermia with loss of muscle control. Two people keeping balance on the raft was difficult, as seen in the video. One or both of them would fall off and not be able to get back on again.
It’s nice to see that James is a down to earth guy that is willing to help out around the shop. It warms my heart…
Seeing James reaction was fun. And he kept it real; the story ends with Jack dying so - prop department door be damned - he's not getting on the door and he's going to die.
Appreciate all these MythBusters clips. This show really brings me back.
i like listening to LOUD music while Adam and Jamie is talking
I kept checking my computer to see what video i had playing in the background or game i accidentally opened, only to realize it is this video that has the loud music.
Two of them hugging on the board made most sense. Paddle to a lifeboat. Many were underfilled.
One thing about the floating above water part is that the body isn't completely out of the water, it's still touching parts of the water which means it's constantly getting wet. Also, once the body temperature gets low enough that the muscles seize up, you'll no longer have the strength to hold onto the board, so if even a small wave comes along and knocks you off it, you're drowning. It's also unlikely the rescuers would be able to warm up her body quickly enough once they were able to reach her.
tv will never be this enjoyable again
This is barely watchable with the loud ass sound affects that wasn’t there originally
Thank the talmudic js for that one.
i dont care if there is a music background the fact that James Cameron is there acting is a treat and besides this is just a clip and not full episode there is a RUclips creator here who uploaded the full episode of Mythbuster this with no music background i'll just wait for him to upload this full episode
The music is too loud. Love the show though.
WHAT? YOU HAVE TO TYPE LOUDER, THE MUSIC IS TOO LOUD, WE CAN'T HEAR YOU!
WHAT??? YOU FEAR EMUS?????
@@mikemike7139"WHO'S TO BLEEMUS?!!!"
wtf?!....AAHAAA...WHO'S TO BLAME?!
I DON'T KNOW, I ASSUME THE EDITOR!!!!
@@iggy2906Boo! Beavers?! I'm not afraid of beavers.
One thought about hypothermia: If both of them would have been on the improvised raft and cuddled together, their temperature even should have dropped a little slower, because they would warm each other (at least a little bit) - that might add some more minutes for the rescue. Or am I wrong here?
Your definently right, animals do this to stay warm in freezing temperatures. It seems they just didn't account for this.
They could have also taun-tauned it.
@@A_youtube_channel_ Human animals have also been known to do this.
@@michaelkukula5926 🤣 I almost dropped my phone.
@@frankk1358 Jack: I thought they smelled bad on the outside.
from my understanding james cameron is still yet to this day getting crap on this , great episode of a long list of them . mythbusters cast should get a star on the Hollywood walk of fame
He did not like the result tho
did they account for rough ocean waters? waves and such and the up and down, it only worked in relatively calm water with zero panic
Great ideas that save your lives only work if you think of them.
Stressful events and extreme cold can seriously impair your abilities to think and reason
@@Ripen3 He seemed like a pretty good sport about it.
@@allanshpeley4284 He was, but he also got his own divers with all the sensors and stuff to get it as accurate as possible to the props and still determined he would have died. It's still something people debate to this day even tho many have tested and got both sides of the results as well. Kinda funny how that turned out
Holy background music ear domination
I see a couple of flaws.
1st.. Jamie's oak planks are of 'Green' oak. The ship used dry oak.. more buoyant.
2nd.. clothes worn by both were of silk, cotton, and wool. none of which are represented in the 1/4 scale.
3rd.. Though the salt mixture may have been a standard ratio.. the north Atlantic salt ratio is less because of the melting icebergs.
significantly less melting than now back then tho
ive watched a couple mythbusters clips lately and I still cant figure out if the mix is off or if my computer is blowing a speaker....
Jamie and Adam DIDN'T take into account the cold temperatures of the water and what it does to your muscles. If Jack tried to climb on also, he could have tipped over the door and VERY possibly not had enough strength to put Rose back on and try again
Now - the one thing I dispute here is they had the benefit of essentially - prep time. And when they got into the water they weren't dealing with the negative effects of hypothermia. Meaning - they had time to come up with a solution that Rose and Jack wouldn't have, and may not have been able to execute. I don't think two people suffering (at that point) mild Hypothermia would have been able to get into the water, tie the life preserver under it, then get back up onto the board.
the problem i have is that Jamie and Adam are big and healthy men with a combined weight of 170/180kg while Rose and Jack where small and skinny who probly had a combined 110kg, So they probly didn't need the life jacket underneath the board.
@@DanteKenchi Ah but I would argue - them being so small and skinny means they would be affected by the cold temperatures WAY faster. Meaning an argument could be made that even both of them getting onto the board and moving enough to distribute their weight so it doesn't sink (cuz remember, Balance is ALSO a really big factor that gets fixed by the life jacket) would have been too difficult for them to both do under those conditions.
Just because they could theoretically tie a float under it doesn't mean that two people freezing to death in dire straits could think of that in time and have the physical mobility and strenght to do it. That is why they died.
yea, exactly. I wonder what difference being half-submerged would do
True. Even if Jack and Rose still had the energy, presence of mind, and smarts to try the life vest under the plank trick, just taking the vest off Rose would put Rose at risk (not what Jack would want). Additionally, if they tried and iit didn't work, they'd likely both die. They had also been through a lot already that night and had been in cold water and cold air, even while on the ship. Being able to MacGyver the situation largely in the dark, in frigid waters, and not knowing if it would help or hurt, even if successful, would not be a likely choice. It would all need to be well secured, and fingers and hands especially don't work well in the cold. Lastly, it is Cameron's story, we're never able to change a character's behavior based on what we would do.
WTF is up with the music?!?!?!?!
agree
It's called the "volume"
Stop complaining
@@owenwoods5253 suck me sideways
@@owenwoods5253 why? this is what internet is for nowadays...
dont complain about my complain!
I do wonder, obviously shivering is designed to help keep the body warm when it starts losing temperature, as they mention. If they simulated shivering, as would happen in a real person, would that have had an effect on the hypothermia testing.
Best show of my childhood
Is this show is that old too like you 😂
@@adeelamjadkhan4570 WTF... is that even a language you just spoke?
seriously...
"Is this show is that old too like you "
What are you even questioning?
Not a good look with half the comments are about the background music instead of the content. Do better @Discovery.
Stop wining like a baby.
Bottom line is that either Jack or Rose would have to be smart enough to attach the life jacket to the board. In other words, he's dead.
Most people say "Explain this to me like I'm an idiot," but not Jamie. Adam is constantly having to translate everything that normal people say to Jamie because it's too simple for him to understand otherwise.
If this show had Debuted in 2015, being able to fully take advantage of social media it would have been 10x more popular and still going strong today.
"You made a movie about the Titanic? Why? We already know how it ended."
I think having the strength to pull yourself up out of the freezing water onto that board without it tipping over would have been very difficult if not impossible. Also they didn’t factor in the fact that they were both in the water for some minutes and out in the cold for at least an hour prior to reaching the door.
None of this takes wind chill into account. Just another factor to add into the mix.
Yup. O C temp, 10mps wind = -7 C
the calm waters the test was run in did not account for open ocean conditions (not that they could have safely tested that without a massive budget).
They should have done it wearing what the two characters wore instead of orange water proof suits.
it would be great to see the full episode's on here
What a nice music video!
RELEASE ALL THE FULL EPISODES!
A human body generates heat, so doesn't just cool down at a constant rate like thermo man did. They would need a small heater in it to simulate the added heat the the body generates while cooling down from the cold water and air.
finaly a HD mythbusters in youtube. brings back times
It was a MOVIE, not a documentary. Not a "myth" - FICTION.
They ran out of real myths many episodes ago.
Cameron murdered Jack and there's no stopping him
I just love Cameron response the script says jack dies he has to die translating it’s my damn movie and dead because I said so
I remember this episode when it first aired and I loved it... I'm so glad they finally settled this. 😁👍❤️
He probably would have still died. Most people wouldn't have some McGuyver plan like that.
Sometimes the narration on RUclips versions of the show is too quiet or only on the left. I'm almost certain the master copies of Mythbusters have the audio on separate tracks: one for the diagetic audio, one for the music, and one for the narrator. And when they upload these to RUclips, the mastering sometimes gets ruined
Why do these guys keep talking during this music video
Cool video bro✌👌
@discovery, please reupload with proper sound mixing😐
Who are Rose and Jack?
Rose and Jack are smaller than these guys so they would fit better and weigh it down less, however... they had been running on pure adrenaline for hours. They were exhausted, traumatized and probably not thinking clearly. Definitely not able to engineer the life vest under the door, but also I think it's realistic that Jack would have given up in concern for Roses safety without keeping trying the tilting door situation
The top gear sound editor works in mysterious ways....
Will forever be my favorite show 💪🏾
This must be the euro mix of mythbusters. Only shows in the EU have super loud music like this.
I just want to point out, that the replica of the board they were on is probably something some movie fans want. ;D
Jaysus, whoever edited this needs to be replaced! That insane loud background music shows they didn't review their own edit before uploading.
Jack wouldn't have laid still in the water, he would have moved, and therefore created more body heat
During that cold of water. I’d like to see you tie that on there
“Don’t call me Rose” 😂😂😂
The most unrealistic part of this clip is dumping trash on the ground so James Cameron could sweep it up. It would have driven Jamie insane.
damn it, I can still hear them talking over the music
WHY IS THE MUSIC SO LOUD?!
STOP COMPLAINING AND TURN IT DOWN
The sound guy should have been the one to not climb on the piece of wreckage, not Jack
Thermal boy had no water in him.. we are 70% water and we generate heat just by living. I think that makes this whole thing void
Mythbusters is right there with Firefly as one of the shows I miss the most.
The whole point was Jack's sacrifice so Rose could live. It doesn't matter if he could have fit, because that's not why he died.
Boo 👎
The sound mixing on this episode. 🧏♂️
Rose was what, 55kg? Same as Jack who was a small, skinny guy? That's a good 110kg, i'm sure Jamie and Adam are 85 to maybe 90kg, that's 170/180kg, so yeah it wouldn't be a problem to stay on it.
I feel like Jaime and Adam didn't really get a long well was cuz Adam wanted it to be like a scripted Bill Nye type kidish show and Jaime wanted to take a more serious approach to get to the root of the experiment without all of the theatrics. Could be way off, but I get that type of vibe from them talking in interviews.
Do you know what I would like? A BLURAY Release of Mythbusters!
Now would they be able to tie the life jacket across the wood, without sinking at that temperature.
I had no idea James was so salty
It’s crazy I’m watching this a day after the Baltimore bridge collapse! The guys probably all died from hypothermia!
The lesson from this is don't cross a body of water unless your name is Rose.
You would think 2 dudes who have been on tv for 10 years and the guy who directed one of the biggest movies ever would be better actors... or maybe it just seemed that way because i couldn't hear them.
Is this video about the Titanic? All I can hear is stock music
Wait a minute, was Scruffy from Futurama based on Jamie?!?
What's up with the "Background" music here? I can hardly hear what people are saying
Were Adam and Jamie using their muscles to keep themselves on the board though?
How rough was the ocean at that time?
the music is annoying when you cant hear them speaking properly
Not if the wind picked up.
WHAT DID YOU SAY ADAM? I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THE MUSIC
So, since this show must only for outdated American measurements.
The modern easier to understand Celsius method, they were speaking around 28 degrees.
Which is actually a lot warmer than I thought it would be. I thought the human body could go way cooler than that.
i wonder if Adam or Jamie still watches these 🙃😚🙆🏼♀️
Come on editor... film and video production 101, music at most should be set to -18 and dialogue should be -12. Though I prefer music at -20 and dialogue about -10. Which reminds me, if you need an editor, I would be more than happy to do it.
What do those numbers mean?
Sincerely person who mutes most TV / steaming movies due to "Background" music
@@a_921 so basically, those numbers are the ideal DB levels, sound levels. Music should never overtake the dialogue. A good editor can "duck" the music to the dialogue, meaning lower the music every time someone talks.
Quick note, the ties on that life vest seemed awful long, was that the accurate size? Also, you’re assuming they would have thought of doing it, they’re not mythbusters. Also also, I saw the movie a long time ago once and have no dog in this fight. Why do people care?
damn. this audio is totally screwd
Why tf is everyone complaining. STOP IT
Myth Confirmed, Rose did kill Jack
You guys held yourself up out of the water but Rose and/or Jack would not have been able to hold themselves up out of the water. They did not have sub 0 life Suits.
It was a great show. I do miss it and the Discovery Channel. Cable TV is unwatchable now.
Ok there not in period cloths which would hold water and add extra weight. 2 it was butt cold and would be freezing after how long so an average can keep there brain in charge. Which when you hit that cold water you just start involuntary gasping for air. Which there not doing so there not in freezing conditions and not as heavy with water logged cloths.
Jack had to die, because his interclass romance would die on land.
Hold on a second, Jack can survive a deadly plane crash with the posibility of one in a million, with severe burns, broken bones and dislocated organs, but can't survive being exposed to the cold water for a few minutes?
Exact typical one aren't you?
that does not account for buoyancy (since you're obviously making a test with things floating in water. spoiler: I'm only at 3:58
Can you guys send me the audio masters for this vid so I can spend the 90 seconds to fix your levels? I will do it for free.
Rose did.
Needed to wear their clothing. And is the door just as old
Jamie is awesome lol. Pretty much me. Waitasec, normal things lamost evertyone knows. I am without an idea.
Super annoying background music... Grrr
Um... the only flaw. He is a boy, she is a girl. If they spent any time at all cuddling, they would share heat and multiply warmth. Also, a woman survives hypothermia much longer than men.
Sir please dubbed in Hindi.😊😊😊😊