GURDJIEFF: The Teachings That Changed the World
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- Опубликовано: 28 июл 2024
- 🔵 Georges Ivanovič Gurdjieff, a mystic, philosopher, and spiritual teacher whose impact on Western culture remains profound.
In this in-depth exploration, we discover the enigmatic teachings of Gurdjieff, known as The Fourth Way, a unique approach to spiritual development that integrates elements from both Eastern and Western traditions.
Join us on this journey towards self-awareness and inner transformation through Gurdjieff's teachings.
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So here is something I’ve observed. No matter how great a spiritual leader or teacher one is it is very rare for the students of these people to reach the levels of understanding or spiritual enlightenment that the masters do. I don’t think it’s because they are bad teachers or false in anyway but this path is so personal and different for everyone that following someone else’s blueprint almost never works.
Inner personal truth
That was deeper than I thought it would be… I came back here to comment because main comment has been heavy on my mind.
@@izm4life once you have the basic truth of oneness down you must practice it until it overflows into every part of your life. Then you can follow the Dharma that flows from source and is filtered through your specific incarnation.
Yet, you are just thinking theoretically . Try to attain something, try find genuine teacher, not new age bull..., and then come and tell us how close did you come
@@mstefanovic9475 not theoretical but from my personal experience. And I have had many great teachers in my life that have helped with my awakening but it didn’t come from following their exact recipes but allowing their guidance to be sign posts for my enlightenment but at the end of the day the truly impactful stuff came from inside.
I’ve been a practicioneer of his method since some years, had the experience to join a group in my town. My life hasn’t been the same anymore, things turned somehow less complicated by being more aware of yourself. Not gonna lie, work is tremendously hard but high rewarded equally. I think best groups must be around Europe.
Thanks for sharing your experience!
there is no way your life can be the same after meeting and practicing the work.. i was in a group as a young man , studdied and practiced intensly for about a decade before i began to question if i had been blessed or cursed.. now, after a couple decades of being in and out of sleep, i;m still not sure which state is more benficial.
@@fredstein5429it's only when you look back at times of sleep that you are awake.
Asleep = identification with the temporal = experience contains awareness.
Awake = identification with the eternal = awareness contains experience.
Awake = no identification
@@mstefanovic9475 Who's awake then (?) Don't they have an _identity_ -- who they are (?) Why Isn't that _identification_ (?)
Gurdjieff has given us many psychological tools to wake up from an unconscious slumber. I have studied Gurdjieff’s works for over 50 years. I now teach his ideas regarding the psychological aspects of human nature which are my focus and are truly profound. The dancing, the music, the enneagram, are complex and irrelevant to the work that I do. I include Spinoza, a 17th century philosopher, as a part of my work. Spinoza gives us keys of achieving the 4th Way.
I would love to hear more from you. This is my first time to hear of GJ and yet I have been using and practicing his his views the majority of my 67 years out of my own intentional conscious awareness. I would like to know more about this practitioner and his work. I will look it/him up, but am open to others thoughts on it/him as well.
I would like to know more about what you do in this regard.
Nothing, he’s just a real estate agent 😂 and we all know what’s that all about 😂😂😂
Can you give me a group that does this in the netherlands please?thank you very much.
@@dejangaletic7884 yes, to earn a living I was a hairstylist for 25 years and a Realtor for 20 years. For my spiritual intelligent growth I had a teacher for 25 years and continue my studies for these past 30 years. Do have a question?
I don't mean to be too critical of a 14 minute video, but nothing here about Identification or the enormously important idea of Self Remembering. However, it's always good to see material about this man. A true sage!
We don't aim to cover all of Gurdjieff's teachings in this brief video.
Certainly we'll produce more specific videos on related subjects in the future.
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Nobody knows how to self remember because the path is subjective but there is better system to explore with the enneagram in awakening like the tree of life in Kabbalah it is applied in all occult group and its part of the golden down that root back to hermetic philosophy till freemasonry today .. its the most important subject to study if you seek to awake but let me tell you one thing that for sure … all mystic seek to uniting the opposite and go beyond their mental duality about life , these conditioning or dualities are not all our own making some of them comes from other people negative gaze towards us forming negative beliefs… the path between the opposite is called the golden mean in philosophy some of the famous duality is power and love in the Kabbalah because they’re opposite when people operate in one without the other the conclusion is life long of exploitations or life long victimhood
The enneagram also should be examined like this when doing inner work you should do the golden mean
It must be said that Russell Smith, RIP, followed up on Gurdjieff’s legacy with a comprehensive research and writing on Consciousness resulting in an Objective understanding of the awakening of consciousness and an understanding of the principles of Realty. He and his many students have accumulated an amazing website, incredible teaching textbook, and hundreds of memorable recordings of students who have been transformed by their study with him and his associates. I recommend his work without reservation. Blessings to all, Dr. Mel Preisz.
Any links or sources? I want to look into what you’re referencing but can’t find anything.
I am DAVID.
I have ALWAYS "been" DAVID😊
Every "EVENT" today, has been a "PART" of a GREATER "WAY"
(NO "MAN" knows, nor should HE "CLAIM" to "know"❤)
I recently got affiliated with a group and asked specifically about this, and got the answer that Gurdjieff never made any mentions for Enneagram personality interpretation. You can assume from what is mentioned about it in "In search of the miraculous" by Ouspenky that it could be used for personality types as well but that's not the case. Since the personality is a system/interpretation created after his death by people not working with the groups of work he left behind, feels like a misunderstanding to consider it a part of his work.
Thanks.
Thank your - I wanted to point that out.
I have been on the spiritual path over 20 years, and learned from many spiritual masters. This practice is really extraordinary, and quite mind blowing to me. I love the tools of choice that GURDJIEFF uses from the spiritual movement to the symbolism. I look forward to reading more of his work. Thank you ❤
Thank you!🙏
“ to stop hibitual patters of mind is Yoga” first line in Yogasutra Book,
4 states of consciousness 1.awake 2.dream/imagination 3.deep sleepOff state 4. Fourth state (Turiya) , book shivsutra
Ashtavakra Gita book talks about Sakshi the witness, observer within us, observing mind emotion and actions
Book tao te Ching talks about these effortless action ..
I wasn't spiritual before, but deep depression led to an accidental spiritual awakening that completely shifted my reality, i encountered what Gurdjieff calls the "real world." It profoundly changed me, yet the challenge lies in the fact that this experience can't be taught. My concern with gurus is that their methods, rooted in personal experiences, might not resonate with everyone; it's crucial for individuals to discover their own paths.
Fourth way is synonymous to Turiya state which is part of Advaitha vedanta in Hinduism
Beyond fourth is the state Turiya Theet, fully absorbed in the absolute yet attending to the worldly activities. Also called as Stitha Prajna
Well, I thank him for his enneagram diagrams...I was blessed in 1984 to have a retreat with Dhiravamsa who integrated the Enneagram into 6 week meditation retreats and we each learned to identify our type. Finally I saw why I was who I was and have been able to embrace who I am much better
Amazing! Thank you! Top 10 Video of All Time.
Thank you!🙏
Thank you for sharing.
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What did Gurdjeff think of Rudolf Steiner's Anthroposphy?
As a story teller he was
par excellence. Meetings with remarkable men " A good start
And, or, of course, life is only real when you are real.
Thanks
Thank you 🙏
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Such a valuable information to apply in your life.
Thank you! 🙏
The Fourth Way. P D Ouspensky and Maurice Nichols. First book that woke me up.😇😇
Probably didn’t. 99.99999% THINK they have.
Interesting reflections however if I may … great honest dedicated teachers Mr G included all ways makes explicit that are no warranties plus they are really not meant to be followed but studies … in French the verb to teach is also the verb to learn … Mr G called himself … basiquement un Maître de Danse 🕺✌🏼 💃🏻 Merci l’inspiration l’attention toujours 🙏
Gurjideff attracted big egos.
He set traps. Those that figured it out would leave. Those that stayed would not.
Thanks 😮
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Very Interesting …….🌞
great
All these teachings are from Hinduism,Jainism and Buddhism.
Fourth way _ look for Mandukya Upanishad ( Description of Om symbol)
Mindfulness+Mediation _look for Pantajali Yoga sutras+ Buddhist Mediation+Philosophy of Lord Shiva
Look for School of thought inside Hinduism (Advaita Vedanta) + Tibetan Buddhism about practing something to achieve self realization .
Seems like he is doing Tantric Practices .look for Polymath Abinavguta's works.
Look for Sri Ramana Maharshi's works.
And so many .
Thanks for making a wonderful video!
Ospensky was a hell of a student in this respect
Mystic and Philosopher is totally different channel manager 😂
The way you said "fakir" made me look up from my research awfully quickly. Quick rewind, please. "Oooohh, THAT fakir!"
Its in arabic , he means by it the person who work with his body only
He just reiterated the teaching from eastern religion namely hinduism, buddhism, Jainism, to western audience.
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the strange thing about this figure is: as he is a contemporain of the great eastern thinkers of his era and geografical location like Marx, Engels and Lenin and Ataturk, he never mingled in their discours creating new dimensions for millions of people. How then did he was of any importance to the thinking in the western world. Maybe he was also very dicrete....
He was a Prophet , he told us why he was here
"And the results of that without guidance or understanding will be very very bad"
He has already saved the human race
But of course the Sheep and the Wolves dont know it
Because they are listening with both different and the wrong ears at the same time
"Clever girl!"
then his guidance is at best a religion and hereby he comes in straight competition with many other prophets in history. Which one then, should I choose.? Not easy. Is he a better prophet than the other ones? Does his guidance lead to higher advantage? Still I observate he sits in the category of non recognized religions How come? @@gratefulkm
@@decnijfkris3706 Guidance, surely the first question must be why do you seek guidance ?
Exactly what biological experience are you suffering ? that you seem to be seeking guidance with ?
The Religions are all the same discussion between them about what exactly are we do with the knowledge
The advantage depends on whether you are a sheep or a wolf ?
Sheep the advantage is they get to dont worry about it we took care of it all ,
hundreds of thousands of years ago
The Wolves advantage is they get to reattach , which in reality is a biological argument that the sound frequency has nothing to do with
@@gratefulkm makes me think of my days when I was still young. I was the guide to my sheep. Some days - guided them to rich pastures, other days with the same kindness I guided them to the slaughter bank..let me be your guide brother trust me have faith in me. My ass
@@decnijfkris3706 , You have already been led to the pasture your are in, we have been leading you for hundreds of thousands of years
I told you the sheep , they Shag, they eat grass and shag
they cant ever comprehend what is going on because by their biological definition they are Sheep and that's correct and right
Its of no concern to them,
They enjoy thier almost utterly meaningless existence , just like the Birds and the Bees
a PFC Monkey, if you will
your wording is far to attached to be that of a worm
Nice.
Thanks!
The key to waking from the sleep that Gurdjieff spotted it CONSCIOUS SLEEP.
Lucid Dreaming. Being aware of the three states of Waking, Dreaming, and Dreamless Sleep.
World must protect the cradle of spirituality which is the practice of sanatana dharma
Please fix your subtitles. @1:37 it should read “acquired OCCULT knowledge” not “ acquired a CULT knowledge.” These are two completely different things. Little details matter and make all the difference when it comes to clear understanding.
You right, we carefully check all the subtitles, but every now and mistakes happen! Thanks for the tip!
@@TimeWhisper365The last chapter says Anagram!
Gurdgeif Bodhana You are not mentally (angry). Don't react immediately to your emotions that are not physical (whatever happened)..wait for 24 hours...watch..observe...then if they are there then watch every action........True Witness philosophy Know ....mind ..freed from emotions and everything ...liberated mind is found nowhere else....watch them disappear in just a few minutes........experiment as experience You know...thanks
i cant say ive read everything written about what gurdjieff taught. but i do have quite a background in the work . and i dont recall anything about him saying that this world was a manifestation of what he called the real world. but i may be wrong..
In today's world, Isha yoga covers whatever GF covered, in a most simplified way.
In all 4 dimensions, physical, mental, emotional and energy wise - approahing from all 4 dimensions to ensure inner transformation.
Where can I purchase guided meditations in this Gurdieff method?
Gurdjieff related meditations provided by Gurdjieffian Alan Clewes from Toronto. "The MORNING SITTING" here on YT is a good start of the day. Splash a water on your face, towel off, then SIT. Other Gurdjieff related meditations on Alans channel. These meditations were given students during the 1940's, the last decade of Gurdjieff's life. LINK: ruclips.net/video/aAtLGkHUhDM/видео.html
@@ghahandi thank you 🙏
Was this world ever meant to be paradise. Does a greenhouse plant grow strong or does it take wind and sun. The world is. has been and will always be, good and evil. You can only change yourself and not expect to change the world as a drop of somewhat pure water is lost in the sea.
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When someone’s deliberately entertaining an aura of mysticism and acting as if they’re guarding secrets from higher realms, your know deep inside something’s off because they always have something to sell you eventually. The ultimate reality doesn’t have anything to sell you. Your real guide dwells deep inside you and remain unbeknownst of you because her voice is so calm, so peaceful, so faint. Her name is Turiya
If I aspired to climb a challenging mountain, say the Himalayas, I would’ve preferred guidance from local Sherpas or someone who had been trained by them.
Spiritual work can be a much more complex issue and even more so requires an experienced guide who knows the ways up.
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Source of video?
There are at least three videos here: “Meetings With Remarkable Men” made by Peter Brook and the Gurdjieff Foundation, and a documentary which is very good (three parts). Don’t remember title.
What and who are these dancers
Actual students of the Gurdjieff Foundation- trained by the woman who Gurdjieff gave stewardship of the movement on his deathbed: Madam deSalzman. She wrote an autobiography too. The movements themselves were Gurdjieffs principals way of teaching his wisdom. They are simply called the Movements and are tightly linked to the music he also brought via his student Thomas de Hartman.
Everything that he says is already written in the Upanishads and Vedant philosophy is almost similar to what he says.
Nice presentation except one thing: Gurdjieff's Enneagram has nothing to do with the misprint enneagram of personality types..
The Fourth Way is Hinduism, which they call “Turiya.”
Turīya (तुरीय) refers to the “fourth state of consciousness”, according to Vāgīśvarakīrti’s Tattvaratnāvaloka verse 17The psychological state of deep dreamless sleep (turīya) resembles to a degree the absolute quiescence of the Universe after dissolution (pralaya) when all existences return to the state of the Great Night (Mahārātri).
In this state of perfect integration nothing remains but the transcendent power of Time, Mahā-Kālī.
Now, according to Swami Sivananda, _turiya_ is the *fourth state of consciousness* in which the individual rests in Satchidanandam (“ever-existing, ever-conscious, ever-new bliss”). The individual has attained nirvikalpa samadhi or final liberation from ego consciousness and is united with infinite spirit.
Gurdjieff related meditations provided by Gurdjieffian Alan Clewes from Toronto. "The MORNING SITTING" here on YT is a good start of the day. Splash a water on your face, towel off, then SIT. Other Gurdjieff related meditations on Alans channel. These meditations were given students during the 1940's, the last decade of Gurdjieff's life. LINK: ruclips.net/video/aAtLGkHUhDM/видео.html
Changed the world ?
10:05
The same pose as Friedrich Nietzsche
You forgot to mention Orthodox Christianity.
Some of his actual disciples said his practice died with him
…changed the world! Wow! Hardly any one even knows who Gurdjeif was… lol .. “it’s very interesting” “as they put it” how Gurdjeifians love to exaggerate and over inflate their “work” and teaching. G was quite an interesting man himself, but hardly can any one say that about his students now.. and for most part have been leaving a trail of this lunatic mentality if anything …
The music background: DOES YOU NO FAVORS! Can you lose it? It's rather ugly, actually. Respectfully submitted for your consideration Gregg Oreo Long Beach CA Etats Unis
jaarj gurdjiyaf
Gurdjieff was a Greek Armenian esoteric philosopher
"Gurdjieff, The Teaching That Changed the World." Funny the world seems to be beating to its own drum and not to Gurdjieff's. All the claims of how the great sages changed the world and yet the world is still colossally messed up. Followers of any prophet think the world is studying their master. The world has no idea of most masters. Gurdjieff died a drunk and also thoroughly addicted to nicotine. He knew how to play the game of if you stick with me long enough I and only I, will reveal incredible spiritual truths which will change your life for the better, like it did for me, you can die addicted to cigarettes and alcohol and die of alcoholism, too. How could he be so enlightened and need those crutches. Everyone has a guru within and convince themselves that they can only do it with the help of a master.
He was human. You see crutches. Read what he himself has to say about these “crutches”.
Sorry too many words by him to find any potential gold. I read one of his copious books. He certainly had enough hustler in him. He could also write a book on throwing beer in women's faces on trains and the enlightenment gained by such actions. Do you really actually think you need a guru to go within?@@NitroNilz
Around 10 min mark, freemason hand gesture is it not? One hand inside the coat..
I've gotten a lot of value from Gurdjieff's teachings but this part makes me nervous.
Hmmm...it should. Good catch.
What a good observation.
Yeah makes me wonder about the hidden hand and its influence in these groups
If that’s enough to stop you from digging deeper, then so be it.
@@NitroNilz It's not. I'm still working with the materials, it's just that this new piece of information isn't so comforting.
This sounds like Advaita Vedanta
This sounds like a great many things to many people. Truth sounds true to the ones who can smell it. Its many forms.
@@NitroNilz Hmm, so truth can be different for everyone? How is it truth then? I suppose if it’s all the Absolute then it is the same in various forms.
@@renakmans3521 Truth is Truth - it comes in may forms, right on! I like the analogy of all the fingers pointing to the same moon (who cares about the fingers!). (Bonus: The moon only reflects from the sun.)
He was Greek not Armenian. And you can see the Greek heritage in his approach. If you are aware. That is, aware of the Greek tradition and not what Westerners think of "Greek tradition".
Father was Greek, mother was Armenian.
@@ivanpeters6346 Ιωάννη Γεωργιάδης Ευδοκία Ελευθεριάδου. His parents. Both Greek names. She was born in Armenia.
I think his students were generally dissatisfied. He had them digging holes and filling them in again. Je also wrote a hard to phathom book. Didn't leave anything of value.
Read what his students said: Most were very satisfied with the results upon their beings of the said digging and filling of holes. The books made me laugh out loud when the thought struck me: What if this was a joke to make me struggle with this written gibberish until I finally realized I should throw it away and awaken!
No, the dog is buried much deeper, seekers.
This pales in the light of the Gospel.
For me G. opened the Gospels to make them relevant to my own being and it’s development.
The Gospels are the witnessing if Christs miracles anfmd glory with some teachings. There are more of Christ's teachings in the Gnostic texts of the Nag Hamadi.
This is self work. Sharpening ones consciousness.
Are you lost?
@@HappyHermitt I once was lost in Gnostic texts but now l'm found.
I'm beginning to think he was influenced by Christian Theosophy, especially the crystallization of the Higher-Being-Bodies, including Franz Xaver von Baader, amongst many others. The fourth way, though, is probably from Antoine Fabre d'Olivet & Papus, the latter who talked about the three factories of the human machine, being the intellectual, emotional & instinctive, sounds familiar, with maybe a pinch of Turiya. The enneagram comes from S. Karpp's French book on the Zohar & the tetragram from "Isis Unveiled", Gurdjieff didn't teach anything about enneagram types. The four states of consciousness, including self-remembering comes from Plato's cave.
Ultimately another attempt by man to look for salvation somewhere outside of God's grace. As Gurdjieff himself has said that which is unconscious cannot make itself conscious.
Hasn't aged well.
Bladdie blah go outside
Why this terrible background music? The script is really well done, but I cannot keep watching like this
smells charlatan
The poet Ezra Pound met with Gurjieff for lunch. He said that the meeting would have been better with more soup and less talk.
then stop sniffing your own underwear
The poet was thinking on the superficial clearly.
Credibility has little to do with your understanding.
@@washingtonsmith Good point! Ezra Pound is not a hero to me. His support for Mussolini was well-intentioned, but thoroughly misguided.
Jesus towers over the 4th way.
Topsyturvy
@@NitroNilz I don't understand.
@@ralphricart3177 it means upside down. I.e. Jesus was 4th way, i.e. the 4th Way towers over st. Jesus.
@@NitroNilz It doesn't talk about the 4th way anywhere in the Bible. The Bible says Jesus is the way, not the forth way. Please explain.
@@ralphricart3177 It don’t talk about the 1st, 2nd or 3rd way either. Still there are many Christian nuns and monks. Jesus was not ń by any religion - he exploded the frame of Judaism. The 4th way “agents” enter any time and ideology and wraps the Truth in a fitting cloak - to wake us up from sleep.
Sounds like a fraud.
Incomplete.
Seems like a chain smoker, not a good sign for a spiritual leader
Who, with respect for themselves, of the make part of the populace, did NOT smoke around the turn of that century? He also explains WHY he uses nicotine for certain gains.
Grace, miraculous and magic are accidents…trick is to take on practice’s that make you more accident prone.🪿