The machine is cool but the way you use it is not! I Recently got mine fromeBay. The fumes produced by evaporating rust and paint are very toxic, I wear a mask and I use a fan to blow the fumes away from me. I would never do this in an enclosed indoor environment without a fume extractor, not worth my lungs' health.
My Brother, who is a fine jeweler, has a very sophisticated and high tech laser welder. The shipping requirements are unreal. Changed his business model and made all sorts of new things possible and lots of old things easier. Have fun!
@@Enonymouse_they make larger and more powerful versions but if it's that bad you're most likely gonna have to do some welding too to get it in exceptable condition
My Mom works at Wright Patterson AFB for Alion Science & Technology, working with lasers used in a similar fashion. She says one particularly nasty particle, hexavalent chromium, has been shown to cause cancer in addition to causing several immediate side effects such as skin sores and irritation of the eyes, nose, and mouth after minimal exposure without a respirator and that xposure to laser fumes is a serious hazard and could lead to serious illness or death.
That's fantastic. It's like a Si Fi Ray gun come true. I'm enjoying watching you play. Your smile says it all. It takes all the hard work out of de-rusting preparation. A real-time saver......
I would say you definitely need a fume extractor to remove all that smoke and one stong enough to help pull the dust and debris away from the lenses of the laser. Wow, how fast technology has advanced. As a kid that was born in the early 50's that is definitely Buck Rogers stuff.
I've watched a lot of these laser cleaner demo videos, and this is by far the best I've seen. Others always seem to be someone rushing through, trying to make it look super fast, but never cleaning anything thoroughly. This vid shows the exact type of stuff I'd want to use it for.
The problem is, unless you are using it commercially and in high volume, it's too expensive. Do your coworkers need to wear glasses too? is it like welding where you can't look at it.
Brent, one of the guys I follow on RUclips,Styropyro , messes with all kinds of lasers. He is very smart, and you really need super great eye protection, he made a cannon out of one of those he was shooting things 200-250 meters away with it. He was wearing a full welding type helmet with it! Be careful!!!
@@Mrshotshell Not only the beam intensity but the bream wavelength. Different laser wavelengths need different types of lenses. Example: A CO2 laser puts out 9000 to 10500 nm wavelength and clear acrylic will block it. Fiber lasers, such as this one, will be 780 to 2200 nm wavelength and will pass through acrylic completely (that's why you can't cut acrylic with a fiber laser) Get good eye protection for the wavelength of your laser, not the cheap Chinese glasses they sent with the machine. They're not cheap but.. how much would you value your vision at?
@@jackflash6377 As an optometrist (and a welder, machinist, home foundry, fixer of old junque) you are spot on the money. And it doesn't have to be a direct strike. If you hit something that is reflective, the reflected beam still carries enough energy to burn the shit out of your retina. The popping sound you might hear is your retina boiling. Wherever the beam hits, that part of the retina is gone forever and never grows back. Neurons are fussy that way. And photorecepters are just specialized neurons. And after the initial injury, it gets worse. The burn causes inflammation and swelling which can lead to further damage. Do it right or don't do it at all. OK, I will get off the safety soapbox. Is that thing 7 flavors of awesome and cool or what??? Please carry on with another great episode.
I have a 50W 1064nm fiber laser which is capable to derust and clean metals too. To avoid surface marks, I crank down the output power to 20% up to 40% depending on the material, so 10W to 20W. In my experience, it is better to choose the minimum power which vaporizes the dirt but not the underlying metal surface and go slowly. This way you can pass even multiple times on the same spot without worries. When all the oxydation is gone, the laser makes no noise at all. If the metal is clean and the laser makes noise, you are engraving into the surface.
But if you use 20 to 40% Power of 50W, 10 to 20W, it takes a long time. You can use a higher rate of power with out of focus to decrease the time for cleaning
We're looking into getting the ZAC 3000 watt Fibre Laser Welder from Amazon (UK), that'll cost a hefty £14,295 and might take a few years to recover from the initial expense. 🤔 But one cannot deny it's a bloody good reason to wanna go back to work just to play with it every day! 😉
I loved the actual demo being almost the full video, all others I have seen is a lot of talking,and explaining without much footage of the laser being used. GREAT JOB.
Exactly what i need to clean the engine in the car! Looks dangerous but 5 years from now, every shop will own one and the size will shrink to a standart MIG welder box. Damn, i knew i was born to early! Thanks for this video and can't wait to see the welding part.
He will likely regret not wearing a respirator... Particulate iron oxide will take years to kill him, but it will start working from day 1 of ingestion. The DOD learned that the hard way in the early days at Aberdeen Proving Grounds. Now they pay out some $20,000,000,000 in medical claims of former workers.
Its the most awsome tool ive ever seen.its also the cleanest cleaner ive done all types of blasting jetting thats the best hardly no mess .maybe just a small airline attached to blow stuff away from your lens brilliant.what a fantastic tool for your workshop .no more high pressure hoses blasting debris everywhere.doesnt even seem to blow holes in your thin panelling.way to go.
Nice machine, and really nice shop. A couple of observations and a suggestion. When you were cleaning the piston, you overshot and burned the finish off the welding table. When you were cleaning the tire rim, you shot thru the holes a couple of times. When you cleaned the door jam on the truck, you checked the temperature with your hand while your finger was on the button and the tool was pointed in the same general direction. My suggestion is that you treat the cutter/cleaning head like a pistol. Finger on the frame until ready to fire, be conscious of what is down range from the target.
I was a corrosion control specialist in the Air Force and later a industrial painter in a small steel fab shop. Just the sound of that thing sort of freaks me out. It looks like it worked good on rust and paint. Thanks for the video. I think it will be just fine for a small shop. It does not look like it makes a lot of dust compared to grinding or blasting.
LOL The rust goes somewhere when it's hit with a laser. I was an indoor air quality tech and the first thing I thought was about how nanometer small the ionized particulate matter is floating in the air now, and ready to get into the deepest regions of your lungs and give you a case of rust-bestosis or cancer a few years down the road. I can almost guarantee you that this is something you don't want to be using in a closed environment without exhaust fans or a canister respirator. You don't see the dust, because the particles are way too small to see now....which makes it less safe to breathe, not more.
Just because I do not see it does mean that it is not their. Thanks, what a good response. All that sanding of paint and rust for years is probably in my lungs. @@ReptileRescue
@@ReptileRescue I used to do welding and coating Inspection for the Oil and Gas industry, it was alarming just how many workers ignored the dust mask requirements, I once saw a guy who had been applying a product called ,'glasscoat', to a large pile, at the end of his shift the coating he had inhaled was running out of his nostrils.
@@AnthonyTobyEllenor-pi4jq Yep. The powder coater I use to go to wore a paper dust mask. He'd take it off when we'd come to pickup/drop off. Two big streaks of powder on his face going right into his nose. His lungs are going to be perfectly preserved long after he's gone. LOL!
Got mine fromebay and it is a time saver and fun to use. However, the fumes this machines makes when evaporating rust and paint are very toxic. I work outside and I wear a respirator and I have a fan to blow the nasty fumes away from me. I might use this indoors when I get a fume extractor.
Wow Brent, that machine is flipping amazing. Thank you for showing us. I definitely would like to see more of this machine and what it's capable of. Have fun and be careful. 👍👍👍
That was a SUPER video - I have sent to several people who didnt know the technology existed, and could make great use of it. Nice work - a REAL use case!!!!!
In my younger days when I lived in Nova Scotia, my father and I ran a small autobody repair shop. In was in the rust belt, and rust repairs were an everyday task. I used to see alot of rist scabs on vehicles. I used to sandblast and repair them and also send out the wheels to be sandblasted so that they could be repainted. A unit such as this would have been amazing. Thank you for the video!
One thing that I like a lot is the fact that you're not sending dirt/dust all over your shop and onto items that you've been working on. Very good and another tool to put to good use. Later
My company that I work for has been looking into these lasers to replace sandblasting on some of our parts. I think this video will be very informative for our engineers. Very impressive.
From what I understand you must wear special goggles when using laser equipment. If you don't it will cause permanent eye damage. So be careful Brent. Can't wait to see you weld some sheet metal.
You are 💯 correct. I spent over 20 years working with industrial lasers as both a tech rebuilding and doing alignment work and as an engineer working on design applications. That laser would blind someone at up to 2 miles away in a straight line. 500 watts was a big industrial laser just 10 years ago for the record. Safety is no joking matter with these lasers.
@@DanA-nl5uo My Mom has worked at Aberdeen Proving Grounds and Alion Science & Technology for the DOD, working with lasers in defense weapons. She said this guy and his wife could die from the particulate matter of even one use. I hope 20 years from now this doesn't come back to haunt them...
Yup because the laser itself is invisible, the red laser is just so you can aim it. You have to get the right wavelength though or the glasses are useless.
Great purchase, I want one. Saying that I would build a smallish open face booth with high flow external exhaust. Everything burnt will hurt the lungs. So be careful. Pablo seems very concerned. Have fun and thanks for sharing all the videos. Top 3% of vehicle channels. Stay cool…jb…
Dennis Collins of Coffee Walk just hired a guy to bring in a similar machine to cleanup a Jeep chassis, and yours looks like it works twice as good as the one in that video. That thing's going to save a shitload of time. Cheers!😮
@michaelbristol6467 - One site I found, stylecnc, lists ~$5-9k for the 3 in 1 welder, cutter, cleaner unit in 1000W, 1500W, and 3KW continuous wave lasers. Interestingly affordable for such a capable piece of equipment... Would be great for where one needs to clean for additional processes. There should be ventilation/smoke capture and exhaust systems used when running these, I think, especially if removing paints, sealants, and other materials... but zinc it's self, from galvanized items, is a major hazard.
@@michaelbristol6467 I "adjusted" one of these for someone a couple of months ago. It has an over voltage limit in it that's set for 220V which was tripping here where his incoming service was running at 246V (the limit was set at 245, so it would intermittently trip as the voltage would go up a little). He said it was a little over 9k
COULD USE TO RESTORE MOWER DECKS TO! Endless usabilities. Wow just thought about if you had stock in a lathe. Could clean the rust off first then start the lathing process. This is a great tool and video! Thanks for clueing us in out here! Plus dust levels appears to be way down verses sanding.
After *watching your video* on the Amazon-bought laser welder/cleaner cutter, I'm compelled to express how thoroughly impressed I am with the depth and clarity of your review. Your excitement from unboxing to the first use was infectious, and it really set the tone for an engaging exploration of this sophisticated tool. The way you broke down the capabilities of the laser unit, from welding to rust cleaning and cutting, made the technology feel approachable, despite its complexity. Your demonstrations were particularly enlightening, offering a clear view of the machine's effectiveness and the practical applications it holds for DIY enthusiasts like myself. The emphasis on safety precautions and the learning curve was greatly appreciated-it's a vital reminder of the respect such powerful tools command. What stood out to me was the balance in your review. You didn't shy away from discussing the challenges, such as the handling nuances and the maintenance of consumables. This honesty adds so much value, providing a realistic expectation for potential users. I'm left feeling excited about the possibilities this tool presents for my own projects, and I'm grateful for the insights you've shared. Your satisfaction with the tool, despite its cost and initial hurdles, speaks volumes about its potential impact. Thanks for such a comprehensive and enlightening review. Your work not only showcases the capabilities of modern DIY tools but also guides those of us keen on integrating such technology into our work. Keep up the fantastic content!
Although the items cleaned can rust up quickly you may find that after cleaning with the laser will not rust up as fast since the laser produces a surface that slightly inhibits rust compared to just using a chemical cleaner or other means of rust removal , the beam being a certain wavelength contributes to this .
Very Cool toy. We have a laser welder at work ( the shop guys use it) and it does some beautiful welds, we use it on Stainless and it reduces the cleanup time. We had to put up partitions and the have to use a mask while using it, while you can't see it aparently the flash will blind you (it's so much worse that a mig or stick arc)
One way to avoid burning those Rouds glass protection is to have a small 1/4 " hose blowing air the same direction of the laser right on the tip of the nozle.
Thank you for your preview... I think by just basic common knowledge on lasers, it's imperative that focal, pass-through and filter lenses are maintained clean and dust free. This said, a fan to deflect flying debris from getting on to the gun should really help on the lifespan of these pass through lenses. Also from what I've seen, a combination of fans and extractors/air handlers should be a priority. The fumes from several metal finishes and materials can be harmful to breath in. This tool obviously has its positives but caution should always be implemented. Finding out what materials are not affected by the laser, should be used as a backdrop, just to make sure you don't zap anything you didn't intend to strip.
The possibilities of bringing home a barn or field find rusted pile and having the body and entire underside stripped and ready for primer and body work all in the same day without any harsh chemicals,100s of dollars worth of media,a huge compressor,etc. and all done by a single person.. Talk about money and labor costs savings plus it has to be better for the environment as there's no chemicals,or wastes other than rust dust,paint dust..
The laser cleaner video we all wanted, simply tested on everything imaginable, thanks for this! Solid piece of kit, and prices are coming down, when it's down to 2-3 grand I might splurge.
@@briansmyla8696When prices go up due to demand, it means more manufacturers will enter the market, which eventually will lead to prices going down due to competition. There's definitely demand for these kinds of devices when the price is reasonable. I might be totally wrong, but I don't think there's any particular ill-advised patent in effect that would make it impossible for competition to appear.
Man idk but I was nervous when you used it near that spray can and was praying it didn’t hit the can and explode. For a metal worker, it seems like a solid buy that will save you countless hours of manually removing that rust. Now I would like to use that on the metal parts of my jeep that have rusted.
im jealous. you got this after rebuilding your shop. most of us can only dream of having the shop, tools, and personal junk yard that you have. thanks for the videos. i love your build style and your attitude. where did/do you work?
My buddy and I were heading out to Reynolds Ponds a couple weeks back and I seen your truck heading the other way toward Winnipeg. I may or may not have overreacted, and for a minute my friend thought I was crazy. But then I got to show him your videos while we were ice fishing. Good times
Good old reynolds ponds, the trash dump mb lol. That use to be such a nice place, but dead beats destroyed it. There are major talks of shutting it down to local access as now there are even broken glass in that big lake, even around that little island we’re finding broken glass. It’s become a major hazard and polluted so bad. Things have gotten worse over the last few years as everyone posts the location of that place all over social media, brings in a lot of people that don’t care about our nice getaway and end up destroying it. There’s literally a 50/50 chance you end up getting a flat tire just by driving in. The roads haven’t been maintained in years and the people I’ve talked to said there is zero plans to maintain them any further. It’s phase one of the plan to shut it all down to public access. So sad what people did to that place, I can’t even go there anymore to do long range target shooting. I’m one of those guys that even picks up my 22lr brass, I leave nothing behind except tire tracks. Now we gotta drive like 3hrs 1 way just to shoot 1000+ yards, found an awesome spot that nobody knows about but it’s an all day event with over 6hrs of total driving from wpg.
Hi Mate don't put yourself down that was a great vid I think it's the second 1 I've found that isn't company bull or "I was sent this for free but I'll give my honest opinion"(yer whatever) this was just someone who bought one having a good go of it and saying what they think and informative they
Mill scale is predominantly Magnetite, the shading is a change in chemical makeup of the surface, that's why suggest using a ferrous tannate conversion, just using paint will not give a durable finish, most don't know colour finish is permeable to water, the pre-treatment is what give corrosion resistance, miss it out and you get filiform corrosion, creeps under the colour finish.
That would be really helpful for old rims with many layers of old paint on them. Especially with what the local sandblaster guy charges when he knows how long it would take to do with paint stripper and a flap wheel or whatever.
Looks great for cleaning up metal like a magic wand! I can't wait for you to test the laser welder and see if it can weld like they show in the videos, like using seam sealer from a gun. I've never seen any videos of them being used on thin metal so It would be good to see some tests on body work.
use caution around vaporized zinc plating... so unbelievably cool, however. Approach it like painting with a good Binks gun, perfectly parallel to the surface perhaps? We work with laser engravers and a fair number of large format 15kw and 20kw Bystronic cutting laser tables. Dust collection is everything! those vaporized particles go EVERYWHERE.... thank you for sharing this!! This is amazing!
you might be able to rig up an air blower and fix the "soot" issue. I use my fiber laser similarly to get rid of residue left behind which is usually small metal/carbon deposits
That thing is gonna change the game! You could make money just by having someone sit there and clean car parts all day long. You have a real steady hand, but I guess that's something you need when you do what you do. I would say turn the wattage up when working with large, thick heavy pieces, and stuff that's a little more rusted and caked on than others, like that transmission. You made it look really fun and cool, and now I want one. Man that thing is going to save you so much time, and make you so much money! I love how you did the manly thing, and just threw the instructions away.😄
I'm agreeing with the idea of either a good shop vac hose right next to the gun tip, to try and catch particles/fumes (and vent outside) or compressed air blowing across the tip. Either one to protect your lenses.
we have a different one at our shop, hook it up to compressed air where the gas gets hooked up for welding, with a low psi setting, and it helps keep the junk out of the tip. saving the lenses.
11k is actually a really decent price because the lowest price i could find was 23k and that was only 6 months ago. Sure media blasting is faster and dustless blasting is cleaner but the mess is just not worth it. Not needing a dedicated blasting booth and not introducing water to fresh bare steel is worth the price alone. Not needing a huge compressor makes this thing quite nice too.
Damn thats cool! I have no need for one, I have no reason for one... but OH GOD DO I WANT ONE! It looks like adding an "air assist" / "Air curtain" nozzle on the tip just to help keep anything from getting on the lens. Even something low like 5psi just to blow anything flying toward the lens away.
This looks a lot faster than sandblasting and I've been thinking the whole video I bet you'd want to sand it before paint and at the end you mentioned it. It's still WAY less prepwork and sanding than otherwise. I'm gonna consider one of these machines in the future.
Thats the coolest thing I have to get my self something just like that save so much time in prep work it would let you send more real time on details instead of rust removal that eats up so much time
The comments about the dangers of hexavalent chromium as a by product of the vaporization process is correct. The vapors can however be safely removed with a hepa filter ventilation system.
Also protect your eyes had a friend who started working with LED diodes and 6 months latter had lost 50-60% of his vision I could see that happening here real fast, and remember the problem with wielding galvanized u can get to die from the fume inhalation from that within 36 hours of breathing that stuff in
Just a tip for using that thing if you can keep your beam at a 45° angle pointed away from you and work your way backwards you'll save on those consumable lenses.
Half my comment was deleted when uploading I was biging you up big time lol but in a nut shell keep up the good work I've subscribed to see a follow up on the laser when you have used it in the real world for a bit I respect your opinion. showing the love from across the pond in Liverpool England
Just a suggestion, if you want to save the protective lens longer you may want to be more on an angle when removing rust etc. When your face on the bounce back is more likely to bounce back towards your lens.
I bet if you research enough you could probably make your own protective lenses . Good to see the shop full and productive . I’ve been away all winter so I have some catching up to do .
You will want to setup some type of fume extraction. You are right, it is vaporizing material, into very small particles. Think of a plasma table, same fumes and matter in the air. To help protect the lense, you could setup an air nozzle like you'd find on a plasma cutter as well, you wouldn't need much pressure, just a few psi down a 1/4" line. I run air assist on my Co2 laser on low pressure when engraving to keep smoke and debris away. Does it have any settings to adjust the frequency of the laser? That will adjusy how many times the laser pulses as it is never "always on", this can drastically alter how it interacts with various coatings, corrosions, and surfaces.
That’s what I always wanted to see, someone that actually used it demo it for us ! Thank you !
It's cool, but the fumes are highly toxic. The bigger devices came with a extractor/vacuum cleaner. So @Brent wear a mask!
Chiasson Smoke has one too, and he's featured it a few times on his channel
Exactly. He's not cutting out some of the "what about this?" scenes.
Saw this first on Ed China's channel quite some time ago. They did a Land Rover frame with it. Different manufacture but same thing.
The machine is cool but the way you use it is not! I Recently got mine fromeBay. The fumes produced by evaporating rust and paint are very toxic, I wear a mask and I use a fan to blow the fumes away from me. I would never do this in an enclosed indoor environment without a fume extractor, not worth my lungs' health.
My Brother, who is a fine jeweler, has a very sophisticated and high tech laser welder. The shipping requirements are unreal. Changed his business model and made all sorts of new things possible and lots of old things easier. Have fun!
this one $5.54 delivery
cleaning rust is no longer a chore it's a blast
Some removal processes will still require media blasting
@@Enonymouse_they make larger and more powerful versions but if it's that bad you're most likely gonna have to do some welding too to get it in exceptable condition
My Mom works at Wright Patterson AFB for Alion Science & Technology, working with lasers used in a similar fashion. She says one particularly nasty particle, hexavalent chromium, has been shown to cause cancer in addition to causing several immediate side effects such as skin sores and irritation of the eyes, nose, and mouth after minimal exposure without a respirator and that xposure to laser fumes is a serious hazard and could lead to serious illness or death.
he really needs a laminar flow hood with carbon filters - they are easy to build but probably a necessity - item is now discontinued on amazon
This needs to be at the top
Top comment.
Absolutely what I was thinking, and I'm an actual medical doctor.
Erin Brockovich dude.
That's fantastic. It's like a Si Fi Ray gun come true. I'm enjoying watching you play. Your smile says it all. It takes all the hard work out of de-rusting preparation. A real-time saver......
I would say you definitely need a fume extractor to remove all that smoke and one stong enough to help pull the dust and debris away from the lenses of the laser. Wow, how fast technology has advanced. As a kid that was born in the early 50's that is definitely Buck Rogers stuff.
Yup!
Science fiction when we were kids is everyday sh/t today!
I've watched a lot of these laser cleaner demo videos, and this is by far the best I've seen. Others always seem to be someone rushing through, trying to make it look super fast, but never cleaning anything thoroughly. This vid shows the exact type of stuff I'd want to use it for.
Exactly.
The problem is, unless you are using it commercially and in high volume, it's too expensive. Do your coworkers need to wear glasses too? is it like welding where you can't look at it.
@@christo930 You have the option of buying directly from a laser equipment supplier, which will save you a lot of money.😃😃
@@bingyanlaser It's eleven thousand Dollars. WAY too rich for me.
Brent, one of the guys I follow on RUclips,Styropyro , messes with all kinds of lasers. He is very smart, and you really need super great eye protection, he made a cannon out of one of those he was shooting things 200-250 meters away with it. He was wearing a full welding type helmet with it! Be careful!!!
And not just a normal welding helmet, a laser welding helmet designed to deal with the beam intensity (edit: and wavelength) of a laser
@@Mrshotshell Not only the beam intensity but the bream wavelength. Different laser wavelengths need different types of lenses.
Example: A CO2 laser puts out 9000 to 10500 nm wavelength and clear acrylic will block it. Fiber lasers, such as this one, will be 780 to 2200 nm wavelength and will pass through acrylic completely (that's why you can't cut acrylic with a fiber laser)
Get good eye protection for the wavelength of your laser, not the cheap Chinese glasses they sent with the machine.
They're not cheap but.. how much would you value your vision at?
@@jackflash6377 As an optometrist (and a welder, machinist, home foundry, fixer of old junque) you are spot on the money.
And it doesn't have to be a direct strike. If you hit something that is reflective, the reflected beam still carries enough energy to burn the shit out of your retina. The popping sound you might hear is your retina boiling. Wherever the beam hits, that part of the retina is gone forever and never grows back. Neurons are fussy that way. And photorecepters are just specialized neurons. And after the initial injury, it gets worse. The burn causes inflammation and swelling which can lead to further damage.
Do it right or don't do it at all. OK, I will get off the safety soapbox.
Is that thing 7 flavors of awesome and cool or what???
Please carry on with another great episode.
I just made a similar comment about the proper eye protection. I'm glad I'm not the only one that mentioned it. I hope he takes our advice.
And please think about the dog walking around. Protect your eyes but protect the dogs too.
I have a 50W 1064nm fiber laser which is capable to derust and clean metals too. To avoid surface marks, I crank down the output power to 20% up to 40% depending on the material, so 10W to 20W. In my experience, it is better to choose the minimum power which vaporizes the dirt but not the underlying metal surface and go slowly. This way you can pass even multiple times on the same spot without worries. When all the oxydation is gone, the laser makes no noise at all. If the metal is clean and the laser makes noise, you are engraving into the surface.
Good info. Thanks (for me)
Simply put.
How much does it cost? Thanks
@32:04 10 to 20 watts? He's using 500 watts 😂 I'm sure your both right
But if you use 20 to 40% Power of 50W, 10 to 20W, it takes a long time. You can use a higher rate of power with out of focus to decrease the time for cleaning
@@Didisixty Good point! I'll try! Thank you!
We're looking into getting the ZAC 3000 watt Fibre Laser Welder from Amazon (UK), that'll cost a hefty £14,295 and might take a few years to recover from the initial expense. 🤔
But one cannot deny it's a bloody good reason to wanna go back to work just to play with it every day! 😉
Did you get it
I loved the actual demo being almost the full video, all others I have seen is a lot of talking,and explaining without much footage of the laser being used. GREAT JOB.
Exactly what i need to clean the engine in the car! Looks dangerous but 5 years from now, every shop will own one and the size will shrink to a standart MIG welder box. Damn, i knew i was born to early! Thanks for this video and can't wait to see the welding part.
Brent is literally going round the workshop and blasting everything in sight 😂😂😂. Love it!
He will likely regret not wearing a respirator... Particulate iron oxide will take years to kill him, but it will start working from day 1 of ingestion. The DOD learned that the hard way in the early days at Aberdeen Proving Grounds. Now they pay out some $20,000,000,000 in medical claims of former workers.
You know we’d all be doing the same thing!
He's using it like a Lightsaber!
@@Durham.Reality There's always one of these guys on every video lol
You could say it's light work.
Its the most awsome tool ive ever seen.its also the cleanest cleaner ive done all types of blasting jetting thats the best hardly no mess .maybe just a small airline attached to blow stuff away from your lens brilliant.what a fantastic tool for your workshop .no more high pressure hoses blasting debris everywhere.doesnt even seem to blow holes in your thin panelling.way to go.
Nice machine, and really nice shop. A couple of observations and a suggestion. When you were cleaning the piston, you overshot and burned the finish off the welding table. When you were cleaning the tire rim, you shot thru the holes a couple of times. When you cleaned the door jam on the truck, you checked the temperature with your hand while your finger was on the button and the tool was pointed in the same general direction. My suggestion is that you treat the cutter/cleaning head like a pistol. Finger on the frame until ready to fire, be conscious of what is down range from the target.
Very import safety tip here.
Having the flammable can of Kroil within the accidental misfire range probably wasn't the best idea, either
That electric angle grinder & battery on the welding/cleaning table directly behind the item being cleaned was making me sweat.
Real Thank you for those observations, it is really helpful for any operator!
Best thing is no sand mess that blows into your paint. Good investment! 👍
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But can vapors formed condense?
I was a corrosion control specialist in the Air Force and later a industrial painter in a small steel fab shop. Just the sound of that thing sort of freaks me out. It looks like it worked good on rust and paint. Thanks for the video. I think it will be just fine for a small shop. It does not look like it makes a lot of dust compared to grinding or blasting.
LOL The rust goes somewhere when it's hit with a laser. I was an indoor air quality tech and the first thing I thought was about how nanometer small the ionized particulate matter is floating in the air now, and ready to get into the deepest regions of your lungs and give you a case of rust-bestosis or cancer a few years down the road. I can almost guarantee you that this is something you don't want to be using in a closed environment without exhaust fans or a canister respirator. You don't see the dust, because the particles are way too small to see now....which makes it less safe to breathe, not more.
Just because I do not see it does mean that it is not their. Thanks, what a good response. All that sanding of paint and rust for years is probably in my lungs. @@ReptileRescue
@@ReptileRescue I used to do welding and coating Inspection for the Oil and Gas industry, it was alarming just how many workers ignored the dust mask requirements, I once saw a guy who had been applying a product called ,'glasscoat', to a large pile, at the end of his shift the coating he had inhaled was running out of his nostrils.
@@AnthonyTobyEllenor-pi4jq Yep. The powder coater I use to go to wore a paper dust mask. He'd take it off when we'd come to pickup/drop off. Two big streaks of powder on his face going right into his nose. His lungs are going to be perfectly preserved long after he's gone. LOL!
Got mine fromebay and it is a time saver and fun to use. However, the fumes this machines makes when evaporating rust and paint are very toxic. I work outside and I wear a respirator and I have a fan to blow the nasty fumes away from me. I might use this indoors when I get a fume extractor.
Wow Brent, that machine is flipping amazing. Thank you for showing us. I definitely would like to see more of this machine and what it's capable of. Have fun and be careful. 👍👍👍
That was a SUPER video - I have sent to several people who didnt know the technology existed, and could make great use of it. Nice work - a REAL use case!!!!!
In my younger days when I lived in Nova Scotia, my father and I ran a small autobody repair shop. In was in the rust belt, and rust repairs were an everyday task. I used to see alot of rist scabs on vehicles. I used to sandblast and repair them and also send out the wheels to be sandblasted so that they could be repainted. A unit such as this would have been amazing. Thank you for the video!
Nice to see the HALFASS lic plate on display. Perfect 👍
As much rusty materials that you work on a regular basis this is a sound investment.
The force is strong with this one. Great demo. Valuable tool for your shop.
One thing that I like a lot is the fact that you're not sending dirt/dust all over your shop and onto items that you've been working on. Very good and another tool to put to good use. Later
Finally! A rust busting ray gun!
That can weld!!! This is too cool.
Link already says it's "currently unavailable"... no worries. Glad to see one of these in the real world. I dig it
If you are out of us/CA (or you appear to be for them) it will show that way.
@@Vein1986 well God damn. I guess it does suck to live in California sometimes. Regardless, finally a real world video. Not some tik Tok b.s.
@@Vein1986 - I'm a Canuckistan, and I'm getting n/a as well!
Guess the ATF needs to get involved even though it’s not ballistic 😮
They're available on Ebay!
That shows up on my FB feed and wondered how it worked. Thank you Brent for showing us.
That’s gonna help clean up some tools that went through the shop fire nicely !
These truly are amazing times to be alive.
My company that I work for has been looking into these lasers to replace sandblasting on some of our parts. I think this video will be very informative for our engineers. Very impressive.
Brent you can weld your roof together on your truck with no heat and no problem. Panel bonding will seal the whole roof up .😊👍
From what I understand you must wear special goggles when using laser equipment. If you don't it will cause permanent eye damage. So be careful Brent. Can't wait to see you weld some sheet metal.
You are 💯 correct. I spent over 20 years working with industrial lasers as both a tech rebuilding and doing alignment work and as an engineer working on design applications. That laser would blind someone at up to 2 miles away in a straight line. 500 watts was a big industrial laser just 10 years ago for the record. Safety is no joking matter with these lasers.
@@DanA-nl5uo thanks for the information. I've been interested in this type of equipment for a while. But they come with a hefty price tag.
@@DanA-nl5uo My Mom has worked at Aberdeen Proving Grounds and Alion Science & Technology for the DOD, working with lasers in defense weapons. She said this guy and his wife could die from the particulate matter of even one use. I hope 20 years from now this doesn't come back to haunt them...
Don't use it on your face!
Yup because the laser itself is invisible, the red laser is just so you can aim it. You have to get the right wavelength though or the glasses are useless.
Great purchase, I want one. Saying that I would build a smallish open face booth with high flow external exhaust. Everything burnt will hurt the lungs. So be careful. Pablo seems very concerned. Have fun and thanks for sharing all the videos. Top 3% of vehicle channels. Stay cool…jb…
He's giggling like a kid in a candy shop and she's giggling right along with him. Ya love ta see it!
We have the same name.
Its rare you see someone buy a laser to clean off rust and make you tube video's. You sir are very special.
Dennis Collins of Coffee Walk just hired a guy to bring in a similar machine to cleanup a Jeep chassis, and yours looks like it works twice as good as the one in that video. That thing's going to save a shitload of time. Cheers!😮
I just watched that too. Great results! 😉✌
I watched Ed China use one on RUclips on an old truck chassis if i remember correctly. He rented that one.
Yes that was us! it was really fun and looking forward to going back for more. Should anyone have needs look us up.
@alienlasercleaning where are you located. Sorry; I didn't watch the video. I would like to rent one before falling head first into buying one 😮
I have a 2000w unit coming from China as we speak. Pretty excited to see all of these starting to be used by folks.
What's a nice 1 like that cost? Around 10k+ US? Well worth it tho IMO.
@@michaelbristol6467 The 2000W unit is for sale on Amazon for $16,477.00
@michaelbristol6467 - One site I found, stylecnc, lists ~$5-9k for the 3 in 1 welder, cutter, cleaner unit in 1000W, 1500W, and 3KW continuous wave lasers.
Interestingly affordable for such a capable piece of equipment...
Would be great for where one needs to clean for additional processes.
There should be ventilation/smoke capture and exhaust systems used when running these, I think, especially if removing paints, sealants, and other materials... but zinc it's self, from galvanized items, is a major hazard.
@@michaelbristol6467 I "adjusted" one of these for someone a couple of months ago. It has an over voltage limit in it that's set for 220V which was tripping here where his incoming service was running at 246V (the limit was set at 245, so it would intermittently trip as the voltage would go up a little). He said it was a little over 9k
Where did you pick it up what model ?
I had my 1951 Chevy truck cab Laser Cleaned It turned out awesome nothing warped
COULD USE TO RESTORE MOWER DECKS TO! Endless usabilities. Wow just thought about if you had stock in a lathe. Could clean the rust off first then start the lathing process. This is a great tool and video! Thanks for clueing us in out here! Plus dust levels appears to be way down verses sanding.
After *watching your video* on the Amazon-bought laser welder/cleaner cutter, I'm compelled to express how thoroughly impressed I am with the depth and clarity of your review. Your excitement from unboxing to the first use was infectious, and it really set the tone for an engaging exploration of this sophisticated tool. The way you broke down the capabilities of the laser unit, from welding to rust cleaning and cutting, made the technology feel approachable, despite its complexity.
Your demonstrations were particularly enlightening, offering a clear view of the machine's effectiveness and the practical applications it holds for DIY enthusiasts like myself. The emphasis on safety precautions and the learning curve was greatly appreciated-it's a vital reminder of the respect such powerful tools command.
What stood out to me was the balance in your review. You didn't shy away from discussing the challenges, such as the handling nuances and the maintenance of consumables. This honesty adds so much value, providing a realistic expectation for potential users.
I'm left feeling excited about the possibilities this tool presents for my own projects, and I'm grateful for the insights you've shared. Your satisfaction with the tool, despite its cost and initial hurdles, speaks volumes about its potential impact. Thanks for such a comprehensive and enlightening review. Your work not only showcases the capabilities of modern DIY tools but also guides those of us keen on integrating such technology into our work. Keep up the fantastic content!
Although the items cleaned can rust up quickly you may find that after cleaning with the laser will not rust up as fast since the laser produces a surface that slightly inhibits rust compared to just using a chemical cleaner or other means of rust removal , the beam being a certain wavelength contributes to this .
that's true! I noticed this when I laser-cleaned the square tubing and inadvertently left it outside overnight.
I wonder what would happen if used on a magnesium casting?
@@williamarmstrong7199 I would NOT a Magnesium fire would be almost impossible to extinguish !!!!!!!
Very Cool toy.
We have a laser welder at work ( the shop guys use it) and it does some beautiful welds, we use it on Stainless and it reduces the cleanup time. We had to put up partitions and the have to use a mask while using it, while you can't see it aparently the flash will blind you (it's so much worse that a mig or stick arc)
One way to avoid burning those Rouds glass protection is to have a small 1/4 " hose blowing air the same direction of the laser right on the tip of the nozle.
That sounds like a good tip. 👍
I'd rather have an exhaust or vacuum with water filtration sys8or something 🤔 🙄 😒
Water and air sounds the best I use to turn hot shower on and fan when I was a child to keep the smell particles down to a minimum.
Like hook up an air compressor blower
Right from the Jump the metal resurfacing / cleaning looks bad ass .
Thank you for your preview...
I think by just basic common knowledge on lasers, it's imperative that focal, pass-through and filter lenses are maintained clean and dust free. This said, a fan to deflect flying debris from getting on to the gun should really help on the lifespan of these pass through lenses.
Also from what I've seen, a combination of fans and extractors/air handlers should be a priority. The fumes from several metal finishes and materials can be harmful to breath in.
This tool obviously has its positives but caution should always be implemented. Finding out what materials are not affected by the laser, should be used as a backdrop, just to make sure you don't zap anything you didn't intend to strip.
Yes, I was waiting for a stray blast to sever the orange extention cord.
Ok that is right out of Star Trek like where does go . To another dimension? The coolest thing I think I’ve ever seen
Just started watching the Video. That Crate, for my model train club, that crate is GOLD.
Awesome. The perfect tool to get the Plymouth back from the fire.
We're living in the future, you're removing rust with ease using a friggin lightsaber. Totally nuts.
The possibilities of bringing home a barn or field find rusted pile and having the body and entire underside stripped and ready for primer and body work all in the same day without any harsh chemicals,100s of dollars worth of media,a huge compressor,etc. and all done by a single person.. Talk about money and labor costs savings plus it has to be better for the environment as there's no chemicals,or wastes other than rust dust,paint dust..
The laser cleaner video we all wanted, simply tested on everything imaginable, thanks for this!
Solid piece of kit, and prices are coming down, when it's down to 2-3 grand I might splurge.
Price is up to $11,000 now.
@@briansmyla8696When prices go up due to demand, it means more manufacturers will enter the market, which eventually will lead to prices going down due to competition. There's definitely demand for these kinds of devices when the price is reasonable. I might be totally wrong, but I don't think there's any particular ill-advised patent in effect that would make it impossible for competition to appear.
They were 50 just a couple years ago so they are coming down.
@@briansmyla8696 Our machine only need $4000 🥰
I hear your medical bill going up
As you were opening the crate, i was thinking............"oh, there could be ANYTHING in there".........If this is a leg lamp...
Fra gee lee must be Italian. 😆✌
@@michaelbristol6467 lmao
😂Haha
dammit man, beat me to it!! @@michaelbristol6467
Wrong holiday for the leg lamp
I used to work in a fab shop that had 2 metal cutting lasers, I can smell what Brent's shop is like in my mind.
yeah i can smell the ozone + steel vapors produced
5 dollar delivery fee sounds fair
Man idk but I was nervous when you used it near that spray can and was praying it didn’t hit the can and explode. For a metal worker, it seems like a solid buy that will save you countless hours of manually removing that rust. Now I would like to use that on the metal parts of my jeep that have rusted.
im jealous. you got this after rebuilding your shop. most of us can only dream of having the shop, tools, and personal junk yard that you have. thanks for the videos. i love your build style and your attitude.
where did/do you work?
My buddy and I were heading out to Reynolds Ponds a couple weeks back and I seen your truck heading the other way toward Winnipeg. I may or may not have overreacted, and for a minute my friend thought I was crazy. But then I got to show him your videos while we were ice fishing. Good times
Good old reynolds ponds, the trash dump mb lol. That use to be such a nice place, but dead beats destroyed it. There are major talks of shutting it down to local access as now there are even broken glass in that big lake, even around that little island we’re finding broken glass. It’s become a major hazard and polluted so bad. Things have gotten worse over the last few years as everyone posts the location of that place all over social media, brings in a lot of people that don’t care about our nice getaway and end up destroying it. There’s literally a 50/50 chance you end up getting a flat tire just by driving in. The roads haven’t been maintained in years and the people I’ve talked to said there is zero plans to maintain them any further. It’s phase one of the plan to shut it all down to public access. So sad what people did to that place, I can’t even go there anymore to do long range target shooting. I’m one of those guys that even picks up my 22lr brass, I leave nothing behind except tire tracks. Now we gotta drive like 3hrs 1 way just to shoot 1000+ yards, found an awesome spot that nobody knows about but it’s an all day event with over 6hrs of total driving from wpg.
I can read his mind. He's thinking how good this is going to work on the coupe.
Hi Mate don't put yourself down that was a great vid I think it's the second 1 I've found that isn't company bull or "I was sent this for free but I'll give my honest opinion"(yer whatever) this was just someone who bought one having a good go of it and saying what they think and informative
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Mill scale is predominantly Magnetite, the shading is a change in chemical makeup of the surface, that's why suggest using a ferrous tannate conversion, just using paint will not give a durable finish, most don't know colour finish is permeable to water, the pre-treatment is what give corrosion resistance, miss it out and you get filiform corrosion, creeps under the colour finish.
.. and there wasn't a spec of rust seen in his shop ever again .. ^^ looking very much forward to the welding part !
Brent , you now can get into tattoo removal LoL
Hell yea that's what I'm talking about I bet all of us has got a ex girlfriend or wives name tattoo'ed on our body somewhere haha
Or just offer whole arm removal! 🤣
@@DrFieroAt least the tattoo will be gone. Lol
A good friend has 3!!! Ex's scratched out on his front! Ouch for removal!@@FordDude.
@@FordDude. Nope, lots of us were smart enough not to do something so stupid!
This guys wife is going to get mad at him because hes never going to leave the shop. 😂
hook up an air compressor and clamp the hose to the top of the gun, blowing out/down, that'll keep stuff from flying into the lens. ;-)
That's working awesome, I can't believe it burns through the grease and grime on the Ford automatic transmission. Definitely worth the money.
Imagine you had a car with surface rust but you wanted a nice paint job on it!
For $11,000, it had better work well!
I had to check that price and no bs, 11k!? Hope you get a ton of views
I think we just saw the new CIA information-extraction device!
That would be really helpful for old rims with many layers of old paint on them. Especially with what the local sandblaster guy charges when he knows how long it would take to do with paint stripper and a flap wheel or whatever.
Thats freakin Star Wars stuff.how much amps does it draw?? 220 no doubt.
Yes Sir!!!
Looks great for cleaning up metal like a magic wand!
I can't wait for you to test the laser welder and see if it can weld like they show in the videos, like using seam sealer from a gun. I've never seen any videos of them being used on thin metal so It would be good to see some tests on body work.
use caution around vaporized zinc plating... so unbelievably cool, however. Approach it like painting with a good Binks gun, perfectly parallel to the surface perhaps? We work with laser engravers and a fair number of large format 15kw and 20kw Bystronic cutting laser tables. Dust collection is everything! those vaporized particles go EVERYWHERE....
thank you for sharing this!! This is amazing!
you might be able to rig up an air blower and fix the "soot" issue. I use my fiber laser similarly to get rid of residue left behind which is usually small metal/carbon deposits
Thanks for the demo. But at 28:40, I thought I was going to see an experiment-probably Kroil can should not be in line of fire.
That thing is gonna change the game! You could make money just by having someone sit there and clean car parts all day long. You have a real steady hand, but I guess that's something you need when you do what you do. I would say turn the wattage up when working with large, thick heavy pieces, and stuff that's a little more rusted and caked on than others, like that transmission. You made it look really fun and cool, and now I want one. Man that thing is going to save you so much time, and make you so much money! I love how you did the manly thing, and just threw the instructions away.😄
That thing you cleaned looks like a set of rolls.
I'm agreeing with the idea of either a good shop vac hose right next to the gun tip, to try and catch particles/fumes (and vent outside) or compressed air blowing across the tip. Either one to protect your lenses.
we have a different one at our shop, hook it up to compressed air where the gas gets hooked up for welding, with a low psi setting, and it helps keep the junk out of the tip. saving the lenses.
11k is actually a really decent price because the lowest price i could find was 23k and that was only 6 months ago. Sure media blasting is faster and dustless blasting is cleaner but the mess is just not worth it. Not needing a dedicated blasting booth and not introducing water to fresh bare steel is worth the price alone. Not needing a huge compressor makes this thing quite nice too.
Damn thats cool! I have no need for one, I have no reason for one... but OH GOD DO I WANT ONE!
It looks like adding an "air assist" / "Air curtain" nozzle on the tip just to help keep anything from getting on the lens. Even something low like 5psi just to blow anything flying toward the lens away.
Hopefully you can afford to have one of these next to your pressure washer. They both are very satisfying.
What I think you will find useful is when removing rust from stone chips it will clean inside the rust pit preventing the rust returning.
Man, how much I envy you. It is not within my profession, but it is within my interests and hobbies. Bravo !!!! Congratulations. !!!!
This looks a lot faster than sandblasting and I've been thinking the whole video I bet you'd want to sand it before paint and at the end you mentioned it. It's still WAY less prepwork and sanding than otherwise. I'm gonna consider one of these machines in the future.
Cool video I want one too. I agree when price and size comes down I'll order one. Thank you for sharing!
Thats the coolest thing I have to get my self something just like that save so much time in prep work it would let you send more real time on details instead of rust removal that eats up so much time
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Wow, that's amazing. Now I have to look up the science behind this
They should feed compressed air to the end of the tip to prevent junk from entering it.
The comments about the dangers of hexavalent chromium as a by product of the vaporization process is correct. The vapors can however be safely removed with a hepa filter ventilation system.
I Would recommend extraction vent, and or, at least a respirato,r those fumes cannot be good for you to breath
Also protect your eyes had a friend who started working with LED diodes and 6 months latter had lost 50-60% of his vision I could see that happening here real fast, and remember the problem with wielding galvanized u can get to die from the fume inhalation from that within 36 hours of breathing that stuff in
Just a tip for using that thing if you can keep your beam at a 45° angle pointed away from you and work your way backwards you'll save on those consumable lenses.
Half my comment was deleted when uploading I was biging you up big time lol but in a nut shell keep up the good work I've subscribed to see a follow up on the laser when you have used it in the real world for a bit I respect your opinion.
showing the love from across the pond in Liverpool England
Just a suggestion, if you want to save the protective lens longer you may want to be more on an angle when removing rust etc. When your face on the bounce back is more likely to bounce back towards your lens.
This makes sand blasting seem old fashioned, just amazing and looks like so much fun. I'd probably run out of stuff to clean, wow...
Excellent laser! I'm glad to see you getting your tools back like a Phoenix rising from the ashes. Happy for you Brent
Quite the expenditure! You should've waited. Next year it'll be a standard feature on every cell phone!
I bet if you research enough you could probably make your own protective lenses . Good to see the shop full and productive . I’ve been away all winter so I have some catching up to do .
You will want to setup some type of fume extraction. You are right, it is vaporizing material, into very small particles. Think of a plasma table, same fumes and matter in the air.
To help protect the lense, you could setup an air nozzle like you'd find on a plasma cutter as well, you wouldn't need much pressure, just a few psi down a 1/4" line. I run air assist on my Co2 laser on low pressure when engraving to keep smoke and debris away.
Does it have any settings to adjust the frequency of the laser? That will adjusy how many times the laser pulses as it is never "always on", this can drastically alter how it interacts with various coatings, corrosions, and surfaces.