A Home For Evil | The Amityville Horror
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- Опубликовано: 15 сен 2022
- On January 14th, 1976, the Lutz family fled their home at 112 Ocean Avenue, Amityville, New York, in horror. They told reporters a tale of ghostly apparitions, levitation, strange noises, and even physical harm. But what else could yo expect from a home where just 14 months prior, an entire family had been murdered in their beds? Part true crime and part haunting, this is the true story of the the Amityville Horror. Welcome back to The Lore Lodge...
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"The younger daughter appears to have been alive when she was killed"
i just went to comment this LOL
i think maybe he meant ‘awake’ lmao, that sentence raised an eyebrow for me too
That is what I meant
@@TheLoreLodge the best part of your videos is that you are self aware, make mistakes and own them and move on. If anyone gets hung up on the wrong choice of word used, the issue is on them, not you Aidan!
@@TheLoreLodge great content anyway. The missing 411 stuff really got me to binge and hook in.
“She was alive when she was killed”
*drops glasses* impossible! ❤
Truly...people die when they are killed.
*gasp* drops toaster in bathtub.
came to the comments for this lmao
@@DaKdawggo home shirou, you’re drunk
@@Merlin_Ambrosius_1100 till death do we part at life's end.
Crying because the most unlikely thing in this video to exist is not a ghost or demon but the fact that a one income family could afford such a house
They had mafia money
they were mob-connected, the house was given to them by another family member as a wedding gift. Im hating this video badly because the host is incompetent at best or just doesn't really give a damn about the event.
The worst part is the post-murder house price is still so far out of range that I could get, and both my partner and I have an above-average salary
They couldn't which is why they made up this nonsense
Imagine being as dumb as you
It's kind of sad because the Lutz story always takes top billing, but the Defeo killing seemed to be the most interesting one to me. To go from room to room with a fairly large caliber rifle, shooting one family member after another, yet no one seemed to wake up? That's creepy.
Simple, the others _did_ get up but were told by their older brother AND sister that 'Everything was ok.' and to get back in bed.
@@231mac Face down?
@@Steve_V1066 Do you think he would rather shoot his brother or sister while they were looking at him? Or would he make them face away? Btw, I'm not meaning to sound round in any way.
@@231mac there's also speculation that he did it in that way to make it look "professional" so he could blame the mob later.
@231mac multiple times though? That's a lot of times to be like "forget about that massive ear piercing bang, go back to sleep"
I said this on Wendigoon's video about the Warrens as well.
Background on me; as I know this is a person on the internet: I was a firearms instructor and range safety officer for a state agency in Florida for 10 years. We did a study at our ranges on sound propagation from gunshots. We did this to select an insulation to put on the ranges to reduce the sound signature.
It is not at all strange that people outside may not have noticed the gunshots from inside the house.
Walls are flat, hard surfaces. When sound waves hit a wall, the majority of the energy is reflected away from the wall. This is because sound waves have a low kinetic energy, being tiny particles vibrated to produce sound. The study found that using a soft surface that could absorb energy from the soundwaves (in our case, I forget the trade name for it but we used basically shredded cardboard mixed with glue, a mix often used in parking garages according to the contractor) and we did see a sound reduction of over 10 dB (I believe it was 12dB) just from putting that on the roof. So there's the interior wall, insulation, the outer wall, that is a lot of stuff for sound to penetrate.
Further, and this is not me calling 35 Remington weak or quiet, but as a handloader myself with 10+ years experience and probably over a hundred thousand rounds loaded, different calibers use different powders, which burn at different rates, which create different pressures. The amount of pressure released has different effects on the soundwave propagation. Higher pressures push the soundwaves harder, so to speak.
According to the Lee Modern Reloading Manual, Second Edition by Richard Lee, which I have for loading my own ammunition, the pressures range from 25,000psi to around 34,000psi. By comparison, a 9x19 NATO round ranges generally between 30 and 35k psi. A 5.56x45 NATO round is loaded to 45-55,000 psi. A 7.62 NATO ranges from 47-62,000psi. The round is effective and a nice brush round with a heavy and slow bullet but the pressure it is loaded to would mean the soundwaves would be less able to reach the exterior of the house, because it is, much like 30-30 WCF, loaded to a relatively low chamber pressure because it relies on bullet mass for energy instead of speed.
And yes, if you shoot one in open air the sound... propagates...
Referring back to what I recall of the study, it found that sound had a longer range in forest areas actually because the air and hard surfaces for the sound to reflect from allowed the soundwaves to travel farther.
Think like throwing a rock at a pond. If you throw it and it hits and skips 10 times, it travels farther than if you throw it and it hits square and sinks straight. A gunshot inside a house is like throwing a rock at a pond from inside your car with the window rolled up. According to the laws of physics, it isn't that strange for the sound to not propagate to the exterior and be noticed by other people, especially as the rifle used was a relatively low-pressure round with a pressure similar to 9mm NATO/Luger.
Edit: to clarify, I'm not saying you couldn't hear the gunshot from outside, just that the way it transferred the sound to the exterior would have reduced it to maybe the volume of a high dB shout, especially with a lower pressure cartridge. Given that the population of the US was lower when the shooting happened, and it took place at night, I think people who may have noticed the report may not have realized what it was, just heard a relatively vague noise. There are numerous cases of people getting injured and shouting in apartment complexes and not being heard, again not because the sound couldn't get past the wall at all, just that it might have been muffled enough that the average person hearing it might not have recognized it as a gunshot.
Do you think the sound of the first gunshot should have woken up the rest of the family and caused them to get out of bed? How was Ronald Jr able to go from bedroom to bedroom executing his family without them waking up and getting out of bed from the gunshot.. I'm just curious and it seems like you would know if that makes sense from the research you did and the overall firearm knowledge you have.
Thank you for this really interesting insight. I don’t know anything about guns, so this was kind of surprising to me
@@jacobM206 I feel like that could be up to heavy sleepers, I have multiple times when I was younger slept through fire alarms, tornado warnings and things such as. I feel like really heavy sleepers like myself would be able to probably sleep through that although would be shocking if no one woke up so maybe they got scared and didn’t move?
About 10 years ago, my wife and I lived in a small apartment complex with fairly thin walls. It was super annoying how much sound from the next door neighbors could make it through to our side.
But the night that our neighbors were shot at and a friend of their's who was visiting them was killed by the stray bullet we slept right through the whole thing! Now granted it was a handgun which is considerably quieter than a rifle but still...
We didn't hear any of the shouting or fighting that lead up to it. We didn't hear the gun shots. We didn't even hear the first responders arriving on the scene!
We had no clue that our front parking lot was full of cops and paramedics until someone with the NC SBI knocked on the door to ask us if we minded being asked some questions.
And I mean we were literally just one whole room and a thin wall away from it. So yeah, I'm with you fully on the neighbors in Amityville not hearing a rifle through all the walls of the one house pluse the distance between houses and then the walls of their own houses.
Fully tracks with my personal experience.
@@Thesis_Rose a tornado siren isn’t a gunshot that was 15 feet away
You can see the smile creeping across his face after saying that opening line and I'm here for it!
It must have felt so right.
I love It when ghost hunters and people like the Warrens go into any given place and assure people it’s like super haunted they promise and then literally anybody else goes in there and it’s. It’s fine. Nothing happens at all
Their version of peer review is also exclusively people who either are willing to lie for them or other paranormal investigators
Don't have a haunted house, but would love to see you investigating them. Who you gonna call becomes who you gonna email.
This is literally the first time I've heard of the mob angle. And I've heard this story multiple times. Dude.
Well, there is also the cocaine and LSD use. He was antisocial....nothing wrong with that, but could point to mental health issues galore.
Dude - the day after the murders the cops announced the mob angle. Ronnie Jr was initially taken into custody for his own safety until they sorted it out. Besides, how to you think Ronnie Sr, a used car salesman with 5 kids REALLY afforded an upper class Dutch Colonial on Amity Island if not for mob ties? LOL!
His father in law (Louise's dad) was "Big Mike" Brigante!
Ed and Lorainne Warren are both dead, so calling them to do an investigation would be kind of impossible.
I don't think Amityville was a case of an actual haunting, but perhaps a case of psychological issues. The Lutzes were recently married, adoption of the 3 kids from his wife's first marriage (a long drawn out court proceedure), he was struggling with his business then buy this big house. So yeah, I think some of the stresses they were facing manifested into some randomness being construed as spoopy happenings.
As for the Defoe family not waking up that night , I heard they may have been drugged. IDK, that was a theory put out about it,and it does make sense.
Autopsy showed no signs of drugs in their system but who knows if they tested for every type of drug back then but then again a lot of the narcotics and depressants we know today to induce deep sleep and lethargy didn’t get made till later. Hence why they should have been in a position to hear at least 3 of the gunshots or one of them should have moved but there was no movement prior to death for all the victims. Just eerie and the more facts that you read the less that gets explained.
8:17
"...And the walls will ooze *Green SLIME?!*
...
oh wait, it always does that..."
"Alive when she was killed" yeah that seems to be how that works
The reason they were able to afford the huge house on long Island, his inlaws paid the mortgage. Before his inlaws started helping out, they all lived in a 2bedroom apt. Thx for another great episode ♥️
I love that you actually are realistic in your approach to these things. The fact that you separate out the facts from the exaggerated or outright rumor is exceptional. I believe that there might have been some spiritual activity, BUT that it was totally overblown with cinematic ADDITIONS to the story to make it sell. I also dont believe it was the house itself, but more likely an attachment to the family which explains how it did NOT continue to be an issue with the next residents! My opinion, and I approve this message...lol
I love it when Lore Lodge is skeptical, because he's usually way too open minded (by my cynical, close-minded, measure), so when he's skeptical you know it'll be a fun time.
The man escorting Dafeao around the 5 minute marker was my Grandfather Detective George Harrison. He was heavily involved in this case and was one of the original arresting officers
So... my fuse box decided to blow half way through this video. Lights out. If I didn't already think this place was haunted I deffo do now... Them ghosts messing with me jesus christ
My friends and I have a tradition of going past the house every year on Halloween, weird to think about being so close to it
I'm from Long Island, and you did great, just one thing- it's pronounced more like Suf-Fuk county. It's cool though lol, most names on the island can be hard to pronounce
One thing you need to understand is that it was much easier to afford to buy a house in 1965 than it is today. The average house only costs around 2-4 times the average yearly salary. So it was much easier to save up for one as well as finance one. Unfortunately, the buying power of the average salary has greatly decreased over the decades. This is a major reason if you live anywhere besides a big city your grandparents likely own their own home and every generation after the baby boomers the likelihood of home ownership in your 20s has decreased.
One of my bestfriend's lived right down the street from the house. Driven by it about a million times!! Crazy stuff!!
I've passed the Amityville house, its so strange to know what happened there as you pass it, and the fact you live decently close to it
I always think it’s so adorable when people think there are only like 5 Amityville movies and not 25+
there's a place down on Ocean avenue where I used to sit and talk with you. We were both 16 and it felt so right, sleeping all day staying up all night.
Man, I kinda wish I could live in a haunted place. Just to finally get confirmation.
"THE WALLS WILL OOZE GREEN SLIME!...oh wait, they always do that..."
"and the walls will ooze green slime!"
No wait, They always do that.
The hash sling, the wash winging, the the bash dining
Unsolved No More has done a series on the Defoe murders. You get the perspective of a cold case detective, Detective Mains as he breaks down the events.
10:15 I remember seeing this picture when I was younger. Something I remember scaring me more than the kid himself was the faded face way up above the kid near the very top of the door. Photo is probably fake af but putting that spooky face up there was a nice touch.
Five movies. That's a cute guess.
It's the most prolific horror series. 22 movies, not counting mockbusters and documentaries that appropriated the Amityville name
Green ooze coming from the walls would be terrifying to see
Ed Warren told Jay Anson to use his imagination when writing the book but to make it creepy.
When he said "Our beloved Warrens" in that specific voice I did indeed do a lol
How, exactly, are people supposed to report any haunting events in the house? Notify the police? Newspapers?
Contact the Church.
18:17 "If you ever do think that your home is haunted, please don't call the Warrens."
Could be tough. They're dead.
My mom doesn’t like spooky stuff, so the fact that while I was watching a documentary on this case she brought up, unprovoked, that she found it odd that the rest of the family stayed still in their rooms even when there was clear signs like the sound of a gun going off and such that would have alerted them
I just mentioned this story to my family and my grandpa who used to work for Newsday told me he had interviewed Ronald DeFeo after he killed his family. Interesting connection.
"Just make it up. And make it scary" -Ed Warren
Grew up Amityville. Whenever Halloween came around the windows would always be boarded up
I run by this home often. It's quite lovely actually
Heheh and it's pronounced "Suf-ick"!
Another good video. I like your conclusions. I experientially agree with what you’ve said about tearing that veil.
The mid 2000s film is excellent. Shows Ryan Reynolds in a brilliant dramatic role.
10:07 Is that a man poking it's head out in the top of the left door frame? .-.
I swear I'm seeing two eyes there.
HOLY SHIT I SEE IT
I've seen this photo a million times and that part is actually scary. I also never noticed it lmao.
Holy sh*t that’s terrifying
It is my opinion that George Lutz regretted not only buying the house but getting married and this was his ticket out of both 😁
I'm typically one who tends to believe in the supernatural, but honestly this seems like the simplest answer
James Brolin as George Lutz is REAL generous. Hollywood be wildin’ 😂 I said what I said.
Great video. Near 40 movies were made about Amityville
I have been attacked by a spirit force years ago. I was on a haunted walk and this incident happened at the end. The force had hung himself. My daughter inlaw hung herself and I wonder if that was the reason. The force choked me. I had a sore neck and marks after this incident
Funny part is we had a person who claimed to be able to speak to spirits. She shit herself and bolted outside.
Car dealership management income has to have the largest discrepancy across the industry of any position. Some make 75,000 a year and I’ve heard of some who make over 300k a year.
I dont think my house is haunted but I do have a dead guys ashes in my basement
Random dead guy or not?
One of my great grandfathers
That yellowcard reference in the beginning is underated.
You should come down to Shepherdstown or Harpers Ferry WV sometime. Our civil war history has left us with a lot of ghost stories. Also not entirely sure what it is but I have definitely been followed in my car by something with two red eyes when i was driving home at night years ago.
I grew up in a hunted house, but the ghosts where tricksters they would move the couch an inch so you would stub your toe type thing. But the new owners knocked it down.
My experience with ghosts have been with them trolling me similarly
@DarkSpider361 yeah mine was like that until it wasnt
One ghost in our house tried to start doing a lil trolling. Started with moving my glass away from me just as I was to pour some juice.
So I snapped at it to not do that and to not touch stuff I was gonna use.
no more trolling cuz I keep snapping at it to stop that
i have become my mum
Love the Ocean Avenue intro lol
May the force be with you !!!
May the force be with you
I think it was haunted, but like most was blown out of proportion in the retelling
Loved the Yellowcard reference. I live in Jacksonville, FL & they're from Jax Beach, so the Ocean Ave they're talking about is there, but that was a cool tie in.
We say it like "Suff-ick," lol
On the suppressed rifle thing; It is true, a supersonic projectile still creates a very loud sonic boom even if a "can" (slang for silencer) captures the noise of expanding propellant gasses as they escape the muzzle. With the exception of some handguns, the reason people can generally distinguish gunshots from fireworks is that a firework will have a boom - echo report, where as a firearm will have a crack, sonic boom, echo, & echo report. As for silencer vs suppressor, some people insist on the former bc that was the term on the patent, some insist on the latter bc "silencer" implies the hollywood "pew" which is NOT accurate, while gun people just call it a can.
That depends on the ammunition you’re running. My buddies who have cans on their rifles run subsonic ammo through their rifles. Just figured I’d add that in there
Amityville is my favorite horror story!!
Peter Venkman was a Parapsycoligist, how you dare to call it pseudosuence 😁🤣
Ryan renolds in horror movies is crazy
Phoenixville !!! You’re in my backyard and I had no clue 😳😳💗💗💗
Greetings from Sweden my dude! Love your work, super fascinating stuff! I just want to point out some misinformation concerning your LSD comments. It can absolutely trigger a psychosis or latent schizophrenia, just as alcohol, cannabis and other drugs can. Also, there’s the myth of it being “stored in the body” and “acid flashbacks” which is false. The LSD actually leaves your body rapidly after ingestion, within a day or two. Psychedelics are also, while not impossible, quite hard to abuse, mainly due to the fact of rapid tolerance. To get the same effect, you have to double the dose each time if you don’t wait until your tolerance is lower or reset, which usually takes about a week. So for the same experience you had with a 100 microgram dose yesterday, you’d have to take 200 microgram the day after, 400 after that, etc. These are all classic “war on drugs” myths and I just felt like I needed to dispel them. You seem like a hella clever dude who does great research, so it just seemed weird you’d get that part wrong. HPPD can definitely cause problems with higher doses and prolonged use. Keep up the good work, I literally can’t stop watching, fascinating stuff!
Everything you said is correct HOWEVER the point Aiden made was about the psychological impacts that lsd has on the mind. Even doing lsd once can fck you up psychologically. In fact I have a few family friends who did lsd once in college back during the 80s and all of them are still traumatized from it. It’s a very very psychologically damaging drug and that’s the point Aiden was making, and it’s the reason why lsd is so dangerous
That intro killed me
I had a really creepy Paranormal experience but I'm not sure exactly what paranormal entity fits the bill to what happened to me. So I might send y'all an email
This story has always been a interesting one. I agree it was probably the family that was haunted, not the house itself.
As a practicing occultist and pagan lady, I see two options at what was going one.
Either they deliberately or by accident brought something into the home. Be it through dabble in the occult, and doing something that brought something too them. Creating the energy shifts in the house, the knocking sounds, ect. You need to be pretty grounded doing
ritual work, and cleansing a area after doing anything is usually a good idea. If your minds in the clouds and your too open, that creates a whole bunch of other issues. That can worsen after time.
Or a second opt
option, someone in the home has some medium skills and simple drawn something to that person and they simply didn't know how to handle it.
It's important to note that the older brother of the two, claims that the younger brother has had serious mental problems through life. The Netflix doc My Amityville Horror is told mainly from the perspective of the younger brother, wherein he speaks about George Lutz and his creepy adult friends that would practice occult rituals in the house.
I would love to see a body language expert review the part of the documentary where the younger brother claims that the angry cartoon pig was a thing that really happened, especially considering that much the same thing was described by the Smurls in their own haunted case.
One minute in, and at the time of writing this the beach serial killer's in custody too.
I live pretty close to both, and I *promise* you, having that big of a house is even more baffling than you might think. Intuitively you know a home by the water like that isn't cheap; but *especially* expensive here. Everything's extra expensive here for no good reason. Seriously don't come here, if the murderers don't get you the accents will make your ears bleed.
I read a long time ago that the first publisher, Prentice Hall, put up the money for the Lutz's. And that Jay Anson had a previous relationship with Prentice Hall to write the book. The whole thing was a set up, but the Lutz's dined out on this story for the rest of their lives. I understand the neighbors who remember them called them the Putz family.
Which movie had Jared Padalecki? I feel I would remember this. Did you mean Ryan Reynolds?
That's what I was thinking.
Same... my Google-Fu turned up nothing about Jared in an Amityville movie, so he probably was thinking about another actor
Ok I figured but had to know because I really like Jared and if I missed him in an Amityville movie I was going to have to find it
@@ericastein3926 honestly, same lol I'm to assume then in saying, hello there fellow Supernatural fan! XD
I love how quickly the supernatural Fandom shows up🤣 I legit rewind after he said Jared Padalecki just to make sure too. Lolol what's up fam!✌️😄
What lasting long term effects does lsd have? I've found nothing that says that to be true.
Best lore.
I love your series. Just watched the episode-on the Amitityville House. You mentioned that Jared Padalecki starred in an Amitityville movie, but when I check his IMDB link it shows no such movie?
Yeah I mixed things up, he was in House of Wax that year, remake of Amityville was Ryan Reynolds
Americas Untold Stories blows this video out of the water go watch that one instead, you will realize how insulting this one is.
So far there are at least 17 Amityville movies.
I thought there were over 20?
A gun expert told a news channel I watched told the show host the blasts from that type of gun was too loud to go that un-noticed , so they either made that up or it didn't happen that way assuming the story's even true. But it makes damn good fiction. We'll never know what really happened. The expert predicted.
That's the first time I ever heard someone reference the Ocean Avenue song.
>used cars sales man makes a ton of money
>Genoweze familly connection
Well, theres your answer.
This case Is example of Ambient haunting. Strange shit did happen but full on encounters were rare, But the fact they ditched the house after 28 days make me wonder If there downplaying what happened.
I have heard that real estate agents later experienced bizarre things
Watch American untold stories on this case. Love your work Lore Lodge.
One thing i want to make clear is 1. Mentally ill people are much more likely to be victims of violence than perpatrators 2. Same for drug addicts although not as skewed as much as just mentally ill people 3. Antisocial personality disorder does not give you psychosis, it means you have no empathy and poor impulse control which DEFINATELY would make you knowingly anihilate your family and it isnt because voices tell you to. Its because antisocial personality disorder gives you a disregard if not hatred of anything you cannot fully control
I know there's some debunking effort made about the account including the stepson of Mr. Lutz (however if you watch interviews with the stepson Daniel it's obvious he is at best unstable and that he's a VERY biased source as he hates George's guts to this very day). If you listen to the interview by Art Bell and Mr. Lutz in full I think it's pretty obvious he's sincere and telling the truth. What the author (Jay Anson) and the Warren's did with this account after the fact is not the fault of the Lutz's.
‘Don’t call the warrens, call me’. We would need a Ouija board or something to call the warrens these days
We’re gonna need the Warrens to contact the Warrens
My belief is Ronnie killed his family in cold blood although it's hard to know how nobody woke up after the first shot so whether they were drugged or something supernatural is in play I don't know. The Lutz's were haunted by the confused and angry spirits of the murdered family.
My entire neighborhood in San Diego is haunted, everyone that lives here talks about it and has stories
Home is where the heart is.
😂😂😂,DAMN😮😢
The haunting was in the head of the people living there, not in the house. When you think about the occult constantly and you live in a famous murder house, explaining anything that happens as a supernatural occurrence becomes really easy. Also four people rattling around in a six bedroom not quite a manor home this size are going to not maintain or use it to the extent it would take to keep infestations out very easily, and the Lutz family just doesn't strike me as one that was putting extra effort into upkeep of the house they got for cheap.
Great video! I sense you're not a friend of the Warrens?
The Warrens were horrendous grifters who exploited vulnerable people for money. Ed Warren was also a sexual predator who preyed on underage girls (apparently with Lorraine's blessing). They're dead so now their daughter and son-in-law continue the grift in their name.
There was a three-part documentary done not that long ago where Lutz's son was interviewed. Apparently lots would beat the crap out of his son. And shortly after they moved in the house lots was very interested in aleister Crowley and talking about witchcraft.
That intro ✨🤌✨
I agree - the version you suggest is the closest to what actually happened
I'm pretty sure there was a document I read about the remote viewing detailing a man who drew out an entire Iraqi military base by using remote viewing. Just something that I would consider to be relatively successful. I remember really enjoying reading that, so definitely worth a look!
Yeah I was wondering if he has never heard of Russel Targ I believe his name is. He’s the one who ran the CIA program here in America. I think it was successful. Maybe not but I really enjoy listening to Russel about all that they did inside that program.
I agree. Something was there but who knows? Most likely not to the extent that was reported.
The car dealership where Mr. DeFeo worked was owned by his father-in-law. Mr. DeFeo did not make that much money. The DeFeos (a couple with 5 kids) had been living in a cramped Brooklyn apartment until Mrs. DeFeo's father helped them buy the home in Amityville.
The Smurls, formerly of West Pittston, PA, please, thanks.
@KatcoMedia did a long ass doc on the DeFeo murders, really interesting
Remote viewing had around 80% success, but officially the military intelligence claimed it had "no" success, so that they could defund it. Most likely to continue parapsychology research with newly-hired staff, sacking the old staff, and making it secret again. People who participated in the military intelligence and developed remote viewing entirely dispute the military intelligence's claim that remote viewing had "no" success.
“They never really noticed” ok that’s like saying virtually that means they saw something and haven’t told anyone and it makes it sound like they told you personally
i know this video is a little older but i’m a fellow resident of amityville, i’ve been trick or treating in south amityville because that’s where all the rich white people live so better candy, not to mention a cool ass block party during halloween. i went with some friends and their parents one halloween and they seemingly knew the owners of the house at that time. they said that they’d sometimes hear footsteps and occasional knocking upstairs but that’s really it. i believe that people come and go in that house. also they’re very private, you’re not even allowed to loiter around the house there’s even a sign up lol. if you even look up the house on google maps it’s all blurred out. also amityville is just a very weird town in general, there’s a free masons lodge right next to the church in the village. if you look at the photos of the masonic lodge on google maps someone took a photo of the amityville horror house and for some reason is posted up on there. like i said a very weird town
12:00
Yes, but it doesn't really sound like a gunshot(s).
It sounds more like a fight between a tool chest, and typewriter.
Listening from the ukwales❤