Neevesy's definitive review of the highly awaited Triumph Trident 660! | MCN Reviews
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- Опубликовано: 8 июл 2024
- Just when you thought new bikes were getting ever more powerful, complicated and expensive, Triumph have come to the rescue with their new Trident 660.
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My 2010 STR has no ABS, no traction control, no wheelie control, no IMU, and no rider modes. How have I survived on this thing for 60,000 kms? And I just turned 70 years old. My first ride on a Triumph was on a 1950s Thunderbird way back in the 60s. The new Trident is a return to sanity for street riding; who needs 200 hp and mega-complication if you don't ride on a racetrack? 80-100 hp in a 400 lb motorcycle is brutally fast on public roads and I rarely get to use that last 20% of my bike's powerband without risking death or a judge's wrath. Btw the Trident is a really good-looking bike too; hats off to the styling dept.
I loved this structured review compared to the other rant-style reviews
I was going to say the same thing. I had a rant about ‘Neevesy’ myself a few months back and this was a far more modern approach and less of the loutish ‘Men & Motors’ style of bravado and presenting style that should have stayed in the 90s, but somehow, in the world of motorcycling, got carried over for far too long. The absolute best thing was that he was referred to as ‘Michael Neeves’...just a shame that the (likely young and/or sucking up) ‘tech guy’ that uploaded to RUclips used the god awful ‘Neevsey’ moniker in the title (we’re not your old mate from down the track...I want to take you seriously as a motorcycling journalist and reviewer). Still, we’re getting closer to something resembling professionalism and what the viewers and MCN subscribers want.
I rented a Tiger for a week in California. I was gobsmacked ( I’d owned many bikes, but never owned a Triumph) at how smooth the triple motor was and how stable it was in the corners.
Apart from the affordablity, the looks of this bike is what attracts me.
The way the muffler blends in the chassis and doesn't block the view of the rear tire is awesome.
exhaust is styled to cover a massive 30 pound black box emissions underneath thats more than a hand thick and goes all the way across the bottom. at this point all is lost, and Im looking at u EU with the ridiculous emission regs now. sure u can get a whole new cat delete system. for now. IC engine will be a memory soon enough. were frogs being boiled slowly but it wont be long now. as for the engine triumph neutered that at the camshaft. I test rode this, power curve drops off like u fell off a cliff. its made more torquey, made to sound good, and look good, but its a gutless wonder above 100. gets there pretty quick an with a good sound, but thats about it, take 10 miles or more to get to 120 which probably its top speed. if yur lucky. and the nannys cut in all the time way too much for me, do u like the throttle cut mid corner, and brakes applied? I dont. i wouldnt buy anything newer than say 2015 nowadays. or get a scooter be more thrilling than this. sad.
@@ribalderr6052 angry old man alert
When I was a kid I used to like my neighbor’s Honda NTV 650 Revere, it was in the early 90’s. This new Triumph kinda sends me that vibe, a good all rounder, urban midsize commuter bike. Nothing special, but good enough to manage your daily chores in style.
The best optional for this bike is by far the awesome quickshifter. None of the rivals offer that.
Yes they do, the Honda CB500F does!
Triumph must have told all reviewers to say “confidence inspiring” at some point. Heard it in every single review so far lol.
I do not think that I would be to confident about changing the oil on a triumph ever 10,000 miles!
They invite them all and given them a presentation on the bike. Then the reviewers just regurgitate what they were told - even if they don't realise it. Its like someone asks you a leading question, they say do you like this type of cheese? I personally think its really great because of its creamy texture and how it melts in your mouth. Then when you go talk about said cheese to someone else, you will inevitably describe it in those same qualities without realising that these ideas were fed to you subconsciously. It takes someone who is really aware of the phycological tricks that companies employ to understand what's happening and form their own thoughts.
@@JamesWilson-ve9zi big selling point the 10k servicing. That's where you get your money back on this expensive bike Vs the mt-07 z650 etc
@@chrishart8548 how you still have to do the service every year completely useless unless you ride so many miles which almost no one does
@@Keka-vg3ut that's a lot of miles for a bike a year. Chains sprockets tyres brakes etc are going to be more of a concern than services. And motorcycles are rubbish on fuel my ford transit diesel connect 1.5 econetic gets 63mpg. Bet even the bike struggles to get that!
Your reviews are easy to engage with... specific technical and personable 😊
Excellent review -- best I've watched so far!
Fab review, as usual you've covered all the angles. Might seek a test on this one.
How thoughtful, how precise! Thank you.
Great review and thanks for taking about taller riders comfort. Looking forward to riding the Tri660 here in Thailand.
Nicely analysed,thank you.
What a well presented and informed review of what is looking like for many the bike to own 👍🏻
I have a street twin and it came with perfect exhaust pipes. Good sounds and brushed stainless finish.
Hello, Michael ! So enjoyable to hear you talk honestly about motorcycles ! Especially qualities and negatives of every components ! 👍👌
"If you want to have fun, go with the Yamaha. But the Trident is the best all-around bike". LOL. I thought the whole purpose of riding motorcycles was to have fun. Guess I'll look at the new updated MT-07.
Thanks for the lovely, lovely review! All the facts required and none of the nonsense which creeps into reviews by other people.
Superb looking bike and sounds really good even on uTube 😊
Cheers
His reviews are are some of the best...
hey when will you ride the new monster ????
Quality review. Thank you!
trident for those who don't like bug eyes street triples.
Those twin chrome roundies on my 2010 STR look gorgeous especially while riding the bike in the sunlight.
Love the bug eyes of my `99 Speedy ;-)
I just can’t get past the street triple headlights. I hate them. I want the bike but know I’m gonna be hating those lights every time I look at them.
Well the street triple outperforms the trident even the s it's not really a competeter
@@stephenbriggs1736 Have you ever seen one in person? They look great.
Fantastic professional review
I like the design. Robust looking yet gentle in appearance.
Cheers ... great review 👊
Great review. My 18yr old son has been riding a KTM 125 for two years now - I think this is the perfect 1st big bike for him.
cheers mate, great review
Great review......as always 👍
I think it's difficult to argue that Triumph wins the fit and finish game. They have figured out how to mold metal and abs together like fine art, hide cables and hoses (try and find one with the naked eye standing back looking at their bikes) and really just produce a bike that at any price point, you'd be proud to own. Seeing the unveiling of the brand new Speed Triple RS, it's obvious Triumph is out to dominate the market. I would drop the $18,500+ for the newly redesigned Speed Triple before I'd give a penny to any of the Ducati naked's lines. I own a Tuono and I'll admit the most manufacturers in this space have rested on their laurels with their heritage models and not really changed much. Triumph is out there innovating and re-tooling for battle. Well done Triumph.
For advanced riders and racers its fun and plenty for the road plus you keep your licence. Strongly recommend it
Love the review.. Mcn reliable info. Cheers
Only MCN tester worth listening to, in my opinion
Great real world applicable review. Nice bike! Never owned a Triumph and this would be a good start/finish. I do, as a past Hawaii based FZ-07 owner, hope this gets Yamaha off their butts on a real MT-07 update.
It’s still selling like hotcakes, so I doubt they will mess with it
I simply love it!
Solid review. This could be a great first bike for me
Great review, thx
The review we have all been waiting for. Now we know.
Good, no wrist ache and you’re 6’. Thanks.
Good review and a great looking and sounding bike. I might have to go test ride one once COVID dies!
Best review. Neevsey
Love the way it looks , classic look with all modern equipment ❤️ , Triumph has raised the bar in this segment for Japanese motorbikes .
People keep calling bikes like this beginner bikes... but they have more than enough power for experienced people...
Its strange. In the car world you don't say a 320i is a "beginners car" just because it has a 2l instead of the 3l straight 6.
I have a ninja 1k but still keep my sv 650 for kicking about town and commuting and its a blast to ride!
It's beginner friendly is what most reviewers are saying. I bought a Triumph Trident and I've been riding for 36 years it's a great all rounder in my opinion.
@@ChrisWolf75 Yeah I'd consider one myself tbh. Light middleweight bikes are some of the most fun you can have on 2 wheels.
Sure ripping the throttle on a litre bike is intense and fun... but it can be frustrating when you can't. Being able to rag a 650cc bike for all its worth and chuck it about with confidence is just as much, if not more fun!
Triples are great engines. Very similar to V4 with torque and high revving but with a little more character. Not too smooth. Triple way easier to work on vs a V4
Waiting for mine.
I just bought one, great bike 👍👍
Best review on this bike I've watched so far. I gave up riding after I sold my Triumph TT600 in 2005. This motorcycle is drawing me back to riding. Thanks for the detail in the review.
Watch 44teeth
@ I watched 44teeth prior to this one.
A very measured review as always. And you mentioned the tyres which I think is kinda important. Is this a first post-test proposition?
with this Triumph Trident 660 and Aprilia RS 660 like new bikes there, i dont know if people who rides casually, need bigger bikes. I think the market for powerful litre class bikes is going to be very down in coming years.
The main reason I'd buy a bigger engined bike is to get a bigger frame. If I wanted a sports bike I would buy a litre one purely because I find all the outright sports 600s too small. If I wanted an ADV/Touring/ST type bike, the only reason I'd get a 1200-ish cc big model is if I was 2 up touring, the extra power and longer wheelbase is worth having for 2 people + kit. Riding 1 up, an 800 model is better. Being smaller and lighter is a big plus and the power is plenty.
6:38 that guy runs a red light 🤣
I'll tell you what I would like to see - middle weight motorcycles with shaft drive! The only offering right now is the Motto Guzzi V7. I'm not asking for DCT or any of that. Just a simple shaft drive on a great bike. Last one I had and loved was my 1982 Yamaha Seca 650 Turbo.
While everyone is now in the retro and mid-sized mindset/buying frenzy, I think there all missing out on a huge market share of riders with my mindset. I don't want ride modes, ABS, traction control... I want a shaft driven motorcycle in the mid-sized class UJM, or sport touring style of bike. Is that too much to ask?
Head and shoulders above the other bikes, mmm. Time will tell.
Is it more like the speed triple or street triple? Which would you get if they were all the same price since I can buy the other two used
What I'm really waiting for is how it sounds with an aftermarket exhaust haha
Road 5's, vey nice Triumph.
When i want to trade in my 2009 street triple 675 r this would be an option it looks great
Your review came out last and its the definitive one.
The last of the "reviews" done by the Triumph Ambassadors (or whatever they call the select few that got invited to vacation in Spain). I am waiting for the first of the critical reviews, with comparisons between the Trident and the Japanese competition. From the guys that Triumph no longer invites to these press junkets. Does Triumph management not realize that we are well aware of how their product rollouts are orchestrated?
Cor, that's a real looker
I hate the way pretty much every motor journalist equates experience with big cc motorcycles and speed.
I've had all the large CCs motorcycles , if anything experience has taught me that small cc motorcycles are more fun and speed is usually best left at the racetrack.
When do we get a version with half/sports fairing?
That good a review I went to my local triumph dealership and put down a deposit. Roll on March, can’t bloody wait 😎
I managed to bump the price up to £8600 with extras, you’ve been warned
😂
@@kwaufwhesjwjks1753 That’s the on the road price, so no.
@Fair weather Rider - how is it?
What extras did you order? I did the same-pillion grab handle, little mini windscreen, and best of all, the quickshifter. Picking it up next Friday
Great review, thanks. I didn’t hear you compare against the Suzuki SV650, any reason why? Would you not put that in a similar group to the MT07, z650, CB650R etc? I’m asking because I’ve got my eye on the SV as my first bike. I prefer the more classic round headlight styling to the other Japanese bikes but the Trumph looks and sound great too. I understand there’s better equipment in the Triumph but just not sure I want to fork out another £2k.
Nice review!
How do you think it compares with the cb650r directly?
Considering the cb has around 15bhp more?
Cheers
Aaron
Hi, what about two-up in this bke?
OK, lovely.
Now where's my updated *Speed Triple* ? C'mon, Triumph, bring me some fresh horsepower. My '14 is starting to get long in the tooth. It's time.
The 1160 is rumored to have upward of 185hp and 95ftlb of torque. I've been all over any little nugget of news about the thing. It was supposed to be officially launched at EICMA. But hey, covid lol
I have a 2020 Speed Triple RS, it has enough power for me, but some people do seem to want more !
Only things I'd change on my one, is a single round headlight like the Trident here, a larger fuel tank and scrap keyless ignition. Otherwise it is perfect for me.
@@karlosh2422 Don't. Mess. with. the. Headlights!
@@Miata822 LOL ! Each to there own. I have to admit the twin headlights on the Speed Triple do give a better spread of light as compared to my Speed Twin, I just prefer the look of a single round headlight . i.e. I seem to prefer form over function . Maybe I should stop complaining about my Speed Triple's lights !
Do you think this will spur development on larger / bigger displacement?
Wonder how the steel frame and swing arm will stand up to a few British winters! I've seen some serious rust on some MT-07's swing arms,also seen some really poor welds.
Let's hope Triumph have not skimped on materials and finish in these areas.
This bike would be the perfect do it all bike for the one bike rider.
I am an experienced rider, and I'm considering this bike. The price is attractive, as is the handling that pretty much all reviewers have praised. This would be my primary motorcycle. Do you see this bike as adverse to putting bags on for everyday use, plainly being useful as a grocery getter, as well as not being unsufferable for occasional solo touring?
"Honest review"? Well it must be good, it makes Triumph sound as if they can walk on water. For my part in buying anything I always wait until it been out for over a year. I let time be an honest judge, some reviews make me wonder if "someone is getting a drink out of it"?
He does sound very much a Triumph fan boy
Do not expect an "honest" review from Brits, even if they try not to be biased (some do), most of them are in the manufacturer's pocket. Bad review = lack of invitation for next "event", and that equal no money and slow YT channel death. Unless of course, they can offer some other content, but most don't.
@@hosuyakawayazuki I think you might be mixing a professional road tester up with something else completely...
@@neevesybikes I don't mix anything, it is a simple mechanism. Works on many business levels. Especially for well established professionals :)
It's true the British press have always been gooey eyed for Triumph. Stick to the facts and ride the bikes yourselves, I say.
Come on Triumph, now in the range the only bike that’s missing is a new generation Sprint ST!!!!!! PLEEEAAASEEEEE!!!!
Nice review. I wonder about price in Canada. I'd love one in the stable.😁
The Trident is around 9800 + tax in Canada but most dealers are completely sold out.
Every comparo has missed the SV650 out as direct competition. Except John Hogan at Bike World. He even said he'd remove the MT07 and replace it with the XSR700, similar customer demographic etc, round bits etc. I agree.
Both the above will be imo more fun and unique.
Yeah, I keep wondering why the SV650 does not seem to get mentioned. It is even cheaper than the Z650, and it is a naked middle weight.
I don't need this bike (have an older, perfectly good Street Triple). But strangely, I want this bike! A slightly comfier, slightly mellower Street Trip is kind of exactly what I want. Must be getting old...
Very late reply on my part, but definitely agree. I'm too young to have ridden back then but almost reminds me of what the original Monster represented when it came out, too-a sporty but still friendly roadster based on a sportbike engine. A true "everyday" sporty bike.
@@chrisr6894 Heh, 7 month gang! But yeah, I think I called it. These are sold out everywhere, another hit for Triumph.
I hope they make a street triple that looks more like this. I don't hate how the street triple looks as the bug eyes do grow on you... but I prefer this!
You should always change your oil every year even if you don't ride since water can get in the engine just from the moisture in the air. Nothing to be too concerned about but oil is also hydroscopic and should be drained yearly at least.
Just got my 2023. Love it. Few recommendations - gear ratio is too low end. Shouldnt be running 50 mph at 3500 rpm in 6th gear, maybe a 750 cc motor, wheelbase 2" longer.
Nice review. But I’m very curious about Voge. The high end Chinese motorcycle. Cheap but very beautiful and equipped nice. The 500r very slick looking bike and the 650ds is a competitor to the Suzuki v strom 650. It looks better than the Suzuki and better priced. Can’t wait to see you guys review these bikes.
Yes, they may look good - but they're stil made from Chinesium!
@@davidmayer4579 does that mean the triumph is made from thailandium?
best review ever
Any news at all about the new speed 1160?
I’m bought
Hi Neevesy, some months after seeing tbis I ordered one. The Triumph dealership advised me not to get the Bluetooth connection as it is too distracting/ dangerous. Otherwise i just opted for a tail tidy from Evotech
How long did it take from ordering to delivery?
As a student who doesn’t have much this is perfect in every way
Mr Neaves on point as always but I watched this launch on 44 Teeth 4 days ago. Come on MCN.
Anyone know the track from the intro?
Why did MCN feel the need to put the word "honest" in the title, and then an exclamation point at the end? Is it so we wouldn't think we were watching an advertisement? (just joking)
Honest question: Why is the sv650 never mentionned in the competitors of this bike ?
I just test rode the Triumph Street Tripple RS yesterday. I really loved it. unlike the MT09 that has a front wheel that never feels planted. the RS felt really good. just what I like in a bike. the only thing I wish is that it had an upper fairing, because at higher speeds the wind was hammering me. but I would still like to own one. the only problem is where I live the price is really crazy, in America money it would be around $16.000 dollars, and the new Trident will be around $10.000. but it's the same thing with other brands. the Z650 and Mt07 are also around 10 grand. but I am going to keep my eye out for a used RS. I also test road a Speed Twin and really liked that also. its a great around town bike with lots of torque. and didn't feel heavy at all. and I like that 1200 twin sound. Triumph is really making some nice bikes. they still have their classic style Bonneville but they also have the modern bikes with the modern tec.
KTM Duke 890?
You can get a brand new suzuki Gsxs750 for the same price. 113 bhp compared to 80 of the trident I don't understand why people overlook that bike
I was looking at one. I think the lack of any updates hurts the GSXS in 2021. They just keep repainting it
@@booshting3520 yea think suzuki rely heavily on discounts to get the sales. Good bikes but don't get updated often and when they launch a new bike they gave us the katana ffs. Come on suzuki sort it
With the steel frame will it go the same way, rust wise, as the MT07?
Not if they properly treated, primed/painted it, unlike Yamaha
I’d deffo buy one! But for my first big bike I’m hesitant to buy a new one. I’ll be looking into the used market for now
That’s definitely NOT a big bike, go buy one with confidence!
@@Lasergun74 this is the best beginner friendly and perfect bike any comp can offer in premium segment
Take a look at recent SV650's if you're taking that route. Top value for money
I prefer new and make payments. Yes, it costs more in the long run, but it's so spread out it's painless. Meanwhile owning new is sweet.
@@anneakhil5331 agree 100%
What jacket are you riding with and what’s the number one leather jacket you’d recommend to someone?
Dainese or Alpinestars
Triumph, you have my attention?! This is an AWESOME Motorcycle, Wonder if there will be a Scrambler version?
This is gorgeous but agreed it would be wicked in a scrambler option!
So, what is more fun to ride? The Royal Enfield Interceptor GT 650, the new 2021 Moto Guzzi V7, or the Trident?
the trident. the other two bikes are retro classics and are not as modern suspennsion wise
The service intervals are misleading unless you do a lot of miles each year. 10,000 mile service intervals sounds good but if you only do about 3,000 - 4,000 miles per year then you still need to get it serviced yearly. It would benefit me because i had a street triple with 6,000 mile intervals and i averaged about 9,000 miles per year so it was getting serviced well before the year was up so 10,000 mile intervals would have benefitted me
So frustrating living in australia where all of these bikes get detuned into LAMS versions, and we can't buy the full power version.
Hello 🎅🏼
this is it
I love this bike - I might replace my 2018 T120 with it!
Wait - the Street Triple, not the Street Twin, was the entry level bike at Triumph?
There wasn't much difference between the Street Triple 660cc or Street Twin as to what was the entry point before this.
I'd like to know how the running costs compared to the big 4 Japanese competitors. 10k service intervals are great but will make no difference if it's 10k/12 months 😏
The salesman I spoke with told me it’s 10k or 1yr for the oil change at least
@@dhhjsjzjzjjhsjsjh Which is what I would expect tbh.
In the south east UK at least, Triumph dealers are notorious for astronomical servicing costs, so even if intervals are longer, costs over the bike's lifetime could still be the same or higher.
@@dhhjsjzjzjjhsjsjh so no benefit to almost every potential buyer of these as most will be leisure bikers and not all year around commuters 🤨
@@ricklehurst Learn to change your own oil. Buy a shop manual and do your own maintenance checks. Nobody cares about your bike more than you do.
he missed the most important question we all are eager to "is it reliable"??
A bit too new to know, at the moment. Tho' I,ve had mine for 9 months, with no problems.
But I understand the 660 has a better suspension for cornering and curves than the MT-07?
Everything else has better suspension than the mt07. And that is not a joke
The Street Triple S has the 765 engine, not the 660 engine.
Edit: my bad... US STriple S and UK STriple S are different spec.
The old model was the 675.
Never mind hadn’t watched that bit yet
Current Street Triple S has a 660 engine, I think A2 restricted from the factory. Obviously it can be derestricted to 94bhp. They dropped the 765 capacity Triple S in the last year or so.
They did used to do 2 different street triple S models, the 765 and the 660. Now it is down to just the 660cc.
@@karlosh2422
I think the confusion here is country-specific... I'm in the States, where there is no power-restricted licensing, so we never got the 660cc version.
@@rjwz28 Ahh, yeah, that would explain it. Not really much point in the 660cc A2 Street Triple in the USA :)