Exactly! I think the only thing I would miss on a daily driver is the keyless entry. I actually really like the smaller screen and the fact that there are knobs for everything, my 4Runner is like that and that's one of my favorite things about it. Any vehicle that doesn't have manual controls for features is a deal-breaker for me.
@@trailrunnah8886 I guess it all depends on where you live but for me owning a soft top Wrangler I almost never lock the doors. If someone want in it’s pretty easy to get in plus when I take the doors off you can’t lock them anyway. I just don’t leave anything that I care too much about in the Jeep.
@@ANDYDARKO31 that's a really good point, they're so easy to get into anyway with a soft top. That does make sense to leave the doors unlocked, hopefully if they want to break into it they'll try the doors before they slash up the top.
Get a 2 door and no one will ask for a ride lol. Me and my wife plan on having kids and I'm still getting a 2 door bronco. My parents had 2 door SUV and trucks when I was growing up. Never had a problem.
Yep, i like that he got what he wanted rather than let the hype dictate it. While the Bronco is better than a wrangler on paper and in driving impressions, it's not a wrangler!
Imho, you did great. I canceled my order for a Bronco because even though I reserved one the very first day, and Ford did capitulate late in the development to allow a manual trans with the Sasquatch pkg. I just could not justify waiting any longer, especially since I loath IFS and the Wrangler is still true to live axles. You Sir are a fantastic consumer. Great Price. I too like close to base trucks and Jeep with manual trannies and save the Monet for bells and whistles I really would rather spend my money on. All adventure-minded aftermarket upgrades. And Jeep’s are still the most popular vehicle to find quality after market accessories that dealers cant even touch.
Tommy, it’s extremely refreshing to see someone our age purchase something: 1. Without going into debt. 2. Isn’t the flashiest, top end trim in existence. 3. Is spreading a message of “it’s perfectly okay to have what you need and nothing else.” Rather than, “If you don’t have a brand new 4 door rubicon fully equipped, you should even be looking at a jeep trail.” Thank you.
For his purpose, yes I believe he got what he needed. I would have gotten the other little extras like the better radio, matching colored hard top, auto locks and power windows. I mean its nice to penny pinch at some things, but man its hard to swollow how much he paid for his wrangler without those basics. It's almost like he shoulda found himself a deal on a used wrangler with more features. Even though they dont really depreciate much, theirs gotta be one out there with better basic features for less in great condition. no?
@@hakankohkoinen8192 I live in the Rocky Mountains but my 16 Unlimited has been all along the coast of California, Oregon, and Washington. There is some great coastal off roading on the Pacific Coast.
Congratulations! It’s great to see someone being conscious of their finances, but still getting an excellent and capable vehicle they can be proud to own. Fantastic choice!
Tommy has taken these channels to another level. His dad and others started it and made it great, now there are not really any other vehicle review channels that can come close. These dominate for accuracy and truth!! Great job. I applause you guys for working so hard to build an empire.
Looks like you picked a vehicle specifically for your needs. Which is what everyone needs to do, but few actually do. And of course, Blaze comes first ♥️
I LOVE that it’s got a manual trans, manual locks and roll up windows, THATS AWESOME! I thought those days were long gone, hell, even Polaris RZR’s can come with more options than your Jeep these days! I’m a Ford guy myself, but I think your reasons for buying were valid. You purchased what fit your needs best.
Yup, I love my 2018 2-door, manual soft top Wrangler JL. I love it’s retro, bare-bones quality with roll-up windows. The Jeep is so narrow, it’s a breeze to lean over and roll the passenger window down. Less things to break and a hell of a lot lighter. The “man-pedal” gives this light weight Pentastar powered Jeep excellent power control and acceleration. I only wish it had the upgraded Rubicon suspension and wheel wells to accommodate 35” tires like your Willi’s Sport version. Nice!!!!
I had a deposit down the very first day, but I got real tired of waiting past each and every advertised deadlines. I know that anyone who bought the top of the line and got a low build number can resale it without even taking it off the lot and probably make a real pretty penny.
My dog also struggles in the heat so my Gladiator’s rear vents really come in handy for him. It’s something I really didn’t even think about when I got the truck, but I definitely appreciate them for my bud on hot Texas days
Tommy, Congratulations on your new car! I have roughly the same veh, 21 2 door Willys but auto and hard top. You mentioned how you are not thrilled it’s the steering or on road ride. I too had that initial reaction. Eventually I realized that the dealership hadn’t reduced the air pressure in the tires during prep. All four tires were over 45 psi and should be in the mid 30’s. It was like riding on rocks until I aired down. Toward the end of your video you were scrolling through the settings in the dash screen and I noticed your tire pressures were also all in the mid 40’s. Reduce those down to 36 or so (we have different tires, so whatever is recommended on your door sticker) and it will make all the difference in the world. No more wandering steering or jarring suspension over expansion joints. Good luck, hope this helps, and enjoy!
Your viewpoint is the reason I watch TFL……. Love seeing vehicle reviews of base model vehicles instead of the top of line models. Keep doing what you’re doing!!!!
All valid points… I’d have to go with the 4 door myself (kids) but smart decision going with a proven/durable rig for your first new buy. Hope keep offers discounts when things calm down and everyone runs to Ford for new Broncos. Great video Tommy!!!!
Congrats on the first new vehicle purchase. Love the breakdown of your thought process - I think that will be really helpful for others even if they come to a different conclusion. You started with your needs, and then ordered what you needed. Great video.
Government regulations, Labor Unions, and fan boys have ruined literally everything from vehicles to sidexsides..... they do not deserve our business and the free market dosen't deserve our meddling.
@@wildcatoutdoors labour unions are the worst. Assembly line workers at these union factories get $30+ per hour plus generous benefits and pension. Ridiculous.
Tommy, you're an over-thinker and I like it! I'm an early reservation holder on the Bronco, still waiting, and actually reconsidering all the tech I've added to my order. Thanks for all the hard work you put into your craft making relevant content!
ME TOO! I have an eTorque 4CYL, 2-door, (albeit I converted it to a hard top after the fact) and would get this again in a heartbeat. With the extra torque from the mild hybrid system I can act a fool all the time. Ever scared folks doing a fun, smokey drift for a couple hundred feet? Plus, I get 27mpg on long trips
Yep, they make it hard on purpose to get a base model. Fully stocked lots of mid and upper trim vehicles, but if you want a less premium model you need to special order it and wait... They want you to lose patience.
Imagine you own and dealership and maintain a selection of new cars in inventory. Why would you get a base model no options manual trans? Your profit margin is slimmer, and there are far less people interested in a base no option sport than a mid or upper level model. If you want a bare bones wrangler just email the dealers within x miles, 25,50,100 doesnt matter, telk them what you want and make them compete for best price
Congratulations great choice. I work at Jeep I helped launch the 392 the phev and a 3L diesel Jeep Wranglers so I'm proud of what I do. More things to come in the future you just wait and see #JeepLife #JeepFuture
Awesome! I'll probably never be able to own one, but I can't put into words how much I love the 392 Wrangler. I doubt I'll ever get to drive one, but I'm just happy that it exists. It's like that Meme... Ford and GM: "we're now transitioning to electric cars". Meanwhile at Stellantis: "let's Hellcat the minivan!"
This was refreshing! A few years ago, I was driving my old 1991 Jeep Wrangler - very basic compared to modern Jeeps. Your Jeep reminds me of my Jeep. Also, it seems no matter what kind of Jeep Wrangler you have, another Wrangler driver will generally give the “Jeep Wave” - it is a good feeling whenever I get that wave! I pulled into a gas station once and by chance, I saw a gentleman with an old military Jeep and someone with the latest Rubicon. We ended up having a coffee talking about Jeeps and mutual respect for each other’s vehicles. Enjoy your new ride!
Really like your Jeep! I am one of the lucky ones, My Big Bend 2 door is going to be built in August. Good choice on seat color, I do not like all black interiors either and ordered mine with the Sandstone accents. Black seats show dog hair too! Did not realize they even made totally manually key operated vehicles anymore! Have fun and enjoy you new ride!
I love that you took the time to really look at the pros and cons. This shows you really do love cars lol. Congrats! I’ve yet to buy my first new but I’m holding off because I want to see what the new bronco ends up doing.
Actually like the choice, with the manual trans and minimal electronics there's not a lot to break on there and being your first car you're gonna maintain it meticulously. I don't see myself buying a new Jeep but if I did it would be one like that!
I respect people that go for the bare bones wrangler. It’s meant to be a rough vehicle. It’s personality is spartan by nature. It’s not meant to be a soccer mom transport. You can trace that back to its roots in the military.
It’s weird too, since FORD built a bunch (300,000) of GPWs during WW2. WILLYs built a bunch of MBs (363,000). www.motortrend.com/news/ford-gpw-military-jeep-history I love ALL vehicle in their barebones configuration because they’re easier to repair and cost less to maintain.
@@anthonywheeler6133 And it was Ford who actually came up with the slotted grille idea (the original ones were wires welded together and Ford discovered that it was quicker and cheaper to make a stamped metal part with slots).
My first CJ was a bare bones CJ-7 in 76. The only options were power steering, power brakes, T-18 4 Speed Transmission, Locking Differential with 4.11 gearing, removable hard top and heavy duty alternator and cooling. I paid $3,700 for it and sold it 10 years and 300,000 miles later for $3,500.
Nice buy! Also I honestly like having manual adjust climate controls. Sometimes when its 75 degrees Im cold. Sometimes when its 45 degrees out, I'm hot. With a manual control, I can set the air how I like it. I'm not always happy with the temp that automated climate controls set. Sometimes I feel that automakers put all this junk in cars just so they can justify making higher trim levels and upcharging people.
Great video Tommy, with a positive comparison. I too agree on the Jeep over the Ford, although the Bronco does look great. I have owned several Wranglers in the past with the Pentastar, and haven’t had one problem with them. You have a great looking Wrangler, and optioned out perfectly; red paint, standard trans, two door, in a good trim. Enjoy it sir, and congratulations on your new Jeep.
So what you are saying is you got rid of them pentastars before the vales fell out of the heads. Kind of like the Fiat Ram guy saying I’ve owned 4 Hemi and never had a problem but the second owner had to replace the cam because the lobes wore off it. Ot the F-150 guy who drives his ecoboost 3 years and has no issues but the second guy needs turbos and timing chains Or the Chevy guy …. You get my point, they all wear out too soon compared the 90s vehicles that all went 300k with ZERO engine maintenance
Love the configuration. But if Jeep would lower the price of these to around $25k they would sell 10 times as much. They over price it because they know people who love them will pay that much. But people on the fence have other options.
I have a 2019 wrangler rubicon, 2 door, manual. I paid $36k. I has keyless entry, the bigger screen, and power windows. I traded in my 2017 4 door rubicon with every option. When I saw a 2 door manual, I knew I had to buy it. Even though the new one has less options, I like it a lot better. I just wish I had off road trails where I live.
My very first vehicle I bought was a 1982 CJ7 in college, straight inline 6, manual 5 speed, very basic...and I loved it, very simple like your jeep...even more so. I have owned countless cars and trucks since...some very expensive with all the luxury as well. That CJ7 is the one I'm still the most fond of. I had some great fun memories and experiences that I won't ever forget... 4 wheeling with friends, weekend getaways, cruising with the top off on summer nights with my girlfriend, friends, by myself, etc. Good luck, you'll have fun with it I'm sure.
I went the same direction with my Base Sport Gladiator. No frills, no power anything, and I love it. Check out the Threedom key fob to save some space in your pockets. Bit pricey but it’s about half the size. Enjoy!
I got 2 door Wrangler 10 years ago and with 2 kids it was sufficient for everything we do (including hauling football gear).We even packed for 1 week lake trip including linens just to see if we could (trick is to use cabin space on the sides as well :) ). It is fun vehicle that also very practical for 90% of the cases.
@@t3073-b4i can only get the manual with the smaller motor. And then we wonder why manual trans sales are down. Sometimes I wonder if I'm not the last person to still want to DRIVE my truck instead of ride along inside it.
@@bobbydellaserra441 still, a 2.3 manual Bronco would be quicker than the 2.0 & 3.6 Wrangler. I fail to see what's wrong with it. It's been proven in the Mustang for the last 6 years or so.
@@MrLuisinho90 that may be true. Probably true actually. And I'm not shitting on the 4banger. I'm only pointing out how we can't get the more powerful engine option with the manual trans option and that for this reason the manual trans will have terrible sales numbers further killing the manual trans in the future.
Congrats on your purchase. I am a car/truck guy myself, but I purchased a Bronco due to the Jeep’s uninspiring V6, horrible/loose steering which makes the Wrangler wander all over the road and cramped feeling with 2 normal sized adults in the front seats. As the saying goes, you get what you paid for. Hopefully it works out for you.
I want to add a 2-door Jeep to complement my 4-door & do just that. Remove that back seat & make it a chopper truck. You know how to do it bro - ditch that back seat & roll dirty.
My first new Jeep was a 1976 CJ5 base model with manual and the 232 cid Inline 6. It didn't have air conditioning, or power windows, it had windows that opened with a zipper. It also didn't have any door locks as it had the soft doors. It was great off road and I loved that Jeep. Yours is nicely equipped with just a few options, and I bet much more comfortable than the one I started with. It looks great in red with the Willys package, smart buy! Congrats on your new vehicle, nice choice.
being an Owner of a very capable ARB modified 2019 Jimny, I agree with your POV, reliability, keeping it light.. following the Modus Operandi of the Father of motorised offroad & remote travel-> Ralph A. Bagnold; founder of WWII's "Long Range Desert Group", author of The Physics of Blown Sand and Desert Dunes(1941).The essence is to keep vehicles light, and disregard all non-essentials..
The 2.3 has been used in the Ranger and the Mustang for the last few years and there’s already many of them out there. The 2.7 has been in the F150 for a number of years as well. Both have a proven reliability. I don’t think the drivetrain part of your video is all that valid, for that reason. That Jeep is really nice, though. So I hope it gives you years of fun, memories and reliability.
There's not ranger manual 😅 and the engine configuration is different, the output is different, the 2.7 it's only available in the top two bronco specs and even if they were available there would be a massive dealer mark up + the bronco it's already expensive 😅
Love the Jeep. Nice purchase Tommy. I would have stayed with the darker colors on the inside just for the stain and dirty resistance look. But it does look nice. Keep the videos coming!
Love the way you spec'd the original base model. The Willys is great though too and probably makes more sense for the amount of offroading you'll do. GJ.
Good choice, I am a Ford guy and have a 2 door wildtrack Bronco on order since the day they took reservations. My vehicle will not be built until the 2023 Model year, I have a 2019 2 door Rubicon and may not part with it when the Bronco finally gets built. For all the faults of the wrangler for on road driving the off-road capabilities make up for them.
Congratulations on your first new vehicle Tommy! Thanks for showing us around the Willies edition, most channels focus on the Rubicon, it's interesting to see how the other models are configured. Tough choice to make Bronco vs Jeep; I'm a Jeep fanboy and at my age I'd have a hard time turning down the on road comfort of the IFS. Enjoy the vehicle and keep up the good work!
Just ordered a 2021 2 door Willys sport with the manual transmission about a month ago. Still waiting for it to come in but bought it for a lot of the same reasons as you. Hope you enjoy yours!
Hey Tommy, get some Carhardt seat covers by CoverCraft. Nice heavy duck canvas, and you can put them in commercial tumble washing machines. I’ve had mine in my Power Wagon for 5 years now, and they are so nice with dogs and off-reading. It will save the side bolsters and seat fabric from wearing where you get in and out frequently. Just a thought…
Up here in Canada, we usually also buy a set of real and full sheepskin seat covers that keep our tushes nice and toasty in a cold winter and even well insulated from a hot seat in the hotter summers. They are easy to wash and dry and they do protect your seats well. I also put underneath them a 1.5 inch thick silicone-gel seat pads to soften the blow of the HARD Jeep seats. v
Many people on these videos mispronounce the name “Willys,” saying it as if it were spelled “Willy’s.” John Willys was one of the founder-owners of Willys-Overland, one of the companies that owned the Jeep name and built Jeeps over the years (including WW II with the Willys MB, upon which the Ford GPW was based). It is simply a different spelling of the name Willis (as in Bruce Willis), and that’s how it should be pronounced. Just thought you might like to know.
I thought several manufacturers submitted designs to the military for WWII, Ford being one, and the Ford GPW was its own thing and not based on the Willys. I do know for a fact that the term "jeep" came from Ford's GPW be not Willys MB.
@@brada1997 nah. The Ford GPW is a licensed-copy of the Willys-Overland design. You are right, though, about other manufacturers submitting designs. It just came down to Willys winning the contract, but Willys only had their plants in Toledo (my hometown, Go Rockets!) and the US government said that Ford would be helping out (being huge and all).
I had the same thoughts about no power locks and windows when I bouhgt a Spark LS base model. After a couple months living with it, I regretted not having these items. Sure, you don't NEED them, but it seems like you never really get used to not having them after driving cars that do.
Yeah, a few years back I was really shopping these hard and wanted to buy one, but I didn't have much budget above the sport, and I knew that I would grow to hate manual everything as a daily driver. In a two-door I could deal with the windows, but I don't think I could do without keyless entry. Even a 1997 model year vehicle I owned had that feature. Ended up going with a six-year-old 4Runner, which I was excited about the time, but it's a very "meh" vehicle. Whenever I see a nice Jeep I kind of wish I just bought one of those.
Smaller, lighter, and cheaper than either the Bronco or Wrangler and better spec'ed than the base model of both. Definitely my pick (if living outside of the US)!
And we cant have 2020 jimney's here till 2045.... Yeah usa freedom alright, government telling us what cant be sold here and what we cant import. Used to have an 88 samurai, which we could get the modern version
I love this base jeep content. I was searching for a base gladiator and experienced the same thing, I’d have to configure my own if I wanted it under 40k. Interesting how the base 2D bronco is so much bigger than the jeep. I can’t wait till they compare the two in real world. (Base 2D bronco that is)
I was able to find a stupid good deal on a Willys Gladiator Sport. I got it 14% under MSRP. With a hardtop and auto transmission. I paid 35k. The only thing that is annoying is the lack of power locks. The rear doors are difficult to unlock. Sticker was 41k.
Its perfect Tommy, like my when my 71 fj40 was stock. All the fun stuff without the electrical nightmares you can sometimes get with loaded rigs. Congratulations.
Yeah, I haven't built one on the Jeep page for a while, I kind of gave up on that dream, but I do really like that tan as well. Looks terrific with the red, and it brightens up the otherwise dark interior.
You're views and pragmatism ring true with me. Getting to have these excellent soliloquies from you Tommy is of great value. Great work on your channel 👍🏻
Everything you need and nothing you don't.
Exactly! I think the only thing I would miss on a daily driver is the keyless entry. I actually really like the smaller screen and the fact that there are knobs for everything, my 4Runner is like that and that's one of my favorite things about it. Any vehicle that doesn't have manual controls for features is a deal-breaker for me.
@@trailrunnah8886 I guess it all depends on where you live but for me owning a soft top Wrangler I almost never lock the doors. If someone want in it’s pretty easy to get in plus when I take the doors off you can’t lock them anyway. I just don’t leave anything that I care too much about in the Jeep.
If you live in a place where you don’t need to lock your car - you can leave you car unlocked - I do it all the time
@@ANDYDARKO31 that's a really good point, they're so easy to get into anyway with a soft top. That does make sense to leave the doors unlocked, hopefully if they want to break into it they'll try the doors before they slash up the top.
Used to be the tag line for Xterra adverts 😂
"I wanted the two door instead of the four door, partly because I don't have any friends." Felt that
Tommy, we are your friends ❤️
Man that hit HARD.
Me: 40 with no friends or kids ...oh boi
@@theejoeylee Same... at 57. ouch.
Hey Tommy. I'll be your friend! 😁
Get a 2 door and no one will ask for a ride lol. Me and my wife plan on having kids and I'm still getting a 2 door bronco. My parents had 2 door SUV and trucks when I was growing up. Never had a problem.
It’s never a mistake if you’re happy with it. Congrats on your new Jeep Tommy.
Yep, i like that he got what he wanted rather than let the hype dictate it. While the Bronco is better than a wrangler on paper and in driving impressions, it's not a wrangler!
Imho, you did great. I canceled my order for a Bronco because even though I reserved one the very first day, and Ford did capitulate late in the development to allow a manual trans with the Sasquatch pkg. I just could not justify waiting any longer, especially since I loath IFS and the Wrangler is still true to live axles. You Sir are a fantastic consumer. Great Price. I too like close to base trucks and Jeep with manual trannies and save the Monet for bells and whistles I really would rather spend my money on. All adventure-minded aftermarket upgrades. And Jeep’s are still the most popular vehicle to find quality after market accessories that dealers cant even touch.
Tommy, it’s extremely refreshing to see someone our age purchase something:
1. Without going into debt.
2. Isn’t the flashiest, top end trim in existence.
3. Is spreading a message of “it’s perfectly okay to have what you need and nothing else.” Rather than, “If you don’t have a brand new 4 door rubicon fully equipped, you should even be looking at a jeep trail.”
Thank you.
Also, luxury off-roaders are a contradiction: when you go off road you'll gonna ruin the painted fenders, so they better be hard unpainted plastic.
For his purpose, yes I believe he got what he needed. I would have gotten the other little extras like the better radio, matching colored hard top, auto locks and power windows. I mean its nice to penny pinch at some things, but man its hard to swollow how much he paid for his wrangler without those basics. It's almost like he shoulda found himself a deal on a used wrangler with more features. Even though they dont really depreciate much, theirs gotta be one out there with better basic features for less in great condition. no?
amen
Says he doesn’t have friends. A minute later shows us the cutest heckin friend ever.
there was more than one person in this video?
@@THESLlCK at about 0:24 there's a doggo
@@lavapop1900 I must be blind because I cannot locate the canine
Doggo=best friend
He has man’s best friend..
There's something to be admired about the simplicity of this Jeep
Once you go Wrangler there is nothing else. Biased opinion from someone that lives at 7,200 feet in elevation Rocky Mountains.
@@matthewdufur5489 living at sea level in sweden 😂 but there is nothing else like a wrangler
@@hakankohkoinen8192 I live in the Rocky Mountains but my 16 Unlimited has been all along the coast of California, Oregon, and Washington. There is some great coastal off roading on the Pacific Coast.
Congratulations! It’s great to see someone being conscious of their finances, but still getting an excellent and capable vehicle they can be proud to own. Fantastic choice!
Tommy has taken these channels to another level. His dad and others started it and made it great, now there are not really any other vehicle review channels that can come close. These dominate for accuracy and truth!! Great job. I applause you guys for working so hard to build an empire.
Lol Beta
Agree. Tommy is an excellent reviewer and presenter
Looks like you picked a vehicle specifically for your needs.
Which is what everyone needs to do, but few actually do.
And of course, Blaze comes first ♥️
Your reasoning lines up nearly 100% with why I went with a manual wrangler with a v6 over anything else.
I LOVE that it’s got a manual trans, manual locks and roll up windows, THATS AWESOME! I thought those days were long gone, hell, even Polaris RZR’s can come with more options than your Jeep these days! I’m a Ford guy myself, but I think your reasons for buying were valid. You purchased what fit your needs best.
Yup, I love my 2018 2-door, manual soft top Wrangler JL.
I love it’s retro, bare-bones quality with roll-up windows. The Jeep is so narrow, it’s a breeze to lean over and roll the passenger window down.
Less things to break and a hell of a lot lighter. The “man-pedal” gives this light weight Pentastar powered Jeep excellent power control and acceleration.
I only wish it had the upgraded Rubicon suspension and wheel wells to accommodate 35” tires like your Willi’s Sport version. Nice!!!!
@@jwingo7257 honestly electric window regulators are no more likely to break than manuals, they just see 10 times more cycles in their life.
371 pounds is an absurd amount of weight? Let’s leave my mom out of this.
Somebody break down a wall!
We gotta get this guy's mom outta here.
🤣 😆
@@hhiippiittyy break down the wall and go rent a fork lift
Yall need to stop lol
Literally laughed out loud!
The Bronco seems amazing but I agree about the “first year” concern.
I had a deposit down the very first day, but I got real tired of waiting past each and every advertised deadlines. I know that anyone who bought the top of the line and got a low build number can resale it without even taking it off the lot and probably make a real pretty penny.
Every year is a year 1 with jeep
@@hitman74 negative. My diesel gladiator has been flawless across 10k miles
It's a ranger. It's been around for years
@@mattbrew11 try 100K miles
My dog also struggles in the heat so my Gladiator’s rear vents really come in handy for him. It’s something I really didn’t even think about when I got the truck, but I definitely appreciate them for my bud on hot Texas days
Totally agree with your logic Tommy. That would be exactly how I would order a Wrangler too. Great buy. Enjoy it.
Tommy, Congratulations on your new car! I have roughly the same veh, 21 2 door Willys but auto and hard top. You mentioned how you are not thrilled it’s the steering or on road ride. I too had that initial reaction. Eventually I realized that the dealership hadn’t reduced the air pressure in the tires during prep. All four tires were over 45 psi and should be in the mid 30’s. It was like riding on rocks until I aired down.
Toward the end of your video you were scrolling through the settings in the dash screen and I noticed your tire pressures were also all in the mid 40’s. Reduce those down to 36 or so (we have different tires, so whatever is recommended on your door sticker) and it will make all the difference in the world. No more wandering steering or jarring suspension over expansion joints. Good luck, hope this helps, and enjoy!
Great buy. Manual transmission, manual locks, manual windows-exactly the right way to go.
2 door, soft top, if only they didn't make everything in dash so fancy as well
Mark, does it have a real STICK to shift the transfer case?
and a naturally aspirated v6 engine.
I love manual transmissions, windows and locks! My TJ has manual everything.
No power steering?
Your viewpoint is the reason I watch TFL……. Love seeing vehicle reviews of base model vehicles instead of the top of line models. Keep doing what you’re doing!!!!
We all like what we like; we don’t have to make excuses for our choices.
Merica...
Some people can't get that in their skull.
Couldnt be that he wanted a new car now... and that he'd be waiting another year for a bronco.
lmao she can walk :)
You would do the same if your videos were your primary source of income!
All valid points… I’d have to go with the 4 door myself (kids) but smart decision going with a proven/durable rig for your first new buy. Hope keep offers discounts when things calm down and everyone runs to Ford for new Broncos. Great video Tommy!!!!
Only if it's a daily driver, there's a guy who turned JKU into 7 seater.
Congrats on the first new vehicle purchase. Love the breakdown of your thought process - I think that will be really helpful for others even if they come to a different conclusion. You started with your needs, and then ordered what you needed. Great video.
If Blaze grows much more you'll need an air-conditioned livestock trailer, towed behind the Wrangler to carry him around.
Blaze agrees!!
@@TFLoffroad To carry the dog, fold up the back seats or remove the back seats as I do.
Just remove the rear bench.
And then he'll need a Cummins Diesel powered Ram to pull the trailer!
Never thought I'd see the day a base model no frills car would cost $35,000
Jeep Wranglers have always been the most overpriced vehicles out there.
Even a base model Dodge Grand Crappyvan is 30k
Crazy bought my 99 2 dr 14.000
Government regulations, Labor Unions, and fan boys have ruined literally everything from vehicles to sidexsides..... they do not deserve our business and the free market dosen't deserve our meddling.
@@wildcatoutdoors labour unions are the worst. Assembly line workers at these union factories get $30+ per hour plus generous benefits and pension. Ridiculous.
Tommy, you're an over-thinker and I like it! I'm an early reservation holder on the Bronco, still waiting, and actually reconsidering all the tech I've added to my order. Thanks for all the hard work you put into your craft making relevant content!
Made the same choice…with a hardtop and 2.0 turbo. Love it! Looking forward to more videos.
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ME TOO! I have an eTorque 4CYL, 2-door, (albeit I converted it to a hard top after the fact) and would get this again in a heartbeat. With the extra torque from the mild hybrid system I can act a fool all the time. Ever scared folks doing a fun, smokey drift for a couple hundred feet? Plus, I get 27mpg on long trips
Wife has the 2.0, love that engine!!!
We also got the 2.0. Love the power, sound and MPG’s of that engine.
My 3.8L E-torque is awesome too. Really fast across the light!
If I were in the market for a Jeep that would be the one. Nice Jeep, congrats!
Respect man. You knew what you wanted and how much you were comfortable spending; and you went for it.
No power windows, no power lock, limited slip diff, 4low, centre locking diff. Nice ride!! 😎
Correction: part time 4wd, has no center diff
I hate that it’s so hard to find a base option in stock. Kudos to Tommy for ordering what he wanted. And it’s an instant classic.
Yep, they make it hard on purpose to get a base model. Fully stocked lots of mid and upper trim vehicles, but if you want a less premium model you need to special order it and wait... They want you to lose patience.
Same with the upcoming f150 lightning. They create a base model they never make so they can list the starting price way low
Imagine you own and dealership and maintain a selection of new cars in inventory. Why would you get a base model no options manual trans? Your profit margin is slimmer, and there are far less people interested in a base no option sport than a mid or upper level model. If you want a bare bones wrangler just email the dealers within x miles, 25,50,100 doesnt matter, telk them what you want and make them compete for best price
Bought a 2021 2 door Rubicon at the end of May, so far so good.
Congratulations great choice. I work at Jeep I helped launch the 392 the phev and a 3L diesel Jeep Wranglers so I'm proud of what I do. More things to come in the future you just wait and see #JeepLife #JeepFuture
Awesome! I'll probably never be able to own one, but I can't put into words how much I love the 392 Wrangler. I doubt I'll ever get to drive one, but I'm just happy that it exists. It's like that Meme...
Ford and GM: "we're now transitioning to electric cars". Meanwhile at Stellantis: "let's Hellcat the minivan!"
Absolutly like your choice! A very basic Jeep always has an appealing minimalistic charme.
Good choice of going to the mechanic every month. Only new vehicle with so many problems.
This was refreshing! A few years ago, I was driving my old 1991 Jeep Wrangler - very basic compared to modern Jeeps. Your Jeep reminds me of my Jeep. Also, it seems no matter what kind of Jeep Wrangler you have, another Wrangler driver will generally give the “Jeep Wave” - it is a good feeling whenever I get that wave! I pulled into a gas station once and by chance, I saw a gentleman with an old military Jeep and someone with the latest Rubicon. We ended up having a coffee talking about Jeeps and mutual respect for each other’s vehicles. Enjoy your new ride!
Really like your Jeep! I am one of the lucky ones, My Big Bend 2 door is going to be built in August. Good choice on seat color, I do not like all black interiors either and ordered mine with the Sandstone accents. Black seats show dog hair too! Did not realize they even made totally manually key operated vehicles anymore! Have fun and enjoy you new ride!
I love that you took the time to really look at the pros and cons. This shows you really do love cars lol. Congrats! I’ve yet to buy my first new but I’m holding off because I want to see what the new bronco ends up doing.
Did you consider 4xe? (I know you said no to 4 door)
I’ve got a 2020 3.6 JLUR and the future of that has me curious
Actually like the choice, with the manual trans and minimal electronics there's not a lot to break on there and being your first car you're gonna maintain it meticulously. I don't see myself buying a new Jeep but if I did it would be one like that!
I respect people that go for the bare bones wrangler. It’s meant to be a rough vehicle. It’s personality is spartan by nature. It’s not meant to be a soccer mom transport. You can trace that back to its roots in the military.
It’s weird too, since FORD built a bunch (300,000) of GPWs during WW2. WILLYs built a bunch of MBs (363,000).
www.motortrend.com/news/ford-gpw-military-jeep-history
I love ALL vehicle in their barebones configuration because they’re easier to repair and cost less to maintain.
@@anthonywheeler6133 And it was Ford who actually came up with the slotted grille idea (the original ones were wires welded together and Ford discovered that it was quicker and cheaper to make a stamped metal part with slots).
Congratulations Tommy on your new purchase. I enjoy your reviews and I don’t personally see any real bias in your takes. Keep up the good work!
My first CJ was a bare bones CJ-7 in 76. The only options were power steering, power brakes, T-18 4 Speed Transmission, Locking Differential with 4.11 gearing, removable hard top and heavy duty alternator and cooling. I paid $3,700 for it and sold it 10 years and 300,000 miles later for $3,500.
371 lbs is like carrying around an extra floridian passenger, full time. Who also doesn't pitch in for gas.
It also has more HP with the larger motor so it will be quicker all around.
I’ve enjoyed this video more than most TFL segments. I’m looking forward to more of this.
Tommy - this is a very helpful, pragmatic review. Thank you!
Hi Tommy:
Thanks for sharing your purchase experience with us.
Congratulations!!!, i didn't know it was that much smaller than the bronco but it looks good and the Willys package is perfect.
Nice buy! Also I honestly like having manual adjust climate controls. Sometimes when its 75 degrees Im cold. Sometimes when its 45 degrees out, I'm hot. With a manual control, I can set the air how I like it. I'm not always happy with the temp that automated climate controls set.
Sometimes I feel that automakers put all this junk in cars just so they can justify making higher trim levels and upcharging people.
Great video Tommy, with a positive comparison. I too agree on the Jeep over the Ford, although the Bronco does look great. I have owned several Wranglers in the past with the Pentastar, and haven’t had one problem with them. You have a great looking Wrangler, and optioned out perfectly; red paint, standard trans, two door, in a good trim. Enjoy it sir, and congratulations on your new Jeep.
So what you are saying is you got rid of them pentastars before the vales fell out of the heads. Kind of like the Fiat Ram guy saying I’ve owned 4 Hemi and never had a problem but the second owner had to replace the cam because the lobes wore off it.
Ot the F-150 guy who drives his ecoboost 3 years and has no issues but the second guy needs turbos and timing chains
Or the Chevy guy …. You get my point, they all wear out too soon compared the 90s vehicles that all went 300k with ZERO engine maintenance
I'm happy to see others enjoy the bare bones, no thrills experience ! Less things to go wrong 👍
Love the configuration. But if Jeep would lower the price of these to around $25k they would sell 10 times as much. They over price it because they know people who love them will pay that much. But people on the fence have other options.
Congrats. I like how you thought about your financial limits as well as your intended use, then matched those needs to the vehicle. Nice!
I did the same...I bought the 2021 2DR Rubicon. I had many of the same reasons. BTW I’m getting 22-23 MPG after it had about 5000 miles.
Which engine is in your Rubi ?
What did the total price look like
@@rickreese5794 3.6L E-torque
@@Glamisemt24 Total With tax was 55K...its fully loaded with 100K mile warranty.
@@DUNEATV thanks, I'm on the fence on which to get, pricing seems similar,
Congratulations on the new Willys Jeep, Tommy. You did such a great job making this video. I love watching you and your dad‘s channels
I absolutely love reviews like this where you hear about the actual cost of a realistic car... It one speced to the 9's.
I have a 2019 wrangler rubicon, 2 door, manual. I paid $36k. I has keyless entry, the bigger screen, and power windows. I traded in my 2017 4 door rubicon with every option. When I saw a 2 door manual, I knew I had to buy it. Even though the new one has less options, I like it a lot better. I just wish I had off road trails where I live.
I paid $38k. 2020
Why buy a rubicon if you don’t have off road trails
My very first vehicle I bought was a 1982 CJ7 in college, straight inline 6, manual 5 speed, very basic...and I loved it, very simple like your jeep...even more so. I have owned countless cars and trucks since...some very expensive with all the luxury as well. That CJ7 is the one I'm still the most fond of. I had some great fun memories and experiences that I won't ever forget... 4 wheeling with friends, weekend getaways, cruising with the top off on summer nights with my girlfriend, friends, by myself, etc. Good luck, you'll have fun with it I'm sure.
Sweet ride, Tommy! Great choice for your first, new vehicle paid for with your own coin.
Wow ! can't wait to follow this series! I ordered the same EXACT build around the same time!!!
I went the same direction with my Base Sport Gladiator. No frills, no power anything, and I love it. Check out the Threedom key fob to save some space in your pockets. Bit pricey but it’s about half the size. Enjoy!
Guessing you were missing your 2-Door JK, and felt the need to buy a JL to replace it?
Excellent choice! This should keep you and the channel on Mark Allen's Christmas card list and guarantee that elusive invite to EJS every year. 😂
I got 2 door Wrangler 10 years ago and with 2 kids it was sufficient for everything we do (including hauling football gear).We even packed for 1 week lake trip including linens just to see if we could (trick is to use cabin space on the sides as well :) ). It is fun vehicle that also very practical for 90% of the cases.
The 2.7L has been around since it was put in the 2015 F-150, I have heard good things about that engine.
Can't get it with a manual though
@@t3073-b4i can only get the manual with the smaller motor. And then we wonder why manual trans sales are down.
Sometimes I wonder if I'm not the last person to still want to DRIVE my truck instead of ride along inside it.
The 2.7 in my 2018 F150 was so bad that ford bought it baxj
@@bobbydellaserra441 still, a 2.3 manual Bronco would be quicker than the 2.0 & 3.6 Wrangler. I fail to see what's wrong with it. It's been proven in the Mustang for the last 6 years or so.
@@MrLuisinho90 that may be true. Probably true actually. And I'm not shitting on the 4banger. I'm only pointing out how we can't get the more powerful engine option with the manual trans option and that for this reason the manual trans will have terrible sales numbers further killing the manual trans in the future.
Awesome vid Tommy! I’m ordering a 22 Willys once ordering opens up. This plus your other video on the willys were really helpful.
Congrats on your purchase. I am a car/truck guy myself, but I purchased a Bronco due to the Jeep’s uninspiring V6, horrible/loose steering which makes the Wrangler wander all over the road and cramped feeling with 2 normal sized adults in the front seats. As the saying goes, you get what you paid for. Hopefully it works out for you.
Love your videos, this one was absolutely amazing, thank you for all the information.
Excellent choice and congrats! Willys is by far the best value for Wrangler 👍
I didnt even know you could get something so basic. You look so excited, cant wait to see you offroad in it!
Take the back seat out, u get so much more room in the back of the 2 door.
and much better acess with the rear door!
And get something nice for the dog he will be even happier you dont need them seats anyway lol
I want to add a 2-door Jeep to complement my 4-door & do just that. Remove that back seat & make it a chopper truck. You know how to do it bro - ditch that back seat & roll dirty.
@@bankait_rex1860 F’in a right man!!!
It's a shame they don't split the back seat, that's really my only complaint. Would be a nice compromise for some situations.
Custom seat covers. They fit like a glove, so much so that at a glance they look like a factory option. Saddle Blanket tan would look great.
My first new Jeep was a 1976 CJ5 base model with manual and the 232 cid Inline 6. It didn't have air conditioning, or power windows, it had windows that opened with a zipper. It also didn't have any door locks as it had the soft doors. It was great off road and I loved that Jeep. Yours is nicely equipped with just a few options, and I bet much more comfortable than the one I started with. It looks great in red with the Willys package, smart buy! Congrats on your new vehicle, nice choice.
being an Owner of a very capable ARB modified 2019 Jimny, I agree with your POV, reliability, keeping it light.. following the Modus Operandi of the Father of motorised offroad & remote travel-> Ralph A. Bagnold; founder of WWII's "Long Range Desert Group", author of The Physics of Blown Sand and Desert Dunes(1941).The essence is to keep vehicles light, and disregard all non-essentials..
The 2.3 has been used in the Ranger and the Mustang for the last few years and there’s already many of them out there. The 2.7 has been in the F150 for a number of years as well. Both have a proven reliability. I don’t think the drivetrain part of your video is all that valid, for that reason. That Jeep is really nice, though. So I hope it gives you years of fun, memories and reliability.
The 2.3 non turbo has been around for decades in the Ranger
There's not ranger manual 😅 and the engine configuration is different, the output is different, the 2.7 it's only available in the top two bronco specs and even if they were available there would be a massive dealer mark up + the bronco it's already expensive 😅
Reliability wise, i would go with ford over Chrysler/jeep/ram any day.
My wife speced a 6 speed Sahara, lots of upgrades but cloth seats. Also the limited slip rear Dana 44 and off road Bridgestones. We love it.
Love how you kept it old school Tommy😉👍🏻
Love the Jeep. Nice purchase Tommy. I would have stayed with the darker colors on the inside just for the stain and dirty resistance look. But it does look nice. Keep the videos coming!
One question Tommy… CAN YOU TAKE A SOFT TOP THRU THE CAR WASH???
Tommy i just realized how simple and humble you are as I’m looking into getting into debt with the 4door rubicon with all the bells and whistles
Love the way you spec'd the original base model. The Willys is great though too and probably makes more sense for the amount of offroading you'll do. GJ.
Well, the Bronco still isn’t available. So there’s that.
That’s true
@J Maxes: Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. You are TOO funny ……
Thinking the same thing... I had a deposit on a new Bronco but this wait is just too anticlimactic.
Decided to keep my TJ and s5 instead.
Good choice, I am a Ford guy and have a 2 door wildtrack Bronco on order since the day they took reservations. My vehicle will not be built until the 2023 Model year, I have a 2019 2 door Rubicon and may not part with it when the Bronco finally gets built. For all the faults of the wrangler for on road driving the off-road capabilities make up for them.
You stole my comment LOL!!!
Wanted New Bronco didn’t want to wait a year. So purchased 2021 4Runner TRD Pro.😉🤙
Congratulations on your first new vehicle Tommy! Thanks for showing us around the Willies edition, most channels focus on the Rubicon, it's interesting to see how the other models are configured. Tough choice to make Bronco vs Jeep; I'm a Jeep fanboy and at my age I'd have a hard time turning down the on road comfort of the IFS. Enjoy the vehicle and keep up the good work!
Just ordered a 2021 2 door Willys sport with the manual transmission about a month ago. Still waiting for it to come in but bought it for a lot of the same reasons as you. Hope you enjoy yours!
LOVE BASIC!! Less things that will break!
"I don't have any friends"
Well, me neither.......
Who does in America? You can always make friends with an Antifck or BLaM'r...
You guys should find a weekend and not hang out with each other. :)
Congratulations, Tommy, on your sweet new ride! May you "tear up" many off-road trails while keeping Blaze comfortably cool in the back seat.
Hey Tommy, get some Carhardt seat covers by CoverCraft. Nice heavy duck canvas, and you can put them in commercial tumble washing machines. I’ve had mine in my Power Wagon for 5 years now, and they are so nice with dogs and off-reading. It will save the side bolsters and seat fabric from wearing where you get in and out frequently. Just a thought…
Power wagon don't care...😉
@@Reality_Filter Damn skippy they don’t! (They due care about gas stations thou 🤣)
Up here in Canada, we usually also buy a set of real and full sheepskin seat covers that keep our tushes nice and toasty in a cold winter and even well insulated from a hot seat in the hotter summers. They are easy to wash and dry and they do protect your seats well. I also put underneath them a 1.5 inch thick silicone-gel seat pads to soften the blow of the HARD Jeep seats.
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Many people on these videos mispronounce the name “Willys,” saying it as if it were spelled “Willy’s.” John Willys was one of the founder-owners of Willys-Overland, one of the companies that owned the Jeep name and built Jeeps over the years (including WW II with the Willys MB, upon which the Ford GPW was based). It is simply a different spelling of the name Willis (as in Bruce Willis), and that’s how it should be pronounced. Just thought you might like to know.
Very true, and I call my Doctor, Doc.
I thought several manufacturers submitted designs to the military for WWII, Ford being one, and the Ford GPW was its own thing and not based on the Willys. I do know for a fact that the term "jeep" came from Ford's GPW be not Willys MB.
@@brada1997 nah. The Ford GPW is a licensed-copy of the Willys-Overland design. You are right, though, about other manufacturers submitting designs. It just came down to Willys winning the contract, but Willys only had their plants in Toledo (my hometown, Go Rockets!) and the US government said that Ford would be helping out (being huge and all).
if he didn't want people to say "willies," then he should have learnt how to spell "willis."
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Just curious, are you British? You used the word "learnt" More common in British English than American English.
...ruff ruff ruff 🐶
Lets get to the truths.. Tommy you’re just a keeper at heart and we love you for it.. no need to make excuses for that.. it’s a Jeep thing
And you can’t fix stupid! 🤣
I had the same thoughts about no power locks and windows when I bouhgt a Spark LS base model. After a couple months living with it, I regretted not having these items. Sure, you don't NEED them, but it seems like you never really get used to not having them after driving cars that do.
Yeah, a few years back I was really shopping these hard and wanted to buy one, but I didn't have much budget above the sport, and I knew that I would grow to hate manual everything as a daily driver. In a two-door I could deal with the windows, but I don't think I could do without keyless entry. Even a 1997 model year vehicle I owned had that feature.
Ended up going with a six-year-old 4Runner, which I was excited about the time, but it's a very "meh" vehicle. Whenever I see a nice Jeep I kind of wish I just bought one of those.
I did the same, but later just bought a cheap keyless entry kit from eBay and it worked great
Definitely the most accurate and truthful wrangler review on youtube, well said
As someone that drives a 2020 Suzuki Jimny I like this.
That definitely the best pick out of these 😉
Smaller, lighter, and cheaper than either the Bronco or Wrangler and better spec'ed than the base model of both. Definitely my pick (if living outside of the US)!
And we cant have 2020 jimney's here till 2045.... Yeah usa freedom alright, government telling us what cant be sold here and what we cant import. Used to have an 88 samurai, which we could get the modern version
How’d you get that. But as someone who owns a 2002 Chevy Tracker 2door I agree with you
I love how basic it is. This would be the one I would buy if I didn’t have my LJ. Awesome!
You are the man... TFL is the best and you are part of the greatness... Keep it up
I love this base jeep content. I was searching for a base gladiator and experienced the same thing, I’d have to configure my own if I wanted it under 40k. Interesting how the base 2D bronco is so much bigger than the jeep. I can’t wait till they compare the two in real world. (Base 2D bronco that is)
I was able to find a stupid good deal on a Willys Gladiator Sport. I got it 14% under MSRP. With a hardtop and auto transmission. I paid 35k. The only thing that is annoying is the lack of power locks. The rear doors are difficult to unlock. Sticker was 41k.
@@victorandrade7940 take the doors off and you won’t have to deal w the locks!
Outstanding video Tommy. I do believe you are unbiased.
Its perfect Tommy, like my when my 71 fj40 was stock. All the fun stuff without the electrical nightmares you can sometimes get with loaded rigs. Congratulations.
Love the tan cloth Jeep interior. I also love the willys package. I’ve come to similar conclusions in specing one.
Yeah, I haven't built one on the Jeep page for a while, I kind of gave up on that dream, but I do really like that tan as well. Looks terrific with the red, and it brightens up the otherwise dark interior.
I am on Tommy’s wavelength about simplicity 100%
You're views and pragmatism ring true with me. Getting to have these excellent soliloquies from you Tommy is of great value. Great work on your channel 👍🏻
Bronco is innovative and fresh. Wrangler still looks better. Wrangler would be my choice 100%.