Even though the air did most of the damage, I think the ball broke the skin to allow the air a pocket to fill and tear. Without the ball I don't think the air would have broken the skin. I'd like to see it tested further.
This is the post I was looking for. High pressure fluid injection can cause massive local trauma. Even in an appendage- without amputation, that sort of injury could certainly be lethal.
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. The ball broke the skin which allowed the air to enter and cause quite the bubble under the skin. Maybe not fatal, but that would be an incredibly painful wound.
@@angusmctwangstick4079 yeah, you can actually see remnants of the ping pong ball get forced into the wound even further after impact - the superficial damage they saw was probably because of the ball splintering into sharp plastic and allowing tears and then being forced in by the remnant air pressure.
We used to watch myth busters in school when i was a kid if we got all of our work done before Friday. Nobody messed it up for us. We were a team so we could watch the show
It was shortly after then that I stopped watching TV. I lived in a tent on a campsite for 2 Summer seasons, teaching rock climbing, no TV, just sitting round the fire chatting instead......Came back to 'civilisation', I'd just about lost interest, the final straw was when I split with my (now ex) wife, and she took the TV (Fair enough, it was hers), and I've never bothered replacing it. IF I want to watch something, I can usually find it online, and as I'm in the UK, I object to paying the 'TV licence fee' that funds the incredibly politically biased Government propaganda channel, and paedophile employer / defender / apologist, the BBC, British Broadcasting Cooperation.
This aired in 2014. I guess you could call it early 2000's TV if you're talking in terms of millennia or even centuries, but in terms of decades, this would be mid 2010's.
@hrodga Mythbusters aired on Discovery Channel in 2003. If you want to get technical on the date of the episode, sure, but Mythbusters is absolutely early 2000's TV. It used to be on when Monk was still running on cable television.
A "professional" regulation ping pong ball weighs 2.7g, and at 1100 mph is impacting with 240 ft-lbs of force over a very small area. I would say plausible, if not confirmed.
If I did my math right, that's only about 1.7 PSI. The average boxer hits with about 770 PSI. Granted, that's wearing a boxing glove and a larger impact area, but even bare knuckles, it's unlikely to be fatal. Personally, I think the air pressure did the bulk of the damage to the pork shoulder.
when this first aired i actually had a bunch of ping pong balls that my wife an i found as we were cleaning out a house that your landlord had bought i took a handful of them an looked at one an was like no way they weigh next to nothing after seeing what adam an jamie did i changed my mind . great episode it would be great to bring this show back an i dont know about the rest of you but mythbusters needs a star on the walk of fame
When MB first aired, my wife and I just happened to watch it purely by accident. I have no recollection of what we were watching on Discovery prior to the first Mythbusters episode (3) we watched. As MBrs was about to begin my wife asked me to find something else to watch and I said, “How bad can it be?” We were eating dinner in front of the tv, which was rare. So my wife capitulated. And after that we watched or recorded every episode. I’m not really a geek. A geek would be a step up. A huge step up. I’m more of what is often referred to as a “Dork.” A very big “Dork,” though not physically. But Mythbusters, for an extended moment in time, “Dorked” out my wife. My wife’s closeted, inner “Dork” reared it’s head and it was fantastic. We still will go on MAX and pick out a couple episodes to watch. “DORKS” RULE!!!!!
Funnily enough, a supersized version of Adam's pressure-vacuum cannon, using the same principles, would be used by Destin from SmarterEveryDay to fling supersonic baseballs at M1.3+.
They literally used the exact same vacuum pump I use at my job replacing air conditioners😂 it’s AWESOME to see what else they the do…hell I need to do this!
Similar mass and velocity to a .22LR bullet, but with a much larger surface area and a geometry that will distribute the transfer of kinetic energy when compared to a bullet. .22LR is lethal but not by much. A ping pong ball is unlikely to be lethal.
If it was a spy movie and the target was in a restaurant, and the villain set up this ping pong ball weapon next door with the barrel sticking out behind a painting. And when the target sat down in a booth against the wall. The villain takes his shot. Thatd be lethal then
They needed to add a reservoir at the end of the barrel off to the side to provide a place for all the air getting past the ball to accumulate. i.e. create a really large vacuum volume but most of the vacuum volume is off to the side near the end of the barrel. The air (atmospheric or boosted) rushes in, pushing the ball and some getting past it but at the end of the barrel the air goes out small side holes into the side reservoir and the ball continues straight and breaks out of the barrel, never being slowed by the air cushion. One of the few episodes where I had an idea that could help and they did not just go there. I so want to try the larger vacuum and see how much faster it would have gone.
I think I would call this one highly unlikely, but "plausible." An impact of that caliber on your throat could certainly crush your wind pipe and cause suffocation.
I'm thinking if the ball hit anywhere mid torso I would be worried about the kinetic energy delivered to all surrounding internal organs, and the spine being the backstop for all those organs moving close to the speed of sound. I'm betting lethal at that range... Re-do on complete pig cadaver and see what occurs.
Possible the only thing they could have done to add to the experiment would be rifling, with the new rounds coming out going slowi g than the speed of sound what matters is twist rate. I don't think it would have changed much. But they should have used a gold ball at the end to show how much a little mass would change the results
did the math and if i did it right a ping pong ball, or at least something with the same mass, would need to go 2550 mph to impact with the same Joules as a 5.56 round
I remember this when it came out , learned a lot since then and play (pritty well ) table tennis , spin on the ball maters , a lot , a ball smashed at you by some 1 that does,nt play hurts , but a ball hit at you by a player that can get good top spin hurts more , and leaves a bigger mark , probably still would,nt be leathal , but at 1100 mph with top spin would be very interesting to see
I also would like to point out how much energy was lost do to the stand falling over if they would have made the pork shoulder fixed I bet the damage would have been worse.
Totally leaving out the fact that the "victim" was cooperating by standing practically AGAINST the weapon. Which rarely happens. Not even "Plausible". Really busted.
I do believe it is possible for a ping pong ball to kill a person the same way a chihuahua can kill a bull dog in a 1 on 1 fight, by getting eaten by the bulldog and having its head get stuck in the bulldog's throat and choking to death.
But what if it was either a shot to a person's temple or a person's nose? It would definitely break a person's nose. Though the latter (death by broken nose option) maybe an urban legend.
Come on guys, the rear shoulders are hams. And the fronts are butts. But they're only called butts, because in colonial england the butchers would ship them in specialty barrels called butts.
Straw has been found imbedded in trees and brick/cinderblock walls after hurricanes so why not a fatal ping-pong ball? 453 mph is 664.4 fps - a CO2 powered pellet gun averages between 400-600 fps firing a 7.4 grain pellet, which weighs approximately half a gram while a ping pong ball weighs 2.7 grams, or 41.7 grains, which is approximately a .22 long bullet weight. Weight plus fps is what creates the lethality of a bullet - the FBI has determined that about 63 foot-pounds (85 Joules) is the minimum needed to be considered lethal, so that means that the ball is currently delivering 40.86 foot pounds of energy to the target - not enough to officially be considered lethal, especially in light of how large the diameter of the ball is and thus how dispersed the energy on the impact area is. 779 mph is 1142.5 fps which brings the ball up to 120.8 foot pounds, almost twice the minimum the FBI feels is lethal, meaning that even with the diameter of the ball spreading out the energy, it should be capable of ruining someone's day. 1086 mph = 1592.8 fps = 234.9 foot pounds - average 9mm bullet delivers 300-400 foot pounds. 1100 mph = 1613 fps = 240.85 foot pounds - 9mm bullet travels an average speed of 1150-1200 fps, so yes, faster than a speeding bullet. Sorry, gotta give thumbs down because they failed to use a ballistic skull or some sort of simulation of a headshot as I'm sure the myth of a fatal ping pong ball impact did involve being struck in the head and that ball was delivering sufficient foot pounds of energy that odds were in its favor of caving in a forehead and potentially even blowing through plywood.
lol OK MY expected result wasn't there! I had the ball disintegrating at the lower pressure. Ummmm....nope.... Hey! At HIGHER pressure I was right! Woo hoo!
Or they could have used it like a shotgun wad behind that ping pong ball in order to stop the air from getting around it .... Instead of the rocket science solution LOL I mean it's a really cool solution it's probably giving them more power then it was overcoming but jeez really a shotgun wad would have just fixed that
That definitely looks deadly to me. The wound might be small but the displacement bubble was huge. Heart, lungs, liver, whatever was in that bubble would be obliterated - and that isn't even considering a head shot. It's like saying a .22 isnt deadly because the hole is small. This was definitely influenced by someone, these guys are smarter than that.
We need Mythbusters back full time
Will never happen, jamie is done with TV and Adam.
They held castings and one season for the next generation of MythBusters, but that was as far as it went. Nothing like the OGs
Jamie is still doing it there are just no cameras
I concur
@@godnah Um, Jamie is a professor in Finland.
Ping pong ball may not have been deadly, but that air pressure going into the cavity most likely would be.
This was all stuff you could get at Home Depot and they're just casually accelerating ping pong balls to 1000 miles an hour LMAO
it looked like the air did a lot more damage then the ball, air pressure isnt something to mess with
that was my thinking too. would have like to see them run the test a second time without the ball.
Even though the air did most of the damage, I think the ball broke the skin to allow the air a pocket to fill and tear. Without the ball I don't think the air would have broken the skin. I'd like to see it tested further.
This is the post I was looking for. High pressure fluid injection can cause massive local trauma. Even in an appendage- without amputation, that sort of injury could certainly be lethal.
Yeah, that’s what I was thinking. The ball broke the skin which allowed the air to enter and cause quite the bubble under the skin. Maybe not fatal, but that would be an incredibly painful wound.
@@angusmctwangstick4079 yeah, you can actually see remnants of the ping pong ball get forced into the wound even further after impact - the superficial damage they saw was probably because of the ball splintering into sharp plastic and allowing tears and then being forced in by the remnant air pressure.
We used to watch myth busters in school when i was a kid if we got all of our work done before Friday. Nobody messed it up for us. We were a team so we could watch the show
That’s a fantastic incentive. It clearly worked wonders, too
Might not be deadly if it hit you in the torso but if that hit you in the head you'd probably be in a bit of trouble.
Please post more mythbusters segments. Miss that show!
Early 2000's TV was underrated
Early 2000's is my childhood
Absolutely
It was shortly after then that I stopped watching TV. I lived in a tent on a campsite for 2 Summer seasons, teaching rock climbing, no TV, just sitting round the fire chatting instead......Came back to 'civilisation', I'd just about lost interest, the final straw was when I split with my (now ex) wife, and she took the TV (Fair enough, it was hers), and I've never bothered replacing it. IF I want to watch something, I can usually find it online, and as I'm in the UK, I object to paying the 'TV licence fee' that funds the incredibly politically biased Government propaganda channel, and paedophile employer / defender / apologist, the BBC, British Broadcasting Cooperation.
This aired in 2014.
I guess you could call it early 2000's TV if you're talking in terms of millennia or even centuries, but in terms of decades, this would be mid 2010's.
@hrodga Mythbusters aired on Discovery Channel in 2003. If you want to get technical on the date of the episode, sure, but Mythbusters is absolutely early 2000's TV. It used to be on when Monk was still running on cable television.
A "professional" regulation ping pong ball weighs 2.7g, and at 1100 mph is impacting with 240 ft-lbs of force over a very small area. I would say plausible, if not confirmed.
If I did my math right, that's only about 1.7 PSI. The average boxer hits with about 770 PSI. Granted, that's wearing a boxing glove and a larger impact area, but even bare knuckles, it's unlikely to be fatal. Personally, I think the air pressure did the bulk of the damage to the pork shoulder.
I really enjoy how the producers found it necessary for grip department to rig a camera to the end of a baseball ball for some baseball bat POV shots
To be fair, they were really cool shots
Adam: Let's start with a bit where we're in ping pong athletic clothes
Jamie: No
Adam: ...I'm still gonna do it
when this first aired i actually had a bunch of ping pong balls that my wife an i found as we were cleaning out a house that your landlord had bought i took a handful of them an looked at one an was like no way they weigh next to nothing after seeing what adam an jamie did i changed my mind . great episode it would be great to bring this show back an i dont know about the rest of you but mythbusters needs a star on the walk of fame
Thank you. I can now safely attend ping pong tournaments now.
If the ping pong ball hit the neck just right, I feel it could be deadly. Plausible.
Plausible...if the ball is going over 1000mph, which isn't very plausiblelol
if it hits your temple you'd definetly be dead
When MB first aired, my wife and I just happened to watch it purely by accident. I have no recollection of what we were watching on Discovery prior to the first Mythbusters episode (3) we watched. As MBrs was about to begin my wife asked me to find something else to watch and I said, “How bad can it be?” We were eating dinner in front of the tv, which was rare. So my wife capitulated. And after that we watched or recorded every episode.
I’m not really a geek. A geek would be a step up. A huge step up. I’m more of what is often referred to as a “Dork.” A very big “Dork,” though not physically. But Mythbusters, for an extended moment in time, “Dorked” out my wife. My wife’s closeted, inner “Dork” reared it’s head and it was fantastic. We still will go on MAX and pick out a couple episodes to watch.
“DORKS” RULE!!!!!
Funnily enough, a supersized version of Adam's pressure-vacuum cannon, using the same principles, would be used by Destin from SmarterEveryDay to fling supersonic baseballs at M1.3+.
I love hiw excited Adam looks when he talks about the pork butt fact lol
I love how he's like "it's true, look it up 😃"
I have a question: Has there ever been a myth that Adam was hoping would be busted, but instead ended up getting confirmed?
several, the mice scaring elephants for one
"Pork have 4 shoulders, and 2 of them are butt. It's true, look it up" - Adam Savage, Scientist.
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Pressure sensitive trigger in ballistic dummy chest where heart is and redo deadly ping-pong
They literally used the exact same vacuum pump I use at my job replacing air conditioners😂 it’s AWESOME to see what else they the do…hell I need to do this!
Jamie…”that’s a good place to start” spoken like a true evil genius 😅😊
What a seamless wonderful experience watching this with no commercials, and no other stories edited together.
No jumping back and forth is good indeed.
Ok, maybe on Earth a ping pong ball is unable to achieve lethal velocity. But in space...
I'm no doctor, but I wouldn't want to be hit by that ball in the neck.
Thank you Discovery. A lot of these I couldn't watch in its entirety.
Similar mass and velocity to a .22LR bullet, but with a much larger surface area and a geometry that will distribute the transfer of kinetic energy when compared to a bullet.
.22LR is lethal but not by much. A ping pong ball is unlikely to be lethal.
Bring back thus show!
If it was a spy movie and the target was in a restaurant, and the villain set up this ping pong ball weapon next door with the barrel sticking out behind a painting. And when the target sat down in a booth against the wall. The villain takes his shot. Thatd be lethal then
Chuck Norris can bowl a strike with a ping pong ball.
They put it right next to the barrel. Just the air probably did that.
I am reminded of the Shmooball launcher competition.
Yes
As usual, I am as impressed as I am surprised.
They needed to add a reservoir at the end of the barrel off to the side to provide a place for all the air getting past the ball to accumulate. i.e. create a really large vacuum volume but most of the vacuum volume is off to the side near the end of the barrel. The air (atmospheric or boosted) rushes in, pushing the ball and some getting past it but at the end of the barrel the air goes out small side holes into the side reservoir and the ball continues straight and breaks out of the barrel, never being slowed by the air cushion. One of the few episodes where I had an idea that could help and they did not just go there. I so want to try the larger vacuum and see how much faster it would have gone.
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I knew they only had so much time but i always wanted to see them use rifling in the tube
This two men inspired me to become a ME major
I think I would call this one highly unlikely, but "plausible." An impact of that caliber on your throat could certainly crush your wind pipe and cause suffocation.
I'm thinking if the ball hit anywhere mid torso I would be worried about the kinetic energy delivered to all surrounding internal organs, and the spine being the backstop for all those organs moving close to the speed of sound. I'm betting lethal at that range... Re-do on complete pig cadaver and see what occurs.
Possible the only thing they could have done to add to the experiment would be rifling, with the new rounds coming out going slowi g than the speed of sound what matters is twist rate. I don't think it would have changed much. But they should have used a gold ball at the end to show how much a little mass would change the results
did the math and if i did it right a ping pong ball, or at least something with the same mass, would need to go 2550 mph to impact with the same Joules as a 5.56 round
I remember this when it came out , learned a lot since then and play (pritty well ) table tennis , spin on the ball maters , a lot , a ball smashed at you by some 1 that does,nt play hurts , but a ball hit at you by a player that can get good top spin hurts more , and leaves a bigger mark , probably still would,nt be leathal , but at 1100 mph with top spin would be very interesting to see
I also would like to point out how much energy was lost do to the stand falling over if they would have made the pork shoulder fixed I bet the damage would have been worse.
Add a golf ball with a gps tag and see how far this rig could shoot it
Man Adam's laugh is the best
I'm no expert but depending on the impact zone, that looked plausible to me.
I disagree about the lack of lethality.
What if the ping pong ball traveling at 1100 psi hit you directly straight in your eye ball....? It might be lethal..
I'm left wondering about barrel lengths between 20 and 150 feet.
Try swallowing one.
Lmfao, well played.
this may be the first and only gun that gets fired with a baseball bat
Totally leaving out the fact that the "victim" was cooperating by standing practically AGAINST the weapon. Which rarely happens. Not even "Plausible". Really busted.
Not what this is about lol
It's a crime that they didn't try and golf ball in that thing
Next time use a ball bearing
I got hit enough times with ping pong balls by other drunk college kids in my time that were hit ungodly hard. Those little turds hurt!
I do believe it is possible for a ping pong ball to kill a person the same way a chihuahua can kill a bull dog in a 1 on 1 fight, by getting eaten by the bulldog and having its head get stuck in the bulldog's throat and choking to death.
I’m surprised they didn’t bring out some ballistic gel Lmd like Buster
Not lethal? Still.. owch!
Rip too the two cast members that beat us to the afterlife
I understand why Jammie doesn't like Adam, his stupid laughing at everything
I like how there was a large "GAUGE" marked on the pressure gauge (1m30s) so we know what it is...
When the world needed them most, they stayed hidden
now try it with a golf ball
Discovery really trying to relive their glory days.
I want to live the glory days. May I?
Id want to see one filed with sand lol
But what if it was either a shot to a person's temple or a person's nose? It would definitely break a person's nose. Though the latter (death by broken nose option) maybe an urban legend.
If it hit a throat it would be deadly lol
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I’m surprised Jamie didn’t eat the plug of raw pork he pulled out.
i took a few pingpong balls to skin on my back from a few feet away from a water balloon launcher, and it did not feel good.
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A 2.5g ping pong ball at 1100fps is 103.7 FPE. That could definitely be lethal.
Idk. Seems like I can think of several places on a human where that last hit would terminate life.
Does everybody have an Uncle named Bob.. or just most everybody?
Come on guys, the rear shoulders are hams. And the fronts are butts. But they're only called butts, because in colonial england the butchers would ship them in specialty barrels called butts.
Did anybody else wish they would have stepped it up to a golf ball? No? Just me? Ok then
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No wonder this show didn't make it...
Just release the actual episodes
the ping pong ball not lethal but there's lots of trauma caused if you're not rushed to hospital you're screwed anyway.
Straw has been found imbedded in trees and brick/cinderblock walls after hurricanes so why not a fatal ping-pong ball?
453 mph is 664.4 fps - a CO2 powered pellet gun averages between 400-600 fps firing a 7.4 grain pellet, which weighs approximately half a gram while a ping pong ball weighs 2.7 grams, or 41.7 grains, which is approximately a .22 long bullet weight.
Weight plus fps is what creates the lethality of a bullet - the FBI has determined that about 63 foot-pounds (85 Joules) is the minimum needed to be considered lethal, so that means that the ball is currently delivering 40.86 foot pounds of energy to the target - not enough to officially be considered lethal, especially in light of how large the diameter of the ball is and thus how dispersed the energy on the impact area is.
779 mph is 1142.5 fps which brings the ball up to 120.8 foot pounds, almost twice the minimum the FBI feels is lethal, meaning that even with the diameter of the ball spreading out the energy, it should be capable of ruining someone's day.
1086 mph = 1592.8 fps = 234.9 foot pounds - average 9mm bullet delivers 300-400 foot pounds.
1100 mph = 1613 fps = 240.85 foot pounds - 9mm bullet travels an average speed of 1150-1200 fps, so yes, faster than a speeding bullet.
Sorry, gotta give thumbs down because they failed to use a ballistic skull or some sort of simulation of a headshot as I'm sure the myth of a fatal ping pong ball impact did involve being struck in the head and that ball was delivering sufficient foot pounds of energy that odds were in its favor of caving in a forehead and potentially even blowing through plywood.
they are trying to increase the energy in the system instead of increasing the efficiency of the system - just needed wadding behind the ball
Think the air is worse than the ball
lol OK MY expected result wasn't there! I had the ball disintegrating at the lower pressure. Ummmm....nope....
Hey! At HIGHER pressure I was right! Woo hoo!
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Adam is a 17 year old boy in the body of a 67 year old man (idk if he IS 67 but he looks that age)
What would a golf ball do?
I think that could kill you
Or they could have used it like a shotgun wad behind that ping pong ball in order to stop the air from getting around it .... Instead of the rocket science solution LOL I mean it's a really cool solution it's probably giving them more power then it was overcoming but jeez really a shotgun wad would have just fixed that
Sure, I'll work with him again. But I still don't have to like him😂
Why not just cut it in half and make a shape charge? :)
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Hoosier gang.
Stick in your throat.... But it's no frozen chicken....
Glass too close...pork butt too close, getting impact of the air.
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The air did more damage then the ball did. should have pulled back about 7 feet. Would have been a whole different turn out.
That definitely looks deadly to me. The wound might be small but the displacement bubble was huge. Heart, lungs, liver, whatever was in that bubble would be obliterated - and that isn't even considering a head shot. It's like saying a .22 isnt deadly because the hole is small. This was definitely influenced by someone, these guys are smarter than that.
Heheheheheheheh