My mother's best friend had a couple of Derringer-style guns as a decorative motif at her home. She had inherited them from her grandfather, a count from Spain's old nobility. Sadly she passed away two years ago and I have no idea what happened to the guns, but I remember when I was a kid and we were visiting her I always had a look on them. If my memory serves me well at least one was a four-barrel gun and both looked definitely antique. This video has brought memories to me.
My grandmother always carried three . Two model 3s and a model 4 in the pockets of her overalls while working around the ranch. Just for snakes . But would not hesitate to use them on the two legged version as well !
One time at an Old West reenactment I met a lovely lady who had no less than 10 of these concealed around her person. You'd never know, given the elaborate dress favored by ladies at the time. Really cool bit of living history.
I’ve seen those first models and always wondered about that grip. Assumed it was some kind of anachronistic, styling flourish. Now, I get it. Very interesting to me. Thanx Ian!
@@LaCokaNostra_ Actually, it’s a casual, common vernacular spelling going back generations in parts of the US, Usually, used in letters between friends. I’ll try to clean things up for you next time.
I actually have a replica in .22 short that is a bronze frame with walnut grips. It is beautiful, but utterly impractical. It's smaller and difficult to hold. The only markings on it are ".22 Short" and "Butler" which I take to be a model name rather than a manufacturer. My Dad bought it in the 70's.
@@tarmaqueit seems butler was the manufacturer. looked it up, pictures show BUTLER in bold on top of the barrel and either butler manuf. or butler assoc. on the left side, along with caliber
@@tarmaque They're generally known as "Butler Derringers" Several variations were made and often in sets such as the "Lord and Lady" with one gold plated and the other silver plated (or chrome, I can't recall). I do seem to recall them being sold from several sources, and that Colt did that as well. The all-chrome versions were made entirely of 'Zamak", a zinc alloy used in "Saturday Night Specials". Those will shoot all the rifling out in a few boxes of ammo or less. Some brave (or crazy) individuals have bored these for 22 Magnum which might work for the steel barrels but not the Zamak ones. I found the Zamak one I once had would chamber a 22LR, and I shot it with standard-velocity 22LR rounds a fair bit, maybe a box, till just a trace of rifling was left. As far as I know, manufacturing ended with the GCA 1967. I'd always hoped someone would do these again in 38S&W or similar where they'd actually be useful. Considering the repro craze these days, that might just happen.
@@P_RO_ This one has a blued steel barrel. It's been fired, but not extensively. .22 shorts are so uncommon and I see no reason for it to have been chambered for that. My Dad had it for many years, then gave it to me for Christmas one year. I'm trying to remember where it is now. In a box somewhere I'm sure. I agree one in .38 special would be cool.
@@tarmaque Shorts were not hard to find back when I was shooting frequently, which was long ago. I am not recommending this, but yours will have a steel barrel so if a LR will chamber, it's probably safe to use that.
My aunt passed away in the mid eighties. She was a very sophisticated and well traveled woman for her time. In the process of cleaning out her NYC apartment my mother exclaimed “I wonder why she has a toy gun”. It was a very ornately engraved model 3 with pearl grips. I snatched it up and checked the chamber. I later traded it for a new 870 special purpose magnum combo with 2 barrels. I was thrilled. I still have that shotgun, it was what I needed at the time. It was a beautiful pistol.
Interesting that North American Arms borrowed heavily from Colt's design in their Mini Revolvers. Very reminiscent of Colt's 3rd Model. Bought on for my wife, when her work uniform made her Model 60 print really obvious. She actually got pretty darn good with the wee gun, keeping all 5 .22 WRMs in a 3-4" group at 10 feet. Modified a nylon ankle holster for her to carry it. Better than being unarmed.
I found a (nearly) full box of .41 rimfire ammo in the gun cabinet my grandfather left me in his will. Weirdly, he didn't own anything in .41 rimfire but I believe his father did...no living relatives know, though, so, it'll stay a mystery, I guess.
@@oldscratch3535 My granddad sure did. When my grandmother predeceased him, she left an unlicensed Walther PP pistol. My granddad must've arranged it with the local police chief, because that was the end of it.
Very interesting. I've come across several examples of the third models but never saw one of the earlier ones. I would not have made the connection between the two types.
Oh, i was wrong. I thought Derringer was a brand name and deringer was used just to talk about the type in general. I love all the cool historical facts that get fixed for me as a result of this channel.
I have a tiny single shot derringer very similar to these ones. The barrel is pretty corroded but I think it says “Stevens 1867” on it. No idea about the caliber it appears to be some sort of rimfire.
I have a third model that belonged to my Grandpa Tom. It's the only thing left, that I'm aware of, that belonged to him. He died in 1919. My Dad was very young then but he ended up with it when he was grown. I ended up with it after Dad passed. To my knowledge it hasn't been fired in my lifetime. Dad always told me that you "can't hit a rabbit in his bed at six feet" with it. I found a box of .41 short a year or two ago but at $350/box of 50, I did not acquire it.
These are honestly beautiful guns, I wish they made reproductions of the third pattern ones in a modern cartridge bigger than .22 rimfire (which is only "modern" by virtue of still being in production). As a side note, I remember reading somewhere that the two R spelling of "Derringer" was at least initially an attempt to avoid getting sued. Dunno how true that is, though.
Thanks Ian! I always wondered how the extractor on these worked seeing them on auctions. I wondered if that knife blade extractor was a movable lever or something to that effect. Much simpler in fact.
The .22s you mentioned were picked up by other companies as well, and they made them a very long time. It was popular when I was young for large companies to give them out to employees in a display case as anniversary and retirement presents to employees. An alternative to the gold retirement watch if you will.
I'm pretty sure my step-dad had one of the 22 ones of these but his ex-wife was sure it would be valuable and insisted on getting it in their divorce. He got his 1st year ruger 44 mag carbine instead (winner)
Friend of mine literally picked up a Butler produce copy of the 3rd pattern colt derringer in .22 short just yesterday However hammer is too worn and can’t fire the cartridge
If I recall correctly, according to some book I read a long time ago, rivals of Deringer made a similar pocket pistol under the trademark "Derringer". That spelling stuck, while the inventor, Deringer, is seen as a misspelling. 😮🙁😵
Another great video Ian, I thoroughly enjoyed learning while eating my lunch. I recently finished a martial arts Drama called Warrior. I loved it for it's story, acting, and realistic fighting. Thanks to you, I now know what the Deringer used was that I was wondering about. It was an all nickle 3rd pattern F Alexander Thuer single shot model. The character Wang Chao carried two of them and used both to great effect. He was played brilliantly by Hoon Lee
Lol, it actually occurred to me before I got to that part of the video that if you flipped it around it would make a half-way decent "knuckle duster". All it needs is a tiny flip out bayonet to fully round out it's close-range versatility.
Did the number 2s have the same shape of grip? Seems like the point of a separate wooden grip would be to have better shooting ergonomics while dropping the brass knuckle element
I'm certainly no hand-to-hand expert so feel free to explain in great detail how wrong I am, but I feel like Ian's holding the guns upside down when demonstrating the secondary "Well I shot the guy and it just made him mad" grip for using the gun as a blunt weapon. It just sort of awkwardly sticks out the top of his fist, and while the weight of the gun could add oomph to a punch, it doesn't seem very effective. Whereas a reversed grip, with the butt of the gun sticking out the pinkie end of the hand, seems like it could be used in a backhand or overhand attack, sort of like a pommel strike with a dagger. Just an observation.
Since the firing pin is an integral part of the hammer, doesn't that technically make it a rotary striker? (Compare and contrast linear hammer systems.) =)
It always amazes me how they could make professional looking stuff back then. With metal working, springs, screws, etc. like how did they even make metal back then.
Ian, technically, and geographically, I believe that Hartford would be up and over to the east of Brooklyn, NY rather than 'down' as I believe you stated. I was born and raised in that general part of the world.
I am surprised they never thought to make some in .32acp. Semi rimmed, it could be made to work and deliver a little more punch than a .41RF, and without BP issues.
Learned alot my grandfather passed ald left me the wood box with two 4th gen 1st models 22short both in good condition my dad said he won them in a poker game
Honestly there was a time where things like this were a really good option. However, now a days, they are just outclassed by other things on the market. Excellent video as always, Ian. Should discuss how, even though old designs can still do a job, it does not make them a good choice to do that job in the modern era. I think I will do that
Really interesting video many thanks. A general question, as the process with the Derringer and many other firearms of the time is fairly complex, did guns tend to come with an instruction manual, or was it assumed people would figure it out themselves?
Is the barrel on the First Model original? It's undecorated and very shiny compared to the rear end. Or is it just because the grip and action were handled more?
Remington made a run of non corrosive ammunition in the early 1950's, and again in the early '60s. They are notorious for being duds now. The bullet weight was 130 grains, velocity was low, so low bullets would often bounce off a solid target(tree) and land at your feet.
130 grain lead bullet at roughly 700- 750 FPS. Won't bury the slug fully in hardwood so I wouldn't chance one for defense. Ammo is collectible now and pricey, but it can be had- see the other comment.
If its doing 700 fps it certainly would penetrate! I shoot a 125gr at about 700 fps in Cowboy Action Shooting and that will penetrate a wooden sleeper quite convincingly. (its a PF of 87.5.... so two thirds of the IPSC required PF of 125... thats not trivial!) The previously quoted 425 sounds more like something that would match the stories. Still wouldn't want to get in its way...even in a heavy coat.@@P_RO_
Yeah idk where he’s getting 700fps. Original load was 130gr projectile with 13g black powder for 425fps out of a 3” barrel. Source-cartridges of the world.
If you held them so the pistol grip came out under your little finger you could strike down with them. The way you were holding them I can't see how you would use them accept as something to fill your hand. Ok after I typed this, I looked at the comments, someone else already said this.
I'm not saying i would want to be down range of the 41 rimfire but the old joke about them was that a good winter coat was effective body armor against them.. Lol
courious on how survival is it realistically to get shot by one of these so the designers shaped the gun to turn it into a "brass knuckle" style of weapon after shooting. Was it that unreliable? Or was it a just on case kind of feature?
You want your pinky in the curl, and swing it like a hammer. Less like a knuckle duster, more like a pommel strike. Super effective. Doesnt matter. Just wanted to point it out... God bless all yall!
The reason why most people use "Derringer" with a double R is because back in the day (and honestly to this day) "americans" are very bad with pronouncing any foreign names. I know people will dislike this comment alot, but it is what is it. People from the USA seem to be incapable of learning foreign names.
Ain't nothing wrong with having a "Pocket Pistol".... Hell, I carry a full sized .45 Auto, but usually always have a NAA .22 Mag Revolver in my pocket or in an ankle holster... Just in case... Hell, sometimes I carry a little 7 shot Colt New Line Revolver in my pocket... Never as a Primary Carry Piece, just as a "Backup"..... GREAT VIDEO!
My mother's best friend had a couple of Derringer-style guns as a decorative motif at her home. She had inherited them from her grandfather, a count from Spain's old nobility.
Sadly she passed away two years ago and I have no idea what happened to the guns, but I remember when I was a kid and we were visiting her I always had a look on them. If my memory serves me well at least one was a four-barrel gun and both looked definitely antique.
This video has brought memories to me.
Maybe the four barrel one is a Lancaster pistol.
Probably a Remington Elliot derringer
I`d speculate the four barrel to be a Sharps.
@@jeanbaptistevallee4500yeah, that seems most likely
Derringer has become like Xerox or Asprin... A proper name that became genericised to the point that most folks don't realize they're appropriating.
Don't forget "Band-Aid"!
Kleenex?
Sawzall and Skil Saw, no one calls them reciprocating and circular saws lol
Or "Simonizing" a car, even if you're using Meguiar's. :D
Dumpster and Escalator
My grandmother always carried three . Two model 3s and a model 4 in the pockets of her overalls while working around the ranch. Just for snakes . But would not hesitate to use them on the two legged version as well !
One time at an Old West reenactment I met a lovely lady who had no less than 10 of these concealed around her person. You'd never know, given the elaborate dress favored by ladies at the time. Really cool bit of living history.
Yes, it sounds like she was a cool bit of living history.
I’ve seen those first models and always wondered about that grip. Assumed it was some kind of anachronistic, styling flourish. Now, I get it. Very interesting to me. Thanx Ian!
@@LaCokaNostra_ Actually, it’s a casual, common vernacular spelling going back generations in parts of the US, Usually, used in letters between friends. I’ll try to clean things up for you next time.
I have one of the more recent versions in .22 short. They often came as a set of two called “The lord and lady”.
I have the set in a lil wooden box they where my grandpa's
I have one in 9mm
I have the sudden urge to challenge someone to a duel after seeing these guns
Airsoft or paintball duels
@@lucky43113 I said guns not toys
@@Alfiy_Wolf You try getting hit by a paint ball without protection.
Shit's a weapon, especially some of the meaner projectiles.
@@VekhGaming bold of you to assume I haven’t
I'm your Huckleberry
That third model with just bronze in the frame must be gorgeous.
I actually have a replica in .22 short that is a bronze frame with walnut grips. It is beautiful, but utterly impractical. It's smaller and difficult to hold. The only markings on it are ".22 Short" and "Butler" which I take to be a model name rather than a manufacturer. My Dad bought it in the 70's.
@@tarmaqueit seems butler was the manufacturer. looked it up, pictures show BUTLER in bold on top of the barrel and either butler manuf. or butler assoc. on the left side, along with caliber
@@tarmaque They're generally known as "Butler Derringers" Several variations were made and often in sets such as the "Lord and Lady" with one gold plated and the other silver plated (or chrome, I can't recall). I do seem to recall them being sold from several sources, and that Colt did that as well. The all-chrome versions were made entirely of 'Zamak", a zinc alloy used in "Saturday Night Specials". Those will shoot all the rifling out in a few boxes of ammo or less. Some brave (or crazy) individuals have bored these for 22 Magnum which might work for the steel barrels but not the Zamak ones. I found the Zamak one I once had would chamber a 22LR, and I shot it with standard-velocity 22LR rounds a fair bit, maybe a box, till just a trace of rifling was left. As far as I know, manufacturing ended with the GCA 1967. I'd always hoped someone would do these again in 38S&W or similar where they'd actually be useful. Considering the repro craze these days, that might just happen.
@@P_RO_ This one has a blued steel barrel. It's been fired, but not extensively. .22 shorts are so uncommon and I see no reason for it to have been chambered for that. My Dad had it for many years, then gave it to me for Christmas one year. I'm trying to remember where it is now. In a box somewhere I'm sure.
I agree one in .38 special would be cool.
@@tarmaque Shorts were not hard to find back when I was shooting frequently, which was long ago. I am not recommending this, but yours will have a steel barrel so if a LR will chamber, it's probably safe to use that.
My aunt passed away in the mid eighties. She was a very sophisticated and well traveled woman for her time. In the process of cleaning out her NYC apartment my mother exclaimed “I wonder why she has a toy gun”. It was a very ornately engraved model 3 with pearl grips. I snatched it up and checked the chamber. I later traded it for a new 870 special purpose magnum combo with 2 barrels. I was thrilled. I still have that shotgun, it was what I needed at the time. It was a beautiful pistol.
I would have kept the model 3 as a family heirloom. You can always find 870s available, you don't always see an antique colt derringer.
Interesting that North American Arms borrowed heavily from Colt's design in their Mini Revolvers. Very reminiscent of Colt's 3rd Model.
Bought on for my wife, when her work uniform made her Model 60 print really obvious. She actually got pretty darn good with the wee gun, keeping all 5 .22 WRMs in a 3-4" group at 10 feet. Modified a nylon ankle holster for her to carry it. Better than being unarmed.
love the tear drop barrel profile on the gen1. classy!
I found a (nearly) full box of .41 rimfire ammo in the gun cabinet my grandfather left me in his will. Weirdly, he didn't own anything in .41 rimfire but I believe his father did...no living relatives know, though, so, it'll stay a mystery, I guess.
My granddad left us a wooden box full of 9mm SMG ammo. It's a mystery why he kept the box, and if he had an SMG stashed away somewhere.
@@peabase God help the person who cleans out my collection after I kick it. They will be wondering how I have things I'm not supposed to have.
@@oldscratch3535 My granddad sure did. When my grandmother predeceased him, she left an unlicensed Walther PP pistol. My granddad must've arranged it with the local police chief, because that was the end of it.
@@oldscratch3535 careful with those admissions of guilt. It's not just us civilians watching Gun Jesus, after all lol
@@Sun-ut9gr Could you tell me exactly what I admitted to? All you know is I have a collection..of something. Maybe its Beanie Babies.
You need to do a show on all the different types of derringers that have ever been including the modern ones, I had no idea thanks for the show.
Very interesting. I've come across several examples of the third models but never saw one of the earlier ones. I would not have made the connection between the two types.
I had always wondered why the grip on the First Model was shaped that way, now I know. Thanks for the info.
Love that simple extractor
Goodmorning everyone
Oh, i was wrong. I thought Derringer was a brand name and deringer was used just to talk about the type in general. I love all the cool historical facts that get fixed for me as a result of this channel.
I have a tiny single shot derringer very similar to these ones. The barrel is pretty corroded but I think it says “Stevens 1867” on it. No idea about the caliber it appears to be some sort of rimfire.
I have a third model that belonged to my Grandpa Tom. It's the only thing left, that I'm aware of, that belonged to him. He died in 1919. My Dad was very young then but he ended up with it when he was grown. I ended up with it after Dad passed. To my knowledge it hasn't been fired in my lifetime. Dad always told me that you "can't hit a rabbit in his bed at six feet" with it. I found a box of .41 short a year or two ago but at $350/box of 50, I did not acquire it.
Maximum coolness Ian, thank you!
I have a third model that looks identical to the one you have here except the barrel is also nickel plated.
Best part of Mondays.
These are honestly beautiful guns, I wish they made reproductions of the third pattern ones in a modern cartridge bigger than .22 rimfire (which is only "modern" by virtue of still being in production).
As a side note, I remember reading somewhere that the two R spelling of "Derringer" was at least initially an attempt to avoid getting sued. Dunno how true that is, though.
The third pattern is so cool, like a "low-res"/chibi Colt revolver. :D
Thanks Ian! I always wondered how the extractor on these worked seeing them on auctions. I wondered if that knife blade extractor was a movable lever or something to that effect. Much simpler in fact.
Ian is getting Stronger.
ahh! i had always thought the older style were the "classic" deringer, and the third pattern were specifically the "colt" derringer. thanks for this!
I like hearing people call them dillinger's at a gun store
The .22s you mentioned were picked up by other companies as well, and they made them a very long time. It was popular when I was young for large companies to give them out to employees in a display case as anniversary and retirement presents to employees. An alternative to the gold retirement watch if you will.
Dang, I'd much rather have a derringer than a watch lol.
@@jasonmanx Me too. Way cooler.
These actually look better than the bond arms version.
.41 is a niche yet interesting caliber.
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I'm pretty sure my step-dad had one of the 22 ones of these but his ex-wife was sure it would be valuable and insisted on getting it in their divorce. He got his 1st year ruger 44 mag carbine instead (winner)
I carry a 38 spl derringer as a backup to my 9mm and spare mag. Cause sometimes pocket works when nothing else does. Better 2 shots then none.
Awesome Ian thank you
Friend of mine literally picked up a Butler produce copy of the 3rd pattern colt derringer in .22 short just yesterday
However hammer is too worn and can’t fire the cartridge
At the time, almost 40 years ago, I needed a shotgun and money was tight. I would love to have it in my collection now. No “do overs” in life.
Davis has made a fortune selling those things
Always a great history lesson
Awesome little gat!
Nice as usual. It would be cool if you could show the cartriges of guns you are showing. Atleast some that are less known.. greatimgs from Croatia 💯
Back in the late 70s a neighbor who was a pretty serious collector had a boxed pair of #4s i never realized they were actually colts.
Cannot help but notice you have both your sleeves rolled up...
At some point it would be good to hear why large bore rim fire was common in early manufacturing, but so rare today. There should still be a market.
Rimfire has thin brass at the rim and hence only works for very low pressures.
There are 3 'R's in derringer.
If I recall correctly, according to some book I read a long time ago, rivals of Deringer made a similar pocket pistol under the trademark "Derringer". That spelling stuck, while the inventor, Deringer, is seen as a misspelling. 😮🙁😵
Another great video Ian, I thoroughly enjoyed learning while eating my lunch. I recently finished a martial arts Drama called Warrior. I loved it for it's story, acting, and realistic fighting.
Thanks to you, I now know what the Deringer used was that I was wondering about.
It was an all nickle 3rd pattern F Alexander Thuer single shot model. The character Wang Chao carried two of them and used both to great effect. He was played brilliantly by Hoon Lee
Lol, it actually occurred to me before I got to that part of the video that if you flipped it around it would make a half-way decent "knuckle duster". All it needs is a tiny flip out bayonet to fully round out it's close-range versatility.
Did the number 2s have the same shape of grip? Seems like the point of a separate wooden grip would be to have better shooting ergonomics while dropping the brass knuckle element
I'm certainly no hand-to-hand expert so feel free to explain in great detail how wrong I am, but I feel like Ian's holding the guns upside down when demonstrating the secondary "Well I shot the guy and it just made him mad" grip for using the gun as a blunt weapon. It just sort of awkwardly sticks out the top of his fist, and while the weight of the gun could add oomph to a punch, it doesn't seem very effective.
Whereas a reversed grip, with the butt of the gun sticking out the pinkie end of the hand, seems like it could be used in a backhand or overhand attack, sort of like a pommel strike with a dagger.
Just an observation.
Funny that the modern Henry Rifle Co. started in Brooklyn. Are they still there, office wise?
Question: does 'barrel length' include the chamber length or just the rifled portion?
It includes the chamber.
Thank you , Ian .
🐺 Loupis Canis .
Good watch ty.
I've also heard Derringers referred to as a 'hooker gun'.
I wonder if the reference was to the pistol's grip design or to the profession of some of it's users?
@@kevinoliver3083because hookers can easily hide it in their bra and whip it out if one of her clients starts getting aggressive
Since the firing pin is an integral part of the hammer, doesn't that technically make it a rotary striker? (Compare and contrast linear hammer systems.) =)
I have one that looks identical to the 3rd model in .22 short, the name on it is Butler.
Are they small or far away
Always a fan of silly little things like this.
It always amazes me how they could make professional looking stuff back then. With metal working, springs, screws, etc. like how did they even make metal back then.
Very carefully lol
Ian, technically, and geographically, I believe that Hartford would be up and over to the east of Brooklyn, NY rather than 'down' as I believe you stated. I was born and raised in that general part of the world.
I’m interested in that small engraving on the No. 1, at the top between the hammer and barrel. Is that flames? Like, “this is where the fire starts”?
Would these old deringers still shoot bullets well?
Ian, regarding that patent, are there any master-lock-like laminated revolver cylinders?
I am surprised they never thought to make some in .32acp. Semi rimmed, it could be made to work and deliver a little more punch than a .41RF, and without BP issues.
Learned alot my grandfather passed ald left me the wood box with two 4th gen 1st models 22short both in good condition my dad said he won them in a poker game
Honestly there was a time where things like this were a really good option. However, now a days, they are just outclassed by other things on the market.
Excellent video as always, Ian. Should discuss how, even though old designs can still do a job, it does not make them a good choice to do that job in the modern era.
I think I will do that
Not a forgotten weapon
Akshually, Ian its 3 r's. Cheers Oliver
Is there a bayonet attachment point?
Really interesting video many thanks. A general question, as the process with the Derringer and many other firearms of the time is fairly complex, did guns tend to come with an instruction manual, or was it assumed people would figure it out themselves?
Where's the link to that Moore revolver mentioned at 2:10?
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What metal is the type 3 made of?
The grip is a different color than the barrel…
Iron & steel?
Highly interesting firearm.
Is the barrel on the First Model original?
It's undecorated and very shiny compared to the rear end.
Or is it just because the grip and action were handled more?
The grip is cast metal.
we spell it with two Rs' prrobably because it sounds morrre aggrrrressive ))) Thank you for another excellent video!
The latest incarnation of Henry firearms was based in Brooklyn till the early 2000s
How hard is it to get a gun smithing career these days because I kinda want to get into gun smithing
Why do this have good looking (or any at all) front sights?
Are they really tiny guns or is Ian a giant ?
Why have you not done Norwegian Krag versions yet?
I challenge you good sir to a duel!!!
Excellent
You had me at teat fire!
A couple of dangerous little question marks
Can you still get ammo for them? Grain and velocity of the bullets?
Remington made a run of non corrosive ammunition in the early 1950's, and again in the early '60s. They are notorious for being duds now. The bullet weight was 130 grains, velocity was low, so low bullets would often bounce off a solid target(tree) and land at your feet.
130 grain lead bullet at roughly 700- 750 FPS. Won't bury the slug fully in hardwood so I wouldn't chance one for defense. Ammo is collectible now and pricey, but it can be had- see the other comment.
If its doing 700 fps it certainly would penetrate! I shoot a 125gr at about 700 fps in Cowboy Action Shooting and that will penetrate a wooden sleeper quite convincingly. (its a PF of 87.5.... so two thirds of the IPSC required PF of 125... thats not trivial!) The previously quoted 425 sounds more like something that would match the stories. Still wouldn't want to get in its way...even in a heavy coat.@@P_RO_
Yeah idk where he’s getting 700fps. Original load was 130gr projectile with 13g black powder for 425fps out of a 3” barrel. Source-cartridges of the world.
I found a box of ammo for sale at the low price of $959 plus tax/shipping.
If you held them so the pistol grip came out under your little finger you could strike down with them. The way you were holding them I can't see how you would use them accept as something to fill your hand. Ok after I typed this, I looked at the comments, someone else already said this.
I'm not saying i would want to be down range of the 41 rimfire but the old joke about them was that a good winter coat was effective body armor against them.. Lol
courious on how survival is it realistically to get shot by one of these so the designers shaped the gun to turn it into a "brass knuckle" style of weapon after shooting. Was it that unreliable? Or was it a just on case kind of feature?
Unlike the movies, getting shot doesn't automatically drop the person being shot
@@christophernemeth421Even when it does, the guy you shot might have friends.
The nr 1 pattern 's grip looks like a dolphin, with the exposed part of the hammer its dorsal fin, but that might be a coincidence
You want your pinky in the curl, and swing it like a hammer.
Less like a knuckle duster, more like a pommel strike.
Super effective.
Doesnt matter. Just wanted to point it out...
God bless all yall!
Great Video 💯💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
Wrong, Ian, Derringers today are spelled with 3 Rs, the original Deringers were spelled with 2.
smarten up, we all know what he meant.
The reason why most people use "Derringer" with a double R is because back in the day (and honestly to this day) "americans" are very bad with pronouncing any foreign names. I know people will dislike this comment alot, but it is what is it. People from the USA seem to be incapable of learning foreign names.
Ain't nothing wrong with having a "Pocket Pistol".... Hell, I carry a full sized .45 Auto, but usually always have a NAA .22 Mag Revolver in my pocket or in an ankle holster... Just in case... Hell, sometimes I carry a little 7 shot Colt New Line Revolver in my pocket... Never as a Primary Carry Piece, just as a "Backup"..... GREAT VIDEO!
Cool 😍
The only cooler Derringer is Rick
All those German names in early US firearms development
It seems like Derringer is spelled with 3 'R's 😂
If the card cheater had however many aces up the sleeve.