I went to 3gb only because I was able to get a deal where it was 30$ less then what I was paying for 1gb. I hate the GigaHub so much but I live in an area where bell is really the only choice.
Gotta say: Bell has been better than Rogers... when you can get the service in your area. After years of giving Bell the finger, I went back... best decision I made ... till i moved and had to go back to Rogers... #iwantmybellback (cannot believe im saying this)
Whatever you do, don’t use a password you use anywhere else with Bell (as you saw in the video I’m assuming) 🤦🏾♂️ It’d be nice if Rogers stepped up, and makes this a real competition. I don’t think they will, but it’d be nice to see it.
interesting as usually! on the part about the Gigahub having issues, honestly I've never got any problems with it. I had it at 2 homes and it always has been fine on the stability (only the wifi is weak lol)
i'm happy with my 3gb service. they offered to give me 8gb for the same price, instead I got a discount to keep 3gb. It was funny, the day they started digging in my neighbourhood for the infrastructure I went out to the contractors and told them to just dig to my house because I'm getting it day 1. They just went "oh, okay" and dug over from the junction box. Everyone else on my street has cable strung up over trees and stuff so I'm laughing. I unfortunately have to run cat6e cable around the house to my 2.5gb nics because im too lazy to cut holes and get up in the roof. I have a 2.5gb unmanaged switch that runs to my gaming machine in the living room and a tp-link archer ax-90 for wireless. I hate the pods, they are garbage. even if rogers could offer me something similar or better for the same or better price I wont go, I cant stand those jackholes.
Few years back, Bell started expanding in my area... never really got a good chance to join. This year I had a door knocker, happened to get 1.5gb for approximately the same price ($55) as what I was paying ($50ish) 50mb with my cable package from a 3rd party service provider. This doesn't appear to be under a ~2 year contract. The giga modem was also paid outright with a setup credit. So I guess I won't need to return it to Bell or have rental fees later in life.
Yeah they’re super aggressive in the pricing which is awesome. Hopefully you don’t get hit with fees down the road. But with the CRTC forcing them to share their networks, they have to remain competitive. Great deal you got!
It’d be nice if they would say. But sadly no. And to be honest, if they did give a date, Rogers would just use the fact that they already have it, and have had it for a very long time, to market against Bell.
I'm a sysadmin, you're right and people massively over purchase what they need, even more so than you explain. 500mbps is still ideal for even big/busy homes. Gaming usually uses ~10mbps. Downloading new games and updates are faster usually up to 1gbps. 4k is ~25mbps, so 10 people streaming 4k is 250mbps.
@@Driver0808657 while I’m not a sysadmin, I do appreciate the insight of this comment. I think it comes down to a lot of people thinking they need more when they’re not optimizing their network to take advantage of the bandwidth they do have available to them (which would lead to buffering / slowdowns) Good practices especially for wifi like choosing a channel nobody else is on nearby with a wifi scanner utility, or making sure the devices that are in question are not bogged down by bloat / software that’s slowing things down, tend to make a massive difference that is often underrated. Regarding games, the fastest I’ve ever seen Xbox Live hit is around 800 megabit and that was only for spikes of time. I think the uninitiated with networks, they could get a 3 gig plan and see slow Xbox downloads and wonder why. There’s a lot of hidden nuance to this whole network / bandwidth thing.
One thing about the Rogers outages - I am on rogers and was not effected. I run my own router with their provider equipment running in bridge mode and use my own encrypted DNS server - The last rogers outage a week or two ago was simply their DNS service going down. The connection itself was unaffected. Never use provider equipment as a router if you can help it and never use provider DNS
Same issue at my parents when it went out. I swapped the DNS on the ASUS router I have connected to their ignite modem which I set to bridge mode when they first moved into that house. Other outages weren’t DNS related and their network maintenance just seems really sloppy at best. Bell’s DNS is ok but I have better luck using CloudFlare for sure.
Hey techmixr I’m from Hamilton Canada and I live in one of those dreadful tall apartment buildings you speak of XD and I use crappy dsl and I notice when I game online I don’t experience lag but almost an input delay or visual noise that doesn’t seem right but then when I disconnect from the internet completely my games feel visually smooth and feel nice and snappy as they should I’ve been having this prob for a long time should I get fibre would that solve it or is it an electricity issue I always call isp and they say everything is fine on their end but I leterally can’t enjoy games at a competitive level because of that any help would be most greatfully appreciated maybe even discord if you didn’t mind but either way
I’d get a power conditioner of some sort (like a Tripp-Lite) and try powering your stuff through that first before switching ISPs. But….. if fibre is available in your building, switch to it lol. It’s miles better. And in some odd cases, older copper lines could be passing electrical interference- it’s unlikely and shouldn’t be possible, but weirder things have happened.
Thank you so much brother for getting back to me with a very good trial and error solution your a wise man I’m glad I found your Chanel do you have a discord
Trust me weird is almost normal now and I’ve seen some weird anomaly’s this wouldn’t be far fetched although a rare case I’m sure it is an old big building
hey buddy , hold onto the 8 gigabit.... bell isnt offering it anymore.... my buddy told me cause the crtc has made it manditory bell shares its fibre to third party.... they stopped offering the 8... now 3 is the only speed you can get.... anyone with 8 is grandfathered in and keeps there 8!!!! mine has been working pretty good... but as of a week ago im only getting 8 gbps down and 945 mbps up... tried rebooting my modem... switches etc.... tired on all my computers and cant get the 7600 upload i used to get!!! my buddy is coming over next week to check it out for me.... as having rock solid up down was nice!! my plex never skipped a beat...
Mine is still working properly. I did a community post about this earlier today actually (the 8 gig service being cut) but I’m almost tempted to do a quick blog style video about it. Maybe I’ll film it quick and upload tomorrow. Bell is wild.
That’s a fantastic question which I wish I could answer. If they offer fibre to the home in your neighbourhood- go for it! Bell has shown their service is more stable at this point, but the fibre to the home technology is miles better than old Bell copper and cable services. Reply back if you get it, it’s not available where I am and I’m genuinely curious about how well it performs!
You should try using a enterprise grade router like a Unifi dream machine special edition all though expensive they are amazing. Its more advanced then any conventional router but using one of them seemed to solve most of my problems with isp routers by using bridge mode on the isp modems and disabling DHCP. I'm not really familiar with bell since I'm from the west and most of us use telus fiber and only get speeds up to 3 gig. But telus has issues with bad isp routers too so turning all of those off worked. Anyways great video!
Sadly, it’s been documented in a lot of places that a lot of the UniFi stuff doesn’t do PPPoE well and chokes. Weirdly, the ASUS stuff seems to do it. But it shouldn’t have to be like this, PPPoE is so outdated and probably even insecure but Bell insists on using it. There is no bridge mode sadly, there’s this odd advanced DMZ (which is close) and PPPoE pass through. All because Bell doesn’t want to do a bridge mode because then, they can’t regulate how their wireless TV system works with their set top boxes. Rogers has a bridge mode and it’s dead simple. It just uses DHCP to give your router a public IP and done. Just like your Telus, which is the newer and right way to do this. PPPoE is so damn inefficient, and having these connections in our homes shouldn’t mean we need to buy enterprise gear, which in this case because it’s such an old protocol wouldn’t make a difference anyway. Sorry, just ranting. It’s so wild how stupid Bell actually is.
Which routers/OS's use multi-threaded PPPoE? I don't think OpenWRT/LEDE, Mikrotik or ubiquiti uses multi-threaded PPPoE... or I can't find confirmation, most of the threads die on the internet.
It seems like they list it as NAT acceleration (at least ASUS does) which I’m assuming is hardware level multi-threaded PPPoE. If I disable NAT acceleration, it pins my router’s CPU to the moon and can’t get over 2.5 gigabit. With it enabled, I get full 8 gig and maybe 3% usage across all cores.
@@TechMixr , turns out NAT acceleration is offloading NAT from the CPU (assumed it's offloaded to the switch chip). The additional overhead on the CPU can now be consumed by PPPoE which is why we see the performance increase. I think the mystery of multi-threaded PPPoE has yet to be solved.
@@roast54321 PPPoE is completely outdated sadly. We shouldn’t have to solve this at all. Rogers has us completely beat by using DHCP - it’s literally pathetic on Bell’s part to be doing the network this way.
I haven’t yet as I’ve been super happy with the ASUS setup. That doesn’t mean I won’t later in life, just a rabbit hole I’ve never explored. I’ve seen some cool stuff done with pfsense. Maybe one day 😊
Yeah, although I am satisfied mostly with Bell (compared to Rogers cable previously which was very unreliable) even on 3gb most sites e.g. Steam will download something like 150MB/s max (not even 1.5gbps) It's nice to have the buffer to not have slowdown from maxing the connection but beyond that 3gb or 8gb is not quite a reality because if you do sustained fast speeds (230+MB/s) beyond like 10 minutes it will kick you off the network for 5 minutes or so (long thread on dslreports about that). So if Steam actually delivered full speed it would likely kill your network temporarily if you tried e.g. downloading a bunch of games at once. There was speculation that gigahub causes it but it happens to people who bypass homehub too.
The video was already so long - I was testing the same issue with downloads - I didn’t bring it up also because I felt like I pummeled Bell in this video enough 😂🤦🏾♂️
@@TechMixrto be fair to Bell the average person wouldn't ever run into the problem but the gigahub flakiness is annoying for everyone. I reboot every 1-2 weeks when web browsing inexplicably starts getting slow
@@quidnunc01 ask for a 4000. Mine runs flawless. I can’t even fathom how they messed up the GigaHub so terribly. It still has the sustained download issue, but when I need to push like that, I just limit bandwidth and it seems to hold up at 200 MB/s
@@harleyme3163 I meant 200 MB/s I meant 200 megabytes per second, not megabit So my consumer connection is 8000 megabits per second (or 900 MB/s) I’ve hit that, for context, you can send a 4.7 GB DVD image in 5.2 seconds on 8 gigabit. 4.7 GB or 4700 megabytes divided by 900 megabytes a second is 5.2. 8 gigabit (or 8000 megabit service) is $155/ month from Bell at the highest rate. Deals are available. That’s if fibre to the home is available in your area and if 8 gigabit is an option. Hope this clear up the confusion. I know what you’re saying, but I’m going to guess that the idea of such a fast connection at home isn’t feasible, but it is 😊
Can you tell me how to get a constant latency connection with Xbox series X. If I do a detail connection test and it is 38 … I play one or two games of MW3 the next time I test it’s 103. We have Bell 3 G and the ASUS router…we took your advice. We get good speed but bad latency. Do you know what we are doing wrong?? Any suggestions??
The sad part is from what I read about this, it seems dependant on IP address. Rebooting everything should give you another IP address. It’s become luck of the draw. When Bell eventually gets IPV6 this should hopefully be fixed.
@@TechMixr I seem to have to reboot every day!! It’s so frustrating!! Not like I’m not paying an arm and a leg for Bell😡!! Hate Shaw but you could do more with their modems! Thanks for your help.
Hoping someone here can help me out… Just signed up with ebox fibe internet and was provided with a Nokia ONT XS-010X-Q and Nokia Beacon 2 router. I’m trying to use my nest wifi router and access points instead of the beacon but not having any luck. Has anyone been able to do this? Thanks in advance!
While I don’t have E-Box here’s my first thought. Plug the nest into the ebox ONT. Set the connection type to PPPOE and login with those credentials (you may need to get those credentials from customer service) and it SHOULD work. Again, I’m not an ebox customer but, they’re owned by Bell. So maybe. However, you may get worse speeds, as the nest may not support acceleration for PPPOE. The reason they’re pairing that wifi router with the ONT is for compatibility/ better bandwidth. Hope this helps, sorry I couldn’t assist any further. Good luck!
i think anything higher then 2.5 gigabit.. is enough right now... in the future higher speeds will totally be needed... But also the cost providing 5+ gig over Fiber at scale is Next to nothing.... say i've stated before i've future proofed my network with 10gig networking... But In the next 10 to 15 years 3gig to 5gig will probably be needed..... i haven't finished ur video.. but there could be away to bypass the bell hardware Using a custom Pf sense router
Which service are you on and do you need Wi-Fi 6E from the gigahub? I’d ask to be switched to a HomeHub 4000 as that seems to work well. Which router are you using via Advanced DMZ?
I heard about it but wasn’t sure if it was confirmed. Sure enough, not available in my area anymore. I have the service but you can’t locate it on Bell’s website with my address. They’re going to have to pry the service away from me from my cold dead hands 😂
@@disneyjayrides9035 2 things to try. Run a speedtest on your main wired machine while you have the router UI open and check the CPU usage. I think the CPU usage is pinning. (I noticed this because of the folllowing): First, reboot the router and see if you get the speed back. (your CPU usage on the router should be lower) -- if it fixes it, there's something plugged into your network that's causing it to trip the router out (In my case, it was a video processing unit I use in my home theatre) 2nd, and this part is annoying, try Advanced DMZ instead of PPPoE (so remove the Bell credentials from your router and try Advanced DMZ which will give you a public IP to the ASUS). The thing to note with Advanced DMZ (on the HomeHub 4000 I have - I assume the GigaHub has a similar issue). Switch the modem to Advanced DMZ, it will crash shortly after..... then, power down your router. Then the Bell equipment. Then, power up the router first, wait about 2-3 minutes, then power up the Bell equipment. The super annoying thing about Advanced DMZ is that, if you change anything on the router, that makes the router reboot, you'll have to power cycle everything in this order. To re-iterate a point from the video, if Bell would just stop insisting on PPPoE/ Advanced DMZ and gave us a f@#!ing bridge mode, none of this would be an issue. **sigh**...... hope this helps. I know how frustrating this is, BELIEVE ME.
So the Nokia device is offered by another company that Bell owns for their service. The other device (which I won’t name because I don’t endorse it because you could get kicked off the network for using it) seemed to work when I was testing it. The benefit was that you didn’t have all the extra bloated software Bell puts in their Homehub devices. As well, it doesn’t have any wifi which allows you to have a cleaner wifi setup with your own wireless router. Hope this clears that up!
For all of the outages they’ve been having the last few weeks, they need to offer free Internet. What’s been happening with them recently isn’t worth spending a penny on them.
Asus just came up with more powerful routers be98 or be98 pro it has quad core 2.6 Ghz, more powerful than your ax89x i think yours has quad core 2.2 Ghz, they also have wifi 7, they have 10g base t ethernet ports but no sfp+ cage
It’s been out for a while. To be honest - I’m only running wifi 6 at home and it’s been fine. I’ll wait until these first gen wifi 7 routers are gone and we see prices come down and better features show up. (By then, I may actually have wifi 7 devices)
@@Phil-D83 they no longer offer 8 gig to new customers. That being said, I’m paying a lot less with no contract and I’m probably never getting rid of it
@@Phil-D83 it was earlier this year. It’s not them allowing it, it’s the CRTC forcing them to do it. Also, with a bypass, it’s been easy to do opensense as a router for well over a year now.
@@gabiroli86 you still need to login via PPPoE. A true bridge would self authenticate via the hardware. The issue here is that if you buy consumer network equipment, it may not be powerful enough to handle routing and PPPoE frames that take a ton of overhead. If it were a bridge mode like Rogers (to be clear bridge mode and IPV6 are the only things they seem to get right while everything else is wrong) - then you could use it with almost any router without performance loss/ massive CPU usage.
Please check 2:45 - I get the full download speed. As far as upload, it may just be some server end settings on their end, but the equipment can easily do the speed.
@@TechMixr The first modem I had was said to be the issue because it didn't have the most recent firmware. It was exchanged for the same model, and after all the updates were applied, it had the same firmware version as the previous modem. If Bell is advertising symmetrical speeds, that is what they should deliver.
hmm.. I have the asus axe16000, couldnt be happier. Often my test speeds go above the 8 gig, I am in a new(ish) building so I think we have insulated cat5 wiring to all rooms. as for the price, we had a bell rep come to our building and offer insane packages, Im currently paying 45/month for the 8 gig service, plus bell tv with sports and movie channels. my monthly bill is literally 104/month. this will not go up, unless I decide to cancel my TV services within 12 months. Roger's pricing is a joke and even Beanfield cant compete with the speed and pricing. and yes, I do use every single bit of the 8 gig speeds, I do a lot of 3D/motion graphics and daily Im uploading/downloading folders that are over 200 gigs, ~ 7 minutes! the Gigahub is an issue, but personally I dont mind as long as I get the performance from my wired devices.
The AXE16000 was great for wired speed, no question. But the Wifi connection was terrible. I’m not in an apartment and I don’t have a lot of network congestion here, but I get between 550 and 850 on my AX89X and I couldn’t get over 275 no matter what I tried with the AXE16000. Maybe it was a lemon. I wish builders would do better than CAT5E. I have some of that in my walls and refuse to use it. I don’t need a computer or any device in that particular room (yet anyway) but it’d be nice if there was at least conduit 🤦🏾♂️
I went to 3gb only because I was able to get a deal where it was 30$ less then what I was paying for 1gb. I hate the GigaHub so much but I live in an area where bell is really the only choice.
Gotta say: Bell has been better than Rogers... when you can get the service in your area. After years of giving Bell the finger, I went back... best decision I made ... till i moved and had to go back to Rogers...
#iwantmybellback (cannot believe im saying this)
Whatever you do, don’t use a password you use anywhere else with Bell (as you saw in the video I’m assuming) 🤦🏾♂️
It’d be nice if Rogers stepped up, and makes this a real competition. I don’t think they will, but it’d be nice to see it.
interesting as usually! on the part about the Gigahub having issues, honestly I've never got any problems with it. I had it at 2 homes and it always has been fine on the stability (only the wifi is weak lol)
i'm happy with my 3gb service. they offered to give me 8gb for the same price, instead I got a discount to keep 3gb. It was funny, the day they started digging in my neighbourhood for the infrastructure I went out to the contractors and told them to just dig to my house because I'm getting it day 1. They just went "oh, okay" and dug over from the junction box. Everyone else on my street has cable strung up over trees and stuff so I'm laughing.
I unfortunately have to run cat6e cable around the house to my 2.5gb nics because im too lazy to cut holes and get up in the roof. I have a 2.5gb unmanaged switch that runs to my gaming machine in the living room and a tp-link archer ax-90 for wireless. I hate the pods, they are garbage.
even if rogers could offer me something similar or better for the same or better price I wont go, I cant stand those jackholes.
Few years back, Bell started expanding in my area... never really got a good chance to join.
This year I had a door knocker, happened to get 1.5gb for approximately the same price ($55) as what I was paying ($50ish) 50mb with my cable package from a 3rd party service provider.
This doesn't appear to be under a ~2 year contract. The giga modem was also paid outright with a setup credit. So I guess I won't need to return it to Bell or have rental fees later in life.
Yeah they’re super aggressive in the pricing which is awesome. Hopefully you don’t get hit with fees down the road. But with the CRTC forcing them to share their networks, they have to remain competitive. Great deal you got!
Congratulations on getting monetization. When you were talking to bell did they even mention when they will be giving bell customers IPv6?
It’d be nice if they would say. But sadly no. And to be honest, if they did give a date, Rogers would just use the fact that they already have it, and have had it for a very long time, to market against Bell.
Im with Telus over in Vancouver and with 3G and not one problem and for $95 a month i cant complain and btw keep up the intresting videos
Good catch on the Gigahub. Now I'm wondering how many takes it was to get it that perfect lol
BTS short maybe ……. Or maybe, it’ll be part of a review of something I used to make this video ……. hmmmmmm. Thanks for the compliment!
I'm a sysadmin, you're right and people massively over purchase what they need, even more so than you explain. 500mbps is still ideal for even big/busy homes.
Gaming usually uses ~10mbps. Downloading new games and updates are faster usually up to 1gbps.
4k is ~25mbps, so 10 people streaming 4k is 250mbps.
@@Driver0808657 while I’m not a sysadmin, I do appreciate the insight of this comment. I think it comes down to a lot of people thinking they need more when they’re not optimizing their network to take advantage of the bandwidth they do have available to them (which would lead to buffering / slowdowns)
Good practices especially for wifi like choosing a channel nobody else is on nearby with a wifi scanner utility, or making sure the devices that are in question are not bogged down by bloat / software that’s slowing things down, tend to make a massive difference that is often underrated.
Regarding games, the fastest I’ve ever seen Xbox Live hit is around 800 megabit and that was only for spikes of time. I think the uninitiated with networks, they could get a 3 gig plan and see slow Xbox downloads and wonder why. There’s a lot of hidden nuance to this whole network / bandwidth thing.
One thing about the Rogers outages - I am on rogers and was not effected. I run my own router with their provider equipment running in bridge mode and use my own encrypted DNS server - The last rogers outage a week or two ago was simply their DNS service going down. The connection itself was unaffected. Never use provider equipment as a router if you can help it and never use provider DNS
Same issue at my parents when it went out. I swapped the DNS on the ASUS router I have connected to their ignite modem which I set to bridge mode when they first moved into that house.
Other outages weren’t DNS related and their network maintenance just seems really sloppy at best. Bell’s DNS is ok but I have better luck using CloudFlare for sure.
Congrats on the monetization!
Paying $143 bundle for 8gb bell
Rogers was paying 185 for 1gb bundle
With taxes
Yeah their prices are out to lunch
Hey techmixr I’m from Hamilton Canada and I live in one of those dreadful tall apartment buildings you speak of XD and I use crappy dsl and I notice when I game online I don’t experience lag but almost an input delay or visual noise that doesn’t seem right but then when I disconnect from the internet completely my games feel visually smooth and feel nice and snappy as they should I’ve been having this prob for a long time should I get fibre would that solve it or is it an electricity issue I always call isp and they say everything is fine on their end but I leterally can’t enjoy games at a competitive level because of that any help would be most greatfully appreciated maybe even discord if you didn’t mind but either way
I’d get a power conditioner of some sort (like a Tripp-Lite) and try powering your stuff through that first before switching ISPs.
But….. if fibre is available in your building, switch to it lol. It’s miles better. And in some odd cases, older copper lines could be passing electrical interference- it’s unlikely and shouldn’t be possible, but weirder things have happened.
Thank you so much brother for getting back to me with a very good trial and error solution your a wise man I’m glad I found your Chanel do you have a discord
Trust me weird is almost normal now and I’ve seen some weird anomaly’s this wouldn’t be far fetched although a rare case I’m sure it is an old big building
@@keylokush I don’t have a discord but that may change soon …. 👀
hey buddy , hold onto the 8 gigabit.... bell isnt offering it anymore.... my buddy told me cause the crtc has made it manditory bell shares its fibre to third party.... they stopped offering the 8... now 3 is the only speed you can get.... anyone with 8 is grandfathered in and keeps there 8!!!! mine has been working pretty good... but as of a week ago im only getting 8 gbps down and 945 mbps up... tried rebooting my modem... switches etc.... tired on all my computers and cant get the 7600 upload i used to get!!! my buddy is coming over next week to check it out for me.... as having rock solid up down was nice!! my plex never skipped a beat...
Mine is still working properly.
I did a community post about this earlier today actually (the 8 gig service being cut) but I’m almost tempted to do a quick blog style video about it. Maybe I’ll film it quick and upload tomorrow.
Bell is wild.
@TechMixr are they going to bring it back or they making a 10gbs plan or we stuck using 3gbs speed
I’m going to explain this shortly. Keep an eye on the channel…. (I’ll reply to you here as well in a little)
@@TechMixr ok
Does rogers still offer 8gbs
Bell only has 100mb where I live which is what I have now. Rogers is offering FTTH symmetrical up to 8 gig. Probably gonna get 1.5 gig is it any good?
That’s a fantastic question which I wish I could answer.
If they offer fibre to the home in your neighbourhood- go for it! Bell has shown their service is more stable at this point, but the fibre to the home technology is miles better than old Bell copper and cable services.
Reply back if you get it, it’s not available where I am and I’m genuinely curious about how well it performs!
You should try using a enterprise grade router like a Unifi dream machine special edition all though expensive they are amazing. Its more advanced then any conventional router but using one of them seemed to solve most of my problems with isp routers by using bridge mode on the isp modems and disabling DHCP. I'm not really familiar with bell since I'm from the west and most of us use telus fiber and only get speeds up to 3 gig. But telus has issues with bad isp routers too so turning all of those off worked. Anyways great video!
Sadly, it’s been documented in a lot of places that a lot of the UniFi stuff doesn’t do PPPoE well and chokes. Weirdly, the ASUS stuff seems to do it.
But it shouldn’t have to be like this, PPPoE is so outdated and probably even insecure but Bell insists on using it. There is no bridge mode sadly, there’s this odd advanced DMZ (which is close) and PPPoE pass through. All because Bell doesn’t want to do a bridge mode because then, they can’t regulate how their wireless TV system works with their set top boxes.
Rogers has a bridge mode and it’s dead simple. It just uses DHCP to give your router a public IP and done. Just like your Telus, which is the newer and right way to do this. PPPoE is so damn inefficient, and having these connections in our homes shouldn’t mean we need to buy enterprise gear, which in this case because it’s such an old protocol wouldn’t make a difference anyway.
Sorry, just ranting. It’s so wild how stupid Bell actually is.
LOL at calling a Unifi dream machine an "enterprise router" that's a consumer piece of equipment.
Which routers/OS's use multi-threaded PPPoE? I don't think OpenWRT/LEDE, Mikrotik or ubiquiti uses multi-threaded PPPoE... or I can't find confirmation, most of the threads die on the internet.
It seems like they list it as NAT acceleration (at least ASUS does) which I’m assuming is hardware level multi-threaded PPPoE. If I disable NAT acceleration, it pins my router’s CPU to the moon and can’t get over 2.5 gigabit. With it enabled, I get full 8 gig and maybe 3% usage across all cores.
@@TechMixr , turns out NAT acceleration is offloading NAT from the CPU (assumed it's offloaded to the switch chip). The additional overhead on the CPU can now be consumed by PPPoE which is why we see the performance increase. I think the mystery of multi-threaded PPPoE has yet to be solved.
@@roast54321 PPPoE is completely outdated sadly. We shouldn’t have to solve this at all. Rogers has us completely beat by using DHCP - it’s literally pathetic on Bell’s part to be doing the network this way.
Have you considered building a opn/pfsense router and using your asus router as an access point?
I haven’t yet as I’ve been super happy with the ASUS setup.
That doesn’t mean I won’t later in life, just a rabbit hole I’ve never explored. I’ve seen some cool stuff done with pfsense. Maybe one day 😊
The beat at 14:40 goes crazy
Royalty-free music sometimes slaps 💪🏾
Thank you for the straight forward no bs.
No worries, thanks for appreciating the opinion!
Yeah, although I am satisfied mostly with Bell (compared to Rogers cable previously which was very unreliable) even on 3gb most sites e.g. Steam will download something like 150MB/s max (not even 1.5gbps) It's nice to have the buffer to not have slowdown from maxing the connection but beyond that 3gb or 8gb is not quite a reality because if you do sustained fast speeds (230+MB/s) beyond like 10 minutes it will kick you off the network for 5 minutes or so (long thread on dslreports about that). So if Steam actually delivered full speed it would likely kill your network temporarily if you tried e.g. downloading a bunch of games at once. There was speculation that gigahub causes it but it happens to people who bypass homehub too.
The video was already so long - I was testing the same issue with downloads - I didn’t bring it up also because I felt like I pummeled Bell in this video enough 😂🤦🏾♂️
@@TechMixrto be fair to Bell the average person wouldn't ever run into the problem but the gigahub flakiness is annoying for everyone. I reboot every 1-2 weeks when web browsing inexplicably starts getting slow
@@quidnunc01 ask for a 4000. Mine runs flawless. I can’t even fathom how they messed up the GigaHub so terribly. It still has the sustained download issue, but when I need to push like that, I just limit bandwidth and it seems to hold up at 200 MB/s
Mb per sec not MB (mega Bytes) dont wanna confuse a $20000 connection with a condumer one lol... ps we pay $40 for 5 mbps
@@harleyme3163 I meant 200 MB/s
I meant 200 megabytes per second, not megabit
So my consumer connection is 8000 megabits per second (or 900 MB/s) I’ve hit that, for context, you can send a 4.7 GB DVD image in 5.2 seconds on 8 gigabit. 4.7 GB or 4700 megabytes divided by 900 megabytes a second is 5.2.
8 gigabit (or 8000 megabit service) is $155/ month from Bell at the highest rate. Deals are available. That’s if fibre to the home is available in your area and if 8 gigabit is an option.
Hope this clear up the confusion. I know what you’re saying, but I’m going to guess that the idea of such a fast connection at home isn’t feasible, but it is 😊
Can you tell me how to get a constant latency connection with Xbox series X. If I do a detail connection test and it is 38 … I play one or two games of MW3 the next time I test it’s 103. We have Bell 3 G and the ASUS router…we took your advice. We get good speed but bad latency. Do you know what we are doing wrong?? Any suggestions??
The sad part is from what I read about this, it seems dependant on IP address. Rebooting everything should give you another IP address. It’s become luck of the draw.
When Bell eventually gets IPV6 this should hopefully be fixed.
@@TechMixr I seem to have to reboot every day!! It’s so frustrating!! Not like I’m not paying an arm and a leg for Bell😡!! Hate Shaw but you could do more with their modems! Thanks for your help.
Hoping someone here can help me out…
Just signed up with ebox fibe internet and was provided with a Nokia ONT XS-010X-Q and Nokia Beacon 2 router. I’m trying to use my nest wifi router and access points instead of the beacon but not having any luck. Has anyone been able to do this? Thanks in advance!
While I don’t have E-Box here’s my first thought.
Plug the nest into the ebox ONT. Set the connection type to PPPOE and login with those credentials (you may need to get those credentials from customer service) and it SHOULD work. Again, I’m not an ebox customer but, they’re owned by Bell. So maybe.
However, you may get worse speeds, as the nest may not support acceleration for PPPOE. The reason they’re pairing that wifi router with the ONT is for compatibility/ better bandwidth. Hope this helps, sorry I couldn’t assist any further. Good luck!
Give us proper bridge mode period.
Hope you watched the whole video because I’m so angry about the fact that they don’t 😂🤷🏾♂️
@TechMixr I agree on everything. Hit the nail on the head. PPPoE is meh but works with my Asus Ax6000. Surprisingly, it has never gone down yet.
@@TH3VID3OMAN and IPV6 missing is actually pathetic lol
i think anything higher then 2.5 gigabit.. is enough right now... in the future higher speeds will totally be needed... But also the cost providing 5+ gig over Fiber at scale is Next to nothing.... say i've stated before i've future proofed my network with 10gig networking... But In the next 10 to 15 years 3gig to 5gig will probably be needed..... i haven't finished ur video.. but there could be away to bypass the bell hardware Using a custom Pf sense router
When you get to the part when I talk about bypassing, you’ll see why I won’t comment on this 😉
@@TechMixr yeah I see and I actually know the device although ubiquity makes one too if you know how to configure it any third party OTN should work
@@westtell4 us dslfolks all know it 😂 - just didn’t want to make a guide that could put me in hot water
The last 2 firmware updates have pretty much wrecked Advanced DMZ on my Gigahub. 🥺😩
Which service are you on and do you need Wi-Fi 6E from the gigahub? I’d ask to be switched to a HomeHub 4000 as that seems to work well.
Which router are you using via Advanced DMZ?
Well, the Bell 8Gbps service is no longer offered! I wonder why???
I heard about it but wasn’t sure if it was confirmed. Sure enough, not available in my area anymore. I have the service but you can’t locate it on Bell’s website with my address.
They’re going to have to pry the service away from me from my cold dead hands 😂
When will be available again are they going to bring it back
Are they making a 10gbs
i have the Bell 8GB but with the Asus Rog Ax16000 and only get speeds 4100GB Down and 900MB up not sure why speed are slow
Are you using PPPoE or Advanced DMZ to get a public IP to your router?
Ppoe
@@disneyjayrides9035 2 things to try.
Run a speedtest on your main wired machine while you have the router UI open and check the CPU usage. I think the CPU usage is pinning. (I noticed this because of the folllowing):
First, reboot the router and see if you get the speed back. (your CPU usage on the router should be lower) -- if it fixes it, there's something plugged into your network that's causing it to trip the router out (In my case, it was a video processing unit I use in my home theatre)
2nd, and this part is annoying, try Advanced DMZ instead of PPPoE (so remove the Bell credentials from your router and try Advanced DMZ which will give you a public IP to the ASUS). The thing to note with Advanced DMZ (on the HomeHub 4000 I have - I assume the GigaHub has a similar issue). Switch the modem to Advanced DMZ, it will crash shortly after..... then, power down your router. Then the Bell equipment. Then, power up the router first, wait about 2-3 minutes, then power up the Bell equipment. The super annoying thing about Advanced DMZ is that, if you change anything on the router, that makes the router reboot, you'll have to power cycle everything in this order.
To re-iterate a point from the video, if Bell would just stop insisting on PPPoE/ Advanced DMZ and gave us a f@#!ing bridge mode, none of this would be an issue.
**sigh**...... hope this helps. I know how frustrating this is, BELIEVE ME.
I got my Bell 4000 on" bridge mode" my unify rooter got the public IPV4 add
Advanced DMZ, PPPoE or do you have a business account?
I don’t know English not my local language but you mean Nokia hub better or huawei because bill have issues with software
So the Nokia device is offered by another company that Bell owns for their service. The other device (which I won’t name because I don’t endorse it because you could get kicked off the network for using it) seemed to work when I was testing it. The benefit was that you didn’t have all the extra bloated software Bell puts in their Homehub devices. As well, it doesn’t have any wifi which allows you to have a cleaner wifi setup with your own wireless router.
Hope this clears that up!
@@TechMixrthanks for explaining ❤
Rogers needs to lower their prices.
For all of the outages they’ve been having the last few weeks, they need to offer free Internet.
What’s been happening with them recently isn’t worth spending a penny on them.
8 Gbps up and down for the home? My lord!
Setup some servers and share movies.
Wow, distributel sold out?
Just running Plex for family members and a couple of close friends. I use the connection extensively for work and have been loving it!
same!!! i can allow 4k direct... i think ive had 2-3 people at once pulling direct play!!! no issues!! love it @@TechMixr
Asus just came up with more powerful routers be98 or be98 pro it has quad core 2.6 Ghz, more powerful than your ax89x i think yours has quad core 2.2 Ghz, they also have wifi 7, they have 10g base t ethernet ports but no sfp+ cage
It’s been out for a while. To be honest - I’m only running wifi 6 at home and it’s been fine. I’ll wait until these first gen wifi 7 routers are gone and we see prices come down and better features show up. (By then, I may actually have wifi 7 devices)
Loved the Content and your Hoodie :) Flintstones.
Love this hoodie so much!
Thanks for the compliment on the video 🙏🏾
Beanfield does it for 90$. Bell can do 75$/month for 8gb for 2 years. You need to find a sales person and haggle
@@Phil-D83 they no longer offer 8 gig to new customers.
That being said, I’m paying a lot less with no contract and I’m probably never getting rid of it
As of Feb 2025, they have to allow others to use their fiber network. Also, use an opnsense box as a router.
@@Phil-D83 it was earlier this year. It’s not them allowing it, it’s the CRTC forcing them to do it.
Also, with a bypass, it’s been easy to do opensense as a router for well over a year now.
Btw since then homehub 4000 has bridge mode is simple as holding down 2 buttons at the same time for 8 seconds.
@@gabiroli86 you still need to login via PPPoE. A true bridge would self authenticate via the hardware. The issue here is that if you buy consumer network equipment, it may not be powerful enough to handle routing and PPPoE frames that take a ton of overhead.
If it were a bridge mode like Rogers (to be clear bridge mode and IPV6 are the only things they seem to get right while everything else is wrong) - then you could use it with almost any router without performance loss/ massive CPU usage.
8311 ;)
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Bell's modem cannot handle 8GB and you can't get the full speed.
Please check 2:45 - I get the full download speed.
As far as upload, it may just be some server end settings on their end, but the equipment can easily do the speed.
@@TechMixr The first modem I had was said to be the issue because it didn't have the most recent firmware. It was exchanged for the same model, and after all the updates were applied, it had the same firmware version as the previous modem. If Bell is advertising symmetrical speeds, that is what they should deliver.
What speeds are you getting (download and upload)?
@@TechMixr To this day they cannot provide the full speed. 5Gbps or less in both directions and they blame the firmware.
8 gigabit? bro must be torrenting
@@CrankinIt43 nope. Work servers support 10 gig. (For video workflows)
It’s this or mailing out hard drives every month. I prefer this.
hmm.. I have the asus axe16000, couldnt be happier. Often my test speeds go above the 8 gig, I am in a new(ish) building so I think we have insulated cat5 wiring to all rooms.
as for the price, we had a bell rep come to our building and offer insane packages, Im currently paying 45/month for the 8 gig service, plus bell tv with sports and movie channels. my monthly bill is literally 104/month. this will not go up, unless I decide to cancel my TV services within 12 months. Roger's pricing is a joke and even Beanfield cant compete with the speed and pricing. and yes, I do use every single bit of the 8 gig speeds, I do a lot of 3D/motion graphics and daily Im uploading/downloading folders that are over 200 gigs, ~ 7 minutes! the Gigahub is an issue, but personally I dont mind as long as I get the performance from my wired devices.
The AXE16000 was great for wired speed, no question. But the Wifi connection was terrible. I’m not in an apartment and I don’t have a lot of network congestion here, but I get between 550 and 850 on my AX89X and I couldn’t get over 275 no matter what I tried with the AXE16000.
Maybe it was a lemon.
I wish builders would do better than CAT5E. I have some of that in my walls and refuse to use it. I don’t need a computer or any device in that particular room (yet anyway) but it’d be nice if there was at least conduit 🤦🏾♂️