C8 Corvette Supercharger Comparison - Procharger Vs Lingenfelter Magnuson!

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  • Опубликовано: 19 июн 2024
  • Looking to supercharge your C8 Corvette? In this video, we dive into the comparison between two top contenders: the ProCharger and Lingenfelter Magnuson Supercharger kits.
    Join us as we explore the performance, advantages, and key features of each kit, helping you make an informed decision for your C8 Corvette.
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  • @shamarrankins3676
    @shamarrankins3676 2 месяца назад +8

    100 percent lingenfelter years of experience

  • @dynamicforged
    @dynamicforged 3 месяца назад +18

    great review. Next up, please line up the maggy, procharger and z06 for some runs

    • @08turboSS
      @08turboSS Месяц назад

      Z0 will get smoked because its all top end and has barely more torque than a base C8.

    • @ronp5746
      @ronp5746 Месяц назад

      I have the maggie on my z51 and can smoke the c8 z06s

  • @TheWityful
    @TheWityful 3 месяца назад +24

    Hopefully these go down in price by the time my warranty expires. 10-15k sounds more reasonable for me

    • @finwaydiddy1977
      @finwaydiddy1977 3 месяца назад +2

      I agree. And some guys are saying the procharger have heating issues and it takes up all of the little trunk you do have. If you go procharger you are better off just eliminating your trunk. GM should have done this instead of worrying about stupid golf clubs fitting.

    • @TheWityful
      @TheWityful 3 месяца назад

      @@finwaydiddy1977 yeah they could’ve made the rear end of the vette look better imo. If they wanted to tap into a new market with the c8, they should have gotten rid of the golf club requirement

    • @Forever.Remain.Nameless
      @Forever.Remain.Nameless 3 месяца назад +5

      ​@@finwaydiddy1977the 3 yr vs 1 yr warranty is all the difference I needed to hear....

    • @finwaydiddy1977
      @finwaydiddy1977 3 месяца назад +1

      @@Forever.Remain.Nameless trust me… I doubt you will use your warranty. Had a Maggie before and a Edelbrock and never had any issues. When to the track every weekend. But, this was on my C6 and C7 so maybe the C8 maybe be different.

    • @Highlander1432
      @Highlander1432 3 месяца назад +2

      I've had the Magnuson Heartbeat kit on my 2016 Camaro for 6 years and almost 50k miles.
      Zero issues
      Procharger makes a decent kit but definitely will not have same reliability as Magnuson

  • @ralphhall9434
    @ralphhall9434 3 месяца назад +8

    Good to know the price point all of other companies don't like to mention that part of it.

  • @brentcollins9727
    @brentcollins9727 Месяц назад +2

    I’d go with the Lingefelter. I have a Pro Charger on my street C5 and by the time it really kicks in at 4,000 RPM I’m already doing crazy speeds. I don’t want to get thrown in jail. So I hardly can even come close to redlining it. I’d rather be able to tap into the power much sooner and feel like I’m getting my money’s worth.

  • @larrynewberry3500
    @larrynewberry3500 3 месяца назад +1

    Graet video again, guys. Graet explanations for those not knowing the differences. 👍👍

  • @torque-ej4nu
    @torque-ej4nu 3 месяца назад +12

    For 25k i wanna break into the 1500 hp range.

    • @raulsanchezjr4048
      @raulsanchezjr4048 2 месяца назад

      100%

    • @BIGGELATO
      @BIGGELATO Месяц назад +6

      Not realistic... 1500HP will require everything to be beefed up, costing well over 60k, if not more. So 25k for a reliable build on a stock motor, rather than a full on build with 1500HP, now we're talking different purposes. There are levels to this s**t brotha

    • @1gbayfisher
      @1gbayfisher 17 дней назад +1

      ​@@BIGGELATOwell said!

  • @TroppoSalato
    @TroppoSalato 3 месяца назад +7

    Would love to see Vbox data of the pro charger, supercharger, TT and z06 for comparison.

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  3 месяца назад +1

      What track? Would be fun to do some more track testing!

    • @bradmason8334
      @bradmason8334 3 месяца назад +1

      Exactly… that would guide my dollars being spent

  • @rod3134
    @rod3134 3 месяца назад +4

    Excellent review 👏 ❤

  • @davidhaney2338
    @davidhaney2338 3 месяца назад +3

    Nice video but I disagree with the mag as more of a daily driver. If you have the factory zo6 set up then yes. However in my opinion as for aftermarket supercharger set ups as a daily, pro charger hands down. If you stay under boost you are relatively going to have a stock feel and miles per gallon. With the pro charger at least on my camaro boost doesn’t start kicking in till you’re in the 3k to mid 3k rpm’s and power stays linear till red line. With the mag the power is instant, kills gas mileage and power falls off at higher rpm. For that reason I went with pro charger and couldn’t be happier. The pro charger has the best of both worlds for daily driver and drag strip use. Also sounds like a F-14 with the uncut gears and big red bypass valve. To each is own though.

  • @SoloStix
    @SoloStix 3 месяца назад +2

    Ill take the pro charged one, sounds eay better.

  • @Silentprofessional1
    @Silentprofessional1 2 месяца назад +1

    Would be nice if we could grab some cold air from outside of the engine compartment on the procharger side.

  • @richarddjohanson
    @richarddjohanson 3 месяца назад +1

    Waiting for aftermarket OEM
    replacement performance filters.

  • @JDeubel
    @JDeubel 3 месяца назад +3

    No, we all want to see a side-by-side comparison 8 Mile quarter mile, half mile, and mile. also we want to see road course times and side-by-side Roll Racing times from a dig a 20, 30, 60, and 80 roll racing side-side!

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  3 месяца назад

      We'd be thrilled to offer all that information too, but the logistics of doing so with our limited staff are challenging. However, we're aiming to provide more quarter-mile time data this year.
      - Justin

  • @Bboyy333
    @Bboyy333 3 месяца назад +2

    Excellent! Was waiting for this video to decide between the Procharger and Magnuson Supercharger. Procharger it is for me.Might be a dumb question but would appreciate a response.
    Is it possible to have you guys fit the Procharger Supercharger and the Eventuri Intake on my 2024 C8 Stingray Convertible (HTC)? I don't care about trunk space.

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  3 месяца назад +1

      It isn't possible to do the Procharger with an Eventuri Intake. The Procharger Supercharger has it's own custom intake.

    • @Bboyy333
      @Bboyy333 3 месяца назад

      @@ParagonPerformance Thanks for the response. Can the Magnuson Supercharger be installed without removing the engine?

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  3 месяца назад +1

      @@Bboyy333 For the Magnuson the engine has to come out.

  • @maximus2387
    @maximus2387 3 месяца назад +2

    Thank you very much for these specs and videos. It was long anticipated. You guys are really helping me to make a decision on whether to go with a Twin Turbo setup or The Procharger kit. So far, I am leaning more towards the Twin Turbo setup. But, we will see. I am in line for an E-Ray and I know that car will beat a lot competition out there with a Twin Turbo setup on the LT2 engine. The Z06 is an awesome car, but you really can't go that far with mods on it for boost.
    I am curious about something! Can you install The Eventuri CAI on both the Coupe and HTC with The Procharger & Lingenfelter Supercharger Kits?
    I appreciate you guys and thanks again for those dyno #'s.

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  3 месяца назад +1

      Glad we can be of help ! We may also be testing a twin turbo setup here in the near future so we can offer tuning and installs of that setup as well!
      The Eventuri intake won’t fit either of the setups.

    • @maximus2387
      @maximus2387 3 месяца назад

      @@ParagonPerformance I appreciate you guys. I am very eager to see what those #'s will look like on a Twin Turbo setup.
      Btw, I will be going with the Twin Turbo setup since the Eventuri CAI won't fit on both of those setups.
      Imo, Eventuri makes the best cai with the most gains on the market.

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  3 месяца назад

      @@maximus2387 The Eventuri won’t fit any twin turbo setups either just a heads up. Most setups the intercooler goes where the OEM intake sits.

    • @maximus2387
      @maximus2387 3 месяца назад

      @@ParagonPerformance Awe man! Thank you for the heads-up on that. I guess you can't have your cake and eat it too!

  • @CatNMrDJ
    @CatNMrDJ 3 месяца назад +4

    For an HTC, I believe it will have to be your new Procharger kit for it. Now, add that to an HTC E-Ray, and she will be kicking ZR1s in the BUTT.

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  3 месяца назад +3

      The Procharger and Lingenfelter Magnuson kit both fit HTCs, either option on an E-Ray would be a Z06 Killer. As for as the Zr1, we will see what power level those are at!

    • @CatNMrDJ
      @CatNMrDJ 3 месяца назад +3

      @@ParagonPerformance Kool Beans...but I still say, with her AWD instant traction while the 850 or so hp ZR1 will be spinning his wheels. Sorta like the new 1.66 sec Dodge that is BS because all it does is spin its wheels. Nonetheless, you guys are Awesome in all the products you make.

    • @superchargederay
      @superchargederay 3 месяца назад +6

      Someone is talking my language with a supercharged eRay 😉

    • @CatNMrDJ
      @CatNMrDJ 3 месяца назад

      @@superchargederay Yes Sir 😎

  • @dave5833
    @dave5833 2 месяца назад

    I have a Procharger on my LS3 makes an easy WHP 650 all day long.

  • @ricoe3288
    @ricoe3288 3 месяца назад +3

    Price must be mostly for labor because those are probably 7,000 dollar superchargers at best😂...these Covid-19 prices will never go away 😢.

    • @boostedperformance_
      @boostedperformance_ 3 месяца назад +2

      Yeah, the whole drivetrain has to be dropped to do the install so there's a lot of labor there. Then there is a bit more complexity to the kits and the components needed to handle fitting an S/C in this engine bay as well as handle the cooling.

  • @ganymede3141
    @ganymede3141 Месяц назад

    How did you get center exhausts on a Stingray? They have the exhaust tips on the sides. Is it a custom bumper?

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  Месяц назад

      It's an OEM bumper with a new OEM center exit rear valance. We have a full kit here.
      www.paragonperf.com/paragon-c8-corvette-center-exit-exhaust-conversion.html

  • @rjdmmfl1
    @rjdmmfl1 2 месяца назад +2

    Is that a Z06 rear bumper on a stingray?

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  2 месяца назад

      Sure is!
      www.paragonperf.com/c8-corvette-stingray-to-z06-rear-bumper-conversion-kit-.html

  • @orjan-j2881
    @orjan-j2881 3 месяца назад +36

    Price is too much , doesn’t make sense to buy a C8 and buy a super charger . Usually the after market makes sense because it’s cheaper than buying a faster car but in this case I’d rather get a faster car from the manufacturer

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  3 месяца назад +19

      Forced Induction C8 Stingrays are faster than a C8 Z06 😉

    • @michaelwoods3850
      @michaelwoods3850 3 месяца назад +2

      Build not bought

    • @bradmason8334
      @bradmason8334 3 месяца назад +3

      @@ParagonPerformancewhere’s the video?

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  3 месяца назад +4

      @@bradmason8334 just have to trust us

    • @kyoakland
      @kyoakland 2 месяца назад +3

      ​@@ParagonPerformance I believe it

  • @corystansbury
    @corystansbury 3 месяца назад

    You can tell that 2650 is just barely coming on the map at such a low boost level. Gotta say that at the low boost levels we have here, I'd definitely lean heads/cam with something mild, a la BTR 220. If going boosted, I'd be doing hairdryers for these prices.

    • @highlanderc
      @highlanderc 3 месяца назад

      2650 will provide whatever you want to throw at it! You just need more accompanying mods.

  • @mcrandrz1991
    @mcrandrz1991 3 месяца назад +1

    The broken intake manifold cover on the procharger kit sticks out like a sore thumb to me. Exact same thing happened to my intake cover ):

    • @kurtthomas4746
      @kurtthomas4746 3 месяца назад

      Good catch, I didn’t notice that, but my 1st cover broke the same way also, they did replace it and 2nd one has been fine. Curious how you like yours.

    • @mcrandrz1991
      @mcrandrz1991 3 месяца назад

      Love my procharger. It's been 10k miles on now, didn't consider calling them for a replacement I just took it off. It made my c8 the most fun car I've owned hands down

    • @kurtthomas4746
      @kurtthomas4746 3 месяца назад

      Great, I like mine too. Happy driving!

  • @vertisjohnson219
    @vertisjohnson219 3 месяца назад +1

    Anything for a Cali car?

  • @MovieMuscle
    @MovieMuscle 3 месяца назад +8

    Plain and simple, the pricing is prohibitive for what you get. The FI forums are dead. For all the C8's out there, a minuscule amount are doing any kind of forced induction. With about 130,000 or more C8's out there, we should be seeing a bunch being modded. People just aren't into it for the price tag. Then there is the poor roll performance issue. Spending a ton just to get to a so so 60-130 pull.

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  3 месяца назад +1

      We do agree that FI is expensive on this platform but unfortunately it isn't as simple as the older models. We hope in the following years pricing comes down on kits so more can get into the aftermarket performance. While it is pricey, once you drive a FI C8 Corvette you realize the cost is worth the enjoyment.
      - Justin

    • @ronp5746
      @ronp5746 Месяц назад +1

      I am into it - I have the maggie - and having the time of my life

  • @Fk8td
    @Fk8td Месяц назад

    I’d go pro charger because you can easily pulley down and easier on the engine as low end torque beats up engines

  • @MecheGT
    @MecheGT 2 месяца назад

    Its a great kit, but $22k without installation and support mods would be $25-27,000 new C8 plus $27k is Z06 price rate, and you get the 600+ without the headache

  • @ATI_117
    @ATI_117 День назад

    Can you do this in California?

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  День назад +1

      You can but it’s probably not legal.
      Not CARB certified yet.

  • @JohnWilliamsGTS
    @JohnWilliamsGTS 3 месяца назад +2

    Pretty pitiful power from the ligenfelter. I'm making 785hp at the wheels with a LSA Engine. Still have the 1900 LSA supercharger and Factory bottom end and still 376 ci.

  • @davidciesielski8251
    @davidciesielski8251 3 месяца назад

    So the intercooler bricks are the same size and the charge air temp is the same on the second lap? I feel this is quite a disservice to anyone on the planet earth. (remember you said on the track)

  • @johngatsby1473
    @johngatsby1473 2 месяца назад

    Does procharger offer an f1x kit for the c8?

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  2 месяца назад

      As far as we know the D1X is the largest head unit that fits the bracket in this kit.

  • @JorgeRodriguez-gc1or
    @JorgeRodriguez-gc1or Месяц назад

    C6Z h/c end of story

  • @csankimonkey
    @csankimonkey 3 месяца назад

    DO A SOUND COMPARISON !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  3 месяца назад

      We have two great videos of the raw sounds of each system.
      Lingenfelter Magnuson Raw Sounds
      ruclips.net/video/UgSV9fZ3Ags/видео.html
      Procharger Supercharger Raw Sounds
      ruclips.net/video/tGwNpZoIvT8/видео.html

  • @08turboSS
    @08turboSS Месяц назад

    8-11k for a SC installed is realistic.

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  Месяц назад

      Lingenfelters System includes install price.
      Procharger is about $2000 only for install.

  • @markymark959
    @markymark959 3 месяца назад +8

    25k for another 100 hp is not worth it

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  3 месяца назад +1

      170whp increase for the Magnuson 220whp increase for the Procharger

    • @TysonKyle88
      @TysonKyle88 3 месяца назад

      lol

  • @Gargamoth
    @Gargamoth Месяц назад

    Not being a mechanic, I must say, 3 year /36000 miles is not a great warranty for a car.
    Maybe, maybe it's good for racing, but for a car you may want to use everyday, it's not.
    #Chevrolet
    #Chevy

  • @joshuagarcia9868
    @joshuagarcia9868 2 месяца назад

    Bro 600 hp!? Wtf doesn't everything make 600hp stock nowadays?

  • @2023C8HTC
    @2023C8HTC 3 месяца назад +4

    Too much money
    The N/A car you did with heads cam headers makes almost as much power probably has more drivability for half the cost

    • @Highlander1432
      @Highlander1432 3 месяца назад

      NA is the way to go if you have access to E85
      Just bolt ons/E85 will give a big bump in power for just a few thousand dollars

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  3 месяца назад

      A Heads and Cam package with full bolt-ons & E-85/Flex Fuel would be anywhere between $16-23.5K(depending on mods) + $3500 for install for about 570whp.
      While a cam offers a unique sound, both forced induction kits offer more power for similar pricing.
      We are just glad to offer many options for our customers.
      - Justin

  • @davidhiggins7026
    @davidhiggins7026 3 месяца назад +2

    Spot the difference:
    The Procharger High Output Intercooled System with P-1SC-1 (satin finish) kit for the C8 Corvette is $19,999.
    The Procharger High Output Intercooled System with P-1SC-1 (satin finish) kit for the C7 Corvette is $7,199.
    Did you notice? Notice how the C8 Corvette owners are being taken advantage of, how I consider they are being taken for mugs. There is no excuse for it.
    IF you PAY IT, they will CHARGE IT, all day long they will.
    So what COSTS an extra $12,800 between the two systems? It doesn't does it. The $$$difference is what Procharger think folks with C8 Corvettes will be daft enough to pay.
    When the Procharger unit for the C8 Corvette is similar in price to the C7 Corvette then it'd likely be worth getting, until then both of these different Supercharger systems are far too expensive.
    Especially the Lingenfelter, at (starting from!) $25k. Yea, PLUS the US State sales tax, an average of around 8% across the US Nation. So another $2k on top.
    PLUS of cause, if needed, as many would be, the FITTING costs*, with State sales tax on top of that. We are told the C8 LT2 engine has to come out when fitting the Lingenfelter kit. Even more fitting costs then.
    For the time being having checked out the costs I would avoid getting either Supercharger kits.
    How is a C8 Corvette in the first place not fast enough anyway? Within 3.5 secs or less exceeding the National speed limit.
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    * The Lingenfelter MAGNUSON TVS2650 Chevrolet C8 Corvette DI 700 Horsepower Supercharger Package, we are told "is ONLY sold as an installed program". To be fitted BY Lighenfelter OR an authorised installer.
    NO CLARIFICATION whether or not the $25k kit cost includes fitting, of cause if it was surely THIS would be prominently mentioned on the Ligenfelter website.
    Currently then, clouded in obfuscation and I suspect a more realistic $30k+ price tag.
    I would avoid both packages.

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  3 месяца назад +1

      There are many differences between the C7 and C8 kits besides the price. The C8 System includes an intake manifold with a built in air to water intercooler. That system also needs an additional pump, a radiator, wiring and plumbing. On top of that the brackets and shaft are more complex on the C8 than the C7.
      The Lingenfelter Magnuson Kit includes the installation so there would be no additional costs for dropping the engine or any of the fitting of the parts.

    • @Goczku
      @Goczku 3 месяца назад

      Bro for 20k+ $ i have 1000hp c7 z06

    • @darksu6947
      @darksu6947 2 месяца назад

      Do you think they had a little wizard tucked away at the supercharger factory, waving his arms around, casting spells all over the place? They have to pay the engineers to come up with a specifically designed setup for the C8's newly developed engine. Then you have to figure out how to make the casting dyes for every single part because it's an entirely different engine. Do you have any idea how much just the tooling would end up costing the wizards at the supercharger factory? I have a slightly educated guess what the price might be because I worked in an aluminum foundry for a while in my early twenties while consuming large amounts of varying substances. It blew my mind when I found out how much the casting dye was for a Honda push mower transmission cover/heatsink of which I was the only person in the entire company that was capable and intelligent enough to pass Honda's certification to produce those parts.......I was doing more dope than you could shake a stick at so how I managed to pass that certification is one of the mysteries of the universe that may never be solved 😂

  • @Cars-N-Jets
    @Cars-N-Jets 3 месяца назад

    Wanna race?😂

    • @ParagonPerformance
      @ParagonPerformance  3 месяца назад +2

      On a private track sure, we don't condone any reckless behavior on the streets.

    • @dynamicforged
      @dynamicforged 3 месяца назад +3

      he meant in Mexico
      @@ParagonPerformance

    • @Cars-N-Jets
      @Cars-N-Jets 3 месяца назад

      @@ParagonPerformanceRunway

    • @Cars-N-Jets
      @Cars-N-Jets 3 месяца назад

      @@dynamicforgedNah. Groom Lake Runway aka Area 51.

  • @ARXDMOS
    @ARXDMOS 3 месяца назад +1

    For 25k and still runs a garbage 80-120. No thanks. Im keeping my c8 stock until this gets figured out. The cost benefits ratio on the c8 are atrocious. Although my c8 is a great stock car, My ess supercharged mustang with no other support mods runs circles around the c8 on the street

    • @boostedperformance_
      @boostedperformance_ 3 месяца назад

      Yeah - unfortunately it is a pretty complex platform to mod with the engine being mid mounted. A lot of the cost is labor but there is quite a bit that goes into the mechanical components as well. I think costs may come down some with time but it is not a great platform to mod for anyone on modest budget or where budget is not an issue but you still want a good bang for the buck. However, if you love these cars and want more power, these kit will do it and make the cars a lot more fun to drive. So far, everyone who's done has been really happy in the end but most of them aren't looking for raw performance or x to xx times. There are better platforms for that for sure.

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    @Dingda.youtube 3 месяца назад

    Hello sir, I am a manufacturer of car navigation screens. We have currently developed the Corvette C6 screen and have tested it on vehicles in China, and the situation is very good. But I am concerned that there may be differences in some parts of overseas cars, so I would like to install and test them overseas. For this product, we currently offer a very favorable price. Would you be interested in joining us and helping us provide feedback on its situation?

  • @Goczku
    @Goczku 3 месяца назад +1

    20k $ its totally overpriced mod

  • @SoloStix
    @SoloStix 3 месяца назад

    25k for that $2k supercharger installed is nuts lol

  • @TysonKyle88
    @TysonKyle88 3 месяца назад +7

    Both way overpriced for what they are.

  • @Nunyabznis
    @Nunyabznis 2 месяца назад

    Who the hell would pay that much money for a car and upgrade and be nowhere near 1000hp. Weak

  • @SoloStix
    @SoloStix 3 месяца назад

    Thise magnusons are everywhere and basic as hell

    • @TysonKyle88
      @TysonKyle88 3 месяца назад

      exactly, taking advantage of people.

  • @raulsanchezjr4048
    @raulsanchezjr4048 2 месяца назад

    This is not correct as I've seen C8s with roots type blowers making 700-750hp this guy's just wants you to buy the centrifugal style blower which is garbage in my opinion!