I think there was supposed to be 3 smgs. The mp5k, smg2 and vanilla smg. But the vanilla smg was slower firing and had a zoom feature. Or at least it was like that in e3 2003.
@@nickie115 In the 2001 beta there were only 2 SMGs. In the 2003 beta, there were three SMGs... sort of. The third and final version of the SMG has a complicated history. It was never intended to be an SMG3. It was originally supposed to be a replacement for the SMG2, an updated version of it (both were MP7s after all). Later, Valve decided that having two SMGs would be a waste of inventory space for the player, so ultimately, the MP5k that was the original SMG1 was also scrapped, and it's grenade launcher functionality was given to the new SMG2. With the third SMG being the only one left in the game, it was renamed the SMG1. This seemed to be a last minute decision, since the gun was never modeled with a grenade launcher, as it wasn't originally intended to use a grenade launcher, so in the retail version of the game, it sort of just fires grenades out of thin air.
xxFalconArasxx TLDR: The Retail SMG was going to replace the Beta SMG (the one in this video) and be one of two SMG’s ingame along with the MP5K. But then Valve realized having two virtually similar SMG’s was a bit redundant and removed the MP5K, giving its Grenade launcher ability to the Retail SMG. There never was a true SMG3
Fun fact, the pistol reload in Vanilla HL2 was added many years after release. Originally, it just had a sound effect for the mag falling out, followed by silence.
The crowbar hitting walls animation really feels good in game. You can feel the impact, i haven't seen that sort of animation in any other game that conveys the feeling of impact so well.
The model for the retail version of the AR2 was in the 2003 beta as the I-Rifle. I don't think the I-Rifle existed in the 2001 beta though. I think it was just the OICW as the AR2, and the AK47 as the AR1.
@@xxfalconarasxx5659 the weapons really didn't change much until late 2003 when most guns were cut. I know the flare gun was going to be in for a long time until cut but I'm not sure about the I rifle
The gun was supposed to be some sort of combine flare gun I think.. I'm not sure. But the model is still named irifle and the reloading animation is that of the beta
When it comes to the weapons, for the most part I agree, but in general I don't think the final game holds a candle to the original vision and potential found in the leaked files.
@@southpaw117 Most weapons where redundant (for exapmle, the ak being basically the ar1, the mp5k being the smg, and so on) , i still dont comprehend why they cutted the OICW and the tau cannon though, these weapons where kinda good (specially the tau cannon)
@@cxoll.8563 The Tau Cannon would have been cool, but the OICW was too prominent in that it overlapped many roles. I can see why they cut it so that you'd have reason to cycle through your weapons depending on the situation.
@@synthgal1090 I actually do love the old beta "physgun" model (with the spinny barrel) it's just that perspective It's like Gordon is holding it up right on his nose lol, maybe that's how the story goes, he tried firing it like that once...broke his nose & was like "ok yeah ow I better fire this thing from the hip" lol
@@kabeam5643 Great the only sci-fi weapon that returned from the original and was eliminated just like the aliens, and the mp5, good job valve, very fucking good
@@H.Cat725 I supposed they have their reasons (maybe the weapon was overpowered? or maybe it didnt came out as they wanted it to), im not sure why they cutted it out of the game (the player was originally supposed to be able to pick it up from the buggy car in the final map of highway 17, where you are at the lighthouse point, heck there are even animations and dialogue sequences related to this)
Сколько знаю HL2, всегда удивлял тот факт что у пистолета в финальной версии убрали отстрел гильз. Такое ощущение что они где строчку пропустили, но с другой стороны игре столько лет, что да же патчами это не вылечили.
Changes between 2001 and 2004: Pistol: Slightly higher quality textures, reload sound changed. SMG: Higher quality model and grenade effects. Shotgun: Larger, higher quality textures and animations. AR2: Changed from an XM29 OICW to a completely fictional weapon, energy ball launcher added and scope removed. Grenade: Higher quality textures and animations, red light and ticking sound added. RPG: MUCH higher quality model, textures and animations, laser sight added. Binoculars: Replaced with HEV zoom feature, also now a single zoom resolution Bugbait: Higher quality model and textures, squeeze feature added, sounds changed. Tau Cannon: Mounted on the scout car, new model, now spins when charged. Crowbar: Slightly thinner. Gravity Gun: Complete design overhaul.
how do you know these are from 2001? the earliest leak we have is from 2003 and there are some older weapon assets in there sure but not for all of them
1) It got leaked 2) The art styles changed like 4 different times 3)It was on the verge of being cancelled due to the huge leak. 4) Alot of beta areas are in the retail game. Valve are big on reuse. 5) The original main story was scrapped twice and remade. Im pretty sure alot of this is in the book 'Raising the bar' if your interested.
@@Raven-Purple writing and creating a polished game is all about adopting and discarding concepts to further refine it into something better Beta assets are interesting but they do not truly represent what valve had in mind.
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find it funny how beta HL2 had bullet casings hitting the ground but retail HL2 doesnt for most guns
TacticalBananas PCs at the time couldn’t handle it
They actually do, its just really quiet because of the ambiant sounds in vanilla.
Not sounds,the actual casing hitting the floor.
What do you mean? the retail version does have bullet casings hitting the ground
The "beta" smg is actually a cut smg2. The smg1 in the beta was supposed to be mp5k. Correct that please
I think there was supposed to be 3 smgs. The mp5k, smg2 and vanilla smg.
But the vanilla smg was slower firing and had a zoom feature. Or at least it was like that in e3 2003.
@@nickie115 There is no evidence of the third smg in the leaks code
@@nickie115 the vanilla basically took the worst aspects of the 2 smgs and added the oicw grenade launcher
@@nickie115 In the 2001 beta there were only 2 SMGs. In the 2003 beta, there were three SMGs... sort of. The third and final version of the SMG has a complicated history. It was never intended to be an SMG3. It was originally supposed to be a replacement for the SMG2, an updated version of it (both were MP7s after all). Later, Valve decided that having two SMGs would be a waste of inventory space for the player, so ultimately, the MP5k that was the original SMG1 was also scrapped, and it's grenade launcher functionality was given to the new SMG2. With the third SMG being the only one left in the game, it was renamed the SMG1. This seemed to be a last minute decision, since the gun was never modeled with a grenade launcher, as it wasn't originally intended to use a grenade launcher, so in the retail version of the game, it sort of just fires grenades out of thin air.
xxFalconArasxx TLDR: The Retail SMG was going to replace the Beta SMG (the one in this video) and be one of two SMG’s ingame along with the MP5K. But then Valve realized having two virtually similar SMG’s was a bit redundant and removed the MP5K, giving its Grenade launcher ability to the Retail SMG. There never was a true SMG3
Beta pistol: Has recoil. Ejects bullets. Has finalized reload sound.
Retail pistol:
Ikr
The beta pistol also deals less damage than the retail, deals only 3 damage which is 1 point less than the smg per shot.
The beta pistol model is from mega patch 4, so not sure if it's fair.
Ejects... bullets...? *sounds of a weapons expert yelling out loud*
It's either brass or shells, dude
@@nick4560 Well technically it does eject bullets (not visibly though), but that's probably not what was meant.
Fun fact, the pistol reload in Vanilla HL2 was added many years after release. Originally, it just had a sound effect for the mag falling out, followed by silence.
Added after it was introduced in HL2EP2 I think, and only after they ported the game to mac.
i just realised that the weapons and Gordon's arm look really THICC in the beta
gordon is a big boi
T H I C C
Our dad gordon IS T H I C C
That's probably the noisiest pairnof binoculars I've ever seen
For the times I’ve played Half-Life 2, I forgot the Tau Cannon had a charging mechanism
Lol I like how arrogant the shotgun is in the beta...
Like it’s shooting a 9 mm glock 18
Houndeye and bullsquid: wants to be in half-life 2
Valve: Im sorry little one
The crowbar hitting walls animation really feels good in game. You can feel the impact, i haven't seen that sort of animation in any other game that conveys the feeling of impact so well.
Good ol'days playing Half Life 2 Beta, love the nostalgia.
On the AR2, you can switch between 2 modes: Scope and Grenade Launcher. You can switch modes by pressing X by default.
Not in the actual leak as it was taken out by that time but in leaknet then yes
@@RIPANDTEAR60 Yes indeed, in later versions the grenade launcher ammo space is still visible, but there is no way to switch over to it.
Beta vs retail tau cannon to me: THEY MASSACRED MY BOY
I gotta say that the beta smg actually looks better then the smg in the retail version
Yeah it looks powerful
The beta RPG looks dope
The AR2 too, It's look like a hybrid between the vector and aug
SCP-682 it’s a real gun too
@@nfwrambo Whats its name then
@@v_salat OICW
The Beta weapons are cool
The AR2 (vanilla) was originally an incendiary rifle (i-rifle) in the beta right?
Yes
The model for the retail version of the AR2 was in the 2003 beta as the I-Rifle. I don't think the I-Rifle existed in the 2001 beta though. I think it was just the OICW as the AR2, and the AK47 as the AR1.
@@xxfalconarasxx5659 the weapons really didn't change much until late 2003 when most guns were cut. I know the flare gun was going to be in for a long time until cut but I'm not sure about the I rifle
The gun was supposed to be some sort of combine flare gun I think.. I'm not sure. But the model is still named irifle and the reloading animation is that of the beta
the weapon model name is irifle, so yeah
BETA shotgun was more similar to HL1 shotgun (better in my opinion) what a missed oportunity
The beta looks pretty damn good for 2001. But I think the vanilla is better.
When it comes to the weapons, for the most part I agree, but in general I don't think the final game holds a candle to the original vision and potential found in the leaked files.
Don't forget that it's very unfinished.
@@southpaw117 Most weapons where redundant (for exapmle, the ak being basically the ar1, the mp5k being the smg, and so on) , i still dont comprehend why they cutted the OICW and the tau cannon though, these weapons where kinda good (specially the tau cannon)
@@cxoll.8563 The Tau Cannon would have been cool, but the OICW was too prominent in that it overlapped many roles. I can see why they cut it so that you'd have reason to cycle through your weapons depending on the situation.
@@southpaw117 I certainly agree
I kinda like the beta version of the shotguns alt fire, it has alot more umph to it
Me when my parents sleep: sneak
My parents when is sleep: beta binoculars
Glad they ended up going with the off center gravity gun, the beta is hideous tbh.
tbh I kinda like how hideous it is, it looks like it was thrown together from junk
@@synthgal1090 I actually do love the old beta "physgun" model (with the spinny barrel) it's just that perspective
It's like Gordon is holding it up right on his nose lol, maybe that's how the story goes, he tried firing it like that once...broke his nose & was like "ok yeah ow I better fire this thing from the hip" lol
@@synthgal1090 I'm pretty sure the point was that it's thrown together from junk
What happened with the tau cannon? Thing was badass on its own.
I think it was just too powerful so they nerfed it to be on the car.
@@kabeam5643 Great the only sci-fi weapon that returned from the original and was eliminated just like the aliens, and the mp5, good job valve, very fucking good
@@H.Cat725 *coughs in Full Game*
@@H.Cat725 I supposed they have their reasons (maybe the weapon was overpowered? or maybe it didnt came out as they wanted it to), im not sure why they cutted it out of the game (the player was originally supposed to be able to pick it up from the buggy car in the final map of highway 17, where you are at the lighthouse point, heck there are even animations and dialogue sequences related to this)
Wow beta looks like hl1 with a boost. Glad they waited and worked more on it.
Сколько знаю HL2, всегда удивлял тот факт что у пистолета в финальной версии убрали отстрел гильз. Такое ощущение что они где строчку пропустили, но с другой стороны игре столько лет, что да же патчами это не вылечили.
Whoever designed the beta gravity gun, likes steampunk.
beta shotgun sounds are better that vanilla, i think
it sounds louder in my opinion, and kinda strange.
I love the beta AR2 where it is half sniper, half assault rifle
Its based off of an actual rifle called the OICW. Look it up. Its a pretty interesting gun
@@tjrizvi251 i have to agree
It looks so weird in a hands of a 2000s soldiers hands
Like it doesn't fit
@@mrgrinderman8861 even today it doesnt fit. It was essentially a grenade launcher with a rifle attached.
@@tjrizvi251 tbh IT sounds like a nerf attachment
Changes between 2001 and 2004:
Pistol: Slightly higher quality textures, reload sound changed.
SMG: Higher quality model and grenade effects.
Shotgun: Larger, higher quality textures and animations.
AR2: Changed from an XM29 OICW to a completely fictional weapon, energy ball launcher added and scope removed.
Grenade: Higher quality textures and animations, red light and ticking sound added.
RPG: MUCH higher quality model, textures and animations, laser sight added.
Binoculars: Replaced with HEV zoom feature, also now a single zoom resolution
Bugbait: Higher quality model and textures, squeeze feature added, sounds changed.
Tau Cannon: Mounted on the scout car, new model, now spins when charged.
Crowbar: Slightly thinner.
Gravity Gun: Complete design overhaul.
how do you know these are from 2001? the earliest leak we have is from 2003 and there are some older weapon assets in there sure but not for all of them
Check the website in the description for more information.
I’m pretty sure the 2003 leak was everything from 2001 to when Valve stopped using/protecting that server
a lot of these models are actually fan recreations
Dat WIP SMG 👌😂
Good thing it got finished in the retail release
Feels like the beta and the vanilla are two separate games XD
In the beta freeman is just knocking the crowbar into things instead swinging at things
Who else didn’t notice that the buggy gun was the tau cannon
Huh.... i actually haven't seen some of these. Neat
Vanila is better
The hl2 beta is very cooler than the retail, because the hl2 beta had some cool stuff.
Woah, what a well argumented opinion.
man please bring some new to the table when it comes to this, explain yourself!
so glad the ar2 is as it is
am i the only one who thinks that the hl2 bugbait looks so delicious lmao
Oh yeah New vid
Beta shotgun: have pretty good looking model and finished reloading animation...
Retail shotgun: 1:24😂
the beta reload animation sucked ass though.
Good vid
i find it funny that the pistol got a downgrade
Where can I download the beta build from this video? With these particular weapons?..
From a hl2 beta russian website
Make sure to get the mega build version
I love your videos
The Ar2 in the beta isn't an Ar2, it's an Ar1
OICW*
One of the best game ever
Vanilla ar2 is the pulse rifle
Beta is more interesting than retail
Can you tell me the name of the song at the end?
%93 Really? You need Some sponsore or other thing
GORDON FREEMAN hi Gordon 👋
@@n0body704 hi Yoshi 👋
Beta shotgun is infinitely better
The sound? The damage values and the overall coding (i think) is the same as in the retail version
HOW DO YOU GET HL2 BETA???
I can barely tell that is 60 FPS
This is not from 2001. I refuse to belive it
It is
2001?
How to download half life 2 beta ?
You forgot about the crossbow but it's still a good video half life is one of my favorite games
No crossbow in 2001
@@noclick oh ok
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Idk why Valve had to change the original Half LIfe 2
1) It got leaked
2) The art styles changed like 4 different times
3)It was on the verge of being cancelled due to the huge leak.
4) Alot of beta areas are in the retail game. Valve are big on reuse.
5) The original main story was scrapped twice and remade.
Im pretty sure alot of this is in the book 'Raising the bar' if your interested.
Still they shouldn’t changed it
@@Raven-Purple
writing and creating a polished game is all about adopting and discarding concepts to further refine it into something better
Beta assets are interesting but they do not truly represent what valve had in mind.
@@1005rhys The leak didnt changed anything, by 2003, these versions where already scrapped
Aww man
Vanilla is far better thant beta
Indeed it is, altough both versions are interesting in their own ways
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0:50 This is not retail.
ffff