I think you'll find "spinny bit" and "foldy bit" are pretty standard engineering terms along with the "sticky out bit", "curvy bit", "shiny bit" and the "why won't you just fit you annoying little bastard?" bit.
I am getting rather old now; lately I have not had a lot of things to smile about but watching this video I noticed a strange feeling as a smile made it's way onto my face. It was a wonderful feeling, thanks, this little gun is just too cool, I would love to have one in .22
@@Ksportin it's an older gun, they didn't start putting thing-a-majigs in them til 'round 1873, they replaced thingies with thing-a-majigs cause they were more compatible with whats-its, which or course everyone knows were just dodads with slightly adjusted gigits
Indeed, the thought never crossed my mind, however I did work for a 6 month program when I was getting ready to take my honorable discharge from the US Army, they called it project transition, I worked the switching central to the then new William Beaumont Army Hospital in El Paso. it was made of automatic electric stepping system and you are so right.
@@JerryEricsson The amusing thing is when Tommy Flowers was developing the first digital electronic exchange for what was then still part of the General Post Office (it became British Telecom) the management decided to "get ready for the new technology" and they employed an architect to design a high-rise telephone exchange (with strong floors) to provide all the extra floor space that would be needed, and they actually *built* one of these monsters in Bedford! It remains the tallest building in the town; it has never been used as an exchange and it has now been converted into flats, although BT housed their national accounts department in it at one stage without using all the floors. Bedford's actual digital telephone exchange equipment, when installed, fitted into *spare* space in the old telephone exchange building that housed the selector-switch equipment, so the changeover was barely noticed by the public. The four storey building near to the tower, also now converted into flats, may even have been intended for the power supply and cooling equipment for the digital exchange! It's almost as if someone had seen the Colossus computer which Tommy built for Dr Alan Turing during WW2 and multiplied the size and power consumption of that, by the processing power theoretically needed by a digital telephone exchange. Makes me wonder if the Goldington Power station was built to serve the George Fischer ironworks or the proposed digital telephone exchange?
Just no limit to their ingenuity in those days! When you consider the basic level of education back then,the way these people solved problems and put clever inventions into production,really has to be marvelled at.
With the barrel selector on 0 the firing pin is safe. Of course that is a manual operation. I presume the extractor springs are soft enough for them to not fire the cartridges.
I often wonder if the tiny sights on these style of pistols were just a selling point, as I’m guessing most were intended to be used at maximum ranges approaching.....”across the card table” 🎲🎱😉
Neat little gun! Love the dial, and the way it is both an indicator and also part of the actual mechanism for the direction of the firing pin. It would have been even cooler if breaking open the gun would've reset the indicator automatically though! I think it would mechanically be possible, although it would perhaps have to be changed into a top break for it to be easier to engineer.
That is slick. Simple elegant solution. Sights don’t matter too much. It’s a 3 ft away gun. Has a little bit of power. I looked up the ballistics and a 0.32 long rim fire could get 230 ft lbs out of a 90 grain bullet (albeit with a 24 inch test barrel). Lethal though.
Interesting to see an effective firing pin safety on a 150 year old firearm. When the ratchet/dial is in the 0 position the firing pin can't strike the rim of a cartridge, making the derringer completely drop safe in that condition & pocket safe. Me likee.
Great video. I have a handgun book with an entry for this gun but I didn’t realize the size until this video came up. I’m planning to use one in a story and now I have some good background info.
I feel like ironically that system would have lent itself very well to a double action only trigger, by that I mean a linearly sliding trigger with geared teeth to rotate the firing pin machanism
Really love the antique patina on that handsome little pistol. We should all be grateful for the advances in the medical field when reflecting upon the death of Marsten at the age of 50.
William W. Marston patented a number of firearm related ideas but the patent associated with this firearm is 17, 386 Improved Repeating Fire-Arm, 26 May 1857. I could not find, which does not mean there isn't one, a Marston patent dated 1864 that covers the "IMPROVED".
'Did he fire three shots or only two'? Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I kind of lost track myself. But being that this is a steampunk derringer, the most ridiculous handgun in the world, and would blow your top hat & goggles clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'What does the dial say?' Well what do you think it says, steampunk?
Fun fact: Due to the similarity of tools and skills required to repair either in the 1800s, a good many gunsmiths were also clocksmiths and visa versa.
Ian do a video on IverJohnson revolvers. One of my ancestors carried one while he died in asia on a salt delivery. Apparently he slept with the revolver under his pillow which was common in those days. I don't know much about the revolver as it's locked away from my grubby hands but I believe it's a pocket hammer in 38 Smith and Wesson.
My Great Grandfather was a school teacher in North Dakota a century ago, and he carried an Iver Johnson revolver as he rode his _horse_ to the school house every day. Not for "personal protection" but specifically to shoot rabbits. Game animals were a large part of their diet at the time. I still have the thing, and you can still buy .32 S&W it's chambered in. I shoot it on occasion. It makes me happy, although it's an awkward little pistol to shoot.
Would love more info on Iver Johnson, Harrington, and S&W revolver designs so as I can properly identify which models and serial blocks are antique or not.
Just today actually received one of these from a family member, it was in a house fire and in pretty bad shape, looking forward to getting it fixed up. Anywhere I might wanna look for replacement springs?
So insted of having a hand that move the cylinder and align it with the barel on a revolver, we have here a hand which move the firing pin tray and align the firing pin with a barel.
Spinny bits and foldy bits... Your terminology is mind blowingly advanced! I love it. 😉
Definitely a man who finds joy the little things in life.
its a wobbly swirly thing!
@@Revener666 I believe it then becomes *wibbly!*
I think you'll find "spinny bit" and "foldy bit" are pretty standard engineering terms along with the "sticky out bit", "curvy bit", "shiny bit" and the "why won't you just fit you annoying little bastard?" bit.
Terminology is spot on and perfect!
Rifled barrels for those long distance derringer snipers
Somebody needs to reproduce these, very cool and easy to make with CNC equipment.
It’s so flat it would be easy to conceal in a pocket
Bond arms should make a modern one
and charge $1700 for it
I agree
@@Xanatos712 I was thinking .38 special for practical but my first thought was .41 Colt centerfire.
In 45 ACP because good luck getting a bullet to expand at that barrel length.
@@zorro456 I had a .45 derringer once. The bullet bounced off a log. I bet it would sting though.
Derringers are the perfect example of a gun you get before everything else in a doom clone
I like your Profile picture.
Youre clearly a man of culture!
Like a Liberator, which you only use during the tutorial to whack a Nazi train guard and take his MP40.
A gentleman's weapon , ideally paired with a sword stick in case you are accosted by more than three ruffians at once .
Who needs a sword cane when you the attached 2" long bayonet to piss off the ruffians after your first 3 rounds were ineffective.
We are professionals here!
The correct terminology is stabby stick.
@@topbreak38 shouldn't it be a plunging cane?
@@justineallandevelos6491 No! It's stabby stick or cutty buddy! Nothing else!
@@topbreak38 nice idea very gentleman indeed
I am getting rather old now; lately I have not had a lot of things to smile about but watching this video I noticed a strange feeling as a smile made it's way onto my face. It was a wonderful feeling, thanks, this little gun is just too cool, I would love to have one in .22
I'm picturing Lee Van Cleef wielding one of those in a spaghetti western!
He carried a four barrel version,with two in the butt,only a fake though,in the Sabata films.
Spimny bits and foldy bits? for an April 1st video you should review a simple common gun and use terminology like that throughout the whole video lol
The spinny bit is connected to the big thing. The big things connected to the fingery bit. The fingery bits connected to the pokey part. lol
@@Ksportin there's normally at least 1 or 2 thingies and a few dodads mixed into it all too
@@RhinoRobM This particular example is missings its thing-a-majig
@@Ksportin it's an older gun, they didn't start putting thing-a-majigs in them til 'round 1873, they replaced thingies with thing-a-majigs cause they were more compatible with whats-its, which or course everyone knows were just dodads with slightly adjusted gigits
@@RhinoRobM You sir, win the internets
A beautiful piece of history.
3:48 *ooops* the sound of a man who Hope's he hasn't just broken the firing pin on a 150 YO Rimfire
"I said I didn't have much use for a Steampunk gun. I didn't say I didn't know how to use one..."
Ok Quigley
Never stop. You are the man.
This may have been a blind alley as far as firearms development was concerned, but it was only the beginning for telephone exchange selector switches!
Indeed, the thought never crossed my mind, however I did work for a 6 month program when I was getting ready to take my honorable discharge from the US Army, they called it project transition, I worked the switching central to the then new William Beaumont Army Hospital in El Paso. it was made of automatic electric stepping system and you are so right.
@@JerryEricsson The amusing thing is when Tommy Flowers was developing the first digital electronic exchange for what was then still part of the General Post Office (it became British Telecom) the management decided to "get ready for the new technology" and they employed an architect to design a high-rise telephone exchange (with strong floors) to provide all the extra floor space that would be needed, and they actually *built* one of these monsters in Bedford! It remains the tallest building in the town; it has never been used as an exchange and it has now been converted into flats, although BT housed their national accounts department in it at one stage without using all the floors. Bedford's actual digital telephone exchange equipment, when installed, fitted into *spare* space in the old telephone exchange building that housed the selector-switch equipment, so the changeover was barely noticed by the public. The four storey building near to the tower, also now converted into flats, may even have been intended for the power supply and cooling equipment for the digital exchange!
It's almost as if someone had seen the Colossus computer which Tommy built for Dr Alan Turing during WW2 and multiplied the size and power consumption of that, by the processing power theoretically needed by a digital telephone exchange.
Makes me wonder if the Goldington Power station was built to serve the George Fischer ironworks or the proposed digital telephone exchange?
Who needs a Glock when you could have a 3 barrel pocket pistol?
Amen.
Now this is just the premium Forgotten Weapons content I desire!
That's a really cool little Derringer design, I like how you can switch it to different barrels just by cocking the hammer.
Longtime fan, never saw this video, somehow I missed it… this was one of Ian’s best “regular video” intros! Thank you for all the content!
Everything old becomes new again. That mechanism is suggestive of a three-round burst device.
full auto modern repro when
“Spinny bits and foldy bits”
Perfect description right there Ian
That would be the perfect backup gun to a Lancaster Howdah pistol.
Brilliant design.
Militarized Rube Goldberg machine. Shiny.
Creamy
Just no limit to their ingenuity in those days! When you consider the basic level of education back then,the way these people solved problems and put clever inventions into production,really has to be marvelled at.
I enjoy interesting, simple firearms. This cheacks off all the boxes for me.
"Pointy deal" is my new name for any firing pin.
Title should've been "Marston (No, Not Red Dead)"
I T that’s what I’m saying, smh
Should add it to Red Dead. It looks like a neat little gun
One has to wonder if this gun somehow inspired the name of the protagonist.
Same here
Honestly kind of surprised it wasn't after the Freeman
so if it's rim fire and you have to bash it closed to get it over those extractors... 🤔
Don't recommend putting your hand over the muzzle lol
BANG
With the barrel selector on 0 the firing pin is safe. Of course that is a manual operation. I presume the extractor springs are soft enough for them to not fire the cartridges.
gotta love that 2010 720p RUclips goodness.... in 2019. Nostalgic....
I often wonder if the tiny sights on these style of pistols were just a selling point, as I’m guessing most were intended to be used at maximum ranges approaching.....”across the card table” 🎲🎱😉
Used at ranges of between negative 3 inches to about 36 inches.
Being that some of these things were sold with a tiny bayonet speaks volumes about the ranges they were designed to be used at.
Derringers are used in Hand to Hand combat not unarmed combat.
Stick the barrels under the opponents rib cage angled upwards and pull the trigger.
Lol I remember the Instagram post of the ratcheting firing pin, props to that guy who figured it out from a still
Neat little gun! Love the dial, and the way it is both an indicator and also part of the actual mechanism for the direction of the firing pin.
It would have been even cooler if breaking open the gun would've reset the indicator automatically though!
I think it would mechanically be possible, although it would perhaps have to be changed into a top break for it to be easier to engineer.
That is slick. Simple elegant solution.
Sights don’t matter too much. It’s a 3 ft away gun. Has a little bit of power. I looked up the ballistics and a 0.32 long rim fire could get 230 ft lbs out of a 90 grain bullet (albeit with a 24 inch test barrel). Lethal though.
So like 140 fps out of a pistol. For once taking a knife to a gunfight. Sounds like the safe choice.
I think that would have been a very nice gentleman's vest pocket pistol. In .32 rimfire for sure.
The interior of that piece is filthy.
The Jim Milton Spinny foldy pistol
That firing pin mechanism is really cool.
Brilliant little design.
Anyone else like me who wants a gun like this because it just looks cool
Woah, woah, woah . . . it has spinny bits *AND* foldy bits!?
Marston was a madman!
An interesting implementation of the moving finger of fate.
Very cool pistol. Multi barrels are cool.
It's a very simple and clever design, I really like it.
A whole new level of awesomeness!
"pointy deal" is now my phrase of the week. 😆
That’s a very clever system
That's a nifty piece. It would be nice to have in modern centerfire chamberings.
I really wanted that to be a selector for how many barrels fire at once.
Thank you , Ian
Interesting to see an effective firing pin safety on a 150 year old firearm. When the ratchet/dial is in the 0 position the firing pin can't strike the rim of a cartridge, making the derringer completely drop safe in that condition & pocket safe. Me likee.
Great video. I have a handgun book with an entry for this gun but I didn’t realize the size until this video came up. I’m planning to use one in a story and now I have some good background info.
You have the coolest job
That's really clever, actually. One of my favorites yet.
Need 1 of theese for my next pokerplay ^^ !
So..,my great-grandfather was William W. Marston. The derringer is very cool…
Standard issue side arm for the 1st Dwarvish SAS Regiment.
Now if he had gotten MORE cleaver, the opening of the barrel cluster would have reset the lil dial do-hicky
I was kind of surprised that it didn't reset when opening or closing the breach.
I feel like ironically that system would have lent itself very well to a double action only trigger, by that I mean a linearly sliding trigger with geared teeth to rotate the firing pin machanism
Really love the antique patina on that handsome little pistol. We should all be grateful for the advances in the medical field when reflecting upon the death of Marsten at the age of 50.
Scene setting, dramatic build, snark commentary: CSI cold-open confirmed.
This is neat.
Cool! I want one in .32 ACP!
William W. Marston patented a number of firearm related ideas but the patent associated with this firearm is 17, 386 Improved Repeating Fire-Arm, 26 May 1857. I could not find, which does not mean there isn't one, a Marston patent dated 1864 that covers the "IMPROVED".
I saw Marston, and I saw Derringer.
Regarding the sights...whenever the conversation turned to derringers, my dad always said just stick the barrel in their ear or bellybutton
Perfect for the enterprising card gamer of old West.
'Did he fire three shots or only two'? Well to tell you the truth, in all this excitement, I kind of lost track myself. But being that this is a steampunk derringer, the most ridiculous handgun in the world, and would blow your top hat & goggles clean off, you've got to ask yourself one question: 'What does the dial say?' Well what do you think it says, steampunk?
This looks like something James West from the Wild Wild West would have had.
Marston. John Marston.
Spinny bits, foldy bits and brass. Nothing more steampunk than that (well maybe a dial or two).
Wonderful intro!
Gorgeous intro !
Ian need a 1890'era Imperial hat and tunic and this video would have been 100% Steampunk.
CAn i request a tear down of the typical Remington two barrel derringer too?
The firing pin mechanism and such
I believe that on the Spinal Tap version the dial went up to eleven! ;-)
That is neat!
That is really cool. I would love to see you shoot it.
Rare gun to find
you could use increasingly powerful loads and call it a dial-a-yield derringer
Strange, John Marston never carried one of those...
Are spinny bits and foldy bits the only prerequisite for steampunk status?
You can’t forget about the brass and dial, those are key
Brass bits also required.
No, also brass.
You need brass, old wooden handles, style, and either a dial, a gauge, or exposed gears.
simple and ingenious at the same time. :)
Was Marston into watchmaking as well ? 😊 Lovely design
you get this gun after unlocking an easter egg
50% clockworks + 50% firearm = 100% awesome .
Fun fact: Due to the similarity of tools and skills required to repair either in the 1800s, a good many gunsmiths were also clocksmiths and visa versa.
More barrels more fun.
Triple trouble derringer !
Super cool
realitivly safe design too. with the indicator on zero and hammer down the fireing pin cannot contact any cartridges.
Sweet!
Very cool
‘This, cheek rest’
Ian do a video on IverJohnson revolvers. One of my ancestors carried one while he died in asia on a salt delivery. Apparently he slept with the revolver under his pillow which was common in those days. I don't know much about the revolver as it's locked away from my grubby hands but I believe it's a pocket hammer in 38 Smith and Wesson.
My Great Grandfather was a school teacher in North Dakota a century ago, and he carried an Iver Johnson revolver as he rode his _horse_ to the school house every day. Not for "personal protection" but specifically to shoot rabbits. Game animals were a large part of their diet at the time. I still have the thing, and you can still buy .32 S&W it's chambered in. I shoot it on occasion. It makes me happy, although it's an awkward little pistol to shoot.
Would love more info on Iver Johnson, Harrington, and S&W revolver designs so as I can properly identify which models and serial blocks are antique or not.
Just today actually received one of these from a family member, it was in a house fire and in pretty bad shape, looking forward to getting it fixed up. Anywhere I might wanna look for replacement springs?
So insted of having a hand that move the cylinder and align it with the barel on a revolver, we have here a hand which move the firing pin tray and align the firing pin with a barel.
And no seal problems.
candid moe are you thinking what I’m thinking? Triple stamp derringer!!!!
Dude that’s too cool . Death at it’s niftiest
Perfect for 1800s Zap carry.
0:09 confirmed indeed! this is what a steampunk J.W. Booth would use to assassinate a steampunk Abraham Lincoln
Very interesting gun.
AWESOME!!!!!