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- Опубликовано: 6 сен 2024
- In todays video we go through the entire process to determine the weight of an IBC Tote Filled with stacked firewood. The wood is a mix of Red Oak and Cherry. I drove to Cat Certified Scales before and after to get an accurate weight. The RK 55 aka "Big Red" has no problems lifting it. I don't know of a subcompact tractor that would even come close to lifting this.
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Awesome job Mike , thanks for the update , can't wait to find out final dried weight ! Thanks for sharing !!!!! 😊🙏👍❤
My kioti tractor (25 hp) has a lift capacity of 1800 lbs. Picks these up fine.
It's worth looking into kioti.
Just some information on small compact tractors for anyone that's interested. I have a Kubota B2601. It will lift a 275 gallon IBC tote filled to the top of tightly stacked green beechwood about 4 inches off the ground. I believe it was a hair over a 1/4 cord. When stacked 6 inches from the top of the tote the B2601 will lift it 4 feet. In other words, the Kubota B2601 will lift 1/5 of a cord 4' high in a 275 gallon IBC tote. That's with 330 pound Landpride forks. You can move and stack IBC totes of firewood with a B2601.
Nice one Mike, I’m glad you’ve mentioned about lifting such weight with smaller tractors. I’ve had full cages of our damp Aussie hardwood top 1000kgs (2200lbs). Need a stout tractor and decent rear ballast.
I’m a 78 year old Aussie and still do my own firewood! Not only are our woods hard and heavy but I reckon they get heavier every year....Grin~
It was cool to get to meet you yesterday! Wish we could've chatted more. Love your channel!
Mike, you're right. As a retired trucker I can tell you that those cat scales are all across the country. There's even a Cat Scale app one can put on their phone.
All this is well and good but just as an FYI for your video audience, if they have something to weigh, if there's a DOT certified scales on a road close to them they can take their trailer there and get a weight for free.
Really liking your videos Mike, have a blessed day
Russ
Mike, love your videos. FYI according to a chart from university of Nebraska you will loose 450lbs of water weight when a 1/3 of a cord of red oak dries out.
I was at that same cat scale too close to a year ago. I had to get my harbor freight trailer weighed to get it legal. Funny you were there also. Lol. Keep up the great video Mike and Melissa.
We just use grain elevator scales around here. I have one less than 4 miles from here. The nearest CAT Certified (similar to certified used cars, I would guess) is about 40 miles.
I use scrapyard scales. Same idea, bit more urban.
Mike, thank you for making this video, i really wondered myself on the weight of a IBC loaded . I just made a set of custom forks for my Kubota KX121-3 excavator for this exact reason. You beat me to the whole IBC firewood storage system video, haha. But i will be releasing a video soon of the fabrication. I will also make some bins out of 10gauge welded wire fencing on oak palettes to compare to the IBC system. Thanks for sharing!
And so, why couldn't Melissa pick that up?? 😊
Really though, very interesting information. It'll be fun to see how much weight it loses when dry.
Nice camera angle up high while splitting. Thanks, Mike and Melissa.
Thanks for explaining all the bells and whistles from the new truck
Great video Mike! Thanks for the weight info on a full tote. Can you make a video of the rk37 vs your Kubota attempting to lift a full tote? I have a feeling the rk37 will lift it but the kubota will not be able to.
I split a cord of Elm on Saturday. That stuff was so wet and heavy and stringy! Oh man. But hey free wood is free wood, minus labor and fuel of course. Thanks for sharing.
Love the channel, been here since 13K. I live in Chicago and I have no idea why I like it, but I love the firewood cutting, splitting and stacking!
Awesome video.
Was there ever a follow-up video with a weight after the wood had seasoned?
I smiled and had a little laugh when I saw Melissa she’s so funny you are a very lucky man to call her your wife bless you both
You could put those halves together after first split and do both at same time. Save some wear and tear on splitter. Just a thought.
I was close I said 1500. It was nice talking to you and Melissa Saturday. Thanks for the videos mike keep up the good work.
How much does the tote weighs
Great vid. While most smaller CUTs won't be able to lift this much. It is still an option for some to utilize this method if they go with 3 point pallet forks instead of the loader to move these around.
Mike here is a tip: When you are cutting logs into 4 pieces cut it in half once then stack the 2 half pieces on top of each other and output 4 pieces at once
He did do that a couple times when the pieces were small enough. Not at the beginning of the video though.
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We had a pulp wood yard in Kiln Ms(home of Brett Favre) that use to measure a cord of wood on your truck. They averaged the weight with the measurement and came up with 5400 pounds and began by paying by the weight. This wouldn't be practical for you but that is how we did it here. Try cutting pulp wood with a 55 Homelite chain saw in the Ms heat. Do not miss that
Would be cool to see the rk37 vs Kubota (if you still have it)wood tote lift off to see if they both can lift the loaded tote to full height.
I have a Kubota Grand L4760 (HST 49 HP at pto) with my homemade wood pallet boxes I have basically a 48"x48"x48" cage bolted to a plastic pallet, cages are 1"x1"x1/8" angle iron, 2 sides have expanded metal welded inside angle and the other two ends are open. I can lift one pallet and place to dry wood, and I can put another pallet on top. I usually have a straight blade or bush hog on the back for counter weight. It is not a problem to stack a pallet on another, I didn't try to lift any higher, I think it would as long as you had enough counter weight, its all the hydraulic power if you can lift it off the ground it should go up.
Great video Mike. Glad you all had a good time in Cambridge and got to meet so many folks. I was reading some of the comments and I see you have one tough Cookie questioning you about the weigh-in??? Be careful with that one, she may be close by. Keep having fun and catch you next video. hi melissa
When you weighted your truck the first time, was the empty tote in the bed?
I have watched tons of your videos. You are the reason I own "Lil Duke" my own RK 24. This video was extremely informative and helpful.
Well we are a few days shy of the one year mark mike mentioned for a reweigh to get the moisture loss
An interesting test to do and valuable to a lot of people I bet!!!
I sure am glad you enjoy doing what you are doing because you do a lot of it. Much Love
watched video because changing my wood storage to totes, have already subed. You reminded me of the day we took my daughters two show steers to cat., taking them off one at a time for weight, some of the looks we got were hilarious. Thanks Mike.
Enjoyed meeting you and hope to see you next year.
Thanks for taking the time to get the weight. That's some fun/good information to have.
Feed mills have scales a as well. Ours turns the display towards the window when they're closed so you don't even have the get out of the truck to see the reading. Its nice to know that without side extensions, it would be hard to overload my 6x10 dump trailer.
Great video! Since it was posted in 2018, I'm curious if you did weigh the same tote again after about 1 year of drying the wood? If so, what was the new weight? Much lower? About the same? Would love to know!
Thanx for the info MIke...... :)
So methodical Mike, Love it! Also love the truck I think we have the exact same model and year, they look identical. Nice work on the mission!
That splitter is hilarious to watch 4 years later. I have a Wolfe Ridge 35c now and you obviously have upped your splitters as well. I'm about to get a tractor and I remember you doing this video years ago. I was curious what the weight is on an IBC tote full of wood. The tractor I'm looking at (Kioti DJ4210SE) is rated to lift 2400 pounds so I should be good.
Thanks for the info, Mike! After watching your first two videos about these totes, I found a local place that deals in them and bought six of them. Looking forward to loading them up! Good to have an idea of how much they will weigh.
Please do the red oak wet / dry. I'm no where near disciplined enough to do something like that but would love to see the results.
If you don't have the scales in the area the dumps is another alternative. Good stuff buddy
Do you have fire wood moisture parameters ?
Prior to selling it for either camp fires or home stove use.
Is there a moisture level that would prohibit you from selling it ?
Do different woods demand different moisture levels for optimal b.t.u. Output ?
Great vid , keep up the much better than average quality.
That's more than i expected it to weigh and you are right my Massey gc1720 couldn't touch that .I really do like the tote idea , i had never thought of that but hey it works and very well i might add.
I liked that a lot and it was very informative thank you
So my one ton truck built to haul weighed 9,000lbs(wood) besides the 5,500lb truck. I weighed in the gravel pits 16,000 with truck and 1 1/4’ stone for my French drain. I put 72 leaf springs in my one ton truck. She had a 11,000lb rear axle.
I have the 275 gallon totes that I fill with ash and maple for personal use. I am not doing it commercially. Do you think I would get by with the t25 tractors or would you suggest stepping up into the 2515?
Oh man. My trailer is rated at 1600 lbs and I've been hauling twice that amount of wood when I head back home. I need a new trailer.
Another great video. Wish I lived closer to you. I whould get my wood from you. I pay 60-90 a face cord. 60 for soft wood and 90 for hard wood. Let's not talk about how much Ceader cost . Lol
Hey Mike. See if they will give you a boom pole to play with. It’s one thing I don’t think a lot of people know how to use, including me. Lol
That's a lot heavier than I expected. You motivated me to split wood today. It was way to damp to burn. I need to pickup some pallets to store my wood. Thanks
You can use a moisture meter with prongs for measuring moisture content in floor joist.
47 cubic feet of red oak wood at 20% moisture weighs 1974 pounds. Dry weight is 1580 pounds.
Flint Holbrook --- I concur! Growing up (in 1960's) I used 6000lbs. as the weight of fresh cut hardwood for a cord, 5500lbs. for semi dry (20-25% moisture) and 5000lbs. for dry (12-15% moisture)....according to my father and grandfather.
FreeRide --- Yes, correct.
A 50/50 mix of black cherry and red oak in the tote would weigh 1809 lb @ 20% moisture and 1448 lb dry. So, your tote weighed 1660 pounds either had a different mix of percentage of cherry vs. oak or had a different moisture content.
I wonder if the RK37 would lift it? I’m quite sure my L3301 couldn’t.
I will try it sometime, I think so
Thanks this was very helpful. Confirmed it's way out of the capability of my B2601 Kubota.
Just a comment on your splitting technique. Instead of flipping half the log over onto the "table" after your first push, keep the two halves of the log together, rotate it 90* and push again ( and again, if the log is wide enough). If you save at least one push on each log, it adds up when you do a whole cord.
Looks like the truck stop off of exit 99 on I79 stopped there many times while servicing rigs out 422 east
That Pilot truck stop where you scaled your wood tote looks familiar. Is that the one on I-70 south of Pittsburgh? Ohhhh, I'm a truck driver working for J.B. Hunt Transport.
No, New one off 79 North of Pittsburgh
Does it hold one face cord ? And can you dump it in your trailer for delivery without damaging the tote or do you transfer it by hand ?
Good info Thanks! for sharing.
You should set it to the side and let it dry and then weigh it again in a year.
I guess I spoke too soon. You finally mentioned it right at the end.
Hey MIke, Coming in late to this conversation but I have two questions: 1. Did you consider the gas used in driving over the two day span or did you fill up between? Gas at about 8 lbs a gallon may make a difference if you are looking for precision, but considering 1600 lbs, not likely that significant. 2. Did you ever reweigh the tote when dry? Thanks again
wow in pa its 92 and tomrrow 99 degrees to hot to mess with firewood stay in the air condtioning
Mike, you need to use a pick to handle the blocks. Sooo much easier !
Of course the Greener the wood the Heavier it wood be, I would think the weight would be between 900 and 1000 lbs 👍👊
Great video. Thanks.
Mike, I personally like when you number your videos. I’m OK either way. Keep em coming
Did you ever re-weigh after a year of drying? How much weight was dropped?
Mike could you try estimating the cubic ft of the smaller totes and estimate what the weight would be for that size, that would help out the compact owners
I was surprised that was a diesel truck and I liked it it was made by GM
Please use a moisture reading against the weight. In time we’ll get a seasoned weight and moisture level of the firewood.
I knew that a load like that was too much for my sub-compact (max of 700# for the high lift) but I am surprised that it's that much. I would have guessed closer to 1000. And I'd have been wrong.
Mike did you check the moisture content by chance? Be a good data point to record along with the weight.
Mark the tote if your going to reweigh in a year to make sure it’s the same wood. I was way off on the weight. I guessed 800lbs. It didn’t squat your f150 to bad. I’ll give your Ford that one.
Those totes are made to be stackable, could you make a video and see if cutting that side out compromised the structural integrity too much to stack the cages? Just don't fill them completely full so the rest on the metal part. If it fails it will fail to the cut side so it shouldn't be too dangerous if you stack them from the back side. Thanks it would be greatly appreciated!
How come you don't use a 4 way splitter?
Seems like a common request here but I am looking into a L3901 would love to know if it will lift that tote!
Mike, doesn't your wife do crossfit? I'm surprised she doesn't help split that wood with a maul. Best workout ever.
I reckon a THORS HAMMER STYLE LOG SPLITTER would be ideal for you to set on site . It's absolutely fantastic QUIET.
QUESTION:...didn't hear it mentioned, but maybe it was and I missed it....How much does the cage weigh, so we can deduct that from the weight?
More good information. Thank you.
Great video Mike - Keeping it fresh and informative
Paul Bunyan is a great time every year. I did see you and your wife but you guys had just grabbed some food and I didn't want to bother you. Next time I will lol.
Stay legal folks, wouldn't want to be illegal.
Oh well I tried, haha just came in to cool off been building a 150' zipline for the kids and got the notification
Said there were zero views , maybe next time. First time commenting
So you just pull on the scale and hit the button. Then go inside and get the slip. Is that all there is to using one of those scales? Is there a cost? I have been curious a couple times on what weight I was hauling but did not know that I could uses the scale at the gas station to check it. Never really gave it much thought really :-)
Informative video👍
I've used my local grain elevator scale to weigh my tractor.
Mike, so glad you posted another great video, as usual! I was going through Outdoors with the Morgan’s withdrawals. Was really digging the tunes. Think I’m finally going to pull the trigger on a RK 37 cab tomorrow. Ruptured Achilles’ tendon be damned. It’s been two months not walking and Doc says I can start with a walker Wednesday. We’ll see how it goes climbing up the tractor.
Yanmar SA424 subcompact lifts 1200lbs. Just don't fill the tote all the way up. Maybe just 2/3s.
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Mike you should try to reach out to a firewood processor company and see if they will give you a machine to use like what you’re doing with RK tractors. I know wranglestar (another RUclips’r) got a Dyna processor for free to try out.
That splitter needs another set of wedges! It's got plenty of capacity to split with four wedges. Check out Andrew Camarata's video for building a four way splitter wedge
Have you weighed this tote after the wood seasoned?
Thanks Mike, you saved me a lot of time. I was planning on doing this same weigh out this week. I'll be looking forward to your next video of the dry weight. 👍👍 I wish you and your family a very blessed and merry Christmas 🎄🎀
I have the 275 gallon totes that I fill for personal use. I am not doing it commercially. Do you think I would get by with the t25 tractors or would you suggest stepping up into the 2515?
Hey Tyson, I bought the Vermeer CTX -160 and I'm moving around the 275 and the 330 gallon IBC totes. I'm stacking them two high. My machine is about maxed out at 1600# work load. Those large totes full of green wood on soft ground, lm about doing wheelies. If you buy a smaller tractor 🤔 you my want to cut the tote in half horizontal. And take the top half of the tote and use 2 hole pipe straps to anchor to the a good wooden pallet. Thus making two smaller pallets. Then your smaller tractor can handle the weight. If you buy the Branson/TYM 2515R tractor with a 2200# capacity should handle the larger 330 with no problem at all. I hope that helps you.
Love the video's.
My 35 HP Kioti cant lift my firewood pallet, even with 3 point lift rear forks. I wonder what it will weigh after it seasons?
Just measure the moisture content and calculate the weight on a dry basis.
Good stuff enjoyed that
I sell fire wood from the kiln here in Scotland and i reckon after 5 days in the kiln that wood will lose 400 lbs easy
Should be in the 1100s after dropping the moisture content to 15-18% i reckon
How much wood fit's in the tote looks to be about a face cord