Which Rust Remover is Best?! Part 2
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- Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
- A few months ago I made a video comparing different rust removal methods • Which Rust Remover is ...
After that video, viewers flooded the comment section with their own DIY rust removal methods. So I made this video to try out some of the most popular suggestions. If you have any suggestions you'd like to see in part 3, make sure to let me know in the comments.
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My thoughts on the methods in this video:
Molasses - This was one of the most commonly suggested DIY methods. The results after a 72-hour soak didn't really show this as a great method though. There was a bit of rust removal, so perhaps it needs a much longer soak time. So many people suggested it, so there is probably something to it. But not the best method unless you have a couple of weeks to wait.
Molasses With Water - The results were pretty much the same as the molasses by itself, so I am not sure what the introduction of the water is supposed to accomplish. My only guess would be to make the molasses go further if you were working on larger pieces.
Kerosene - This method didn't produce much of a result. There was the tiniest amount of surface rust removal, but I think that might have washed away with any liquid. Kerosene is a good solvent that is sometimes used as a cleaning agent, but doesn't really make the grade as a rust remover.
Apple Cider Vinegar - This method worked great! I've used white vinegar before for rust removal and this Apple Cider Vinegar performed just as well. Cheap and readily available, this is a great DIY rust removal option.
Energy Drink: This one was a bit of a shocker, but the results showed that it can actually work. This particular drink has a high citric acid content so I am guessing that is where the rust removal action is coming from. Energy drinks can be pretty expensive so it would be a better option to just buy plain citric acid. But if it's all you've got at the time, it can definitely knock some rust off.
Hydrochloric Acid: One of the best options I tried for this video. It's a powerful acid that might not be readily available, and should be handled with the proper caution and safety equipment in place. But if you are comfortable using it properly, it will really knock the rust off!
Human Urine - Someone suggested this! In my head I can maybe picture this working, maybe. But I don't really want uring in my RUclips videos, or all over my work bench.
Tomato Ketchup - This one had me doubting it a lot before I started, but the results were actually pretty surprising and impressive. But the more I dug in to it, I saw that Ketchup has a really high vinegar content, so I would say that's where the rust removal action is coming from. A little weird, but if it works - it works!
Transmission Fluid and Citric Acid: I'm not sure what the combination of the two was supposed to accomplish. Citric Acid is a really good rust remover, but it seems like the transmission fluid was working against it and preventing it from affecting the rust. Would have been better off using the citric acid by itself with water. This method didn't work at all.
Naval Jelly - This one got a lot of suggestions! And I can see why, it worked perfectly. Once I bought it I kinda figured it would work. I mean, it has "rust dissolver" right it the name. Why is it hott pink though? lol
Hand Sanitizer - Okay full disclosure, this wasn't actually suggested. But this is 2020 and I have tons of this stuff in every drawer of my house. So I figured I'd give it a try. Works well against germs, but ineffective against rust.
Potato and Water - Actually only one person suggested this, but it was too weird not to try. I'm not sure how this was actually supposed to work, ut it clearly did not.
Toilet Bowl Cleaner - This one got some noticeable results. There are some pretty harsh chemicals at work so I'm not sure which one is actually attacking the rust. But it seemed to work a little.
Laser Rust Removal - I know this works, I've seen several videos showing these things in action. But at $25,000 I doubt I'll ever get my hands on one.
Beer Salt and Baking Soda - It seemed to work fairly well but it may have been another unnecessary combination. The lemon flavored beer salt contains citric acid. If anything, you would think that the baking soda would neutralize the acid. But it still got pretty decent results, so if all you have is an abundance of beer salt, might as well give it a try.
Oxalic Acid - Another acid that works really well. It left a slight yellow tint on the metal, but a good scrubbing of baking soda and water cleaned it up really nice.
Diesel Fuel - I've used diesel fuel to clean and degrease parts before, but I have never used it as a rust remover. Now I know why. It doesn't remove any rust.
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Best results
-Apple Cider Vinegar
6:11
-Hydrochloric Acid
6:53
-Naval Jelly
8:00
How long was it in the apple cider vinegar?
I was impressed by the ketchup!
Naval Jelly removes everything
I think people are confusing diesel as a rust inhibitor vs a rust remover. In the subsea oil and gas industry, some pieces of equipment would be filled with diesel for storage to prevent rust from forming in bores etc.
Tim , beautifully presented concise test. The acids all did well except citric . There is also toilet bowl cleaner which has hydrochloric aka muriatic acid for $2 that does a decent job. Just like i asked Todd at Project Farm when he did his test, it is important to note which rust treatment does the job best without removing too much metal for intricate shaped parts. Please weigh samples before and after to let viewers know conclusively which method dissolves rust without taking too much metal in the process. GREAT JOB !!!
Haha best part two vid I've ever seen to this day, kept laughing at the laser part. Love how you can film with no audio and still get a loud crack out of me. Actions truely speak louder then words. Thanks for your time, effort and money spent in sharing your knowledge with us. New subscriber. Was wondering why there were no commercials in this vid. Was planning to let it run to help your channel.
Oh and thanks for your analysis. It really helped me to select which option to go for. Take care and God bless
Good to know, slow, and cheap, 🍏 cider vinegar
I just ran an experiment for rust removal. I had a 100-inch rusty bicycle cable that rusted under the plastic coating. I cut the coating off, coiled it up, put it in the pressure cooker with enough vinegar to cover, and pressure cooked it for two hours. The rust was gone and the metal was black. I dried it off and slid an 8-foot length of shrink tube over it and voila a new cable housing. I'm extremely pleased with the result.
The acids work well. Molasses has sulfuric acid but it's dilute... needs more time to work. Vinegar (and apple cider vinegar) are acetic acid solutions. Citric acid and transmission fluid a non starter as the acid doesn't form a solution with it. Naval jelly is predominantly phosphoric acid. You have a repeat from first video as muriatic acid is aka hydrochloric acid. Many rust treatment products are phosphoric acid based with a small addition of chromium and/or zinc sulfate. Nice job.
I’ll stick with apple vinegar.
Thanks for sharing bud
Thank you for taking the time to find out what works. It saves me time and money in finding out myself (possibly the hard way)
A wonderfully comprehensive video with great flow.
Yes the molasses needs time. I have a tub of it sitting in the corner of the garage, and just put whatever in there that needs rust removed. It grows a little mold from time to time, doesn't seem to matter. I scoop it off. I guess I like that it is totally not toxic to anybody, or anybody's pets, and I don't get in much of a hurry any more. After a couple weeks, there is no sign of rust at all.
Excellent videos and thanks for your work. It would be greal if you could do another series of videos of mold removers from fabrics as it's often part of our restoration projects !
Do you use phosphoric acid? The one on the market is called Wink!. Many cautions on the label but I've used for years on all manner of fabric and fiber with pretty good success. Never any damage either. I have not ever used it on auto upholstery or carpeting. No real reason other than fear. Restoration is an interesting and complex procedure. Glad you people exist.
The Apple cider worked as well as some harsh chemicals and it's much safer to use
I think all the vinegar works the same
Yeah distilled white vinegar works just as well, and it's super cheap.
How long did you soak in vinegar? This video didn’t show time soaking like 1st vid.
@@mikellgroff I do not know, maybe someone else knows and he will write to you
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But I left a very rusty (old rust) saw for the night wrapped in a cloth soaked in plain white vinegar. And the saw came out really nice. - I closed with nylon bag that would not stink and dried.
For example a bike chain with a bit of rust I left for two hours, came out fine
@@mikellgroff Says 72 hrs @ start.
thanks for taking the time to make these videos.
Thank you for doing videos like this.
I like both videos but: Can you do a rust removal
video with nice parts that only have spots of
rust on them to see which removes the rust
but does NOT stain or harm the rest of the finish?
like for instance with gage blocks or something
with a ground/polished, or chrome surface?
That's the big issue IMO. Caustic methods will probably attack the underlying metal - so you have to monitor closely and remove the part before any substantial metal removal happens. That's one of the nice things about EvapoRust, WD40 rust remover and similar chelating rust removers. You can leave the part in without monitoring and not worry about the metal being attacked.
Citric acid works well mixed with plain water, and is cheaper than vinegar in the long run. Why anyone would suggest mixing it with an oil is beyond me--that creates a film that keeps the acid away from the rusty surface.
75g Citric acid In Australia costs $2.25AUD, and 2Litres of White Vinegar costs $2.20AUD... I have a hospital water distiller that came with Citric acid, it failed to clean the boiler pot, but the vinegar just covering the floor of the pot with enough water at half an inch boiled for 15 minutes is enough to instantly clean and silver shine the steel base of the pot..
@@TheOzTube Yikes! Why so expensive there? I think I spent less than $5 US on a jar large enough to make 50 gallons. And, since it's a powder, I can mix my own concentration. Added bonus: the house doesn't smell like a cider press.
@@keithschrack where’d you get that? Hopefully not at a regional store because I’m in a similar situation to the Australian
@@kova1577 I bought mine at a Walmart, but the stuff is actually very common in the US. Find it wherever home canning supplies are sold--it's intended for preserving tomatoes and making pickles. Surely this can't be an activity unique to Americans...we learned food preservation from our foreign friends. Meanwhile, I don't dispute that vinegar does the job; it just ends up costing more, and smelling like...vinegar.
What ratio of citric acid and water?
Wow! I'm quite impressed with the results of the apple cider vinegar! Might not smell great, but I'd bet it's a hell of a lot cheaper than most of those other contestants.
Acidic 👍 Same as Ketchup, it works because of the vinegar in it which is acidic.
Hydrochloric and Muriatic Acid are the same thing essentially and both Acids.
Citric acid as well.
The weaker the acidity the longer it takes but less damage risk.
The higher the acidity the faster the reaction but higher risk. Some acids perform better then others as well.
How fo you know the weaknesses if the acids? I'm looking fir something effective & safe fir cast iron skillet
@@larrycleary9987 How'd you go with that? There's a guy on RUclips that based his channel of restoring cast iron stuff. I think he mixed Vinegar and water in a spray gun and would give it a spray then scrub with a scotchbrite pad.
If only the apple cider vinegar could have something added to it for it to stick to vertical surfaces.
A good follow-up would be to take the top performers and do a time and cost analysis...
Awesome helpful tests conducted. Thanks for the videos!!
This video was a great idea. I had no idea that so many products could do the trick. I believe the products that do the complete job and are the safest to use is the way to go. Common sense...
Very interesting results !!!!!!!!!!!! Also thanks for the knowledge too.
Tim, good episode. Back in the day, I always used naval jelly on rusted parts, but if I had none I'd use vinegar. Ketchup has a lot of vinegar in it and with acid from tomatoes I wasn't surprised at the results. Between your two episodes on rust removers, you've covered all I knew of and many I never heard of or tried. You and yours have a safe and happy thanksgiving and cheers from this old retired coot living in Tennessee.💖 👍 😷 🍻 ✌
There's another one that nobody has thought about. Jet fuel. Buddy of mine used to work as an avionics mechanic and he would use it to clean up aircraft gas tanks.
Great clip man! Thanks. I was wandering which among the effective ones is most eco-friendly and cheap? Perhaps you can do part 3:)?
I'm surprised by the ketchup and apple winegar
is so perfect.
Good work 👍
Vinegar is often cited as a good natural cleaner like lemon. Ketchup has a lot of vinegar in it. It was cool to see them work in these experiments though.
Very helpful video Going to try some of these
Hello Mr.trg thank you for testing all does product good job well done I like it thank you Vince
Very cool to see. If be interesting to see cost and time for each item.
Piss : Free.
Excellent trials, congrats.. A couple of comments on the use of oxalic acid :
1) It will work much faster with warm/hot mixture as it will probably also be the case with other acids/products tried in the video. To mention that such hot mixtures produce evaporation imposing open air work.
2) The light green compound produced by the chemical reaction is iron oxalate that progressively adopts a brown colour under sunlight as a result of a photo-chemical reaction. This phenomenom was exploited in the early years of photography.
Apple Cider Vinegar also works as a nice degreaser. It’s a combo of the acid and enzymes that will break down lots of things. Also you can make it hella cheap by the truck load with a cider press and some janky apples. Might be useful for derusting large parts that don’t fit in the blasting cabinet.
So pretty much any thing with acid will do the job. Very interesting! 👍
don't forget the ketchup! :D
I used to soak tools frozen up with rust in ATF, seemed to work fine for me.
Thank you!
thank you for the information
Amazing video! I think the potato trick is meant for running the rust away with the potato.
Hey Tim. Great video series. The acids worked great, as did the vinegar. The naval jelly really surprised me and I would probably pick that as my go to. I would try bleu cheese salad dressing. Not because it would work... but because I ran out. Cheers! ~ John
Vinegar IS an acid - acetic acid. But with all acids, they will start to attack the metal once they've done with the rust, so don't leave them in too long.
Working on my first restoration project at the moment and been using cider vinegar at the recommendation of a friend. Good to know it's one of the more effective choices! :)
Hi, does it matter which brand you use or the concentration of the "ingredients " in the mix
Just bought an old Red plaid ice bucket grill.... really cool, but the grate you cook on is rusty.. excited to try the apple cider vinegar method!, TY
Leave all the samples on the work bench for a week, and then check them again. I ber they all start rusting again - except the naval jelly. Which has phosphoric acid in it. The reason it won't start to rust immediately again, is that the acid leaves a protective layer of phosphate on the metal.
Forget all the other stuff! Phosphoric acid - or really any fluid that contains this acid is the way to go. The stronger the acid, the shorter reaction time You need.
Pretty sure the molasses treatment involves a fermentation process with wild or introduced yeasts and keeping a controlled temperature conducive to growth.
Good video! Thank you
I really enjoyed BOTH videos. It was like a science experiment back in school! I've been looking for something cheap safe and effective to remove rust on cast iron and also on clothing. I bought a bunch of gallons of cheap vinegar to pour over white t-shirts that got rust on them when they were left on wire hangers before being put in storage, (damp storage unfortunately). I guess I'll start soaking them! Looks like a winner to me. I'm not sure about the safety of some of the other chemicals on cotton fabric.
Thank you for your straight forward no nonsense videos. They were Interesting.
So what's next professor? I hope you'll keep sharing videos like this. I'd never be able to take the time or spend the money to find out what the best solution is. Really appreciated! 🤩😁🤔
Tracy, since 4ever i use a solution of water n all of the oxalic acid it'll dissolve to remove blood n rust from shirts.
Great video ! Thanks for trying my suggestion about the Naval Jelly, though I did forget to mention the use of Ospho. I began using it when I got into painting motorcycles. Does a great job of rust removal and prevent re-rusting as well !! And you can paint right over it with no problems.
Did you mix Ospho and Naval jelly? Ratio?
@@brandonr.klrcrazy No, I wouldn't mix the 2 together. The chemical reaction could be bad for your health and possibly the metal you're working on. Best to use them separately.
@@caniswolf3394 I need to read up on how to use Ospho....I need something that I can paint over
I believe "Ospho" is phosphoric acid based!!!
@@brandonr.klrcrazy I've painted over Ospho many times and it turned out beautiful. Now understand, I've only used it on Motorcycles that don't get ridden in the winter, so the body parts aren't exposed to road salt like cars are, so I have no way to give any report on that subject.
in the tattooing industry we've always used naval jelly and vinegar there both great to clean up old iron tattoo machines!
Hi...
Really impressed by the apple cider vinegar results.
Does the brand matter? Or the concentration of the mixture in different brands?
Your vedio presentation is good for comparison of different types of chemical reactions. Very informative for beginners. I know phosphoric acid is also good surface cleaner ( for Fe base)
When i was young on my bikes i used brillo. Worked like a charm. I have a rusted old tub i need to derust
Should definitely compare the white vinegar with the apple sider vinegar. That would be very good to know.
Also wondering if a person could mix them with some sort of paste so that it could be brushed on like the jelly or the ketchup but be stronger than the ketchup
Great video with some amazing results. Try Bilt Hamber Hydrate-80.
I think the petroleum base and acid solution probably would be good to free rust frozen moving parts, like a link in a bicycle chain.
Great video, thanks...
Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video. A microscope view of them would help decide which is better.
Thanks.
Phosphoric Acid is the principal component in acid etch primers. It is easily available as Concrete and Metal cleaner. It is virtually identical to Evapo-Rust and much less expensive. I purchase the C&M Cleaner at my neighborhood Lowe's. The acid removers are far more effective than the old wive's tale removers but have their disadvantages. Leave untreated metal in hydrochloric or citric acid too long and you can return to find all the metal dissolved. Not so with phosphoric acid, which results in a coating of ferric phosphate which as we have just seen is an ideal substrate for subsequent finishing once it has been cleaned and any excess removed.
Great reply! Very educational for me. And I'm the kind of person who usually has to learn lessons like that the hard way. I had allowed a pair of shorts to remain wet for too long ... they developed mold ... a friend said to me, "Vinegar is really good for that." I didn't look up how to do it. I just poured water into a bucket and poured in a bunch of vinegar. Then, unfortunately, I "just let it soak ... and soak". When I pulled the pants out, the mold was gone! ... and the zipper was rendered completely useless. Could no longer zip it up or zip it down. It looked like it had been "chewed on" by the vinegar.
that was excellent and fun to watch. Not too sure if I'm going to rush out and get some apple cider for drinks....
Whole video: Yaaaaaay!!
For the weird versions I would use the cheapest that gets the job done, which is probably white cleaning vinegar which is lower ph than normal white vinegar.
Very interesting,thanks. It seems that you forgot the phosphoric acid, yet it is a well known rust remover.
Naval jelly active ingredient
my first time here... Liked the vinegar look.I use Rustmort since 1978 (autobody). I sandblast heavier metals,like your springs, bolts etc then soak in bath w/rustmort or even the apple cider vinegar might work as well. Always concerned of reaching the roots of rust that one cant see after sandblasting,hoping the rustmort, or vinegar will soak into those tiny leading roots of rust. Might want to look into Rustmort . It has been available only from autobody shops,I think it still is . Good Job BTW whats the diff subscribing personalized vs all ?
Iron Out works well but has strong sulfur smell. Sulfamic acid (not to be confused with sulfuric acid), is effective also.
Love love love it👍
Mr. Tim, my bike chain has rust would u advise for me to use the apple cider vinegar?
Great asmr
Great another video showing me that I didn't buy all the vinegar for nothing. Right time to remove the rust from my antique tools.
So of I needed to use a large amount on a vertical area I would need to use the naval jelly or a paste of say vinegar and baking soda??
The ketchup was very surprising!
it contains vinegar (acetic acid) so it's not at all surprising.
try lemon juice. I live in Canada and it sold in 945 ml. bottles in Costco or Superstore. It works great for my small applications. Thank you for the video.
I would you were able to try brake fluid. As it is used in automotive industry for the brake systems, keeps all components pretty clean and rust free. There are different DOT number values , but It's been used for 9 forevers in vehicles to stop em. Thank you sir for these attemps of comparison.
Any of these effective and safe for cast iron skillet?
Would any vinegar work, especially the 30% industrial strength?
Apple cider vinegar was the real MVP here, it's food safe, relatively cheap, and easy to get. I don't have any suggestions, but next time it might be nice to see one soaked in plain water as a control! Sort of like you noted with kerosene, just soaking might have been what did it.
Add salt to the mix to kick it up
I have used naval jelly on some very rusty cast iron crockery. It worked very well, but you have to season or seal the pan soon after because the surface is totally stripped. I am amazed cider vinegar worked so well. I wonder what it does to your insides?
calms gallstone pain mixed with some baking soda!
I loved your comparisons of everyday items you probably already have at home to remove rust from small pieces. However, you didn’t show how to use on large items or items you can’t take apart. I have lawn art figures that have rusted and not sure how to tackle them. Any suggestions are welcome 😊
Hydrochloric acid and muriatic acid (which was in part one) is the same thing (HCl)!
Muriatic acid is HCl that has been standardized to be 31.45% HCl by weight. Depending on how you source your HCl the concentration can vary greatly. The active ingredient in most toilet bowl cleaners is also HCl, unless it is one of the bleach based cleaners. HCl and bleach aren't friends.
Do you have to use a glass container or will plastic do?
Are these methods safe for use on rusted electrical parts?
I was surprised by the apple cider vinegar and the ketchup....wow!
Wow some of these are surprising. Like the ketchup, and some even made the star shape more rusty. lol
Can you try soaking rust on baking soda. after few hrs soak it with vinegar?
Thank You so much I am going to derust the inside my bumpers on the inside of inside my truck and had NO idea what to do I checked the auto part stores big money for there stuff in little bottles and my truck is a 95 ford xl with massive bumpers on front and back, I was going to mix up a batch and brush it on, Any Ideas how long it should set? I wired brushed it down good, I watched both your videos they were great.
if they chrome bumpers ....tin foil and soapy water
Check weights of each also also try round pipe for acurate and total decays in curve and straight surface
Allready done good job very informative videos.
Also try tamarind ripe and unripe powder also vitamin C tab pure citrus solutions and their cider vinegar etc.
Great vid. What is best way to remove old rusty bolts and screws ?
Depends on who responds or where you look.
There are literally hundreds of videos on removing frozen bolts, etc. here on RUclips.
Some of the test pieces started with clean surfaces. Navel Jelly test was bright and clean before starting. So, what up with that?
Great video. Try Iron Out. Would love to see that!
What the hell is beer salt?!
Lime or lemon flavored salt.
The ketchup is amazing
I’d say the Cider Vinegar is best option for price point... the Naval Jelly definitely has its applications tho, maybe make a jelly with ketchup and cider vinegar mixed...
I know that these videos are a liitle old, but maybe if you are going to do one mort part of rust removers test - interesting what results would show something like CarPro Iron X which is used to remove iron parts from car body and rims also some wheels cleaners with acid or also with iron removers (bleeding ones). Thanks!
I noticed that you let them suck for 72 hours and the hydraulic acid and the Lucas seem to do the best I'm wondering did they need to soak for 72 hours or they have done it after 1 hour
Greetings from the Ohio Porters. I have an 18 foot trailer that has a rusted roof. I’m thinking that I shall try the Apple vinegar on it, but my other concern is how it may affect the sides and the finish on those sides. How long do you think I would need to give it to work? I thought about sandblasting, but the top would be a big area to work on and maybe quite messy. Any thoughts? It would be a good video, too. Thanks for doing this video. It’s gotten me thinking a bit more about it. 🤩
How would you keep the apple vinegar on the roof long enough to work? I think he let that soak for about 24 hours. I'd check, but I'm afraid I'd lose this comment. Bright side, any AV that got on the sides of your trailer can be immediately washed off and do no damage. If you try/have tried this, I'd like to hear how it went.
Could the potato and water idea have been a kind of simplistic electrolysis method? Like when we ran a clock off a potato in 5th grade?
Excelente segunda parte sobre ¿Qué removedor de óxido es mejor? , para mi el acido clorhidrico, naval jelly y el oxalic acid son los que tienen mejor respuesta al momento de quitar el oxido,mis respetos y saludos amigo.
I agree
Wow!, I think ketchup was the great winner of this edition!, not the cleanest, but the biggest surprise for me.
Ok the ketchup one impressed me
Very interesting. Apple cider kicked it outta the park...... I'm thinking about being able to afford one for large items..... Sandblaster wants too much money to do all I want to do. . I'll have to figure out which is best for huge stationary items, to, like vehicles. Read that rust converter and inhibitor was not a good way to go which is why I came to RUclips today and ran into your videos.... I'm no pro. Trying to restore a few things, that's all.
Try cleaning vinegar. It's 7% acidic vs 5% for cooking. Then there's 30% vinegar at home depot, give that a try or industrial hydrogen peroxide if you can get it. Phosphoric Acid is my go to. Easy to find in hardware stores and is the main ingredient in Naval Jelly.
Where do you get industrial hydrogen peroxide? Would you say it's better/cheaper than navel jelly?
@@darthbiskwiq5718 Chemical supplier has 30% hydrogen peroxide you can dilute as necessary
Uric acid is still an acid, just weak. Better than water, if that's all you have in a state of desperation. 😆
Tomato based products are also actually pretty acidic.
Beer salt isn't weird, just a waste of good beer salt! (That stuff has gotten expensive and harder to find).
Toothpaste,peroxide,Dawn dish soap and water,Pine sol,Mr.Clean,mouth wash,mustard
I would go with the apple cider vinegar, it's cheap, you get a lot of it, you can get it anywhere and it works great 👍🏆.
Sou brasileira e aqui não existe videos tão eficientes como neste país de primeiro mundo.