How to remove/bypass Bell Hub 3000 and use your own router
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- I have researched and found a way to remove Bell Hub 3000 and use your own router and get the full Fiber internet speed.
You will need to buy an extra piece of equipment - TP-LINK MC220L but I think in the end is worth it.
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pro tip: once you do this mod its possible to get free mid tier tv service with your own router providing you can find a bell tv box to register... and know the work around like me to register them... (ebay often has listings) as the tv boxes will get a 10.0.x.x ip address right from bell and not register to your 192 local net and address.
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An alternative for those that are wondering; you can use your router through the Home Hub 3000 by turning on DMZ and also checking Advanced DMZ. You will need to add your routers MAC address by typing it in. Note that there is a LAN MAC as well as a WAN MAC. You want the WAN MAC and you may have to look for it by logging into your router. The last digit is usually one digit or letter higher than the LAN MAC. Here's the part where myself and others got stuck; Plug your router into the Home Hub 3000 LAN1 port, not the WAN. After setting up Dynamic IP in the router, it finally obtained an IP address. Good luck.
PS. Thank you for your video. I may go this method at some point to move the radiation out of the room.
@Marius C
I purchased the same Router (RT-AC68U) and TP link module, everything works great! Thank you for rescuing me from the HH3000.
Much love from Scarborough
Hey man im from scarborough too! Im about to attempt the same thing hopefully it works out good for me
@@rushp9951 any problems let me know, I bought the same router he used and the tp link module I bought from Canada computers on Kennedy road
You guys rock. I am so glad that I could help so many with this.
Thanks Marius, followed your instructions and I'm now free of being stuck using that anchor called the Bell HH 3000. I replaced it with a ASUS Wireless AX5700. The software is great, lots of control and information. Thanks again Marius, great video.
Happy that it worked for you.
New to Bell Fibe... replaced the HH3000 twice already, found it to be very unstable at best. Within a month as a new Bell internet customer, had to perform a hard reboot several times as a standard practice so i was NOT impressed. Purchase the TP-Link as recommended, i hope you get rewarded when we do this. Your instructions were very straight forward and worked like a charm. Took a few minutes for the Bell network to connect... I will provide update how stable this new set up is, THANK YOU.
No reward just being happy that I can help. If you want you can subscribe but is all up to you. Thank you for the kind words.
@@abbashammoud7205 too soon to tell... so far VERY stable. i will comment with more details in a month or so.
VERY stable. It has been a month and the system was not rebooted once. Thank you again, Marius, for this public service.
@@montecristo9191 So that's the problem i was looking for, the 3000 bell routeur provoque instability connection, i will buy a netgear
i had problems and if was one of my rj45 had 1 inverted colors it still worked but made my system hang on heavy load.
Thanks for the video, and just another tip: If you change your speed (eg. from 150 to 500 Mbps). You are going to need to plugin it back into your Hub3000 and call tech support to do a reset. Once it's setup for the new speed, you can put it back into the TP Link switch. Cheers.
I didn't have to deal with support but I am glad your comment helped others.
I did this & im still getting 500mb download when im supposed to be getting 1 gb s
Any idea what i can do ?
I would like to thank you for this video. I purchased a TP-Link AX-3000 and the media converter. I followed your instructions and with the help of some of the comments, BOOM, I'm now online. A much, much better and snappier connection from all my devices. Again a huge thumbs up.
Really glad I could help.
For those with Bell Aliant (those in the maritime area) - they use DHCP rather than PPPOE. Be sure set it to automatic (rather than PPPOE) & set the authentication under account settings to none.
Good to know! Thanks for that, I'll be looking into this a bit further this summer.
I am in NS. Bell Aliant didn’t give me a B1 account. That’s because Bell uses DHCP in maritime area?
does that mean you can use any sfp? Or still have to use the one from home hub?
@@stingmao yep!
@@pizzasaurolophus I have no idea to be honest.
I just did this upgrade the other day, and wow, does it make a difference in space savings and reduced heat dissipation! If you want improved wifi and network performance, this is not for you. If you want better control over your network or just want to get rid of the Hub 3000 and useless hidden networks, this can be a fun project.
Great advice and step-by-step instructions in this video, except for the User ID and Password. User ID typically starts with bxxxxx and you may have to call Bell for the password if you lost or misplaced the original documentation that came with the Hub 3000.
Watch my other video how to change bell Password.
Damn finally it WORKED!!! I had to buy a crossover cable and I used the same advice has ppl that have comment for tp-link router thank you!
Reporting back, works like a charm. I was missing the VID settings on LAN and having issues, VID setting solved my issue. Thanks Marius!
You are welcome, glad you found it useful.
this is interesting I often wondered if the bell box was giving off radiation disrupting my sleep as ever since it was installed the energy felt different in the home, so now I am happy and will bypass that box and use your beautiful method, thank you good sir
I am glad that it was useful. Thanks for watching.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer yes I'll definitely be getting one of those devices as the bell 3000 home box does not have any way for a VPN as far as I can tell and I pay for one so it will be very useful not having to use my laptop for my tv every time on netflix to switch regions.
WOW worked first try !! The hardest part was to pull the SFP. Thanks so much
Hi guys, I was able to remove the Bell Hub 3000 for my internet plus I was able to make both my HD 4K Bell PVR and another Bell receiver. Too bad I can add a screenshot for the config on my
TP-Link AX6600 router. But VLAN ID:35 IPTV VLAN ID:36 make sure you assign to your Lan1 and Lan2 to IPTV (if you have 2 receivers, NOTE: only the receivers will work on that VLAN, no internet. other VLAN set to Internet. Cheers Thanks for the video that heloed alot.
can you link to the instructions? and will I need to install Asuswrt-Merlin firmware on the router for the VLANs to work? or do you use stock firmware?
I am glad you found a solution for the pvrs. Good job.
Nice video from a tech POV, but WiFi microwave spectrum is non-ionizing radiation and not known to be harmful. From a power spectrum PoV, it's kind of like being worried about Christmas tree lights causing cancer.
I got HH4000. How is its microwave effect, I do have my on router Asus Ax86u, but I don’t know how to disable wifi from HH4000 to work on my own router, thanks .
In settings you should be able to turn wifi off or maybe there is a button. Then connect your router with a cable to one of hub ethernet port. And then just sd your bell credentials in your router pppoe.
The exact procedure worked for me - thank you! Toronto
Hi, Im presently on Fibe 300 and don't use the HH2000, but use two Asus 86U in mesh setup connected to the Alcatel Lucent ONT. I inquired about going to the Bell Fibe 1GB/s package. They said they will take away the ONT and provide with HH3000 garbage. SO I'm looking for solution to ditch the HH3000 before I commit. Question - what is the type of SFC module that is inside the HH3000? I heard rumours it is a 2500Base-XX (2.5GB/sec) type. The concern I have is the TPlink MC220L may not properly handle this SFC module and I won't get the 1GB/s speed. Can anyone confirm the bandwidth they are receiving using this TPlink solution on the Gigabit Bell Fibe package. So sense in going to the 1.5 Gigabit package as it's too much for the MC220L.
Additionally, can the SFC module be changed for a 1000Base? Or are these SFC modules programmed in some way? I'm even considering going back to the ONT setup after the Bell tech leaves and ditching the HH3000 that way rather than the solution offered here. Thanx for any additional info anyone can provide.
I also see Asus has a new router (AX type) with a 10 GB/s SFC+ port. I wonder if something like that would work? Have to read more about it but it does seem interesting. I imagine it's big $.
Worked like a charm, thanks Marius! So happy I won't have to deal with changing all my router settings :)
Side Note: The password he is referring to is not your MyBell password or even your Bell HH 3000 pass, it's a separate one you can change on you MyBell profile.
I should link here my other video with how to change your bell password.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer Great idea, add it to the description
Hi, how do I find the username and password you are talking about please?
Hello, thank you for the video. Quick question: What is the model number of the Huawei SFP they use?
I wish I could tell you but I don't have this setup anymore.
If I understand correctly this video assumes you have a fiber-optic connection coming to your house?
Can we bypass the Bell Hub 3000 if we have a standard copper wire connection coming to the house?
If so, do we need other equipment than was mentioned in the video?
If by copper you are referring to DSL you are correct. This procedure doesn't work. The only thing you can do is bridge the bell hub. Connect your router to one of the bell network ports and then you can set up your own router as in the video. Then turn off bell wifi from the configuration and that is pretty much it.
No. If DSL is what you have then the only thing you can do is to bridge the bell router and connect your own router to bell network port and then follow the video of setting up.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer Thanks Marius for your fast reply! I watched your video carefully. It is my understanding that even if I bridge the modem, there will still remain a constant wifi signal coming from the modem. Someone famous mentioned a signal of 900 mW/m2. I'm sensitive to such signals. Is there any other way to stop those signals?
Unfortunately no.
Recently had trouble with my HH3000, wifi just stopped working and it lasted all day. If I don't have Fibe or an sfp module in my HH3000, what would I do to setup my own router? From what I've gathered just plug in my second router into the HH3000, then follow the setup on the computer as shown in the video?
Yes that should do the trick.
lan 3 and 4 can be used to wire tv boxes to your own router. vlan 34 prio 4. i have my pvr wired to port 4, and all the other boxes on a gig switch then to port 3. incase anyone was wondering for tv setup.
you can even buy bells vap and connect it to 3 or 4 and then wirelessly connect their boxes (that support it) to their vap to your router. (the vap was used with the r1000h router that did not have dedicated iptv wifi ssid inbuilt)
do you have the pararmeter setting for LAN port 3 or 4? How about Bell home phone - did you try to make it work?
Hi Correct me if I am wrong but using any router with built in support for SFPs would accomplish the same result instead of buying the media converter correct?
I would think so, but don't take my word for it.
Can you make a video for the HH4000. Thus far I believe GSPON ones are blocked for PPPoE.
I don't have Hub 4000 but the procedure is not working for 4000 as the Spf module is untegrated and can't be removed.
From what i've read you have to passthrough pppoe via the HH4000. Plugging the routers WAN into the 10gig port on the HH4000 works like the spf module in the video, but you have to disable all other functions in HH4000 settings.
Am I to understand that I can use my VPN for geo location changes to eliminate sports blackouts??
Bell will know nothing of the change to my own router ?
Thank you for the great video. It was very informative for set up.
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* for those having a hard time pulling the SFP, out the little clip you pull, is also a key of sorts to unlatch the SFP.
I had to use a very tiny screw-driver to push on the little area under the clip to unhinged it. You'll see that it's moves up slightly to allow it to slide out easily if you find it stuck.
ok so should this be exact, or is it ok for on my setup the fibre cable is still connected to that module thing when I remove it from the home hub.
You need to open the plastic door to remove the module so the cable needs to be disconnected from my experience.
Does this cap to 1000mbps? For 1.5gbps plans do you need another converter?
Yes and it is more expensive.
Bell wants to send me a Gigahub if I change my internet package.
Currently using this setup, will this setup still work if I don’t take the new router out of the box?
If Bell let you use the old setup is fine. But probably they will want you to send the old hub to them. Also they have a white list with the registered modules so probably they will disable your hub3000 module.
Great video. The ASUS NT-12 router isn't in stock anymore. What is a good alternative?
I'm using GT-AC2900 now. Very good.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer Thanks. Maybe I don't understand routers. I am looking for a router that is not powerful like the ASUS NT-12. A router that will emit the lowest amount of EMF radiation. Do you know how the GT-AC2900 compares to the ASUS NT-12 for this purpose?
I have a Netgear Orbi AX4200 mesh system and ran into trouble. Firstly, I couldn't get my router to connect to the internet to sign in to change settings after installing the SFP module to the TP Link MC220L. I then attempted to change the settings for my router after re-installing the SFP module in the HH3000 but was unable to change the DNS Servers to Google's, as you demonstrated, nor was I able to change the IPTV settings. It doesn't appear that the Orbi settings allow access to these options. I referred to the Orbi user manual and countless forums and couldn't find the answer or a work around. I guess I'm stuck trying to out the HH3000 into PPPoE mode to see if that will eliminate double NAT for the purpose of installing a Firewalla Purple. Admittedly, I'm pretty bummed this process didn't work and approximately $500 in hardware (TP Link and Firewalla) probably can be used with my Orbi mesh system.
I did mentioned in the video that I have no experience with other routers. Sorry for your troubles, and you are right I couldn't find any settings for IPTV online for Orbi.
I can confirm this works with Virgin Mobile's internet too. Only thing that is difficult is getting the PPPoE password from their customer service, but beyond that all settings are exactly the same. I was able to set it up for my brother using the MC220L and an ASUS RT-AX88U. I'll be trying to set it up for myself with the media converter and a Nest WiFi next week.
hi, just wondering how did u get the pppoE password from the customer service
Thank you for sharing. Did you send the hub back to bell for a credit
At the end of the contract, I did send it back. I don't remember if it was a credit or not.
Great video, followed and worked like a charm, in usually not paranoid about this stuff but the radiation levels emitted by this thing is ridiculous.
Did you measure it yourself or?
My HH3000 doesn't have an SFP module installed. Does this affect anything, or should I simply follow all steps and skip steps related to the SFP module?
That means that you are on DSL. There is a phone cable going inside? If that is the case you can bridge the hub.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer Yes there is a phone cable going inside. I have a router attached and working with wifi. Is this good enough for things like servers and NAS?
Hi, I have the Bell Hub 3000 so far all is good. Could you tell me what can I get bypassing another router and using the MC220L?
You can use your own router to setup your own security, vpn, more control over devices, time schedule, logs etc. Olso the Asus router offers better wifi signal.
Nice article on how to remove the bell modem/router and get more control. The whole radiation thing though is utter silliness since though it technically microwave radiation it is so in name only as they are both slow low freq and power that you have more risk walking outside in the sun. You could get sick by climbing a broadcast tower and standing right in front of the antenna but that takes a major degree of crazy. This happens every time they announce a new bandwidth claiming its causing illness as they some how ignore that illness gets cure/vaccine but the signal remains unchanged. Not sure how they keep ignoring facts like diseases going away but stuff like 4ghz still being used and not realizing what that means.
If you experienced the tinnitus and headaches I do when exposed to a WiFi field you would not think it silly. Not everybody has the same sensitivities and it doesn't create an instant result like turning a light switch on and off. People don't believe in radiation health issues because it is inconvenient to do so. The fact that you're this dismissive illustrates your lack of understanding.
@@buzz464I quite literally work in the field and been doing so for a very long time lol. This nonsense has been going since 2g came out then 3g and so on. The higher the number the shorter the wavelength the less ability it has to penetrate the body. There the COSMOS study which is slated to go on for 20 to 30 years and what it found to date is removing the source of the signal nearly always doesn't remove the problem. It's like pointing the finger and saying this caused it without bothering to find out if it did or if it's even possible. Long story short 5g can't penetrate human skin let alone your organs or bones. The biggest problem with this is the fact people who worked in the industry for years on end and been exposed to far more 3g 4g and 5g then the laymen aren't reporting problems. Ohh and tinnitus causes are extremally well known and wireless signals are not one of them. Having you phone headphones up to loud can cause it and so on.
To further put a nail in the coffin we had 3g for roughly 41 years now. There are no 3g related illness, tumors ,conditions what so ever. 3g is a longer wave length signal then 4g or 5g and has more of a chance to penetrate the human body the the other two would. If 3g couldn't make you sick how the could the other two ?!! Basic high school science here the longer the wave length like say gamma the more ability to penetrate the body the shorter the less ability.
@@magnus33john Why do some people get cancer and others don't? If I were to follow your logic people who get cancer are imagining things as a way of getting attention. Some people are more susceptible to sunburns than others. I know for a fact that a WiFi radiation field makes me feel like crap. The hotter the signal the worse it makes me feel. I had to work in the Bell Light Box for a short time where for me the WiFi levels were excruciating. I fully acknowledge that electromagnetic hypersensitivity is a somewhat rare condition. Usually when I tell others about this they are dismissive and skeptical. Why me? This is due to inflammation which comes with age, diet and overall health. I tried our friends replacement fix for the Bell Home Hub 3000. It was a no go. I have solved the problem by putting the HH 3000 in a microwave oven which is a great RF shield.
@@buzz464 Your reasoning doesn't fall any logic or basic science. So you think that hub makes you sick but the minute you walk out the door your exposed to far more at wifi at a much higher intensity yet your fine outside. Not to say someone cant be electromagnetic hypersensitivity but wifi not going to be the cause. Anything with lots of electricity going through it can generate a field and people can and do react to it depending on how strong it is.. Overhead power lines. bad house wiring, poorly shielded power supplies and so on can cause them. 5g wont penetrate you skin but a strong enough electromatic field can do so. The bell light box does have wifi but no more so them most commercial places these days. What it does have is a crap ton more lights, projectors, sound system ,wiring and so on. Far more then the average commercial place has and generating a stronger electromagnetic field. Lots of devices are poorly designed with little to no shielding, power bricks, many commercial routers, cheap monsters or tv and so on.
I'd really like to do this because the Hub 3000 doesn't support Bridge Mode and I'd like to have NAT Loopback (The Hub 2000 has some kind of Bridge Mode - but I upgraded to the real fibre recently). I'm using an Apple Airport router. I can't find anything about the IPtv setting. Is this a requirement? Any ideas on how to handle it in this setup? Many thanks for this.
If you want to do this you need to tag VLAN to 35 at least in Ontario. Depending on your router this setting might be in another location. On Asus routers is in IPTV section.
Can you tell me the SFP model number? I'm having issues finding the right one that works with TP-Link MC220L.
You need the one in the bell hub. That one is white listed on their network. I never tried another SFP module. Unfortunately I went on business account and they took away hub3000.
@@Outdoor_WandererAh. I have the Bell Hub4000 so I'm SOL.
Hey buddy do you think this would work on Virgin? they use the same modem and was wondering do you think it will work?
Check if Virgin cable is the fiber optic cable. If so it might work. But I think that Virgin is using a phone connection and is up to 150. In this case this will not work.
I found your next video, how to connect EBOX to a GIGA HUB 4000 ;)
We got the 1.5 gbps speed from bell. Its only sending up to 250 mbps max on our devices. If I were to do this will it increase the speed more than 250mbps? I feel like bell’s hub 3000 is limiting the amount of down and upload being sent to our devices? What do you think?
It depends on the router and the devices connected. Look at my GT 2900 compared to ac1900p and you can see the speeds. Also depends if you are connecting to 2.4 or 5ghz band.
Foarte tare tutorial, merci mult!
Cu multa placere!
I wanner how to do the same for Bell Hub 4000, do you have any plan to share it?
Is not possible with 4000 becsuse the module is integrated.
TP Links has the AXE16000 router that comes with a SPIF port now, can I just buy that and skip the switch?
I would think so. You can try before buying the switch.
Hey i was just wondering : i have BELL HH2000 ... can i plug fiber cable with SFP adapter on my udm pro ? many thanks
Check my other video on hub2000 may be will be more help.
Fibre isnt available in my area but they used the dsl cable rj11 type. So how do I convert that to feed into my new router?
I don't think it is possible. Dsl(phone) adaptor is integrated. The only thing you could do is bridge, connect your router to an ethernet port on hub 3000, and set up your router as per video. Bell accepts 2 PPPOE connections and then turn off wifi on Bell router.
From the converter can you put a switch then use the bell home hub for tv and use Ur own router on the other port?
I don't think so but interesting point. Although if you follow the pinned post, the guy was able to connect wired bell tv recivers with a 34 tag port.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer so then you can use the receivers with your own router? I have the Asus gs ax 3000 router
I would think so based on his comments.
i was wondering is there way to use the HomeHub 3000 as router again to enable VOIP service to work by trying to pass LAN from the current router to WAN of HomeHub 3000 to use the VOIP service, i mean to say what are the configuration to get it working.
is there an increased risk/vulnerability to outside hacking if you just use your Asus router instead of the Bell provided modem AND router?
Not that I know of. Asus had a vulnerability in the firmware a while ago but it was fixed. Other than that if you setup your router correctly there is no advantage of having bell router over Asus.
bell coming this sat I have asked for the Home Hub 3000 as I want to pull the transceiver out and use my tp link converter but they are now installing the Home Hub 4000 as their latest product so if they wont provide the 3000 or a sfp transceiver, i will cancel the install. I do not want their box for a myriad of reasons. The 4000 has a fixed transceiver I believe?
So yeah, it's looking like the module is soldered to the board. I guess you can connect the 10g port to your router and create a second pppoe and turn bell wifi off, like a bridge.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer I have bell fibe internet without the 3000 now using a 10Gtek media converter but speed is weird, 80 download and 114 upload should but paying for 150/150 had to muck with the MTU and using ftp now is so slow......not happy so far may switch back to cogeco cable internet
Great video, thanks for doing that. I am in the process of setting up a network with the Unifi products. I have a switch that has a SFP port. Would I still use the TP-Link converter via the router (router connects to switch), or could I connect the bell fiber and SFP directly to the switch? Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks Marius.
If the switch has an sfp port it should work by plug in the bell sfp. But I don't know if there is any other settings to make in the switch config.
joe t Did you manage to get that to work? I tried with my UniFi USG-PRO-4 but was only able to allow the internet VLAN35 therefore was not able to use it for IPTV. It works fine if only for internet though. I’ve since upgraded to the UDM-PRO and have yet to try it on it since I no longer have BELL...
Nicholas Boudreault hey. I am using the USG and a unifi switch. I haven’t been able to do it for internet (Vlan35) as I’m just not technical enough to be honest. I need someone to walk me through it. I’ve read quite a lot of threads on reddit where lots of folks seem to be able to get both internet and tv.
Im trying to bypass my HH3k to UDPro as well. Not sure what the setting should be but I am plugging my SFP dirrect into the DMpro and cant get past the setup screen. It keeps failing
Does this actually increase your wifi capabilities?
I ha e the home hub 3000 for internet only, and the wifi is terrible. Supposed to support up to 75 wireless device yet everything is constantly freezing or extremely slow.
If the router you are using is capable of course.
Interesting video. I also have Bell fibre to the home. However, the installer brought a Nokia Fibre-to-copper converter, plugging the Cat5 cable from the Nokia device to the WAN port on the home hub 3000. If you have the same setup, you can just plug your own router into the same cable that goes to this wan port.
Maybe they watched my video!!! Lol..
I have been delayed for the installation because there is a problem on the line outside... but the tech also had a nokia DPON to SFP adapter which i'll plug into my sfp to ethernet converter and right into my PfSense Box. I might eventually upgrade to a PfSense Box with an embedded pcie SFP+ adapter.
Thanks for the video. I’m about to get Bell Fibe 1000mbps and home hub 3000 so will be trying out your instructions. I’m curious what your speed is up/down with this setup? Is it faster or slower speed than just using the HH3K? Is the TPLimk converter solid? There are no issues with it?
HH3k provides you with up to 1.5k up and down. you cant cheat for more then your paying for as it a profile on there side. but you need to be wired in to get those speeds with a eternet cord that supports those speed search online for the RJ-45 CATXX (CAT5E or CAT6 for example) of your cable usually printed on it. and your computer network card needs to support them to.
wireless is limited by the technology and your environment. so about 60mbps on 2.4ghz and 300mbps on 5ghz in a good environment at short range. so your unlikely to see any difference on wifi as they follow standards.
the only time i would recommend using your own router is if you know what your doing and want more control then the modem provided gives you. as every time you call them for help you will have to switch back to the HH3k as they won't troubleshoot unless they can run there test on the line saying your using unsupported equipment..
Wazii Hara I currently have a homehub 1000 which I’m doing pppoe bypass on with my Linksys router. I’m upgrading to 1gbps fibe next week and will be getting a HH3K. So I’m already trying to figure out how to bypass it. The method shown here in this video looks great and it is readily discussed here as well: www.dslreports.com/forum/r31118482-Yes-you-CAN-bypass-the-HomeHub-3000~start=3300. The issue is that many report a degradation in speed. Some are paying for 1gbps, but only actually get as low as 400-800 gbps, while getting 950 gbps when using HH. So am wondering what others have seen in terms of bandwidth after installing this tp link converter. I will be doing a wired speed test before and after bypassing the HH to see what my speed loss is. Am wondering if others have done the same?
@@glenshortliffe for you and others who read, the bell SFP is 2.5GB, while all media converters are 1GB, this means there is a speed mismatch and you'll most likely get 50% of your bandwidth. There's no real solution out there other than expensive enterprise grade gear that can do 2.5GB sfp ports.
Hello thx for the video it helps do you need to get the extra devise if the router already has a SFP port on the router such as the asus RT-AX89X for instance
I would think not.
My SFP Module goes into a Nokia ONT. My HH3000 is downline from there. Can I still accomplish this?
Assuming the connection from ONT is ethernet, then you don't need a media converter at all. Just a router that allows you to tag VLAN 35 on its WAN port (from ONT) and allow login to Bell with PPPoE using your Bell username/passwd.
Does the Bell Home Hub 2000 have the same radiation issue as the Hub 3000? Bell will connect a Bell Fibre Optic cable into the Hub 2000.
I am not sure about that.
In my case the bell 2000 came with another piece of equipment which is the converter plus battery.
Hi Marius , any way to show us how to configure with bell fibe tv?? I have a netgear x500 and just purchase the switch but if I do your set up I lose my tv ??? Thanks in advance
I don't have bell tv so I wouldn't be able to test.
Did you figure this out Martin
Samer Serhan no I haven’t I am still testing ways I found on dsl report but no luck I am a newby when it comes to networking ....
So is it possible to use the bell modem with a different wifi to extend the range for example?
If your router supports extender mode for sure. Any router should have this function but I am not sure what is yours.
Marius, im trying to do this with a Linksys Velop router - Logging into the modem via is IP, i cannot find many of your steps from 9:16 onwards. It just doesn't have any of these options. Please help!!
I have never owned a Linksys router. Sorry, I don't know anything about their UI. Did you try Google it? www.linksys.com/ca/support-article?articleNum=205502
Will this work on the newer Giga Hub model, thanks?
No. The new one has the adapter soldered on the board.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer Thanks, that’s too bad
Do you have a video or instructions on how to turn off WiFi on my Home Hub 3000 and replace it with a TP-Link AX90 or similar wireless router?
First you can just connect your router to Bell router and follow video for PPPoe password setup. Setup network name different from Bell wifi name and you have your own network. Bell accepts 2 concurent PPPoe connections. Then you go into Bell router advanced settings and turn off wifi. Give it a try and let me know how it goes.
Is the IPTV setting only needed for people with a TV package, or is it needed for Internet-only use? Thanks!
For internet too. I only have internet not tv.
Thanks, exactly what I was looking for.
Worked?
I have bell fibre but my router doesn’t have that part instead there are two phone cables connected in the router. Is this still an issue or ?
It means that you have DSL and not Fibe. If you have an optical cable in the router then that is Fibe.
Thanks for the video and comments. I bypassed HH 3000 using Gigabit Ethernet converter (1.25Gb/s) and Asus RT-AC87U. I have 1.5Gbps bell connection and the highest download speed I have seen is 360mbps. Is this kind of disparity normal these days? (given people working from home/ kids on online schools, generally increased internet usage). I have used all settings as advised in the video. thanks!
If any QoS is set then hardware acceleration is switched off. Maybe that's the case?
@@Outdoor_Wanderer im in niagara area, fiberoptic is at the main local terminals But not to each home, using a basic telephone jack connector to a bell hub without a optical module in the 3000 router
I switched from gigabit to 1.5 down plan… mistake? Do I need a 10g converter? Thoughts on hh4000? Pls help
Yes you need a faster converter. Hub 4000 can't be used with this procedure.
If you use the media converter, do i still need a modem or can i use just use media converter n router ?
No modem, just your router.
I am currently using the Home Hub 2000 and I am sick of the lack of functionality I have with regards to network settings and other things like unstable connections.
Does this process work for the Home Hub 2000?
Yes it does but my Hub 2000 came with a separate media converter. It was for business and Bell also sends a media converter. So I am using their media converter but not their hub 2000.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer Thanks alot Marius!
would this work on virgin internet as well? i know someone who tried but it didnt work.
If they have optical with the sfp module it should work.
Very informative video, I have recently bought 1.5gbps connection from bell. Any suggestions on media converter which can give more then 1gbps lan? Also connecting this sfp on a SFP+ 10gbps converter works? Thanks.
It should work if you connect to a 10gbs converter. But is your router able to put out on ethernet port more than 1 gbs?
@@Outdoor_Wanderer Yes you are right I need 10 gbs converter, can you please recommend me any media converter with SFP to 10 gbs please... yes I do have 10 gbs Lan card on my PC and Router (TP-Link WiFi 6 AX6000) which has 2.5 gbps WAN port.
I can't recommned any as I am not using it. But if you search for 10gbs media converter, they are around 1000$ on amazon.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer Thank you so much for your time to reply, really appreciate it.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer Just found this www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07G3FM811/ref=ewc_pr_img_1?smid=AIXNQJPBDX8GX&psc=1 can you please see and advise will this work?
Hi i know this isn't really related to this video but is the home hub 3000 wifi 5 or 6?
Wifi 5, wifi 6 is only for the HH4000
My homehub does not have a optic fiber cable plugged into the SFP. Do I need it for my router?
Then you have DSL. This method doesn't work for that.
I have both Bell Fibe internet and Fibe TV. Where can I find instructions on how to wirelesly connect the Fibe TV boxes to the non-bell router?
I am not sure if it will work, I don't have tv boxes from Bell and I don't subscribe to Bell tv service. But you can try tagging LAN4 to 36 and connect the tv box with wire to lan4 port on the back of the router. Or you can connect a switch to the back of the router on lan4 and connect as many boxes to that switch. Or you connect an internet powerline adapter to lan4 and then another powerline adapter in another room and connect box to that. Don' t take my word for it but if you can return the powerline adapters to bestbuy you could try.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer vlan 34 is iptv with prio 4. where wan is 35 prio 0. 36 is for business voip phones. you cant connect their boxes directly to own router over wifi. only wired with vlan tagged port. if you want wifi, you need to buy the bell vap used with their original r1000h router tag a lan port 34, and connect the vap to it, wifi the boxes to that vap.
I think Bell throttle my streaming (Plex) during evening time here in Toronto. Will it avoid Bell from this throttling by bypassing their Hub 3000?
With Plex there are many variables in play. Server transcoding, client etc. I would check plex log first. If it is just local streaming I don't think BellHub does to much. If it is Plex internet channels then again you have to take it step by step. I have Plex on a Desktop server and around 4 clients in the house( roku and cast) and it is good but sometimes when my desktop doesn't start in overclock mode then Plex suffers.
Marius, do you have a procedure for the HH4000?
Hub4000 has the module integrated and it can't be removed. This procedure doesn't work with 4000. You will have to use 4000 with your own router if you want by bridge method. And turnoff hub wifi.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer bell got "smart" to our hackarounds and built it in.... all in a bit for greed/control. i suggest calling bell and demanding a hh3000 or you will cancel service. that usually does the trick.... get the 4000 swapped to 3000 then do this swap/replace with the 3000.... i got new tv boxes this way. i had the vip1200 tv boxes original to fibes release. complained enough and got them switched to the vip2262 wired boxes. then i went online ebay and bought my own boxes and registered more on my own.
I will be getting the Home Hub 4000 soon. Does the Bell Hub 3000 procedure work for the Hub 4000? Does the Bell Hub 4000 also have the high levels of microwave radiation?
It doesn't work for 4000. 4000 has the module integrated and cannot be removed.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer thank you. Does the 4000 have less microwave radiation?
that UPNP configuration Allowed internal port range 1024 to 65535 and Allowed external port range 1 to 65535 you created yourself? is port forwarding?
Nothing extra than what is in the video.
I need help Mario. I have the RT-AC68U router and purchase the MC220L. I do the same setting twice but don't have an internet connection. I don't know where is the problem?
Make sure that password is correct. Look at the router logs in administration. Reset the router to factory. And do it again. It is working, just looks at how many succeeded. Use Merlin firmware.
What could I be doing wrong? I bought the Asus ZenWiFi AX6600 and the TP Link MC220L(UN) Ver 4.0. Configured the WAN with PPPOE, 1492 MTU (can't go higher than that), added the correct Bell Internet password and set VID to 35 for the Internet. It won't connect to the Internet. Appreciate any insight
It should work, try to reset the router to factory default. Maybe you can install Merlin firmware?
@@Outdoor_Wanderer Thanks Marius. I'll research on Merlin firmware, am not too tech savvy. Will let you know how it works out. Thanks again
Hello Marius,
Thank you for the video and instructions. I have the exact same setup, HH3000 and bought the exact switch off amazon. I also have an Asus router with the setup wizard identical to yours. I have gone through these steps multiple times with no connection. The only thing I couldnt do exactly as you showed was changing the MTU and MRU values to 1500. The highest it allows me is 1492 but otherwise same exact setup but no connection. PLEASE HELP
It should connect. Did you check if password and user are correct? Can you download Merlin firmware for your Asus router? Or maybe do a factory reset?
@@Outdoor_Wanderer thanks! It worked but after I purchased a new Asus router. I guess my old one was too outdated because it didn't work after factory reset and Merlin Software was not even available for that model lol. But after all, great video and thank you !
@J K: Which Asus router are you running? Just trying to do my research here before switching ISP. My Asus Asus RT-AC86U (ASUS firmware 3.0.0.4.384_82072,
Signature version 2.196 Updated : 2020/09/03 03:02).
@@BrownBullhead I'm using the Asus RT-3100 on the latest firmware
@@robertbrown6637 No sir. It worked straight out of the box. I believe any newer model router should work. Mine was pretty old. Good luck !
Hi Marius I'm in Toronto, I have a netgear orbi router with satellite pod. I managed to get this running but my wifi signal got weaker for some reason. I'm wondering if I missed something with the settings. I was able to find the vlan setting, but not the mtu, nat or Qos settings. How about dns, is it importan to have it set up with google or auto?
Dns doesn’t matter to the wifi signal. It is just how it routes the req for that website you are looking for. Also wifi signal has nothing to do with this instalation. Wifi is just between your router and your device. Did you check on a hardwired pc?
@@Outdoor_Wanderer yes it wotked on a hard wire PC. I also noticed that chrome started acting funny. It would start warning me about insecure websites for many websites I use that have no security issue. Not sure what that's about.
Multumim frumos Marius !
Cu mare placere!
How does this work if I have DSL and no optical Cable? My home hub connects via 2 WAN ports coming from the wall.
This only works if you have Fibe(optical).
Help I'm using the tp-link with a netgear router
The router setting are not the same but I try to do the same and cannot get internet
I thinkbthere are people in the comments who succeed with netgear but I don't know how to setup for netgear. You will have to research on the net about IPTV setting on that router.
Do you think by using a Cat 7 Ethernet Cable would be faster than a Cat 6 cable?
Not necessarily. Depends on the cable length. Up to 100m runs cat6 is good.
i have question cause on my ps4 the wifi is so slow is there a way with bell i can send all the signals to my ps4
I don't know a way to direct all your signals to ps4. You can put it on 2.4g and make that only available to ps4.
DNS code 1.1.1.1 secondary 1.0.0.1 will boost your internet dramatically
Jason Durula why is that?? I’m new to this so thanks in advance
The first 2 generations of the PS4 are known to have a terrible wifi connection. The only way to get a reliable connection is with a wired connection
worked great, thanks!
You're welcome!
Does anyone have a solution that links the sfp+ port at 2.5Gb? For those of us on 1.5Gb service?
same here. looking for a 1.5G solution
There are some devices but are very expensive.
Can you do a video on the 4000?
Unfortunately 4000 can't be done with this procedure because the module is not removable. The only thing you can do is to have a bridge mode with your own router connected to the 4000.
@@Outdoor_Wandererthank you. I'll put it in bridge mode as I currently have a TP-link deco system hooked up to it.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer working on my (hopefully last) Bell video in the fibre series I've done. I'd like to use a very small part of this specific video for a quick example (with credit to you obviously) and a link to this video. Can't find another way to contact you, but would that be ok with you? If not, totally understood. Let me know and thank you!
Sure np. Go ahead.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer You rock sir, thank you kindly!
I am looking to do this very thing, is it possible with an Eero 6 system ?
I am not sure, I don't have experience with that system.
Do I need to install the merlin f/w before doing any of this?
I did it with Merlin installed but I think Asus firmwarr works too.
I just moved into my new home in Niagara Ontario. The entire house is wired with ethernet (built in 2018). I currently have bell as my ISP and am paying for 1000mbps download speeds but my devices never reach that speed over wifi so I would like to connect to my ethernet. As of right now, when I plug in an ethernet wire into the CAT6 port in my bedroom wall to my device (or any other room), I get no wired internet connection. There's a bunch of blue wires in my basement next to a patch panel, but my modem is on the main floor. I have already reached out to Bell, they've said this is outside of their responsibility.
I would like to setup a more robust home networking but not sure how to do it on my own, even after exhausting countless hours watching RUclips videos on the subject. Do you have a video on how to hook up everything for me e.g. routers, switches, access points, etc. Do I have to move my hub3000 to the basement? Is there a main wire that would connect to the modem and provide internet over ethernet for my entire house? The fibre optic cable seems to be coming from the main floor living room, is that also movable ?
I would like something very similar to what's shown in this video: ruclips.net/video/-L1eI4vECo4/видео.html
With the video setup only media converter has to be where optical cable cones into your house. Then you can connect your own router through an ethernet cable to the converter and your router can be where you want to put it as long as the cable reaches. It has to be a cable fault if you don't get connection through cables, maybe they wired the wrong way in the walls. Take out the plug in the wall and check how cable is done. You can just redo endings and see if that works.
do i need a crossover cable from the tp link module ethernet port to the asus router WAN port?
Regular network cable.
@@Outdoor_Wanderer ok thanks
hi, i have tl-r605. but i dont have iptv in the config and, i juste have alt-tv. i was config all that you show in the video but dont work.. this router can support this manipulation? need i an asus wrt or my router can support ? i have the same adapter mc220l .. and i has change the sfp on the router that run good in an other modem hub3000 and its work. the probleme is the router so?
alt-tv with fibre 50
You have to tag port 35 somehow. I can see that in the basic functions there is an IPTV menu. In the custom mode inside IPTV maybe. In tplink website, configuration guides for your router it is specifically explain how to tag vlan if you use iptv.
Do you have a video on how to use your own router (i.e. Nest Wifi) along with Bell Hub 3000?
No sorry, but I guess you disable HUB wifi and put the Hub in bridge mode.
I don't have a video - but, I've done this already. I basically feed the ethernet from the Bell ONT, into a small 4-port VLAN switch, first. On that switch, I split VLAN 35 and 36 traffic to two separate ethernet ports. VLAN 36 from my 4-port VLAN router goes to the Bell Router, where I've shut everything on it off except IPTV - DHCP, Wifi, Internet, etc. VLAN 35 for internet, I connect to my own router. I've had this setup for many years now.
Thank you!
With The bell Hub 3000 i never get my 1k 1k speeds should i buy a router that can support this
Only if you have issues with the HH3000 and want to use a better router with advanced functions. What speed are you getting connected directly to HH3000 with LAN cable? Also make sure your network card in computer is gigabit AND the LAN cable is capable of gigabit transfer. CAT5E is gigabit MAX. Test with both a 5E and 6 cable. Network Card or Lan cable may be the limiting factor.
@@christopherwereley2116 i pay for 1gb speed and get 1gb while plugged in with ethernet but over wifi i cant get more than 300mgbs. Is there a way to get 1gb over wifi?
@@Iamtherealsun AX/wifi6 will get close. The problem is most devices (phones/laptop etc) don't have wifi network cards capable of 1gbps
With Wifi 6 you will not get that speed. Theoretically wifi 6 has 1200Gbs, but that is in perfect condition with no blocking, interference etc. And on top of that wifi 6 it is still half duplex. So in theory you could see 600 Mbs. With OFDMA, you only need to divide the 20Mhz channel into 2Mhz subchannels. It is still half-duplex and can be thought of as a half-duplex switch with shared bandwidth.
will this work for virgin canada?
Depends on what router they give you. If it is optic fiber and you can extract the module it should.