Wow, Wendigoon and Aiden committed suicide at the same time, in the same day, killing each others in a suicide pact despite being found thousands of miles from one another, both tied with their hands behind their backs and shot in the back of their heads, and with hundreds of gigabytes of CP stashed in old Windows 98 computers in their basements despite neither of their houses having a basement.
Crazy how Aiden shot himself 10 times in the head, stabbed himself 12 times in the chest, and mutilated himself beyond recognition and he left his tea on which started a fire and burned down his house and his corpse walked itself to the lake which is where it was found, R.I.P. brother
Yup. You’d be amazed how many Los Angelenos can tell you some connection they have with Charles Manson. Especially if you’re speaking with someone who had any experience whatsoever with drugs.
Albert Hofmann wasn't a Nazi; he was a Swiss based chemist who tested LSD on himself and his friend Ernst Junger (who twice declined a seat in the Reichstag when offered to him by the Nazi party, and was later implicated in a plot to kill Hitler). I think there is some confusion between Hofmann, a Nazi member who shared the same name with a different spelling (Albert Hoffman), and the testing of mescaline by Kurt Plotner on people imprisoned in concentration camps . Plotner was later recruited by US intelligence to work with them on MK Ultra. (Apologies if people are seeing this and another similar comment from me - my original comment disappeared, but some people say they can see it).
Was looking for this comment. Not the first time dude has spread misinformation about psychedelics. Pretty much my only criticism of the channel though.
I was about to bring up this too. The Nazis did in fact discover a chemical's properties accidentally in the same fashion as Hoffmann found LSD around the same time, this substance was an organophosphate nerve agent called TABUN. The two scientists had a puddle of the stuff on the counter and they went to wipe it up, both of them ended up in the ICU for almost two months.
Yeah, I don't know where he got that information from, I also don't get how you can think a swiss scientist living in Switzerland was a nazi when Switzerland maintained armed neutrality during WWII? Love this guy's channel but that misinformation and the mispronunciation of mescaline makes it clear he doesn't know much about psychedelics lmao
What I hate about the Manson story is that they were so close to (accidentally) killing a rapist but instead killed an innocent, by most accounts a genuine and generous person.
@@goldenapplesaga5446 Wendigoon has a great video on how the CIA used vampires to take control over a country via fear tactics and taking advantage of local urban legends
I was just starting school when all this Manson stuff was happening. Hearing about Helter Skelter and how crazy these people were, it was really a scary time. They were in the news, their faces on tv all the time, and then later they made that movie "Helter Skelter"! It's always been a creepy story!
I've always thought that that time must've been a crazy one to be going to school in, just trying to go about life with multiple active serial killers in the state. I guess you just had to get on with it, huh? My parents grew up during a time of civil war in my country and they said it was just normal; scary, but their normal. After the ceasefire was very confusing for them because they'd never lived in peacetime.
I just subscribed to this guy like today, been watching him for a few days now, and the second he said the Beatles were overrated was the second I realized ima be watching these videos for years to come
@@thesaltyadept7104 albert hoffman (nazi born in 1907) is not the same man as albert hofmann (creator of lsd born in 1906) they just have almost the same name, the nazi died in 1972, and the scientist didnt pass until 2008
LSD and criminals is oddly a major factor in the history of my hometowns area. I grew up in Midland Ontario (Canada). The next town over, Penetang, was home to Oakridge Asylum (the asylum was later changed in name but not function). From the 60-70s they worked with the US CIA and used criminally insane (or legally labelled such, many were young men simply arrested while stoned or drunk and mislabeled as unstable when merely intoxicated) to test LSD and cruel "therapies". The goal was to make perfect trained killers for the army. Instead they just turned a bunch of minor delinquents into legit psychopaths. It was bad enough that our Federal Government found the facility guilty of gross abuse of rights and closed it down after a major class action suit that reached out Supreme Courts
Helter Skelter is actually what kids in Britain called a spiral slide on the playground lol "I get to the bottom and go back to the top of the ride" Paul McCartney explained it in an interview, it's ok if you don't like the Beatles we just have different tastes 💕 much love
Linda Kassabian drove the car because she was the only one who had a valid drivers license. She stayed with the car and did not kill anyone. This is why she was offered a plea deal if she testified against the others.
It's been proven Tex was actually driving the car. And Sharon Tate had 8 stab wounds to her back in accounted for? Linda may have actually stabbed her.
@@DiegoAlvarezBeltran1993. I left Ohio before I was a year old. Im a vagabond. I've lived in FL CO CA WI KY France England Portugal for a couple days Iceland Spain Cheque RUSSIA I've only been to Ohio once since I as born and I was on my way to KY
One note about Manson’s 1967 release: Manson was scheduled for release on March 21, 1967, following completion of a ten-year sentence for forging a Treasury check. Manson begged prison officials to allow him to stay--prison, he told them, was his home. Unable to comply, the State of California released Charles Manson.
my grandfather was also a victim of MK Ultra. he accidentally blew off his own leg at the knee while hunting and while he was hospitalized at Balboa, he claimed he would lie there and watch the crews loading and unloading the ships at the docks. the ocean is 7 miles away from the medical center, he was just hallucinating his ass off
i brought up a book i'd got in DVNP called 'desert shadows' by bob murphy to my grandparents who live near DVNP, and they dropped the bombshell that one of their family friends was involved in the barker ranch raid. (also apparently a few of the women stopped by my grandparents' church for baby supplies before manson's arrest) so this case has another level of wild to me lmao
For the first minute, you literally describe my own beginnings... I never realized how sad my early existence was, until someone said it in such a tone. Lol
Love the video! Idk if you’ve read the book Chaos by Tom O Neil but if you’re interested in this you should definitely read it it’s an even more in depth story of the Charles Manson story and I mean IN DEPTH. Highly recommend
I'm pretty much positive that's where they got a lot of their information because most of the stuff about the CIA giving Manson the LSD was from O'Neil's book. I couldn't find information from any other reputable sources that corroborate that detail but I don't necessarily think this makes it not true.
I thought about messaging them about this directly. The fucking field operative that ran MK ULTRA’s field operations, Jolly West, is also the guy brought in to “ psychoanalyze” Jack Ruby, ya know….the guy who spontaneously decided to kill the guy who killed the president and also just happen to have a history of being an informant for the federal government prior. This is also the same guy, Jolly West, that admitted the infield tests they have discovered a way through hypnotherapy to induce permanent psychosis, which is exactly what happened to Jack ruby, after 30 minutes alone, and an interrogation room which of all people jolly West.
25:21 the beatles I guess could be considered overrated by today's standards but in the 60s they were ahead of their time and that's the main reason they are still relevant
Small correction: Lynette Fromme attempted to kill Gerald Ford, not Jimmy Carter 😉 AFAIK her gun wasn't even loaded, so it's debated whether she really just wanted to cause a scene or if she was just too stupid to check lmao
Bravo! Loved it! Just found this channel and I’m already a fan. Learned so much about the Manson story than I knew and your angle about MK-U (normally not a focus in the documentaries) is entirely plausible. Keep it up!
A suspended sentence is basically just a sentence in wait , say you get 10 years suspended , next time you’re in a court for fucking up you’re getting that 10 rammed right up yer…😮
Whitey Bulger, the basis for the movies The Departed and Black Mass, Boston's biggest Irish gangster who turned an FBI agent to work for him....also in the Acid tests and would later say he suffered constant headaches and only seemed at peace after killing.
RIP Aiden, its shocking to belive that he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head and then stabbing himself 13 times in the chest, finally walking 50 miles to the nearby forest where he finally died. It is truly saddening that we lost such a great man so soon 😞
It was common in Appalachia at one time to name your sons after famous military figures. I had an uncle named "General Sherman"(whose daughter married a guy named "General Jackson"), and another uncle named "Admiral Dewey". 😮
A Helter Skelter is a British fair ride. Its shaped like a lighthouse You climb inside stairs up to the top, step out onto a slide that coils around the outside. You slide down to the bottom, then of course climb to the top and slide down again over and over.
I had no idea Manson was in Indiana for awhile!!! There was a Mason-like murder back in the 1970's that had everyone upset and scared and armed (in Indiana) Some guys tripping on acid broke into a home. They had the mom and her sons(I can't remember if their were 3 or 4) lay face down on the floor and hold hands and shot each one in the head. The mom ended up living through it because she wore a wig and the bullet just grazed her skull. This guy was on the run for awhile. He was caught and arrested and eventually died in prison. Drollinger was his name.
Great job, small correction. Gerald Ford was the president that Lynette Squeaky Fromme attempted to assassinate. And Spahn really is pronounced spawn (like what salmon do). I grew up in that area so have a bit of an edge in that respect. Anyway, love your channel and work. Always look forward to it. Respect
I keep thinking of Bonnie and clyde. Not Bonnie so much, but Clyde’s story was like Mansons. When you have them being punished for survival and then abused because they were weaker…..didn’t society create the monsters we then claimed to hate?
Oh my goodness! LOL! “Don’t do *anything* with charming attractive steel guitar playing gurus from L.A.” Yes. Correct. Wise words. And this is why I like your channel. LOL!
I really enjoy your vids man, super informative and entertaining fr. Also you look like the other RUclipsr “goblin” if he never did drugs in a difrent reality😂 in a good way tho. Keep up the work🎉
I was a young child when the murders occurred. We lived in Simi Valley near (sounds like) SPAWN ranch and rode my bicycle past it many times.. They were already arrested... All my friends stated he would steal food in their houses in Simi... In addition, Beatles were creating backwards masking on their records which is why Manson took it a step further and thought Helter Skelter had subliminal messages. This was popular with records of that time. For example, one of the Beatles song, Revolution, you can hear when playing the record in the opposite directoon.Turn me on, dead man. Also, other groups used backward masking like ELo etc. As a young kid I was aware of this, about10 or 11 years old. This was long after Manson was in jail. I guess it was what made the rock music more exciting and controversial at the time. Manson was talking about the subliminal messages, and of course, he heard something different than the rest of us. I don't know if this helped. It was hard to explain, but it was the culture of the 70s. Great research. I watch you all the time. Very intelligent and gutsy. I like that you deliver strong views and at the same time both view points... keep it going..
Great video, very informative. Just one little criticism, though; a 22LR wound can absolutely kill you haha. Like any bullet, it depends on where it goes.
Definitely more of fan after your statement about the beetles and bob dylan. Thank you!! Im not alone anymore lol. Segway, the beetles might be a good topic. Also, aleister crowley and his music connections.
“When Helter Skelter came out, the Beatles were not yet the Beatles as we know them today, they were a cultural icon but they were not yet ‘The Beatles’ ”? Uh what? The white album was one of their later albums, they had been the biggest band in the world for five years. This was post beatlemania, and at the time the white album was argued by some, and still is, as marking the downhill of their career, as they had already peaked with Revolver and Sgt Pepper. And saying they’re overrated isn’t a hot take, people have been saying that for 60 years. I wouldn’t say Bob Dylan is overrated either, I’ve hardly ever heard anyone talk about his music aside from the stereotypical protest songs when talking about the 60s. He was a great lyricist, guitar player, singer and songwriter
Leslie Van Houten was released July 11, 2023. She’s 73 and is fully rehabilitated. Patricia Krenwinkel is up once again for parole this Nov. 2023. She is also fully rehabilitated. Charles Watson doesn’t come up for parole again until Oct. 2026. I’m certain he will die in prison. And maybe Patricia Krenwinkel as well, although she has been recommended for parole a few times. She’s basically a political prisoner at this point. It’s very clear she has done a ton of work to rehabilitate. The 3 renounced Charles Manson and their beliefs in him long ago.
Just so everyone knows, a suspended sentence does NOT mean you’ll have to go to jail, just not at that point in time but you have to go later. What a suspended sentence is is you only have to go to jail IF you get in trouble again during your probation. If you stay out of trouble for your whole probation, you’re fine. if you get in trouble again while on probation, you not only go to jail for your probation violation, but you also go for your suspended sentence. THATS what a suspended sentence is. Source: I’ve had more than one suspended sentence in my life
I’ll never forget the day when aiden threw a slim Jim into his own planes engine causing catastrophic engine failure thus resulting in his plane crashing into the Atlantic Ocean, where his entire production crew, plane crew, and family were lost at sea. (Bodies weren’t recovered the government made me eat them to see if they could control my mind)
I appreciate that youth can unearth better history than many elders. Apparently you got the lsd scientist mixed with a real n azi, however im sure technology can be used to edit such. Keep up the amazing revelations.
Another fun fact about Danny Trejo. He came and spoke at my high school (wayyy back in 200...5? 6?) as part of an anti-drug campaign and it ended up being just him telling ridiculous stories about his substance fueled shenanigans (peppered with plenty of colorful language of course) to an entire gymnasium of high schoolers sitting at rapt attention while the adults looked on in horror. I come from a pretty small farming town in Indiana. Think Bibles, shotguns, corn and racism. Needless to say that was by far the best assembly I ever witnessed in my academic career. 10/10. Trejo is a legend.
Apparently Steve McQueen was supposed to be there that night and had he been there I think he would’ve changed the outcome as he was known to carry a gun and was a proficient martial artist
I read the book exploring the link. There was weird stuff going on but so many records had been destroyed it is impossible to be definitive. I felt like the book kept promising amazing revelations but didn't really deliver. It was an interesting take. It's also possible that the parole officer was just into drugs, wouldn't be the first person in law enforcement who wasn't law abiding. Manson's final interview... Didn't he say it was mostly money problems? He debunked a lot of the conspiracies but was it his final manipulation? Low key feel like he was on holiday from his real life in prison, he did ask not to be released, then messed around until he never got out. Who knows, a perfect storm of personalities and circumstances
I'm much less familiar with the "revenge killings" in the seventies, with the exception of the political assassination attempt. Would LOVE to see a vid on this. Thanks. I've watched a bunch of docs on this subject, you guys did your research. Bravo.
I agree Ford was almost killed twice during the visit to CA, Ok Squeaky didn't load the gun and just wanted to discuss the redwood rain forests which were being destroyed in NP CAL. They eventually had to shut down the pulp mill and stop with lumber, They had weed as it turned out. Anyway, on the last leg of the visit a woman from the SLA took a shot at Ford, but she hit a cabbie the groin. She actually shot a guy and she did a lot less time than the manson girl.She never robbed any banks, kidnapped an heiress or terrorized the general population. She threw an apple at some lawyer during her trial and had good aim because it hit him on the head, which sounds kinda funy as did the rest of the trial bc she has a quirky wit.
what's funny is Manson spent his time in Wv near Moundsville and there's a town right across the river in Ohio called Bellaire. So yea he probably at some point went to Bellaire lol
I live in WV and I’ve visited the Moundsville Penitentiary a few times. They have a framed letter hanging on the wall there written by Charles Manson requesting that he be transferred there to be closer to his mother (it’s pretty close to the Ohio river, if I’m not mistaken). Of course, he was denied.
Wow, Wendigoon and Aiden committed suicide at the same time, in the same day, killing each others in a suicide pact despite being found thousands of miles from one another, both tied with their hands behind their backs and shot in the back of their heads, and with hundreds of gigabytes of CP stashed in old Windows 98 computers in their basements despite neither of their houses having a basement.
F
Nah this isn't controversial at all
Someone who will probably get bumped off and have a fake suicide note is Ye west
Is this how it feels like to have a stroke
Rest in spaghetti never forghetti
Crazy how Aiden shot himself 10 times in the head, stabbed himself 12 times in the chest, and mutilated himself beyond recognition and he left his tea on which started a fire and burned down his house and his corpse walked itself to the lake which is where it was found, R.I.P. brother
Aiden fell off a dock into the river after cutting his feet off 😔
cringe
@@coreymeadows8842 kronle?
It's almost as unbelievable as someone's comment having the punctuation of a dead fish.
It was clearly self inflicted.
RIP in peace, Aiden. Flew too close to the feds
The Agency. The "feds" refers to the FBI.
@@propakindustries22 feds = federal agents
@@propakindustries22 not just them lol. All of the three letter agencies
rest in pussy, king 🤴.
@@zuckdaddy1596 they all glow
RIP Aiden,
He died by shooting himself in the back in the head with a shotgun while having his hands tied behind his back. Such a tragic death
Then he zipped himself into a suitcase in the woods. Such a weird accident.
@@kyra3447he dropped himself into a river in the woods while inside the suitcase. Poor Aiden 😔
"What happens when the cia feeds LSD to a career criminal..." man that's just how California works.
True story
Yup. You’d be amazed how many Los Angelenos can tell you some connection they have with Charles Manson. Especially if you’re speaking with someone who had any experience whatsoever with drugs.
@@nattamused9074Hell, I'm not even from LA, but back in my punk days I knew Bobby Beausoleil's nephew. His family didn't talk much about uncle Bobby.
Albert Hofmann wasn't a Nazi; he was a Swiss based chemist who tested LSD on himself and his friend Ernst Junger (who twice declined a seat in the Reichstag when offered to him by the Nazi party, and was later implicated in a plot to kill Hitler). I think there is some confusion between Hofmann, a Nazi member who shared the same name with a different spelling (Albert Hoffman), and the testing of mescaline by Kurt Plotner on people imprisoned in concentration camps . Plotner was later recruited by US intelligence to work with them on MK Ultra.
(Apologies if people are seeing this and another similar comment from me - my original comment disappeared, but some people say they can see it).
Was looking for this comment. Not the first time dude has spread misinformation about psychedelics. Pretty much my only criticism of the channel though.
I was about to bring up this too. The Nazis did in fact discover a chemical's properties accidentally in the same fashion as Hoffmann found LSD around the same time, this substance was an organophosphate nerve agent called TABUN. The two scientists had a puddle of the stuff on the counter and they went to wipe it up, both of them ended up in the ICU for almost two months.
Yeah, I don't know where he got that information from, I also don't get how you can think a swiss scientist living in Switzerland was a nazi when Switzerland maintained armed neutrality during WWII? Love this guy's channel but that misinformation and the mispronunciation of mescaline makes it clear he doesn't know much about psychedelics lmao
Thank you for clarifying this very important point for the unaware.
He also had offices close to Carl Jung, who definitely experimented.
What I hate about the Manson story is that they were so close to (accidentally) killing a rapist but instead killed an innocent, by most accounts a genuine and generous person.
The C!A are like cartoon villians, their commitment to terror is impressive.
Charles Manson and vampires, who knew the CIA was so good at making monsters
Vampires?
Pretty sure Bedtime Stories covered the CIA vampire taking over a country thing.
@@goldenapplesaga5446 Wendigoon has a great video on how the CIA used vampires to take control over a country via fear tactics and taking advantage of local urban legends
Manson : I need to go get groceries
Manson : steals car to get thare
Charles Mansion’s life was literally the ultimate crossover event
I was just starting school when all this Manson stuff was happening. Hearing about Helter Skelter and how crazy these people were, it was really a scary time. They were in the news, their faces on tv all the time, and then later they made that movie "Helter Skelter"! It's always been a creepy story!
I've always thought that that time must've been a crazy one to be going to school in, just trying to go about life with multiple active serial killers in the state. I guess you just had to get on with it, huh? My parents grew up during a time of civil war in my country and they said it was just normal; scary, but their normal. After the ceasefire was very confusing for them because they'd never lived in peacetime.
I just subscribed to this guy like today, been watching him for a few days now, and the second he said the Beatles were overrated was the second I realized ima be watching these videos for years to come
lmao same
Beattles sucked...
Thank god finally people who agree. The Beatles were god awful
They were a good cover band.
The guy how invented lsd was not a Nazi, he was swiss, not German. Curious where you got that idea from
Im not familiar with it but perhaps he worked for the nazis? I mean same difference? Idk 🤷🏼♂️
Fuck no he wasnt a nazi, he’s one of the most important men in history in my opinion
I just looked it up, there was an Albert Hoffman who was a nazi, but not the one who invented lsd
@@thesaltyadept7104 Wie bitte!?
@@thesaltyadept7104 albert hoffman (nazi born in 1907) is not the same man as albert hofmann (creator of lsd born in 1906) they just have almost the same name, the nazi died in 1972, and the scientist didnt pass until 2008
albert hofmann, the discoverer of lsd, was not a nazi
Louder for the people in the back. 👏👏👏
he thinks this because Albert Hoffman was a leader of the nazi party, but theyre just different alberts born a year a part
Hoffmann-LaRouche
The “I’m the devil, and I’m here to do the Devils work” in Devils rejects sounds so much better tbh
LSD and criminals is oddly a major factor in the history of my hometowns area. I grew up in Midland Ontario (Canada). The next town over, Penetang, was home to Oakridge Asylum (the asylum was later changed in name but not function). From the 60-70s they worked with the US CIA and used criminally insane (or legally labelled such, many were young men simply arrested while stoned or drunk and mislabeled as unstable when merely intoxicated) to test LSD and cruel "therapies". The goal was to make perfect trained killers for the army. Instead they just turned a bunch of minor delinquents into legit psychopaths. It was bad enough that our Federal Government found the facility guilty of gross abuse of rights and closed it down after a major class action suit that reached out Supreme Courts
As interesting as this is, I still need to know how many cars Manson stole.
not. Enough
A lot
All of them
Yes
Really enjoying this video so far! Didn’t know the CIA was involved with him 😅 veryyyy interesting!
Read Chaos. It turns the case on its head
Manson was born with a +500 modifier on charisma
lol
Helter Skelter is actually what kids in Britain called a spiral slide on the playground lol "I get to the bottom and go back to the top of the ride" Paul McCartney explained it in an interview, it's ok if you don't like the Beatles we just have different tastes 💕 much love
That song is about cocaine I believe
@@jeremyt4292 I don't think so, they also made it in response to a really heavy rock album that came out at the time.
@@brandonharkins6900That is how I understand it too. Inspired by the spiral slide and contemporary heavy rock. ❤ The Beatles 😇
Came here to say this! Thanks, Brandon!!
Please do a video on the MK Ultra. I love your information you compile on everything!
Linda Kassabian drove the car because she was the only one who had a valid drivers license. She stayed with the car and did not kill anyone. This is why she was offered a plea deal if she testified against the others.
It's been proven Tex was actually driving the car. And Sharon Tate had 8 stab wounds to her back in accounted for? Linda may have actually stabbed her.
I know if I were born in Ohio, I'd have absolutely no choice but to break from reality just to no longer be in Ohio.
I was born in Cinncinati and Im woefully grounded in reality
@@arielbonzai462
I'm sorry you're stuck in Ohio.
@@DiegoAlvarezBeltran1993. I left Ohio before I was a year old. Im a vagabond. I've lived in FL CO CA WI KY France England Portugal for a couple days Iceland Spain Cheque RUSSIA I've only been to Ohio once since I as born and I was on my way to KY
Pigs meant fat cats, rich people, bourgeois.
Charles was a main character and was doing an evil playthrough
I think this is the most in-depth video essay of Manson I've ever seen.
Too bad it messes some things up.
Babe wake up, theres a new lore Lodge video.
One note about Manson’s 1967 release: Manson was scheduled for release on March 21, 1967, following completion of a ten-year sentence for forging a Treasury check. Manson begged prison officials to allow him to stay--prison, he told them, was his home. Unable to comply, the State of California released Charles Manson.
my grandfather was also a victim of MK Ultra. he accidentally blew off his own leg at the knee while hunting and while he was hospitalized at Balboa, he claimed he would lie there and watch the crews loading and unloading the ships at the docks. the ocean is 7 miles away from the medical center, he was just hallucinating his ass off
i brought up a book i'd got in DVNP called 'desert shadows' by bob murphy to my grandparents who live near DVNP, and they dropped the bombshell that one of their family friends was involved in the barker ranch raid. (also apparently a few of the women stopped by my grandparents' church for baby supplies before manson's arrest) so this case has another level of wild to me lmao
after getting trapped in a cave wendigoon commited suicide with aiden off a nearby bridge after shooting themselves in the chest multiple times.
For the first minute, you literally describe my own beginnings... I never realized how sad my early existence was, until someone said it in such a tone. Lol
“Dont see how he thought black people werent competent to rule themselves. What about Africa.” I lost it right there 🤣
I worked with a woman who was obsessed with Manson & would argue you blue that he was an innocent man, she also thinks O.J. Simpson was innocent 😂
Love the video! Idk if you’ve read the book Chaos by Tom O Neil but if you’re interested in this you should definitely read it it’s an even more in depth story of the Charles Manson story and I mean IN DEPTH. Highly recommend
I'm pretty much positive that's where they got a lot of their information because most of the stuff about the CIA giving Manson the LSD was from O'Neil's book. I couldn't find information from any other reputable sources that corroborate that detail but I don't necessarily think this makes it not true.
I thought about messaging them about this directly. The fucking field operative that ran MK ULTRA’s field operations, Jolly West, is also the guy brought in to “ psychoanalyze” Jack Ruby, ya know….the guy who spontaneously decided to kill the guy who killed the president and also just happen to have a history of being an informant for the federal government prior. This is also the same guy, Jolly West, that admitted the infield tests they have discovered a way through hypnotherapy to induce permanent psychosis, which is exactly what happened to Jack ruby, after 30 minutes alone, and an interrogation room which of all people jolly West.
Eric Hunley did an interview with Tom O'Neill:
ruclips.net/user/liveWkTO3E89RHE?feature=share
25:21 the beatles I guess could be considered overrated by today's standards but in the 60s they were ahead of their time and that's the main reason they are still relevant
Manson had all the years of probation. . .
Small correction: Lynette Fromme attempted to kill Gerald Ford, not Jimmy Carter 😉 AFAIK her gun wasn't even loaded, so it's debated whether she really just wanted to cause a scene or if she was just too stupid to check lmao
Bravo! Loved it! Just found this channel and I’m already a fan. Learned so much about the Manson story than I knew and your angle about MK-U (normally not a focus in the documentaries) is entirely plausible. Keep it up!
A suspended sentence is basically just a sentence in wait , say you get 10 years suspended , next time you’re in a court for fucking up you’re getting that 10 rammed right up yer…😮
Manson: hey I'm gunna start a drug cult kay?
Parole officer, not looking up from paper: sure Chuck, whatever
Another great video. Keep up the great work!
Whitey Bulger, the basis for the movies The Departed and Black Mass, Boston's biggest Irish gangster who turned an FBI agent to work for him....also in the Acid tests and would later say he suffered constant headaches and only seemed at peace after killing.
RIP Aiden, its shocking to belive that he committed suicide by shooting himself in the head and then stabbing himself 13 times in the chest, finally walking 50 miles to the nearby forest where he finally died. It is truly saddening that we lost such a great man so soon 😞
? Explain please
@@startwithurfeet its a joke
its physically not possible to do that
I suspect, that Once Upon a Time in Hollywood, was Tarantino's homage/love-letter to Sharon Tate
I love the way you tell your stories lol. This one is outrageous
I had a " Indian" Runner duck named after the guy named Colonel mentioned in this video. Keep up the good work and stay safe.
That’s so specific.
Great video guys, top tier ✨✨✨
I love the lore lodge. Good job man keep it up
dude, this was soooo good. 10/10 minty fresh
Loving your channel & your commentary 👏 ❤🎉
11:40
Me as a super villain: WRITE THAT DOWN! WRITE THAT DOWN!
It was common in Appalachia at one time to name your sons after famous military figures. I had an uncle named "General Sherman"(whose daughter married a guy named "General Jackson"), and another uncle named "Admiral Dewey". 😮
I am related to someone whose first name is Admiral. 😂
A Helter Skelter is a British fair ride. Its shaped like a lighthouse You climb inside stairs up to the top, step out onto a slide that coils around the outside. You slide down to the bottom, then of course climb to the top and slide down again over and over.
I had no idea Manson was in Indiana for awhile!!! There was a Mason-like murder back in the 1970's that had everyone upset and scared and armed (in Indiana) Some guys tripping on acid broke into a home. They had the mom and her sons(I can't remember if their were 3 or 4) lay face down on the floor and hold hands and shot each one in the head. The mom ended up living through it because she wore a wig and the bullet just grazed her skull. This guy was on the run for awhile. He was caught and arrested and eventually died in prison. Drollinger was his name.
that poor mom, i cant imagine she enjoyed her life after that
He was in Mexico, Utah, VA, KY, OH, IN, ILL, OR, AL, MS, FL, LA GA He got around
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And that's wikipedia! They change their information frequently to cover for more recent politics
Great job, small correction. Gerald Ford was the president that Lynette Squeaky Fromme attempted to assassinate. And Spahn really is pronounced spawn (like what salmon do). I grew up in that area so have a bit of an edge in that respect. Anyway, love your channel and work. Always look forward to it. Respect
I keep thinking of Bonnie and clyde. Not Bonnie so much, but Clyde’s story was like Mansons. When you have them being punished for survival and then abused because they were weaker…..didn’t society create the monsters we then claimed to hate?
Oh my goodness! LOL! “Don’t do *anything* with charming attractive steel guitar playing gurus from L.A.” Yes. Correct. Wise words. And this is why I like your channel. LOL!
P.S. One of the houses he lived in, is in place in the California desert called Darwin, which basically bears all the marks of a demon camp.
I really enjoy your vids man, super informative and entertaining fr. Also you look like the other RUclipsr “goblin” if he never did drugs in a difrent reality😂 in a good way tho. Keep up the work🎉
Also I agree with you about the Beatles. 😂
Fun fact: Paul McCartney wrote Helter Skelter about a slide. Lol
12:23 appreciate your use of the word “heroic”
I agree, Beatles are overrated! BTW, love this channel! Have learned so much!
I was a young child when the murders occurred. We lived in Simi Valley near (sounds like) SPAWN ranch and rode my bicycle past it many times.. They were already arrested... All my friends stated he would steal food in their houses in Simi... In addition, Beatles were creating backwards masking on their records which is why Manson took it a step further and thought Helter Skelter had subliminal messages. This was popular with records of that time. For example, one of the Beatles song, Revolution, you can hear when playing the record in the opposite directoon.Turn me on, dead man. Also, other groups used backward masking like ELo etc. As a young kid I was aware of this, about10 or 11 years old. This was long after Manson was in jail. I guess it was what made the rock music more exciting and controversial at the time. Manson was talking about the subliminal messages, and of course, he heard something different than the rest of us. I don't know if this helped. It was hard to explain, but it was the culture of the 70s. Great research. I watch you all the time. Very intelligent and gutsy. I like that you deliver strong views and at the same time both view points... keep it going..
Helter skelter theory actually has been dis proved several times. It was a satanic sacrifice. Or over a bad drug deal.
10 year suspended sentence means that the prison time is suspended unless you're convicted of another crime or parole/probation violation.
Great video, very informative. Just one little criticism, though; a 22LR wound can absolutely kill you haha. Like any bullet, it depends on where it goes.
Definitely more of fan after your statement about the beetles and bob dylan. Thank you!! Im not alone anymore lol. Segway, the beetles might be a good topic. Also, aleister crowley and his music connections.
aleister crowleys the goat
“When Helter Skelter came out, the Beatles were not yet the Beatles as we know them today, they were a cultural icon but they were not yet ‘The Beatles’ ”?
Uh what? The white album was one of their later albums, they had been the biggest band in the world for five years. This was post beatlemania, and at the time the white album was argued by some, and still is, as marking the downhill of their career, as they had already peaked with Revolver and Sgt Pepper.
And saying they’re overrated isn’t a hot take, people have been saying that for 60 years. I wouldn’t say Bob Dylan is overrated either, I’ve hardly ever heard anyone talk about his music aside from the stereotypical protest songs when talking about the 60s. He was a great lyricist, guitar player, singer and songwriter
Leslie Van Houten was released July 11, 2023. She’s 73 and is fully rehabilitated.
Patricia Krenwinkel is up once again for parole this Nov. 2023. She is also fully rehabilitated.
Charles Watson doesn’t come up for parole again until Oct. 2026. I’m certain he will die in prison. And maybe Patricia Krenwinkel as well, although she has been recommended for parole a few times. She’s basically a political prisoner at this point. It’s very clear she has done a ton of work to rehabilitate. The 3 renounced Charles Manson and their beliefs in him long ago.
“Like so many cars” 😂😂😂
Great video!
Helter skelter is a giant slide , the song is about riding a slide
That being said now we know what happens to people on a bunch of LSD
¡Gracias!
21:30 it rememberme when Argentina goverment give radioactive milk in social programs in early 90'
Another beautiful example of "Remember kids, the next time that somebody tells you 'the government wouldn't do that' Oh yes they would."
Just so everyone knows, a suspended sentence does NOT mean you’ll have to go to jail, just not at that point in time but you have to go later. What a suspended sentence is is you only have to go to jail IF you get in trouble again during your probation. If you stay out of trouble for your whole probation, you’re fine. if you get in trouble again while on probation, you not only go to jail for your probation violation, but you also go for your suspended sentence. THATS what a suspended sentence is.
Source: I’ve had more than one suspended sentence in my life
I’ll never forget the day when aiden threw a slim Jim into his own planes engine causing catastrophic engine failure thus resulting in his plane crashing into the Atlantic Ocean, where his entire production crew, plane crew, and family were lost at sea. (Bodies weren’t recovered the government made me eat them to see if they could control my mind)
I appreciate that youth can unearth better history than many elders. Apparently you got the lsd scientist mixed with a real n azi, however im sure technology can be used to edit such. Keep up the amazing revelations.
Another fun fact about Danny Trejo. He came and spoke at my high school (wayyy back in 200...5? 6?) as part of an anti-drug campaign and it ended up being just him telling ridiculous stories about his substance fueled shenanigans (peppered with plenty of colorful language of course) to an entire gymnasium of high schoolers sitting at rapt attention while the adults looked on in horror. I come from a pretty small farming town in Indiana. Think Bibles, shotguns, corn and racism. Needless to say that was by far the best assembly I ever witnessed in my academic career. 10/10. Trejo is a legend.
Thanks!
Apparently Steve McQueen was supposed to be there that night and had he been there I think he would’ve changed the outcome as he was known to carry a gun and was a proficient martial artist
I've heard about that study did not know Manson was part of it that's really sad
You would think that after getting caught for so many crimes you would get better at doing crimes.
I read the book exploring the link. There was weird stuff going on but so many records had been destroyed it is impossible to be definitive. I felt like the book kept promising amazing revelations but didn't really deliver. It was an interesting take.
It's also possible that the parole officer was just into drugs, wouldn't be the first person in law enforcement who wasn't law abiding.
Manson's final interview... Didn't he say it was mostly money problems? He debunked a lot of the conspiracies but was it his final manipulation? Low key feel like he was on holiday from his real life in prison, he did ask not to be released, then messed around until he never got out. Who knows, a perfect storm of personalities and circumstances
I agree with you wholeheartedly about the Beatles and Dylan, and I add The Rolling Stones to that list.
We share the same feelings about the ‘60s. People were so gross in that decade.
I'm much less familiar with the "revenge killings" in the seventies, with the exception of the political assassination attempt. Would LOVE to see a vid on this. Thanks. I've watched a bunch of docs on this subject, you guys did your research. Bravo.
I agree Ford was almost killed twice during the visit to CA, Ok Squeaky didn't load the gun and just wanted to discuss the redwood rain forests which were being destroyed in NP CAL. They eventually had to shut down the pulp mill and stop with lumber, They had weed as it turned out. Anyway, on the last leg of the visit a woman from the SLA took a shot at Ford, but she hit a cabbie
the groin. She actually shot a guy and she did a lot less time than the manson girl.She never robbed any banks, kidnapped an heiress or terrorized the general population. She threw an apple at some lawyer during her trial and had good aim because it hit him on the head, which sounds kinda funy as did the rest of the trial bc she has a quirky wit.
This is a informative video.
How is this band not more popular?! Insanely good.
what's funny is Manson spent his time in Wv near Moundsville and there's a town right across the river in Ohio called Bellaire. So yea he probably at some point went to Bellaire lol
You should look into the Unabomber too. He was involved with Mk Ultra when he was at Berkeley
Beatles and Bob Dylan. Yup I agree with you Aiden 😁
Dave McGowan's book Weird Scenes Inside the Canyon puts Manson and the whole Hippie scene in a very interesting light.
Also Reagan was NOT innocent
you've got the coolest job ever
How is every part of this video the most insane one
I would really be interested in a sequel video that goes over what went down after masons arrest.
I live in WV and I’ve visited the Moundsville Penitentiary a few times. They have a framed letter hanging on the wall there written by Charles Manson requesting that he be transferred there to be closer to his mother (it’s pretty close to the Ohio river, if I’m not mistaken). Of course, he was denied.