Liturgy of the Bell to me represents the flower it summons being the bell in question, as its healing pulses out like the slow rings of a massive church bell, and its a liturgy because it's group worship (aoe heals) organized by the ordained white mage
Thank you for covering the traits of Paladin and White Mage! I really enjoy being educated like this. Your content is very intriguing and enlightening! Keep it up.
As a fun bit, Divine Benison when it was originally added to the game used to use up your lilies as well. As for Liturgy of the Bell, the bell and flower aesthetic is also a link to Lilies of the Valley, which are also called May Bells or Mary’s Tears
@@notGeist Lilies were completely different back then. They were consumed on almost all of your ogcd cooldowns, and would reduce their cooldowns based on the number of lilies consumed. The only catch was that for some reason, Benison would require a lily to be cast at all. They were also generated by doing... GCD heals. Yeah, it wasn't great.
It was worse. Lilies were generated 50% of the time when casting Cure and 100% of the time when casting Cure 2. Divine Benison required a lily to cast, but Assize and Asylum would use up all of your lilies on use as well.
As an Orthodox catechumen, this was very accurate without getting into the nitty gritty of things! Thank you for this accurate portrayal of our faith, I hope the research into it was enjoyable!
That's good to hear. Christianity is a major part of my study and I have other videos that take an introductory approach to the different practices and areas of the Church.
7:12 you could say that Benison is you blessing your ally before the attack, similar to blessing food before eating it. It gives yourself or an ally a temporary shield after all.
Tetragrammaton is like uttering God's name as a healing word. It's possible it was inspired by the concept of Healing Word, which appears in a few RPGs including Dungeons and Dragons as a small, quick heal.
and yet, the scholar is the one who gets the angelic transformation skill. and when I protested this idea, saying I didn't like getting a white mage cosplay skill as the fairy / war mage / tactician class, on various forums, I got push back saying the white mage is a earth/elemental/druidic caster and has no connection to angels or Christianity but the scholar has seraph, so it makes sense. :/
White Mage has much more Christian imagery and references than Scholar in my opinion. Additionally (I could be wrong) I believe Scholar in Japan is called Tactician, and Arcanist is called Ritualist. Scholar is very much Fey themed in aesthetic.
The term Liturgy of the Bell also reminds me of growing up in the roman catholic church. At the end of Lent (the 40 days before easter when you fast and sacrifice to symbolize/remember Jesus' 40 days in the desert) is Easter (which covers him dying and rising again). I got to be the bell ringer at Easter mass. During the veneration of the Eucharist this undiagnosed ADHD kid got to ring a handful of noisy bells constantly and as loud as I could in an otherwise silent church and then go home and eat all the chocolate I wanted (that I had given up for lent). That's my personal experience with taking damage and then being healed by bells (and chocolate).
YOSSSSSSSS!!!!!! Edit: yo i had no idea about some of these! (I also had no idea Christianity also inherited use of the Tetragrammaton! That’s so awesome! ^^)
Another one is black mage’s Enochian. Enochian is named after Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah. It is said to be the language of the angels and demons. John Dee and Edward Kelley say the language was revealed to them by an angel and it was initially called Angelical but later became Enochian because they believed Enoch was the last man to speak it. It is now seen as a magical language and has made a few pop culture appearances. In the Castlevania Netflix series, a word (teloch which means death) is spoken when Trevor, Sypha, and Alucard open the way into the Belmont hold. In the Bayonetta series the characters speak it when they perform their summonings. Also when the speak, the angels of paradiso and demons of inferno speak it.
This was a very informative video, I did not know any of the connections Tetragrammaton had beyond perhaps hearing its literal/latin translation before. It seems like a mix of abilities made to have relevance and connection or merely latin flavoring for others. I think it would be curious to see if the original japanese script has any more skills or abilities that tie into Christian terms. Thinking on it a little more, older versions have had abilities removed, such as 1.0's Shroud of Saints (Turin?) so I wonder if more curious finds are still waiting?
@@ellasbian Yes, but Afflatus, is latin for Breath(noun) or Breathe in(verb). So fart still doesn't hold up. I know it would be funny, but don't stretch.
Something I wanna draw attention to here is Black Mage with its Enochian ability. Angels are a special interest of mine, though IDK how accurate this is since I found this by going down wiki rabbit holes But Enochian, to my knowledge, is the language of angels, which has some interesting ramifications for what incantations a Black Mage could be using. The job likely doesn't have any more references to it but thought it'd be a cool thing to mention.
I wondered why the Paladin & White mage were my favorite classes. I believe in God & the skill names reminded me of the bible but I honestly thought it was just referencing the bible but I see that the pld/whm are warriors blessed by God.
So if you can rework the abilities of a White mage would tetragrammaton act better as an AOE version of benediction? I've always personally thought asylum and sacred soil names should be swapped between scholar and White mage.
I'm not totally sure, maybe it could have been a damage reduction buff? Implying you're being protected by God, giving a temporary damage reduction rather than just a quick heal.
I hadn't touched WHM cuz I was thinking it was more druidic Job than a Priest, but I had no idea there were this many christian named abilities. I'm going to have to level WHM now.
On the topic of Plenary Indulgence not having a cleanse We already have that across healers: Esuna So having effectively a party wide Esuna that also heals a pretty big amount in one spell on a Minute Cooldown is pretty huge
Scholars had a party wide esuna for a while. It was one of Selene's skills, back when the fairies had different abilities. So the idea isn't unthinkable, and I can definitively say that there aren't any mechanics in balance-around content that would be completely broken by an aoe esuna, since they're scared of making you press buttons that aren't "do damage" "take less damage" and "heal damage".
In content where it would matter, debuffs are either uncleansable or they are a punishment for failing a mechanic (like Dropsy). From my memories of savage raiding, if someone misposition and got Dropsy healers would rather drop down a GCD heal on that character than Esuna them. Healers healing is based on how much TANKS need, so a healer even dropping a small heal on a non-Tank is practically a full heal. Esuna is pretty underutilised these days because DoTs can also be counteracted by just healing more.
I feel like the word "holy" is a very common religiously adjacent term but ultimately too vague to really say much about. It is a very pretty animation though.
The original vowels of the Tetragrammaton aren't lost. Going by multiple historic sources it is now clear that Yahwe is indeed the original vowelisation of it.
Perhaps so. I've spoken to various historians and theologians, even various ordained priests, but I keep getting mixed conclusions, at least on my end. Curious what the global consensus is.
Liturgy of the Bell to me represents the flower it summons being the bell in question, as its healing pulses out like the slow rings of a massive church bell, and its a liturgy because it's group worship (aoe heals) organized by the ordained white mage
I like this description!
The fact that the emergency heal button is the WHM literally invoking God's name is fitting. It's like "Oh God, please don't die!"
This works well ❤️
Thank you for covering the traits of Paladin and White Mage! I really enjoy being educated like this. Your content is very intriguing and enlightening! Keep it up.
Thank you!
As a fun bit, Divine Benison when it was originally added to the game used to use up your lilies as well.
As for Liturgy of the Bell, the bell and flower aesthetic is also a link to Lilies of the Valley, which are also called May Bells or Mary’s Tears
It used to use your lillies? I would have hated that.
@@notGeist Lilies were completely different back then. They were consumed on almost all of your ogcd cooldowns, and would reduce their cooldowns based on the number of lilies consumed. The only catch was that for some reason, Benison would require a lily to be cast at all. They were also generated by doing... GCD heals. Yeah, it wasn't great.
It was worse.
Lilies were generated 50% of the time when casting Cure and 100% of the time when casting Cure 2. Divine Benison required a lily to cast, but Assize and Asylum would use up all of your lilies on use as well.
As an Orthodox catechumen, this was very accurate without getting into the nitty gritty of things! Thank you for this accurate portrayal of our faith, I hope the research into it was enjoyable!
That's good to hear. Christianity is a major part of my study and I have other videos that take an introductory approach to the different practices and areas of the Church.
7:12 you could say that Benison is you blessing your ally before the attack, similar to blessing food before eating it. It gives yourself or an ally a temporary shield after all.
thank you for these videos man, super cool
What an amazing video, you deserve a lot more attention!
Thank you!
this was a cool breakdown, subbed
Tetragrammaton is like uttering God's name as a healing word. It's possible it was inspired by the concept of Healing Word, which appears in a few RPGs including Dungeons and Dragons as a small, quick heal.
and yet, the scholar is the one who gets the angelic transformation skill.
and when I protested this idea, saying I didn't like getting a white mage cosplay skill as the fairy / war mage / tactician class, on various forums, I got push back saying the white mage is a earth/elemental/druidic caster and has no connection to angels or Christianity but the scholar has seraph, so it makes sense. :/
White Mage has much more Christian imagery and references than Scholar in my opinion. Additionally (I could be wrong) I believe Scholar in Japan is called Tactician, and Arcanist is called Ritualist. Scholar is very much Fey themed in aesthetic.
The term Liturgy of the Bell also reminds me of growing up in the roman catholic church. At the end of Lent (the 40 days before easter when you fast and sacrifice to symbolize/remember Jesus' 40 days in the desert) is Easter (which covers him dying and rising again). I got to be the bell ringer at Easter mass. During the veneration of the Eucharist this undiagnosed ADHD kid got to ring a handful of noisy bells constantly and as loud as I could in an otherwise silent church and then go home and eat all the chocolate I wanted (that I had given up for lent). That's my personal experience with taking damage and then being healed by bells (and chocolate).
Thanks for sharing this 😹. I imagine Lent is very difficult for children but at least you got tons of chocolate.
YOSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
Edit: yo i had no idea about some of these! (I also had no idea Christianity also inherited use of the Tetragrammaton! That’s so awesome! ^^)
Happy it was interesting!
Isn't Jehovah another pronunciation for the tetragrammaton?
Yes. Though it's much more used by Jehovah's Witnesses than any other Christian branch or denomination
I didn't know the meaning of Assize. That's cool!
Another one is black mage’s Enochian.
Enochian is named after Enoch, the great-grandfather of Noah. It is said to be the language of the angels and demons. John Dee and Edward Kelley say the language was revealed to them by an angel and it was initially called Angelical but later became Enochian because they believed Enoch was the last man to speak it.
It is now seen as a magical language and has made a few pop culture appearances. In the Castlevania Netflix series, a word (teloch which means death) is spoken when Trevor, Sypha, and Alucard open the way into the Belmont hold.
In the Bayonetta series the characters speak it when they perform their summonings. Also when the speak, the angels of paradiso and demons of inferno speak it.
This was a very informative video, I did not know any of the connections Tetragrammaton had beyond perhaps hearing its literal/latin translation before. It seems like a mix of abilities made to have relevance and connection or merely latin flavoring for others. I think it would be curious to see if the original japanese script has any more skills or abilities that tie into Christian terms.
Thinking on it a little more, older versions have had abilities removed, such as 1.0's Shroud of Saints (Turin?) so I wonder if more curious finds are still waiting?
I hadn't considered the removed abilities but that is a good point!
in scientific terminology, a flatus is a fart
Scientific term for fart is flatulence, not flatus. Though it's not as funny.
F A R T R A P T U R E
@@FutayuriShironekothe actual gas is called flatus though
@@ellasbian Yes, but Afflatus, is latin for Breath(noun) or Breathe in(verb).
So fart still doesn't hold up.
I know it would be funny, but don't stretch.
So much wisdom !!
I love the context! Any chance you’ll be doing Sage or Astrologian?
I've been thinking about Astrologian since I'm already familiar with Astrology.
Something I wanna draw attention to here is Black Mage with its Enochian ability. Angels are a special interest of mine, though IDK how accurate this is since I found this by going down wiki rabbit holes
But Enochian, to my knowledge, is the language of angels, which has some interesting ramifications for what incantations a Black Mage could be using.
The job likely doesn't have any more references to it but thought it'd be a cool thing to mention.
looking it up, it was passed down from angels to occultists, and black mage would definitely fit the vibe.
this is fascinating
I wondered why the Paladin & White mage were my favorite classes.
I believe in God & the skill names reminded me of the bible but I honestly thought it was just referencing the bible but I see that the pld/whm are warriors blessed by God.
They do share a lot of terminology! I study the Bible and church history so I always noticed it but never had a platform for content creation.
sometimes the algorithm works, thanks for the video! I'm not very religious myself but i'm interested in theology nevertheless
So if you can rework the abilities of a White mage would tetragrammaton act better as an AOE version of benediction? I've always personally thought asylum and sacred soil names should be swapped between scholar and White mage.
I'm not totally sure, maybe it could have been a damage reduction buff? Implying you're being protected by God, giving a temporary damage reduction rather than just a quick heal.
I hadn't touched WHM cuz I was thinking it was more druidic Job than a Priest, but I had no idea there were this many christian named abilities. I'm going to have to level WHM now.
On the topic of Plenary Indulgence not having a cleanse
We already have that across healers: Esuna
So having effectively a party wide Esuna that also heals a pretty big amount in one spell on a Minute Cooldown is pretty huge
Scholars had a party wide esuna for a while. It was one of Selene's skills, back when the fairies had different abilities. So the idea isn't unthinkable, and I can definitively say that there aren't any mechanics in balance-around content that would be completely broken by an aoe esuna, since they're scared of making you press buttons that aren't "do damage" "take less damage" and "heal damage".
In content where it would matter, debuffs are either uncleansable or they are a punishment for failing a mechanic (like Dropsy). From my memories of savage raiding, if someone misposition and got Dropsy healers would rather drop down a GCD heal on that character than Esuna them. Healers healing is based on how much TANKS need, so a healer even dropping a small heal on a non-Tank is practically a full heal. Esuna is pretty underutilised these days because DoTs can also be counteracted by just healing more.
LETS GOOO
idk how i got here but i dig it
white mage for life
Do sage because idk what anything means
I believe sage are mostly medical terms in Latin. Seems like stuff I'd read in a medical text from the middle ages or something.
@@Jcarte4308 I thought Sage names are Greek?
@SamTAnderson ah you're right, I didn't double-check my post. Definitely Greek words.
You forgot Holy, and Holy III ;)
I feel like the word "holy" is a very common religiously adjacent term but ultimately too vague to really say much about. It is a very pretty animation though.
Huh, neat
Came for the etymology on FF abilities, staying for the essays on Christianity. ;)
I'm glad you enjoyed
YES FINALLY A TOPIC I CAN THRIVE IN
Tetragrammaton - I am the only one who understand both definitions haha
The great assize actually has a double meaning since it is also a reference to Jesus’ ginormous dumpy
Hah, I see what you did there.
The original vowels of the Tetragrammaton aren't lost. Going by multiple historic sources it is now clear that Yahwe is indeed the original vowelisation of it.
Perhaps so. I've spoken to various historians and theologians, even various ordained priests, but I keep getting mixed conclusions, at least on my end. Curious what the global consensus is.
you are adorable!
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Not a big fan of Christianity but this was still interesting nonetheless
I'm pretty sure those are latin words though.