@@d3734 remmember, the shell has to be pushed into the tray by the spring, and the action move far enough back to fit the length of each shell aswell. So even with just 4 rounds, you'll have a 6-7" long pistol including the grip
Grasshopper K And compare that to an NAA mini revolver, I have a Black Widow and it is under 6 inches total with 5 shots of 22 _magnum_. And that thing is quite accurate and even has adjustable sights. But I think a recreation of this gun would be a cool range toy for sure.
@@d3734 a modern replica with minimal editing would be fantastic. Especially if Remington try sticking to hand crafting where necessary. As and Engineer, I'm all for using digital and mechanical everything for manufacture. But as a carpenter, and also an engineer. I understand why it's not physically possible to recreate exact replicas of things like the NASA F1 engine. Over 60% of the construction used hand welds. The F1A1 blueprints today, took 2 decades of trial and error to make a modern equivelant, for today's tools and skill sets.
Same, make it cheap, and cheerful, with a few modern touches, and this would make a great pocket carry gun for times you did not want to be loaded down with something heavier, but just enough to make a good "gut buster" defense weapon.
I have one of these. A relative a long ways back was a riverboat gambler. I love the thumb action, have never seen another one out there until now. It is unbelievably slick and second nature. Mad respect to your ability to find rare pieces. My magazine lacks spring and follower. Neat to finally see an intact one.
Man, this is SO CLOSE to an autoloading design -- I can't imagine it would need to change much to have that cocking lever come back on blowback/recoil.
For the time, that has to be one of the best concealed-carry pistols available. Not a huge punch, but it's not outright anemic and you've got more than a couple shots to work with.
+Laird Cummings Or .25 ACP, if you want to market it for self defense rather than a range toy. It isn't much more powerful, but people kind of sneer upon the concept of using rimfire for self defense.
+Laird Cummings Also don't forget a few more inches over, and former President Roland Reagan would have been killed with a Röhm RG-14 .22LR blue steel revolver had it hit him right in the heart. You just need to be a good shot with .22 short and .22LR for it to be effective, but hit someone in the knee caps with .22LR at a short distance with a small hidden .22LR pistol, and you will at least drop them to their knees no doubt.
You know, if you make that longer so it can accept about 4 or 5 rounds of a modern caliber like .32ACP or .32NAA, and I think that would still sell today as a conceal option. I mean, North American Arms still sells the hell out of their little single action revolvers. This could compete well with those revolvers.
Your comment about the lack of engraving reminds me of a conversation with a master engrave here in England. We were talking about modern mass-produced shotguns that are covered in embossed or acid etched “engraving” and I asked why the manufacturers did not leave the guns just plain? He replied that it was more time-consuming to finish a gun perfect “in the white” finish to cover up any minor cosmetic imperfections, and putting on sometimes overdone embellishment actually made the guns cheaper to make.
Agreed, The White pistols, etc, really didn't hit my interest, though the little full auto 22 from mexico was neat. But this is one I wish somebody would make a modern version of, I think in a modern caliber it would make a neat competitor to the bond arms derringers, NAA mini revolvers, etc.
I want to size it up to 9mm, with a of course longer barrel, a detachable tube mag and bigger grip, just for shits and giggles. Gentlemen, we have the technology to rebuild the Remington Rider Pistol. Better than it was before. Better... Stronger... Faster.
@keith_moore: And how do you lock this monstrosity? You whould need a locking mechanism like the Desert Eagle or AR-15 to lock safely, we should stay in realistic, achieveable dimensions. Biggest we could make it safely is .375 Magnum but a soft mix.
A quick search finds that there are in fact companies still producing brass in .32 cal extra short - if you don't mind paying $3-$4 a round. This looks like it would be very reliable as well. Handsome little gun.
Colum Peel this looks close shop.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/bore-lights/militaria-borelight-sku622000002-54129-105602.aspx?cm_mmc=PPC-_-Itwine-_-Google-_-622-000-002&gclid=COGo_pfIq9MCFQYJaQodtm4D-g
I'm glad he did that, I mentioned it'd be a good idea for him to carry one around a little while ago, many times he'd want to show something on the inside of a gun and say "you can't really see it but it's there".
That'd be a real sleeper of a CC pistol. EDIT: SPOILER ALERT: When Ian turned the firearm sideways and revealed the aperture sight, my whimsy could barely be contained.
Everyday after school from about 4th grade till they changed the afternoon line up, then always when I happened to catch it on. That was when you could actually learn things from watching the history channel.
Rewatching this, I am wondering if a full size version with a King's loading gate could have given the revolver a run for it's money. You can't run a Volcanic with one hand, a major down fall, this you can! Ah, the possibilities?
Would 100% carry this if it was the only other option to revolvers tbh this is slicker than any of the rig triggers imo I don't think it would have enough power to really use the sights in a defensive situation but for parlor tricks it'd be fun.
Very clever design and quite an attractive piece. This period in firearms development saw many creative designs of small pocket pistols. This little beauty would hide quite well in a vest pocket or in a lady's purse.
Notice the band-aid on Ian's left ring finger. Ian frequently seems to have various scrapes and cuts on his hands in these videos. I don't think he gets as much credit as he deserves for putting his skin on the line for our benefit.
I would love to see that mechanism on a tube-fed carbine, replacing a lever action. You wouldn't need to take your finger off the trigger, or tilt the gun while laying prone with it.
Good review Ian and very interesting gun. I just remembered my dad used to have in the seventies a book of guns of the old west, and it had some cool looking guns, some that I've never seen in a RUclips review or anywhere else and I was just thinking how much I used to love to look at that every now and then. I would just admire those guns and wonder what it would be like to shoot one or have one or whatever and now to get to see all these guns on RUclips is just really nice. I've got to shoot a fair amount of unique and interesting guns in my day as well.
All these somewhat simple guns you guys feature,something like that would be such an interesting piece for any collector if someone made some for .22 short or other mouse gun cartridges,arguably it might be a better option than some mouse gun revolvers.
Neat design. Great use of space. Was the 32 long rimfire ever made with, say, a 3 shot capacity? I suspect years later it could have been made in 32 S&W (short), which has the advantage of being centerfire. a 4 shot one would be a nice little package. Or 5, but the barrel and mag tube would have to be a little longer. The sights are great- the designer was thinking. If caseless ammo ever takes off, one could make a modern version in say 38 cal and u wouldn't have to make provision for ejecting. That would be really interesting
Looking in Barnes’s “cartridges of the world” the 32 extra short has a case length of .398” and a cartridge length of .645”. In metric that’s just over 10mm and 16mm. Very stubby cartridges Bullet weight was 54-60 grains, so just under 4 grams, with a powder charge of 5 to 5.5 grains. Estimated muzzle velocity about 650 ft/sec or compost 200 m/sec. estimated energy is 51 ft/lbs. for comparison a 22 short from a pistol has 68-72 ft/lbs depending on the manufacturer
Good thing it's rifled and has sights since I expect that .32 extra short would probably bounce off off a moderately heavy wool shirt. Probably better than just throwing a golf ball sized rock, but not by much.
The Czech Great Guns double barrel percussion derringer has a similar , though larger, silhouette. You can watch it on our Hungarian friend's Cap & Ball channel.
I'm not a gun owner, but a huge fan of odd designs. I would love to have seen more of its innards, but NEEDED to see at least one .32 EXTRA short bullet!! I wanted to go, "jeez, who'd've thot" . 😁
Do you think this could have potentially been changed to be semi-auto? it seems like if you didn't lock the breech-bolt thing, and possibly beef it up a bit to increase the weight as well as mabe a stronger spring, it could have functioned as a blowback pistol, seeing as it fires a weak cartridge. Although, it is small and i'm not sure if you could make that bolt heavy enough to be safe or reliable. Still, maybe making the gun a bit bigger may have made that a possibility. > The reason I say it is because it seems like it's almost all there, cycling the breech-bolt cocks the hammer, extracts empty case and chambers a new one, it's just manually operated.
If you kept it low-power (25 or 32 ACP) and adjusted the return spring, I could see it sorta working as a simple blowback (no locking required). Though I have to wonder whether the rotary nature of the action would be a problem, and you'd probably want to modify the ejector or add a deflector or something to keep the casings from flying straight back at you. That's a pretty soft "maybe" though.
Not entirely in 380 or 9mm it could make a nice conceal Carry option it could make a mini revolver sized but more powerful. It could be made into a simple semi auto configuration 2+1 9mm version or 3 +1 380 version
Well, the construction is fairly simple. Why aren't modern replicas/improvements of this design? This seems like the most efficient pocket pistol ever made.
Because tube mags are bad for maintaining capacity while having the size be small. Even in .22LR you'd need a mag tube of 5inches just for 5 rounds, well, a little more than 5 inches since you'd need room for the spring and follower as well. So you get the idea, put the reciever and grips on, and you have something like a 7inch long pistol just for 5 rounds of .22LR. Scaling it up to something like 9mm you'd only have like 4 shots in the mag for a gun that size. It'd be viable, but it would be outclassed by normal box magazine guns, which also have the benefit of faster reloads with multiple mags. That said, why aren't they made for recreational purposes is the bigger question, I'd totally buy one for the novelty.
Wow I wouldn't use this as an everyday pistol, but I think these would definitely sell today. It's way better than the double barrel derringers, and more concealable than an NAA revolving derringers.
Not really more concealable than the NAA revolvers, .22LR is an inch long, with a tube mag stacking them lengthwise, you have a 5inch mag tube, plus some for the follower and mag spring. Add the reciever and grips and you'd have a 7inch gun for the same 5 round capacity as the NAA revolvers, which can take the even longer .22 Magnum for an overall length still smaller.
If Remington made a reproduction in .22LR with four or five rounds, I'd buy one. Neat little gun.
Would need to be longer I'd imagine.
22 short would work a lot better, because 22 lr bullets are exactly an inch long. So it would need a 5 inch+ barrel for 5 shots...
@@d3734 remmember, the shell has to be pushed into the tray by the spring, and the action move far enough back to fit the length of each shell aswell. So even with just 4 rounds, you'll have a 6-7" long pistol including the grip
Grasshopper K And compare that to an NAA mini revolver, I have a Black Widow and it is under 6 inches total with 5 shots of 22 _magnum_. And that thing is quite accurate and even has adjustable sights. But I think a recreation of this gun would be a cool range toy for sure.
@@d3734 a modern replica with minimal editing would be fantastic. Especially if Remington try sticking to hand crafting where necessary.
As and Engineer, I'm all for using digital and mechanical everything for manufacture. But as a carpenter, and also an engineer. I understand why it's not physically possible to recreate exact replicas of things like the NASA F1 engine. Over 60% of the construction used hand welds. The F1A1 blueprints today, took 2 decades of trial and error to make a modern equivelant, for today's tools and skill sets.
I would take one in .22 short or a caliber that is still made in a heartbeat.
Same, make it cheap, and cheerful, with a few modern touches, and this would make a great pocket carry gun for times you did not want to be loaded down with something heavier, but just enough to make a good "gut buster" defense weapon.
absolutely
even if not for defense, just the nifty mechanism would make for fun plinking i'm sure
.50 AE or bust
@@evanwickstrom5698 does it take glock magazines?
can I get it in 300. winmag
@@evanwickstrom5698 nah i was thinking about .30-06 or .45-70
I have one of these. A relative a long ways back was a riverboat gambler. I love the thumb action, have never seen another one out there until now. It is unbelievably slick and second nature. Mad respect to your ability to find rare pieces. My magazine lacks spring and follower. Neat to finally see an intact one.
Man, this is SO CLOSE to an autoloading design -- I can't imagine it would need to change much to have that cocking lever come back on blowback/recoil.
Ikr!
Edit: if it were/if there was another model but semi auto that would be like my favorite pistol ever
For the time, that has to be one of the best concealed-carry pistols available. Not a huge punch, but it's not outright anemic and you've got more than a couple shots to work with.
A baby lever-action!? **puts monocle back on** Truly marvelous!
nice revel of the sights there, managed to keep that all sneaky till the end, well played sir. lol
They need to put this gun back into production! A magazine-fed deringer-like gun? Whats not to love?
Your voice is extremely therapeutic Ian
This gun has really incredibly awesome design! I think modern gun manufacturer should reproduce it!
That thing needs a revamp n re-release
like almost every other gun on this channel !!!
+Laird Cummings Or .25 ACP, if you want to market it for self defense rather than a range toy. It isn't much more powerful, but people kind of sneer upon the concept of using rimfire for self defense.
+Laird Cummings Also don't forget a few more inches over, and former President Roland Reagan would have been killed with a Röhm RG-14 .22LR blue steel revolver had it hit him right in the heart. You just need to be a good shot with .22 short and .22LR for it to be effective, but hit someone in the knee caps with .22LR at a short distance with a small hidden .22LR pistol, and you will at least drop them to their knees no doubt.
Add a grip safety and under barrel laser.
25 acp is better for some conversions being centre fire.
You can really see the "Remington" in this one, reminds me of a tiny Rolling Block, with the way the action works.
Why is it that Remington could make a successful unconventional pistol 130 years ago, but can't make a successful conventional pistol today?
Those staff at Remington are either a pot of Ash, or 6 foot under unfortunately....
Our society in decay.
because it's hard....lol
@@dr.johnpaladinshow9747 or because most of the good engineers and designers are well... dead?
Freedom Group, that's why
You know, if you make that longer so it can accept about 4 or 5 rounds of a modern caliber like .32ACP or .32NAA, and I think that would still sell today as a conceal option. I mean, North American Arms still sells the hell out of their little single action revolvers. This could compete well with those revolvers.
Yeah' a flat nosed cartridge would work. A .22 rimfire would be cool too.
.22 Short would be practical for this design.
Your comment about the lack of engraving reminds me of a conversation with a master engrave here in England. We were talking about modern mass-produced shotguns that are covered in embossed or acid etched “engraving” and I asked why the manufacturers did not leave the guns just plain? He replied that it was more time-consuming to finish a gun perfect “in the white” finish to cover up any minor cosmetic imperfections, and putting on sometimes overdone embellishment actually made the guns cheaper to make.
phwoar, this is one of the coolest pistols ive seen on here in a while
Agreed, The White pistols, etc, really didn't hit my interest, though the little full auto 22 from mexico was neat. But this is one I wish somebody would make a modern version of, I think in a modern caliber it would make a neat competitor to the bond arms derringers, NAA mini revolvers, etc.
I want to size it up to 9mm, with a of course longer barrel, a detachable tube mag and bigger grip, just for shits and giggles. Gentlemen, we have the technology to rebuild the Remington Rider Pistol. Better than it was before. Better... Stronger... Faster.
@keith_moore: And how do you lock this monstrosity? You whould need a locking mechanism like the Desert Eagle or AR-15 to lock safely, we should stay in realistic, achieveable dimensions. Biggest we could make it safely is .375 Magnum but a soft mix.
Don't forget what happens when Remington tries to "upgrade" old classics.
Considering the ballistic worthlessness of both those choices, I'd still pass. 32 ACP would make a nice compromise between the extremes.
Glad I clicked, thought it was just a two shot.
I'm a large fan of this channel, the products you display, and the no-nonsense delivery you have. Thank You!
A quick search finds that there are in fact companies still producing brass in .32 cal extra short - if you don't mind paying $3-$4 a round. This looks like it would be very reliable as well. Handsome little gun.
Reminds me of the North American Arms mini revolvers. Surprisingly fun to plink with
From another field, "This example of this book commands a premium price - it hasn't been signed by the author."
Ian's got a special wand. When did you get the little Fibre Optic Torch for looking through barrels?
Colum Peel this looks close
shop.brownells.com/gunsmith-tools-supplies/general-gunsmith-tools/bore-lights/militaria-borelight-sku622000002-54129-105602.aspx?cm_mmc=PPC-_-Itwine-_-Google-_-622-000-002&gclid=COGo_pfIq9MCFQYJaQodtm4D-g
I'm glad he did that, I mentioned it'd be a good idea for him to carry one around a little while ago, many times he'd want to show something on the inside of a gun and say "you can't really see it but it's there".
$6 well spent :)
You could also just make one if you have an old small pen light laying around your shop, and some soft clear tubing.
+moonra
Now all he needs is a set of snap-caps.
That'd be a real sleeper of a CC pistol. EDIT: SPOILER ALERT:
When Ian turned the firearm sideways and revealed the aperture sight, my whimsy could barely be contained.
Actually you wouldn't need a permit it's made before the U.S. government deems it modern firearms
@@johnasbury7511 In many states you still need a CC permit to carry antique firearms.
This show is awesome, reminds me of Tales of the Gun before the history channel turned to garbage
Never thought I'd come across someone else that watched that series.
Everyday after school from about 4th grade till they changed the afternoon line up, then always when I happened to catch it on. That was when you could actually learn things from watching the history channel.
Garbage indeed
I used to Love that show , it was only shown for a couple of series here in the UK , I wondered where it had gone .
Man I really need one
Oh ok thx man
Paul Ainsworth How'd you end up here?
Yeah i know i just read the other comments 😅
Rewatching this, I am wondering if a full size version with a King's loading gate could have given the revolver a run for it's money. You can't run a Volcanic with one hand, a major down fall, this you can! Ah, the possibilities?
Thanks for all your videos.
Being gutshot by anything was a death sentence, possibly delayed/lingering.
Would 100% carry this if it was the only other option to revolvers tbh this is slicker than any of the rig triggers imo I don't think it would have enough power to really use the sights in a defensive situation but for parlor tricks it'd be fun.
Very clever design and quite an attractive piece. This period in firearms development saw many creative designs of small pocket pistols. This little beauty would hide quite well in a vest pocket or in a lady's purse.
This is one of few old pieces like this that I now absolutely have to have
Hidden sidearm for our new mandalorian friend, perhaps? Also, could you "Fan the Hammer" on this thing. it's funny to think about someone doing that.
Notice the band-aid on Ian's left ring finger. Ian frequently seems to have various scrapes and cuts on his hands in these videos. I don't think he gets as much credit as he deserves for putting his skin on the line for our benefit.
I would love to see that mechanism on a tube-fed carbine, replacing a lever action. You wouldn't need to take your finger off the trigger, or tilt the gun while laying prone with it.
I like it. Thanks for highlighting it.
This is a pretty slick little plinker
Some of the most beautiful things are the most simple.
Good review Ian and very interesting gun. I just remembered my dad used to have in the seventies a book of guns of the old west, and it had some cool looking guns, some that I've never seen in a RUclips review or anywhere else and I was just thinking how much I used to love to look at that every now and then. I would just admire those guns and wonder what it would be like to shoot one or have one or whatever and now to get to see all these guns on RUclips is just really nice. I've got to shoot a fair amount of unique and interesting guns in my day as well.
That's really a pretty brilliant cartridge exchange system.
What a nice little pistol! I bet if I was around back then, I would be a big Remington fan.
Would love to see a modernized version, in a modern cf caliber, even at the cost of capacity. Seems like a slick design.
This is so simple and elegant.
I want some tube fed semiautomatic pistols so you can top off, especially 10 round capacity for our brothers in California.
Came to this video after watching the video on the Oerlikon 20mm Antiaircraft Cannon, talk about going from one extreme to the other.
The lever action volcanic pistol was tube gun as well
Maybe that's why there weren't a lot of tube fed pistols, bad rep.
@@OnlyKaerius More likely that the revolvers just worked, and there wasn't a need to expand on repeating pistols
It's funny that the tiny concealed carry defense pistol has better sights than most things we see from that time.
Do you realy want to shake my hand?
I could see this being adapted for a modern clip and working quite well
Amazing item and video as always.
that bore light was really cool
wow! a brilliant piece of mechanics!
A tiny little lever gun. I like it!
That is such a cool little gun.
I used to have one. Was given to me by an old man I knew. Had to sell it when times got tough.
lol, opened the page being like "maybe there is something new" -> uploaded 44 seconds ago :D
Very clever design
Great looking gun, I was wondering how small the cartridges would have been ?
All these somewhat simple guns you guys feature,something like that would be such an interesting piece for any collector if someone made some for .22 short or other mouse gun cartridges,arguably it might be a better option than some mouse gun revolvers.
Beautiful, and look actually practical.
Operates like a single action revolver but very slim. Very nice.
An amazing little thing.
A version in 22 short would be shootable not sure where anyone could find 32 extra short it would be fun shooting shorts out of this
.32 x-short is probably more expensive than the gun that shoots it. Lol
One in 22 short would be a nice keychain gun some one trys to car jack you you act like you're handing them your keys and boom no more knee caps
such a cool gun.
another totally epic vid
Paul Ainsworth don't be mean
i love your profile pic xD
it is soooo sad that you dont shoot this antiques :(
This could actually be an interesting concept using a stubby necked cartrige
Hmm something like a .380 necked down to .32?
@@OnlyKaerius perhaps, or maybe even smaller into .25 or .22 territory
Neat design. Great use of space. Was the 32 long rimfire ever made with, say, a 3 shot capacity? I suspect years later it could have been made in 32 S&W (short), which has the advantage of being centerfire. a 4 shot one would be a nice little package. Or 5, but the barrel and mag tube would have to be a little longer. The sights are great- the designer was thinking. If caseless ammo ever takes off, one could make a modern version in say 38 cal and u wouldn't have to make provision for ejecting. That would be really interesting
Very cool weapon. Nice Video!
That's the most adorable magazine I've ever seen.
Looking in Barnes’s “cartridges of the world” the 32 extra short has a case length of .398” and a cartridge length of .645”. In metric that’s just over 10mm and 16mm. Very stubby cartridges
Bullet weight was 54-60 grains, so just under 4 grams, with a powder charge of 5 to 5.5 grains.
Estimated muzzle velocity about 650 ft/sec or compost 200 m/sec. estimated energy is 51 ft/lbs. for comparison a 22 short from a pistol has 68-72 ft/lbs depending on the manufacturer
This one's really cool I have to say
They should make a .22 short modern version... It's little, and very concealable...
A modern 32ACP version would be awesome.
Good thing it's rifled and has sights since I expect that .32 extra short would probably bounce off off a moderately heavy wool shirt. Probably better than just throwing a golf ball sized rock, but not by much.
The Czech Great Guns double barrel percussion derringer has a similar , though larger, silhouette. You can watch it on our Hungarian friend's Cap & Ball channel.
I'm not a gun owner, but a huge fan of odd designs.
I would love to have seen more of its innards, but NEEDED to see at least one .32 EXTRA short bullet!!
I wanted to go, "jeez, who'd've thot" . 😁
A modern tube fed pistol would be badass
Looks like it's only a step or two from being a self loader. Scale it up a bit, add a dis-connector, trigger guard, and make it a blow back.
I really would have liked to see even a picture of the ammo
despite of all the modern consealed carry pistols you see nowadays, i find this one far more nice.
Amazing!
Anyone else thinking this is only a few steps away from making a repeating rolling block rifle?
Ah man I love these things
Do you think this could have potentially been changed to be semi-auto? it seems like if you didn't lock the breech-bolt thing, and possibly beef it up a bit to increase the weight as well as mabe a stronger spring, it could have functioned as a blowback pistol, seeing as it fires a weak cartridge. Although, it is small and i'm not sure if you could make that bolt heavy enough to be safe or reliable. Still, maybe making the gun a bit bigger may have made that a possibility. > The reason I say it is because it seems like it's almost all there, cycling the breech-bolt cocks the hammer, extracts empty case and chambers a new one, it's just manually operated.
FuLLeFFekT1 No, just enlarge the gun to allow a heavier bolt, keeping basically the same mechanism (minus the locking of the bolt) just bigger.
If you kept it low-power (25 or 32 ACP) and adjusted the return spring, I could see it sorta working as a simple blowback (no locking required). Though I have to wonder whether the rotary nature of the action would be a problem, and you'd probably want to modify the ejector or add a deflector or something to keep the casings from flying straight back at you.
That's a pretty soft "maybe" though.
To work as a straight blowback would require adding several ounces to the bolt. A delayed blowback mechanism of some kind might be interesting.
It's so weird being reminded how long the Vetterli rifle was around.
Is it bad that I want a reproduction scaled up to 9mm as a novelty?
Thomas Doyle why stop at 9? I say scale one up to something ridiculous like .41AE or 10MM and make heads explode.
Not entirely in 380 or 9mm it could make a nice conceal Carry option it could make a mini revolver sized but more powerful. It could be made into a simple semi auto configuration 2+1 9mm version or 3 +1 380 version
Great video. It would be nice to cut in a photo of the cartridge to better help us picture something this uncommon.
Such an amazing piece of craftmanship! Very cool gun, I'd like to own one but I guess it's pretty expensive
Ohh that would look so good blued. If I could afford it I definitely would be bidding on that one.
Well, the construction is fairly simple. Why aren't modern replicas/improvements of this design? This seems like the most efficient pocket pistol ever made.
Because tube mags are bad for maintaining capacity while having the size be small. Even in .22LR you'd need a mag tube of 5inches just for 5 rounds, well, a little more than 5 inches since you'd need room for the spring and follower as well. So you get the idea, put the reciever and grips on, and you have something like a 7inch long pistol just for 5 rounds of .22LR.
Scaling it up to something like 9mm you'd only have like 4 shots in the mag for a gun that size.
It'd be viable, but it would be outclassed by normal box magazine guns, which also have the benefit of faster reloads with multiple mags.
That said, why aren't they made for recreational purposes is the bigger question, I'd totally buy one for the novelty.
Very cool I think it’s kinda neat
I'd love to see a modern replica of this.
That's an awesome flashlight
I think I'd definitely prefer a higher powered Derringer with 2 shots rather than 5 shots that you really have to get up close to use
Quite interesting indeed.
Possibly the coolest firearm on FW to date. I REALLY like this gun!! I'd like one in.38 Special or even .25 auto. Maybe 9mm or....
Super neat.
It's functionality is so cute, I laughed out loud.
Wow I wouldn't use this as an everyday pistol, but I think these would definitely sell today. It's way better than the double barrel derringers, and more concealable than an NAA revolving derringers.
Not really more concealable than the NAA revolvers, .22LR is an inch long, with a tube mag stacking them lengthwise, you have a 5inch mag tube, plus some for the follower and mag spring. Add the reciever and grips and you'd have a 7inch gun for the same 5 round capacity as the NAA revolvers, which can take the even longer .22 Magnum for an overall length still smaller.
would be interesting to try and make it a blow back action with a spring in a handle, with a bolt going down into the grip