@@shadowstrider5033 it's more valid in the past versions, especially morrowind with all it's diseases. Take a short cut through a swamp just to end up stuck in the middle of it over encumbered wandering wtf? Yep u need to cure your new disease then restore your lost status points. Especially annoying when you don't realise that you have a problem until your stuck out in the middle of nowhere with no mana.
Probably some sort of quirk in AI friendly fire behavior when werewolves are present. Every moment with a non-hostile Werewolf in-game is heavily scripted.
@Cinder Man the fight takes place during a lower level scaling. The dark brotherhood initiates along cicerro I believe have the highest scaling in the game at uncapped or around 50ish, so this fight may change depending on the level. Then again, they would be stronger and fighting stronger spells so it might stay the same anyway.
Bro, I just started replaying the game again, I swear like four dragons have attacked the college, two of them Elder Dragons. They ain't *shit* with the entire College at my back
At first I would've guessed that the brotherhood wins but as soon as I saw that the college members were spawning attronachs, I knew the DB would lose because the AI almost always prioritizes attacking summons instead of the summoner.
Instead of a 9 v 9 it was effectively a 13 v 9 with the summons. I would have favored the magicians in an open battlefield as the DB are more specialized in the art of stealth and assassination.
@@Raxxinate I'd like to see this encounter set up as an ambush. The mages have every advantage in an open field / fair fight like this, but what if the mages were all sleeping in a campsite when the brotherhood attacked?
I remember my first time trying him out as a follower and he did the crazy onehanded kill animation on a dragon and from that day on he's my second favorite after vampire goth gf
This would be over a lot faster if every member of the brotherhood had that 500 damage poison coating their weapon.... Or got a free 12x hit with there dagger at the start of the fight...
Round Starts Flame atronach joined the server Flame atronach joined the server Flame atronach joined the server Astrid went up in flames Astrid: i hired the mages guild to execute this contract.
Yeah but like many things in Skyrim, they don't give them the proper stats and level to reflect how strong they should be (Falion being a great example). I think Urag is stuck at lvl 4 or something dumb like that.
In the older games of the Elder Scrolls, when there is a serious threat, Empire always sends their battlemages to storm that place. Mages are truly insane
Makes sense, a thief archetype build is usually built on stealth and sneak attack bonuses, while a pure mage is a glass cannon. In an open fight, the DB is going to get wrecked every time.
Well no shit, when have you ever seen 12 assassins run at their contracts and expect to actually pull off the kill... assassination needs stealth, so maybe instead of this open battlefield bullshit, the DB should be hitting the College at night. See how the Mages fare when they aren't grouped up and can support each other with various schools of magic.
in TES pure mages aren't glass canons because they have all 6 schools of magic at their disposals pure mages are nightmares in combat because using illusion they have perfect stealth mysticism means you cannot hide from them they see you sneaking they see you if you're invisible using restoration they can take your life and ability to use weapons and be immune to poison reflect magic damage and basically anything bad.
@@saiyanfang1047 Now I'm thinking my last pure mage playthrough, where my OP mage kept getting one shot by bears that came out of the forest like a heat seeking missile.
@@publiusdos5925 in Skyrim mages are shit because it's Skyrim despite what they say Tolfdir is pretty shitty at magic compared to Alteration experts of third era Cyrodiil and Morrowind, Neloth even goes far enough to say that Savos Aren wasn't good enough to be an apprentice. pre skyrim mage armor was a real thing as actual armor like a full set of Daedric that weighs nothing
In my game he attacks me by punching me or grabbing some weapon, and then start using Stoneflesh and Fast Healing (clearly someone joined the wrong faction)
@@madysalty5294 if it was novice difficulty then it's obviously easy , tho on master and legend it'll leave a bit of ... Hell , 3000 septims not worth it.
I find it fitting that the two of four last assassins to be ruthlessly burned were the wife and husband, and Arnbjorn literally saw Astrid’s flaming corpse be flung across his field of view before he was shot down too
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Yeah. Conjuration basically acted as a way to soak attacks and get more attacks in. Also not a single one of them was a bow specialist so you also saw the DB needing to cover distance before they could do damage. The terms of the match favored Winterhold.
Yup - destruction magic scales poorly compared to hand weapons that are fully boosted by smithing/enchanting/alchemy, *none* of which are a factor for NPCs. If DB were equipped to dual wield and had two weapons in their inventory, this would have been closer, but it's hard to catch up to mages firing frost spells on open ground with unlimited room to retreat when you are wearing useless armor. And the ability to focus fire from distance AND the fact that mages often are already unleashing an ice bolt when somebody takes a knee at low health. Pretty sure I saw the DB fail to finish somebody who then got up and started firing spells again - a disengagement that disproportionately favors ranged combatants. Really, there's absolutely no reason to expect the DB to have a snowflake's chance in hell in a fight like this. Not a lot of armies have detachments of soldiers wearing light armor and weilding single daggers. HTH DPS losing to Ranged DPS in an open, large-scale skirmish is no surprise whatsoever 😄
Stacked _against_ mages? Idk, my guy. 2x Storm Atronachs, yeeting Frenzy into some enemies and spamming Chain Lightning (becuase Storm Bois are immune) is _pretty OP._ Then again, the master Conjuration trainer (Phineas Gestor?) only summoned a Flame Atronach. 🤷♂️ Edit: Other commenters say Savos Aren is supposed to summon a Dremora Lord, so that's a big fat Yikes for the DB. 😭
@@henryviiifake8244 Yea but the higher the level the more nerfed magic gets, so once you can use master level spells with a level 30 character the magic is weaker then a level 30 bandit because a spell used by a master level wizard deals the same damage has a level 1 wizard. The only reason they won was because of heals/ice and ai going after atronachs. There's so much stuff that hardcore nerfs magic in this game. The only two exceptions are the high mage who has special stats and can beat most characters one on one. Or dragons at the college because the mages fire so many ranged attacks before the dragon ai can even find a angle to land or blast from. Now if magic didn't have a stagnant damage rate, and leveled with the character then you would be 100% right.
@@logandenton6467 Magic is still very easily viable at lvl 30, hell even at lvl 50 it is, adept and expert spells with one of the 3 masks of dragonborn's dragon priest can deal 90 damage for adept or 135 damage for expert. That is still incredibly powerful, not as much as a fully upgraded weapon of your choice maybe, but just the fact you can have only 1 skill tree at 100 and not 3 just to deal damage is very good
This is like the Deadliest Warrior episode with ninja vs spartan. The Brotherhood wouldn't engage in open combat on an open field. They would sneak into the college and use their stealth skills to murder everyone in their sleep.
Exact words by that ninja team guy in that episode and i think its true why would a ninja or in thus case an assassin ever have an open fight when their speciality is stealth itself.
@@bertmacklin7483 I mean, you can always argue it's a case of "both sides are caught unaware of each other" or "assassins really should be able to fight in these conditions to some degree because at some point they're going to get caught and running away won't be an option."
The issue with that is Ninjas irl weren't as badass as we make them out to be. The Spartans would absolutely beat ninjas and no the idea of a ninja running around a spartan camp killing them "stealthily" is incredibly unrealistic. At the end of the day there's always a bigger fish, and Ninjas just aren't anywhere near biggest fish. They're badass, but mainly because they were impoverished farmers who used guerilla tactics to resist oppressive dynamos who sent heavily armored soldiers to raid their villages. But as cool as that is it'd be ridiculous to think they could beat Spartans in any sort of combat, even utilizing guerilla tactics.
I don’t think it’s a question. The college immediately has a numbers advantage. The brotherhood doesn’t have the ai to sneak, and realistically speaking there’s nowhere to hide. If the brotherhood locks onto antronoks (forgive if it’s spelled wrong) then they’re seriously screwed. Mages are probably the most overpowered when it comes to NPC wars.
College FTW duh.They have everything. They can go invisible, can create mayhem make the Assassins kill each other, can calms the Dark Brotherhood should they got angry, can detect life should the enemy go invisible, can paralyze, can revive the fallen assassin to fight against their living friends. They didn't use all those options in this fight but ... Don't mess with the proffessors. Whenever I play this game, I always go for mages. Versatility. It is different if the Brotherhood is on a mission to kill them. They will go one by one, and will suceed.
@@AncientSavant7572 Agree. I use Destruction only for fun, because other schools are too strong! *Illusion* will make even the angriest bandits, giants, vampire, bears, automatons, falmers, etc my best friend, and I can even make them kill each other. *Conjuration* can raise two Master Vampires or Arch Necromancers as my slaves, which is overkill since both of them can raise armies as well. *Alteration* made me basically a magic tank, if we combine the Atronach Perk and Atronach Stone, plus I can do Mass Paralysis, which is crazy strong. Fighting undeads using *Restoration* is overkill. I usually pursue Draugr Deathlord, Draugr Wight, Draugr Scourge, Master Vampire, etc, because my spell Circel of Protection. And there are *Echanting and Alchemy,* that can make my character have millions of HP and Magicka, or even damage! Too versatile!
What was missing from this fight was the stealth element. 1v1s where the assassins got the first hit in, or better yet: ruclips.net/video/hTyNGVTZf8I/видео.html
What a cool concept for a Skyrim video! I appreciate your passion and camera skills alot, too. I want more! I think the College of Winterhold can win against the Companions but it would be a tougher fight. I'm still going to check out your other vids but it would be cool to have different battle areas/locations that benefit the factions' expertise, as well as a more neutral location. The assassins had no chance in this icy plain. They were lacking different levels of height and shadow :)
Don’t forget the boss J’Zargo wasn’t there too. As we All know J’Zargo scales to the Db. And he has All kind of spells. He’s a badass. And also vampires are killable in skyrim, erasing any Trace of their existence was my favorite thing to so in the game 😬☺️ as i deeply despise even the very idea of a vampire
The mages has the vantage. When they summon the atronach, the assassins go attack them while the mages kepp distance and attack with magic. Besides, even when the assassins attack directly, the mages can heal themselves.
I ache because I love this video so much. Please do more. Thank you for such a clear video and choosing a landscape not obscured by trees. Two wish lists: a few more close-up shots and a roster of who is still alive at the end. But they are super minor. I still think this is such a great battle video of our beloved skyrim peeps.
That epic moment when Faralda was tanking Arnbjorn and the iniciate, while the artillery were bombarding them from behind trying to help was amazing. Arnbjorn had Faralda !! one more strike and she's dead, but the electricity and fire were too much powerful to continue the fight.
Because assassins are stealthy, if they were able to play like a player the mages would've actually had a harder time, but what do I know I'm just using my brain yet the mages are too stubborn to use their brain
This was a lot of fun 😂 Knowing what we know about Skyrim NPC AI, the outcome is absolutely no surprise but it's still fun to watch the large-scale faction battle.
College of Winterhold is badasss... All these skyrim videos popping up suddenly is making me miss this game. Can't believe it is already years since it first came out !
A lot of dark brotherhood strength would be in their ability to sneak and get the first hit or two. This video doesn't account for the environment that is being used and how it may effect the battle as a whole. That being said I do love the video and support you to make this one and many more. Thank you:)
I would love to see more videos of every faction versus each one and then do an ultimate count down to the best factikn strength wise. But this a great idea for a series in my opinion! 🤙
Please do more of these! They will make you blow up! Do college vs companions, thieves guild vs DB, imperials vs stormcloaks with general tullius and Ulfric, you can also do how many blades to beat a dragon and dremora vs dragons and there are just so many possibilites!!!
Man, Fallout & Skyrim is just one of the best games for NPC wars The animation looks cool The combat system is good too The factions, not bad Weapons not bad Armors looking good And most of all *It's eazy enough to make one NPC war scenario*
The reason they use stealth is because they fucking suck ass in any sort of fair combat LOL as shown in this video. Unless they literally have the drop on somebody with a 400% crit chance bonus they aren't killing shit.
@@renaldoawes2210 that's like saying a mage sucks ass because they can't accomplish anything with out their magic.... Just add a coating of that super poison the brotherhood makes to all there weapons and see how well the mages fair.
@@danielgibson3422 No it's not. Magic is a tool not a situation. I never took the Dark Brotherhood's weapons from them. But this argument of "well they're stronger if they jump you by surprise and therefore they're stronger" is ridiculous.
@@renaldoawes2210 stealth in game is also a tool well used by the player in game that offers a tangible bonus. Even if you want to ignore that then at the very least they should be given the best poisons considering that is literally just a tool.
@@danielgibson3422 Stealth isn't a tool stealth is a tactic. A tool is a physical item while stealth is a skill based tactic. It's like if you were to compare armed forces. Let's just say US soldiers vs Russian. But then you unfairly gave the Russians an ambush position and put the US forces completely out of position. That would be an awful way to compare them. If we are going to give the assassins stealth then we have to give the mages something in return. All the mages would have to do is cast detect life and now the assassins have to fight a straight up fight, which brings us full circle where we can clearly see they are incapable of winning. I grant you if the assassins had better gear they probably would have won, but the mages could also be given stronger spells. Blame Bethesda for that one, not the video creator. He set up the most fair fight possible and the assassins got rocked. Personally? I expected them to massacre the mages because Magic is really weak in Skyrim compared to melee but I wasn't expecting the assassins to be that weak lmao.
Great fun, but quite hard to tell what's happening and the results unless you're very familiar. Some commentary or visual cue about who won each round would help enormously.
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Restoration is a Perfely valid school of magic and don't let anyone tell you anything else
*otherwise
It's the only school of magic all my characters have seen a common use of.
But fire
@@mr.potato2223 Fiery exploding doggo.
@@shadowstrider5033 it's more valid in the past versions, especially morrowind with all it's diseases. Take a short cut through a swamp just to end up stuck in the middle of it over encumbered wandering wtf? Yep u need to cure your new disease then restore your lost status points. Especially annoying when you don't realise that you have a problem until your stuck out in the middle of nowhere with no mana.
Why won't the werewolf husband become a goddamn werewolf
Hell yes, first question I had.. DB would still get stomped tho..
Probably some sort of quirk in AI friendly fire behavior when werewolves are present. Every moment with a non-hostile Werewolf in-game is heavily scripted.
The transformation takes hours. More than enough time to some smart mage shot a fireball.
For the same reason that the mages doesn't use mayem, conjure dremora or Ebony flesh I guess
@Cinder Man the fight takes place during a lower level scaling. The dark brotherhood initiates along cicerro I believe have the highest scaling in the game at uncapped or around 50ish, so this fight may change depending on the level. Then again, they would be stronger and fighting stronger spells so it might stay the same anyway.
I like the choice of battlefield
Cheers, It's Located In The Forgotten Vale, Northwest Of The Solitude Mountains. Part of The Dawnguard DLC.
Same! Totally awesome.
Best location, if you have not done this I dont want to spoil it. All I'll say is theres twins waiting for you there
@@alexmiotke8016 not technically twins but yeah
@@alexmiotke8016 twins? Um... Twins generous NPC ? 😅
Of course the DB was going to get wrecked. We've all seen what happens when that dragon attacks the college 🤣
"You flew into the wrong house fool!"
@@Johnny-rx4hs 🤣🤣 bruh
The dragon got the meme
It was at this moment he knew he fucked up
Bro, I just started replaying the game again, I swear like four dragons have attacked the college, two of them Elder Dragons. They ain't *shit* with the entire College at my back
@@JamMasterJesus XD the dragons attacking the college are memes at this point
faralda was practically on death's door and got the higher terrain to defeat arnbjorn, this girl KNOWS her shit
She had the high ground, it was over arbjorn
Faralda: "I studied under the great Alteration Master Obi-Wan Kenobi, and his first Lesson was: ALWAYS respect the High Ground!"
Girl kited both Astrid AND Arnbjorn up high ground while her College Firing Squad lit them up, Faralda not messing around.
@@ShaoShaoMienshao She's the Destruction master for a reason.
Faralda may be a bitch but if my girl ain't efficient as hell
“Strength and steel are well and good - but magic is the true power in this world” -Gandhi
Magic is a funny way to spell nukes
Faaaaaacts
Also Wuunferth the Unliving
@@nicolasmoreno9442 Have you been to cloud district lately??? Tried some mercenary work,might suit yah.
Alright Gandhi
Should've paid attention to those ward lessons, huh?
And in other restoration lessons
Wards don't do much against a battle-axe lol
@@damianblu no but it does do shit against the mages who just owned the brotherhood
Ice magic is such a headache for those who specialize in melee
@@damianblu It increases armor rating
My man Cicero carrying it for the team even though his team lost
He survived till the end each time..
@@crownprince76 mainly because he was alone on the other side of the battlefield
As usual
I mean he is the main boss fight of the dark brotherhood quest after all
Cicero is a beast.
At first I would've guessed that the brotherhood wins but as soon as I saw that the college members were spawning attronachs, I knew the DB would lose because the AI almost always prioritizes attacking summons instead of the summoner.
Instead of a 9 v 9 it was effectively a 13 v 9 with the summons. I would have favored the magicians in an open battlefield as the DB are more specialized in the art of stealth and assassination.
@@Raxxinate I'd like to see this encounter set up as an ambush. The mages have every advantage in an open field / fair fight like this, but what if the mages were all sleeping in a campsite when the brotherhood attacked?
they needa get some AI mods.
@@Raxxinate i tried them all in a 1v1 and the mages still win, savos aren can beat them all
@@ArthurHenrique-wb1ni 1v1 is not what's been questioned, but an encounter where the Assassins would actually try to, you know, assassinate.
Proof that Ciscero is a very useful follower
Yeah he's the last one to die both times..
@Nav I every single teacher of winterhold can beat astrid in a 1v1 i made the test, and savos aren just finish her without a scratch
I remember my first time trying him out as a follower and he did the crazy onehanded kill animation on a dragon and from that day on he's my second favorite after vampire goth gf
@Nav I the main reason people use daggers is for sneak builds though
@Nav I true but blade of woe (I might be wrong) is the strongest dagger from my knowledge
This would be over a lot faster if those master mages actually had access to master spells.
This would be over a lot faster if every member of the brotherhood had that 500 damage poison coating their weapon.... Or got a free 12x hit with there dagger at the start of the fight...
@@danielgibson3422 They'd just get fire stormed to oblivion, regardless of what they do.
@@tyrayentali7041 every Skyrim player knows that nobody can beat a stealthy archer
I read that in Tali's voice 😂
@@danielgibson3422 your sneaky sneaks don't mean shit when a simple detect life spell gets thrown out there.
Round Starts
Flame atronach joined the server
Flame atronach joined the server
Flame atronach joined the server
Astrid went up in flames
Astrid: i hired the mages guild to execute this contract.
This is why there is a quest to wipe out the Dark Brotherhood and not one to wipe out the College of Winterhold.
Lol nice one
Irl Urag would’ve just started caving in skulls with the collected works of Shalidor
Fun fact about him he seen the rise and fall of the septum dynasty.
Yeah but like many things in Skyrim, they don't give them the proper stats and level to reflect how strong they should be (Falion being a great example). I think Urag is stuck at lvl 4 or something dumb like that.
@@MuraCasardis Crazy, why is the game racist towards orcs?
@@SuperYoshikong because Skyrim is for the Nords!
@@SuperYoshikong Bretons and Redguards: **
I like how phinis doesn’t use any destruction magic, he just starts swinging.
Faralda: Its over Arnbjorn, I have the highground.
Arnbjorn: You underestimate my power.
Faralda: Don't try it.
Seeing people get yeeted off screen with fire bolts will never get old
Dear assassins
Never should have come here.
I read this in the voice😂
Signed Savos Aren,
archmage of the college of winterhold.
Of damnit got to run
"Must have run off"
@@toby7712 lol
In the older games of the Elder Scrolls, when there is a serious threat, Empire always sends their battlemages to storm that place. Mages are truly insane
Makes sense, a thief archetype build is usually built on stealth and sneak attack bonuses, while a pure mage is a glass cannon. In an open fight, the DB is going to get wrecked every time.
Well no shit, when have you ever seen 12 assassins run at their contracts and expect to actually pull off the kill... assassination needs stealth, so maybe instead of this open battlefield bullshit, the DB should be hitting the College at night. See how the Mages fare when they aren't grouped up and can support each other with various schools of magic.
in TES pure mages aren't glass canons because they have all 6 schools of magic at their disposals pure mages are nightmares in combat because using illusion they have perfect stealth mysticism means you cannot hide from them they see you sneaking they see you if you're invisible using restoration they can take your life and ability to use weapons and be immune to poison reflect magic damage and basically anything bad.
@@shinigamigaming2941 at night they're still grouped up and have a barrier around the college to prevent night attacks
@@saiyanfang1047 Now I'm thinking my last pure mage playthrough, where my OP mage kept getting one shot by bears that came out of the forest like a heat seeking missile.
@@publiusdos5925 in Skyrim mages are shit because it's Skyrim despite what they say Tolfdir is pretty shitty at magic compared to Alteration experts of third era Cyrodiil and Morrowind, Neloth even goes far enough to say that Savos Aren wasn't good enough to be an apprentice. pre skyrim mage armor was a real thing as actual armor like a full set of Daedric that weighs nothing
Why didn't Savos conjure a Dremora Lord like he normally does?
The DB needs a chance
@@SilverGamingFI There could be no other end!
My guess is the db level is low so npc are nerfed a lil but idk
They didn't even need their final form
In my game he attacks me by punching me or grabbing some weapon, and then start using Stoneflesh and Fast Healing (clearly someone joined the wrong faction)
ALL HAIL WINTERHOLD
Edberaga The Magician! BOOOO!! THE DARK BROTHERHOOD FOR FOREVER!!
Spirit Wraith hah! WEAK!
@@edberaga6357 winterhold is my favorite capital in skyrim
Why not a mage dark brotherhood
Amke Amke they don't believe with magic
"hehe daggers are cool but magic is more damage idk" - George Washington
Why are you making shit on someone else's name. You're a fuckin jack ass
@@thecoobs8820 dude it's a joke chill
@@thecoobs8820 "dude it's a joke chill" - Nikola Tesla
@@thecoobs8820
"No need to get your panties in a twist"-Napoleon Bonaparte
@@thecoobs8820 "you know what they say, if it's old enough to count then it's old enough to mount"
- Osama Bin Laden
Watching tolfdir get absolutely gutted made me a lil sad ngl he’s just a nice old man
Same
And once everything was settled...
"Must've scared em off..."
also followed by things like "must have been my imagination playing tricks" or "well that takes care of that"
Must've been the wind.
"Must be my imagination" Says that with one arrow in his eye and second arrow lodgen in the chest
I supose, Penitus Oculatus should hire magicians from Winterhold for kill Dark Brotherhood.)
Fukkatsumy Kamikoto they will never die
Technically on my case... they did
I was doing Winterhold college quest when i destroyed the Dark Brotherhood, they can't do shit againt Magic
@@madysalty5294 if it was novice difficulty then it's obviously easy , tho on master and legend it'll leave a bit of ... Hell , 3000 septims not worth it.
@@Sorta8 it's worth it for me...
(looks at all the jumpscares their assassins gave me)
"To kick-ass, one must know the arcane arts"- Sun Tzu
"To kick-ass, one must know the shooty arts" - Gun Tzu
I find it fitting that the two of four last assassins to be ruthlessly burned were the wife and husband, and Arnbjorn literally saw Astrid’s flaming corpse be flung across his field of view before he was shot down too
Mage with Mage Armor: tank
Mage without Mage Armor: poke **dies**
Dane ..honest to god sniper tactic is ALWAYS useful
Most feared assassins in Skyrim, eh?
Ya Assassins, not warriors. Assassins attack from the shadows, not in open combat.
@@bestkill6888 even on 1v1, the teachers win, savos aren can beat them all without a scratch, i made the test
@@ArthurHenrique-wb1ni Okay and? That has nothing to do with what I said 2 YEARS AGO😭😭🤡🤡🤡
@@bestkill6888 doens't matters the circunstance, the mages win
@@bestkill6888 seens that you're the same dumbass as 2 years ago
But I’m not gonna lie though I do want to see how the thieves guild fairies against the dark brotherhood
They'd steal dark brotherhood's weapons, armor and pants before the combat starts, and offer the loot to Nocturnal
They'd steal the spotlight
Would that include Mercer and Karliah?
Interesting idk
@@JonatasAdoM That’s the fucken best.
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Activate windows.
Waitd 3 years for this?!
College of Winterhold versus Companions.
Yesss I wanna see Vex and Delvin in action. The thives will probably lose but wtv
College of winterhold vs Volkihar Vampires as both have some good magic users
"Dark brotherhood definitely have this in the bag, magic is pretty weak in skyrim"
*College of winterhold's numbers instantly double*
"Ah"
Yeah. Conjuration basically acted as a way to soak attacks and get more attacks in. Also not a single one of them was a bow specialist so you also saw the DB needing to cover distance before they could do damage. The terms of the match favored Winterhold.
Yup - destruction magic scales poorly compared to hand weapons that are fully boosted by smithing/enchanting/alchemy, *none* of which are a factor for NPCs. If DB were equipped to dual wield and had two weapons in their inventory, this would have been closer, but it's hard to catch up to mages firing frost spells on open ground with unlimited room to retreat when you are wearing useless armor. And the ability to focus fire from distance AND the fact that mages often are already unleashing an ice bolt when somebody takes a knee at low health. Pretty sure I saw the DB fail to finish somebody who then got up and started firing spells again - a disengagement that disproportionately favors ranged combatants.
Really, there's absolutely no reason to expect the DB to have a snowflake's chance in hell in a fight like this. Not a lot of armies have detachments of soldiers wearing light armor and weilding single daggers. HTH DPS losing to Ranged DPS in an open, large-scale skirmish is no surprise whatsoever 😄
You dumb modder
This battlefield is way too heavily advantageous to the college, but uh... Skyrim is also annoyingly stacked against mages so it's fine.
Actually if the battlefield is short it would be worse for db cuz conjuration will be more op and expert destruction spells deal aoe damage
Stacked _against_ mages?
Idk, my guy. 2x Storm Atronachs, yeeting Frenzy into some enemies and spamming Chain Lightning (becuase Storm Bois are immune) is _pretty OP._
Then again, the master Conjuration trainer (Phineas Gestor?) only summoned a Flame Atronach. 🤷♂️
Edit: Other commenters say Savos Aren is supposed to summon a Dremora Lord, so that's a big fat Yikes for the DB. 😭
@@haytamhaytam7227 Adept Destruction spells (Chain Lightning, Ice Storm, Fireball) do AoE damage. Expert ones (Thunderbolt, Ice Spear, Incinerate) are, annoyingly, single-target only.
@@henryviiifake8244
Yea but the higher the level the more nerfed magic gets, so once you can use master level spells with a level 30 character the magic is weaker then a level 30 bandit because a spell used by a master level wizard deals the same damage has a level 1 wizard. The only reason they won was because of heals/ice and ai going after atronachs. There's so much stuff that hardcore nerfs magic in this game.
The only two exceptions are the high mage who has special stats and can beat most characters one on one. Or dragons at the college because the mages fire so many ranged attacks before the dragon ai can even find a angle to land or blast from. Now if magic didn't have a stagnant damage rate, and leveled with the character then you would be 100% right.
@@logandenton6467 Magic is still very easily viable at lvl 30, hell even at lvl 50 it is, adept and expert spells with one of the 3 masks of dragonborn's dragon priest can deal 90 damage for adept or 135 damage for expert. That is still incredibly powerful, not as much as a fully upgraded weapon of your choice maybe, but just the fact you can have only 1 skill tree at 100 and not 3 just to deal damage is very good
This is like the Deadliest Warrior episode with ninja vs spartan. The Brotherhood wouldn't engage in open combat on an open field. They would sneak into the college and use their stealth skills to murder everyone in their sleep.
Exact words by that ninja team guy in that episode and i think its true why would a ninja or in thus case an assassin ever have an open fight when their speciality is stealth itself.
@@bertmacklin7483 I mean, you can always argue it's a case of "both sides are caught unaware of each other" or "assassins really should be able to fight in these conditions to some degree because at some point they're going to get caught and running away won't be an option."
The issue with that is Ninjas irl weren't as badass as we make them out to be. The Spartans would absolutely beat ninjas and no the idea of a ninja running around a spartan camp killing them "stealthily" is incredibly unrealistic. At the end of the day there's always a bigger fish, and Ninjas just aren't anywhere near biggest fish. They're badass, but mainly because they were impoverished farmers who used guerilla tactics to resist oppressive dynamos who sent heavily armored soldiers to raid their villages. But as cool as that is it'd be ridiculous to think they could beat Spartans in any sort of combat, even utilizing guerilla tactics.
If you have to kill someone in their sleep in order to win, are you even strong in the first place? Genuine question.
@@MechaGriffin Exactly.
I don’t think it’s a question. The college immediately has a numbers advantage. The brotherhood doesn’t have the ai to sneak, and realistically speaking there’s nowhere to hide. If the brotherhood locks onto antronoks (forgive if it’s spelled wrong) then they’re seriously screwed. Mages are probably the most overpowered when it comes to NPC wars.
*Atronachs
@@silvercandra4275 thank you! I was struggling with that one.
@@silvercandra4275 *atronachs
@@joravrba8890 You're right... ^^;
Well, at least my correction was slightly right...er
Well magic sucks at higher level, so I think the mor eyou increase the NPCs level, the more the DB will have chances to win.
College FTW duh.They have everything.
They can go invisible,
can create mayhem make the Assassins kill each other,
can calms the Dark Brotherhood should they got angry,
can detect life should the enemy go invisible,
can paralyze,
can revive the fallen assassin to fight against their living friends.
They didn't use all those options in this fight but ... Don't mess with the proffessors. Whenever I play this game, I always go for mages. Versatility.
It is different if the Brotherhood is on a mission to kill them. They will go one by one, and will suceed.
True but the mages are just boring. It is no fun just casting a invisibility spell and casting a fireball at someone
I always go for a mage build, and it's much more fun, not to mention all the spells that will take from being near dead, to full health
@@AncientSavant7572
Agree.
I use Destruction only for fun, because other schools are too strong!
*Illusion* will make even the angriest bandits, giants, vampire, bears, automatons, falmers, etc my best friend, and I can even make them kill each other.
*Conjuration* can raise two Master Vampires or Arch Necromancers as my slaves, which is overkill since both of them can raise armies as well.
*Alteration* made me basically a magic tank, if we combine the Atronach Perk and Atronach Stone, plus I can do Mass Paralysis, which is crazy strong.
Fighting undeads using *Restoration* is overkill. I usually pursue Draugr Deathlord, Draugr Wight, Draugr Scourge, Master Vampire, etc, because my spell Circel of Protection.
And there are *Echanting and Alchemy,* that can make my character have millions of HP and Magicka, or even damage!
Too versatile!
What was missing from this fight was the stealth element. 1v1s where the assassins got the first hit in, or better yet: ruclips.net/video/hTyNGVTZf8I/видео.html
@@rekaadang Illusion is easily the most useless school of magic past level 30
Faralda MVP
It's no wonder why she's the College Gatekeeper
Faralda MVP for the College, but Cicero straight up took everything and always lasted til the end
Why does this remind me of twilight with its small ass "war" in a snowy field.
3:54 Brotherhood: "You are dead"
Winterhold: "Call an ambulance! But for not me"
*Winterhold*
Eyy this was really great. That's wassup. My Boy Cicero was the last man standing. I knew DB would get slaughtered bu that was a treat. 👍
I can’t get over how much of a good idea this was.
Who would win: the most powerful an well respected masters of magic in all of skyrim
Or
A bunch of edgebois
What a cool concept for a Skyrim video! I appreciate your passion and camera skills alot, too. I want more!
I think the College of Winterhold can win against the Companions but it would be a tougher fight.
I'm still going to check out your other vids but it would be cool to have different battle areas/locations that benefit the factions' expertise, as well as a more neutral location.
The assassins had no chance in this icy plain. They were lacking different levels of height and shadow :)
College just lucky the unkillable child with vampiric powers didn't show up
Don’t forget the boss J’Zargo wasn’t there too. As we All know J’Zargo scales to the Db. And he has All kind of spells. He’s a badass. And also vampires are killable in skyrim, erasing any Trace of their existence was my favorite thing to so in the game 😬☺️ as i deeply despise even the very idea of a vampire
That child would had evaporated at the mere presence of Restoration master Colette. Remember, restoration is a perfectly valid school of magic!
@@CativaCookie Nuh uh. In Skyrim children are are immortal.
The mages has the vantage.
When they summon the atronach, the assassins go attack them while the mages kepp distance and attack with magic. Besides, even when the assassins attack directly, the mages can heal themselves.
"Out fricking skilled" "Get dunked on"
Love the mages hope they slap the companions.
I ache because I love this video so much. Please do more. Thank you for such a clear video and choosing a landscape not obscured by trees. Two wish lists: a few more close-up shots and a roster of who is still alive at the end. But they are super minor. I still think this is such a great battle video of our beloved skyrim peeps.
Babette: "Just a normal human girl here, don't investigate."
That didn't go at all how I expected it would 😁. Great video, more please.
Can we talk about that ACCURACY?! those mages and atronachs are 360 no scoping across the map!
Wow bro it just keeps going up, smashed it 👏
I wonder what level this guy was. I typically see a storm attonoch summoned by the wizards.
A more epic video never have I seen. I'm glad there was an ad at the end so that my view has given something to the creator
Much Appreciated!
I mean theyre supposed to be assassins, not warriors fighting in an open battlefield. So it kinda makes sense for them to lose
J'zargo is pleased with this outcome
That epic moment when Faralda was tanking Arnbjorn and the iniciate, while the artillery were bombarding them from behind trying to help was amazing. Arnbjorn had Faralda !! one more strike and she's dead, but the electricity and fire were too much powerful to continue the fight.
Always good to see the mages triumphing over those filthy rogues.
Cicero in 1st round be like: Go away mages, Cicero has to kill Arniel Gane!
I did not expect to enjoy this this much. LET'S GO CoW!!!
so proud of my boy cicero for carrying the entire DB in this video
They didn’t have their most valuable asset: a 10 year old vampire.
Gee, it seems that the DB isn't as strong as it was before I WONDER WHY, ASTRID 👁👁
Because assassins are stealthy, if they were able to play like a player the mages would've actually had a harder time, but what do I know I'm just using my brain yet the mages are too stubborn to use their brain
Awesome video. Restoration, atronachs and sheer range will definetly assure victory! Just funny how Cicero was last one to die 2 times
Go Mages, go!
This was a lot of fun 😂
Knowing what we know about Skyrim NPC AI, the outcome is absolutely no surprise but it's still fun to watch the large-scale faction battle.
Love it when the mages start summoning fire atronach
College of Winterhold is badasss... All these skyrim videos popping up suddenly is making me miss this game. Can't believe it is already years since it first came out !
You're the one from the college. Heard about you.
That epic pan at 4:08 !!! Everyone regrouping simultaneously to go get Cicero, I love it!!
Bruh this here, is content.
A lot of dark brotherhood strength would be in their ability to sneak and get the first hit or two. This video doesn't account for the environment that is being used and how it may effect the battle as a whole.
That being said I do love the video and support you to make this one and many more. Thank you:)
I always loved the college!
Magic is the next step on combat and life. For sure
Favorite Faction, along with The Dawnguard!
@@Raxxinate uh iah
You belong to the guild mate! Honor and praise!
I would love to see more videos of every faction versus each one and then do an ultimate count down to the best factikn strength wise. But this a great idea for a series in my opinion! 🤙
Kinda makes me sad for not being able to fight as a mage :'(
use mods....
Them frost spells came in clutch
Distanced based destruction magic and summons vs iron swords and daggers. Not a surprise to me.
9 vs 9
Round 1.... Start!
9 vs 13
Brotherhood: "that's not fair!"
That was epic but I had my money on the assassins
Same. They are such trash in a straight fight. No wonder they are in hiding. LOL
@@renaldoawes2210 the ai for anything other than mages and warriors is garbage, the assassin type ai is highly neglected
Please do more of these! They will make you blow up! Do college vs companions, thieves guild vs DB, imperials vs stormcloaks with general tullius and Ulfric, you can also do how many blades to beat a dragon and dremora vs dragons and there are just so many possibilites!!!
I totally thought that mages don't stand a chance against swordsmen, but damn.
Never knew I needed this - I want so much more of these!
The dark brotherhood has a werewolf that I'm not seeing, bro
That requires a part 2, I think
They also have a little girl vampire
This looks really cool, how did you make this?
Just used console commands and recorded with capture software such as Nvidia Shadowplay.
@@Raxxinate Ah, I play on the switch so I had no idea you could do that.
I guess that it pays to stay in college in Skyrim.
The bg music goes with this perfectly
Seeing Cicero get finished off by a firebolt at 1:55 was extremely satisfying.
"Hail, summoner. Conjure me up a warm bed, would you?"
The college will endure
Already knew for thisll play out 😂
Awesome camera work btws
background music?
Tracks:
Skyrim Theme Remix - Plasma3Music
Skyrim OST - Dragonborn
that ending scene with mountains.... maaan i must replay skyrim with this mods looks fabulous especially with choosen music.
You know The College is nearly Impossible to beat. WTH did ya'll expect.
This randomly slid into my recommended lol I used to watch these fights all the time when I was younger🙂
Honestly I expected the mages to win, I have seen them evaporating dragons every second day already. Their strength is actually very solid.
Man, Fallout & Skyrim is just one of the best games for NPC wars
The animation looks cool
The combat system is good too
The factions, not bad
Weapons not bad
Armors looking good
And most of all
*It's eazy enough to make one NPC war scenario*
There are reasons dark brotherhood stealthy characters in this game they couldn kill them with one hit with sneak attack
The reason they use stealth is because they fucking suck ass in any sort of fair combat LOL as shown in this video. Unless they literally have the drop on somebody with a 400% crit chance bonus they aren't killing shit.
@@renaldoawes2210 that's like saying a mage sucks ass because they can't accomplish anything with out their magic....
Just add a coating of that super poison the brotherhood makes to all there weapons and see how well the mages fair.
@@danielgibson3422 No it's not. Magic is a tool not a situation. I never took the Dark Brotherhood's weapons from them. But this argument of "well they're stronger if they jump you by surprise and therefore they're stronger" is ridiculous.
@@renaldoawes2210 stealth in game is also a tool well used by the player in game that offers a tangible bonus.
Even if you want to ignore that then at the very least they should be given the best poisons considering that is literally just a tool.
@@danielgibson3422 Stealth isn't a tool stealth is a tactic. A tool is a physical item while stealth is a skill based tactic. It's like if you were to compare armed forces. Let's just say US soldiers vs Russian. But then you unfairly gave the Russians an ambush position and put the US forces completely out of position. That would be an awful way to compare them.
If we are going to give the assassins stealth then we have to give the mages something in return. All the mages would have to do is cast detect life and now the assassins have to fight a straight up fight, which brings us full circle where we can clearly see they are incapable of winning.
I grant you if the assassins had better gear they probably would have won, but the mages could also be given stronger spells. Blame Bethesda for that one, not the video creator. He set up the most fair fight possible and the assassins got rocked. Personally? I expected them to massacre the mages because Magic is really weak in Skyrim compared to melee but I wasn't expecting the assassins to be that weak lmao.
Great fun, but quite hard to tell what's happening and the results unless you're very familiar. Some commentary or visual cue about who won each round would help enormously.
*Meanwhile the Thieves’ Guild just robbed the College and the lair of the Dark Brotherhood clean*.
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