even me, an outsider feel kinda angry and upset a boy had to go through all that just because of stupid laws and discrimination. i hope this kid grows up to be a great man one day and be the proof that gay parents are perfectly awesome as straight parents, maybe better ones, because they work harder, knowing the importance and fragility of their family due to outsiders' interference.
I am sad because it is perfectly fine and legal for irresponsible teenagers to get knocked up and put up their kids for adoption yet gay couple in a lot of places still cannot adopt those poor children to start a family.
i think its great they got their son back, but also so funny to listen to them speak its like both understand each other, and yet speak a different language wow
I think it's funny how people don't understand bilingual countries - in Belgium most people speak 2 or 3 languages (Dutch, French, English, German).. -roel
ha! I'm well aware there are a lot of countries where they only speak 1 language, it seems a lot of people aren't aware there are countries where that's not the case though.. But we're such a tiny country, we're bound to pay attention to a lot of the 'outside world' - I imagine bigger countries are a lot more introspected
I have no patience these days with the deranged people commenting on this video, who think by being incredibly offensive (and quite frankly plain stupid - in argument and in grammar) they can pursuade us to join their deranged beliefs. I don't get the need to convert people anyway, but internet trolling has never converted anyone. It just spreads hate, which is not a christian thing to do. So, I have been moderating the comments, and deemed the deranged comments not suitable for sane people to read. You're welcome. -roel
Great to see these men provide a loving home to this boy. They make a nice family despite the opinions of so many people that are anti-gay. Nice to hear the Dutch and French as well.
man orphanages sometimes scare the hell out of me. I am very happy for this couple who have their son back and would wish them only the best for their future:) damn the legal bodies and their policies and regulations. I would really want this kid to grow into a fine man just like his fathers:)
This is a fantastic tribute to the "adoption by gays" debate. When I see the love of Peter & Laurent for each other and their love for little Samuel, I just cried. It really touched me. How many kids today are not in happy family life situation; these guys have got it all together. Beautiful. I just hope now the media leave them to their privacy. God bless you guys and your little one(s).
+leonardoflorentin Does it matter? The important thing is that Tim is sending them his best wishes and positive energy. I join Tim in wishing them well. And fiy I'll pray to God the Father, God the Son, and to God the Holy Spirit.
Randy Watts Don't get me wrong i want to believe in god, i think we need it, but we need a god that sees with compassionate eye, who judge us for our souls not by with whom we mate. And we all know that the well known god, condemn gays to hell, only for been gay, so its just weird if you pray to that god about this issue.
Lucky kid . He has two dads who love him. There are a lot of kids in this world that don't know what it is to have loving parents. Bonne chance à mes Amis.
Ths beautifull family its gone be allright because they have a lot of love that is the one and only protection for a happy live the little one will always take that with him for tha rest off his live . Bless this family I wish them whealth health and happiness
Every child deserves to be loved and if it's by 2 dad's or 2 mom's who cares ! at least their wanted , loved and being taken care of and not in some horrible orphanage or " Foster care System ". And for all the religious nuts saying they should not be , i don't see their homes overflowing with adopted children ? or them doing anything to support the children , except doing what they can to prevent them from finding a permanent and loving forever home .
BornAgain happyfriday First of all , it's not Rath it's spelled " WRATH " and second , what the hell does your reply to my comment even mean ? it makes no sense and is completely foolish . If you are so worried , why are YOU watching and TROLLING .. Maybe you should spend your time asking for forgiveness and repenting and leave others alone ? Just a thought .
Samuel is so cute and happy. I just got to know about his story and I went from totally heartbroken to completely delighted! I can't even say how happy I am for this family. I wish them all the best and I'm sure Samuel will be fine and will become a wonderful man, just like his 2 dads...
Every child should be so lucky to be this loved and wanted, but no child should have to go through these hoops to be with their parents. We live in a crazy world but I am heartened that a small amount of sanity was returned when little Samuel was united with his dads in their own home.
Me too. My straight father is a cowardh pathetic who left my mother alone and never asked us if we needed something, so I am an straight women who hates homophobia and all the idiot bigot people out there who want to hurt others just for who they love to. It is so selfish to want rights only for us!.
Très belle histoire mais si elle a été douloureuse pour lui et vous au début. Je vous souhaite plein de bonheur avec votre joli petit garçon. Il a deux beaux papas qui démontrent beaucoup d’amour et d’attention. Du Québec.
Wow im so amazed with the sweet journey of this little cute angel nice to see that his in good hands at the end, growing up in his fathers love and caring.this the kind of documentaries should be in you tube most often.
They are really a role model parents. I salute you no matter what sex orientation of our parents are. people must respect them and not be criticized.They took back their son from the orphanage. Your son is so adorable, he's so cute. And I wish all the best for your son and dads .Hope I can see him again grown up with his loving parents . How I wanted to have a kid..I really wish.. God bless .
+jayner santos Well, I know Samuel is growing up great as a lovely boy in a loving family, but he has a private life that we all should respect. This story was in the media and online for a purpose, which it served, we think (Sam getting his passport).
Wonderful to see, you can see the little lad is thriving with his two dads because they clearly love him so much. What an awful time he must had in the orphanage to be so scared of the Ukrainian camera crew. He's a completely adorable little lad.
It is like a fairytale. A little boy, reunited with his two, ever so good looking dads. I was touched by the sensitivity of the guys. I can only wish them happiness and a long life together. Love to you all.
it is not at all 'worthless' to have a Belgian passport in France, as these are European countries, and in Europe you can live, work, travel,.. in any member state if you are a citizen of another member state. But the problem regarding the passport for Samuel was more complex: as a newborn, he needed a passport to leave Ukraine and enter the EU, and since his biological father is Belgian, Belgian Foreign Affairs should've automatically granted him his citizenship and passport, but they refused..
well, I am a native Dutch speaking Belgian, just like Peter, the 'Papou' of Samuel.. we're such a small country with 3 official languages, so we're known for being good with languages.. actually at school I was never good with languages, always more of a science and maths guy, but I do speak 4 languages, and I have to speak French on a daily basis, English often, and German rarely.. and of course I spoke mostly Dutch, my mother tongue -roel
Hi, 'Belgian' is not a language. In Belgium there are 3 official languages. Most people speak Dutch (we call it 'Flemish' because it's different from the kind of Dutch spoken by our neighbours The Netherlands). Nearly all others speak French, and a small minority speaks German. Peter is a Flemish guy but worked in Brussels where the main language is French. In this report he speaks Dutch to the camera, and French with his son. Laurent is a French speaking Belgian. They live in France now. -roel
Two very cute, hot, adorable dads; who both bring your hearts to this wonderful, sweet child. I'm so glad that Samuel is being raised by two very loving, caring, protective parents who will move heaven and earth to protect him. I see the true, honest love you both show for someone you hold dear; someone you'd go to the ends of the earth for. I see the anguish in your faces, & the anguish in your hearts, the tears in your eyes. Please take care of this wonderful child. I know he's in good hands.
the problem was the involvement of an (Ukranian) surrogate mother.. as surrogacy is not legal in Belgium, government (the bureaucrats of foreign affairs) didn't want to grant this child his Belgian citizenship (they make kind of the same case for child trafficking, which is illegal) fortunately, the court of justice ruled in favor of the biological father, and Samuel got his Belgian Passport -roel
Ok, I really had fun reading most of the comments (it's fucking ANNOYING in a video like this, people who write just to tell us how hot he/she finds the parents...we don't care and it's not important here ¬¬U). But this story is very touching, I didn't know it happened. I would love to be a dad someday so I felt very sorry for them and the little child. The only thing is that I would have preferred not to show the child, since he can't choose.
Actually, when people speaks of "the origins of marriage", they speak about the first ones to include some laws, rights and duties for marriage, the Roman marriage. It doesn't mean in other times and cultures, marriage, as a spiritual oath in front of their deities to be bounded to each other and start a new family with their partner, didn't exist, but it was all cultural, moral and spiritual. So it's funny when Christians talk about "origins of marriage" or "the meaning of marriage in history".
Amen! I fell in love with you. First person I see in RUclips to say something like that. I hate that people call my lifestyle "gay". There are many things I choose to have for a lifestyle. Customs, culture, ideals, values, beliefs... all of that, and then it's my homosexuality, which just defines the gender I feel attracted to and probably define the gender of my future partner to form a family...regardless of all the things I choose to include in my lifestyle. So yes, it's ANNOYING.
They are all Belgian, but living in France.. Peter is native Dutch speaking, Laurent is native French speaking (Belgium is a bilingual country), I'm pretty sure they speak both languages with Sam, but Sam goes to school in French. good luck with the bigots at the other side of the ocean! I imagine they will huff, puff and roar (and much uglier things) after the marriage equality victory in Maine, Minessota, Maryland and Washington? -roel
1) you can read up on the history of 'traditional marriage' in history or science, as well as in the bible.. either way you must conclude 'marriage out of love' (between a man and women, as I assume you think of) is a pretty recent phenomenon: historically 'traditional marriage' was a property transaction 2) same sex relationships were never 'the norm', as it is not now: only 10% of population is LGBT 3) your psych course was not up to date. identical twin studies show significant results -roel
1) ah.. yes it was, and you don't have to look to those pesky historics and scientist, just read your bible. 2) now that is real prejudice, as homosexuality is clearly not a choice (as any science on that matter states. please read abouthomosexuality(dot)com) you are born sexually attracted to the same sex as you are born black 3) read the Mark Regnerus study (all of it) at sciencedirect(dot)com (search for author: Regnerus, Volume 41, Issue 4, Page 752) -roel
historically, marriage has always been defined as a union between a Male & his Property (servant-wife), is that the diversity you speak of? what benefits does the male-female diversity hold over black-white or introvert-extravert diversity? (studies show children are as well or even better raised in same-sex couples) 'authentically' children born in seclusion know only their parents, nowadays diversity of any kind (gender, race, personalities) is found in family, schools, environment,.. -roel
I thought that Belgium was supposed to be a progressive country as same-sex marriage was legalized there since 2003. How come this is impossible while joint adoption and stepparents adoption are both allowed in Belgium ? This is so ridiculous. The boy's biological father is Belgian citizen so there is no way in hell he cannot have his son's custody.
I'm sorry, but in "Greek history" there weren't understanding at all of homosexuality. It wasn't a legal right, it was more kind of a custom, like it happened in many places and times in history, where and when homosexual behaviour were accepted but not for empathy, but for other reasons, wether they're cultural, social, religious or others...
thanks! it was important back then, because we think the attention this story got on tv and online, with people e-mailing government and press - and getting the story international and a lot of people phoning their Belgian embassy - certainly helped speeding up 'Foreign Affairs' making the decission to grant Samuel his Passport
well, it's not really 'my' story, but Peter so far hasn't asked me to pull down these videos.. which is nice, because it's an interesting story to a lot of people all over the world.. you can share the link to these youtube clips if you want -roel
WOW, they are hot fathers. The one with shorter hair would make a perfect Commander Shepard for the mShenko gay couple from the Mass Effect series. wow
Thanks for reducing parenthood to your sexual fantasies, but I don't think anybody here cares you think that way of them and even if they do, it's not the point of this video.
Marriage historically has always been defined between a Male and Female? Really? Did you live since the world was created? Or did you read it from a certain book someone wrote?
this is a terrible story that happened to Samuel and his dads. I wish it never happens again! This must have been two awful years for them. I wish all will be fantastic for them now.
This is gonna be one of my favourates even just watching a quarter of it, yet the two dads idea is awsome and furthermore, I heard Damien's song from there!!!
Good for you and I should look up to you as well. And finally one thing you mention above really confuse me ─ the Belgium passport ─, why do they move to France even though they were struggling for that passport? It is worthless to have Belgium passport in France, isn't it? That is kind of weird. Anyway, in the long run they make one of the sweetest family just like others. That is enough.
OK, I see. Thanks for your explanation. Anyway, I'm so glad that little Samuel finally reunited with his loving dads. Wish them all the best and happiness from the bottom of my heart. By the way, are you a native Belgian? I'm just curious because you seem very familiar with Belgium. If you are a Belgian, I would be very surprised at your fluent English, because I'm not a native speaker actually. I know how difficult it is to learn non-native languages.
Children are very adaptable. With the clear Love you guys are giving him he will become a brilliant young man and Very well balanced. I'm a South African ad have adopted a daughter when she 2 months young, turning 11 in Nov 2013. She is my whole life. Alone together we have faced the world and come out winners. I will make the same decision over and over. Young people need more role models like you guys. All the best and God bless.
What an adorable, sweet little boy! And the dads look like they’re full-on ready to shower some much-needed love and affection on him. :-) Found it interesting, though, that I had little trouble understanding the voice-over presenter and the news anchor, and even Laurent in French … but as soon as Peter opened his mouth, all I could hear was a Frenchman speaking English with a German accent! Couldn’t make out more than perhaps half the words.
Men and women can both raise children just as well as one another and it's social institutions and situations for the family that have a greater effect on how well a child can be raised. Watch world's strictest parents New Jersey episode and see how amazingly the two gay men can raise 5 kids. Gender has nothing to do with one's ability to raise a family; men and women can both be amazing or horrible parents.
Your ideas of physical and spiritual anatomy are not a universally held belief and hold no more ground than any other views on marriage and family. In some Algonquin tribes, it is the mother's brother who is to raise the male children and teach them how to manage the lands and take care of their fellow peoples and the uncles on their own do an amazing job for their social system.
And if you were living with the Maasai of Kenya and Tanzania, they would say that your Christian ethnocentric views do not produce the best atmosphere for raising a child and that it is essential for the child to have multiple female figures raising the children. Without the household having multiple wives it would fall apart in their view, which for their society is an actual possibility where many individuals are necessary to take care of the farmstead while the kids are being raised.
Theology of the Body? Really, you are gonna come with a religious approach to a controversial issue? That's very narrow minded of the person in the top comment. We have to face reality with a new open minded approach, one that is not bound to one religion. I am was brought up Catholic, what do I think of gay marriage and adoption? I find it inevitable that people who love each other are gonna get married. #TeamEquality
right, because fighting for a child that deserves a loving and caring 'parents' isn't part of the norm. because 'physiology and spiritual anatomy' doesn't include the pain, torture and heartbreak that these two consensual adults, who care and love one another, have been through. because people, like yourself, will never have nor feel it. you talk about 'spiritual anatomy', their child was forcefully taken away from them for one whole year. And in that one whole year, they fought for that child.
I remember reading about this when the story first broke into international news, it simply broke my heart. I couldn't understand why a government would intentionally separate loving fathers from their child. I thought for sure in Europe biology, as in The USA, would make the difference. I am so happy to finally see Samuel home and with his family. Thank you for uploading this, I need some good news for once! :)
I only read about this heart-breaking story before, a little while ago. I am so glad to see the video, I had wondered how you would all fare, how Samuel adapted to his new surroundings (so happy that he is happy!) and can only imagine the relief and joy of his dads. What an absolutely horrendous thing to go through! I wish the law in Belgium would change. My very best wishes to the whole family - do pamper and protect him just as much as is humanly possible, it will be very healing for everyone.
"Tradition" is something that has always been used to just keep people down and unequal. I detest tradition when it does not allow for full human rights. Marriage is a CIVIL CONTRACT between two people who love each other - if it were just about anatomy and breeding, my 93 year old father and his 80 year old second wife should never have gotten married.
Im touched by the two couple who really love and care for their son..Im proud of it..They are much better than the normal pple who will just do an abortion or would kill a life that they themselves created due to their own actions...May u guys have a lovely life ahead...Much Love Huggs And Kisses from bangkok Thailand..
It all depends on where you live, the important thing is that the child receives good,stable and loving parenting ,you do not have to be a couple or indeed straight to do that if straight were always better than gay there would not be so many children and young people needing care and prospective adopting parents are vetted biological parents are not.
That kid is so lucky...f* hell he has two, not one but TWO dads haha no offence to sons having mothers, but I never got along with my mother, and I wish I had two dads. I think for a boy to have two dads is awesome. Although, either way most important thing is to have two loving parents of any sort.
Didn't understand a word. Don't care. I understood by their body language and facial expression(and reading the comments) on what was happening. I can say I love this family. It's so happy and heartwarming (happy ending for gay people WIN :D)
That is unbelieveable!. The child is the biological child of one of the men. The fact that he was denied a passport and made to live in an orphanage is disgusting even though his dad is Belgian .Congratulations on finally winning the battle
this kid , could not have more luck than with these guys ^^ i wish you all luck and love in this world especially for the times where it is going tough ^^ and please do not forget you are a couple and a familiy ^^
Those men are absolutely cute...and so is little Samuel. Are they Dutch and speaking Dutch? I'm an African American, and here in the states, we have too many bigoted people here hindering gays from their RIGHTS.
I hope and pray that you all continue to grow in love with life and each other. May your days be filled with love, joy, peace, and happiness and may you always be surrounded by love and loved ones.
I'm glad it had a happy ending after all... Two men with a child is SOOOO ADORABLE! It is SO FREAKING CUte to see how gentle two men can become when they are protecting their child... so happy ^ ^
To Peter and Laurent. After seen your video I was so mad for giving a hard time with Sam and at the end I cried of happiness ... I wish the best to you and to Sam and my god always protect you….
What a beautiful family. Hope them live happily ever after. Good luck to little Samuel and his two loving dads. By the way, what language are they speaking? Belgian or French?
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even me, an outsider feel kinda angry and upset a boy had to go through all that just because of stupid laws and discrimination. i hope this kid grows up to be a great man one day and be the proof that gay parents are perfectly awesome as straight parents, maybe better ones, because they work harder, knowing the importance and fragility of their family due to outsiders' interference.
I am sad because it is perfectly fine and legal for irresponsible teenagers to get knocked up and put up their kids for adoption yet gay couple in a lot of places still cannot adopt those poor children to start a family.
i think its great they got their son back, but also so funny to listen to them speak its like both understand each other, and yet speak a different language wow
I think it's funny how people don't understand bilingual countries - in Belgium most people speak 2 or 3 languages (Dutch, French, English, German)..
-roel
Well try living your whole live in a country where they speak only 1 language and u ll see why. Nevertheless, I think it's great
ha! I'm well aware there are a lot of countries where they only speak 1 language, it seems a lot of people aren't aware there are countries where that's not the case though.. But we're such a tiny country, we're bound to pay attention to a lot of the 'outside world' - I imagine bigger countries are a lot more introspected
TWO AND ONE HALF YEARS of missed first moments gone FOREVER
Wow, the dads are handsome and the little boy is so adorable! Thank you for this video. I hope things are better in Europe after a few years.
I wish I had dadys like them , I trade my horrible straight abusive parent any time
oh poor kid, I am sorry he had to experience the orphanage but at least now they are happily together...
I have no patience these days with the deranged people commenting on this video, who think by being incredibly offensive (and quite frankly plain stupid - in argument and in grammar) they can pursuade us to join their deranged beliefs. I don't get the need to convert people anyway, but internet trolling has never converted anyone. It just spreads hate, which is not a christian thing to do. So, I have been moderating the comments, and deemed the deranged comments not suitable for sane people to read. You're welcome.
-roel
This was adorable.
Great to see these men provide a loving home to this boy. They make a nice family despite the opinions of so many people that are anti-gay. Nice to hear the Dutch and French as well.
So cute couple!! The funny thing is, that in Greece pappou means grandpa!! LOL :P
man orphanages sometimes scare the hell out of me. I am very happy for this couple who have their son back and would wish them only the best for their future:) damn the legal bodies and their policies and regulations. I would really want this kid to grow into a fine man just like his fathers:)
I'm glad I can say he is!
-roel
this is such a touching story. Best wishes for this lovely family.
Their story made me cry, it was sad for the child and for them at the beginning. I'm glad Sam is where he is supposed to be, with his dads.
This is a fantastic tribute to the "adoption by gays" debate. When I see the love of Peter & Laurent for each other and their love for little Samuel, I just cried. It really touched me. How many kids today are not in happy family life situation; these guys have got it all together. Beautiful. I just hope now the media leave them to their privacy. God bless you guys and your little one(s).
Makes my day. Just LOVE this cute family! But Where is the cc button I can find on iPhone by the way
On my phone, I found the CC button when clicking on the 'three vertical dots' menu button in the right top corner -roel
wow that 2 dads deserve that kid and build a super family .. wish them all the best !
Cute babe...just like his dads.. Hope they had a wonderful long life together. Will pray for the family.
Tim Kent Pray to whom? God? christ?
+leonardoflorentin Does it matter? The important thing is that Tim is sending them his best wishes and positive energy. I join Tim in wishing them well. And fiy I'll pray to God the Father, God the Son, and to God the Holy Spirit.
Randy Watts Don't get me wrong i want to believe in god, i think we need it, but we need a god that sees with compassionate eye, who judge us for our souls not by with whom we mate. And we all know that the well known god, condemn gays to hell, only for been gay, so its just weird if you pray to that god about this issue.
leonardoflorentin Hey friend that's what do judges our soul. the rest is man B.S.
Lucky kid . He has two dads who love him. There are a lot of kids in this world that don't know what it is to have loving parents. Bonne chance à mes Amis.
beautiful. Hats off to the two dads for not giving up on Samuel...
congratulations, please take good care of your baby...i guess he's now a toddler...may God bless you alll
soooooooooooooo cute!
these dads are so hot.
Ths beautifull family its gone be allright because they have a lot of love that is the one and only protection for a happy live the little one will always take that with him for tha rest off his live . Bless this family I wish them whealth health and happiness
Best wishes for a great life for all
The kid is so cute and the family is perfect.
Every child deserves to be loved and if it's by 2 dad's or 2 mom's who cares ! at least their wanted , loved and being taken care of and not in some horrible orphanage or " Foster care System ". And for all the religious nuts saying they should not be , i don't see their homes overflowing with adopted children ? or them doing anything to support the children , except doing what they can to prevent them from finding a permanent and loving forever home .
BornAgain happyfriday First of all , it's not Rath it's spelled " WRATH " and second , what the hell does your reply to my comment even mean ? it makes no sense and is completely foolish . If you are so worried , why are YOU watching and TROLLING .. Maybe you should spend your time asking for forgiveness and repenting and leave others alone ? Just a thought .
Samuel is so cute and happy. I just got to know about his story and I went from totally heartbroken to completely delighted! I can't even say how happy I am for this family. I wish them all the best and I'm sure Samuel will be fine and will become a wonderful man, just like his 2 dads...
Every child should be so lucky to be this loved and wanted, but no child should have to go through these hoops to be with their parents. We live in a crazy world but I am heartened that a small amount of sanity was returned when little Samuel was united with his dads in their own home.
Me too. My straight father is a cowardh pathetic who left my mother alone and never asked us if we needed something, so I am an straight women who hates homophobia and all the idiot bigot people out there who want to hurt others just for who they love to. It is so selfish to want rights only for us!.
Bless you both. Stay strong!
Très belle histoire mais si elle a été douloureuse pour lui et vous au début. Je vous souhaite plein de bonheur avec votre joli petit garçon. Il a deux beaux papas qui démontrent beaucoup d’amour et d’attention. Du Québec.
Lovely family. I hope they post more about how they are now.
Wow im so amazed with the sweet journey of this little cute angel nice to see that his in good hands at the end, growing up in his fathers love and caring.this the kind of documentaries should be in you tube most often.
Wonderful!
They are really a role model parents. I salute you no matter what sex orientation of our parents are. people must respect them and not be criticized.They took back their son from the orphanage. Your son is so adorable, he's so cute. And I wish all the best for your son and dads .Hope I can see him again grown up with his loving parents .
How I wanted to have a kid..I really wish.. God bless .
beautiful...i wish this cute family good luck!
What an uplifting story. You both have such courage. Congratulations and all the best to your family in the future.
roel vanacker, please post more stories on samuel as grow up as a grade school boy in belgium
+jayner santos Well, I know Samuel is growing up great as a lovely boy in a loving family, but he has a private life that we all should respect. This story was in the media and online for a purpose, which it served, we think (Sam getting his passport).
Wonderful to see, you can see the little lad is thriving with his two dads because they clearly love him so much. What an awful time he must had in the orphanage to be so scared of the Ukrainian camera crew. He's a completely adorable little lad.
wow i adore your fighting spirit 😍😍😍
It is like a fairytale. A little boy, reunited with his two, ever so good looking dads. I was touched by the sensitivity of the guys. I can only wish them happiness and a long life together. Love to you all.
it is not at all 'worthless' to have a Belgian passport in France, as these are European countries, and in Europe you can live, work, travel,.. in any member state if you are a citizen of another member state. But the problem regarding the passport for Samuel was more complex: as a newborn, he needed a passport to leave Ukraine and enter the EU, and since his biological father is Belgian, Belgian Foreign Affairs should've automatically granted him his citizenship and passport, but they refused..
well, I am a native Dutch speaking Belgian, just like Peter, the 'Papou' of Samuel.. we're such a small country with 3 official languages, so we're known for being good with languages..
actually at school I was never good with languages, always more of a science and maths guy, but I do speak 4 languages, and I have to speak French on a daily basis, English often, and German rarely.. and of course I spoke mostly Dutch, my mother tongue
-roel
Hi, 'Belgian' is not a language. In Belgium there are 3 official languages. Most people speak Dutch (we call it 'Flemish' because it's different from the kind of Dutch spoken by our neighbours The Netherlands). Nearly all others speak French, and a small minority speaks German.
Peter is a Flemish guy but worked in Brussels where the main language is French. In this report he speaks Dutch to the camera, and French with his son. Laurent is a French speaking Belgian. They live in France now.
-roel
Two very cute, hot, adorable dads; who both bring your hearts to this wonderful, sweet child. I'm so glad that Samuel is being raised by two very loving, caring, protective parents who will move heaven and earth to protect him. I see the true, honest love you both show for someone you hold dear; someone you'd go to the ends of the earth for. I see the anguish in your faces, & the anguish in your hearts, the tears in your eyes. Please take care of this wonderful child. I know he's in good hands.
the problem was the involvement of an (Ukranian) surrogate mother.. as surrogacy is not legal in Belgium, government (the bureaucrats of foreign affairs) didn't want to grant this child his Belgian citizenship (they make kind of the same case for child trafficking, which is illegal)
fortunately, the court of justice ruled in favor of the biological father, and Samuel got his Belgian Passport
-roel
Ok, I really had fun reading most of the comments (it's fucking ANNOYING in a video like this, people who write just to tell us how hot he/she finds the parents...we don't care and it's not important here ¬¬U).
But this story is very touching, I didn't know it happened. I would love to be a dad someday so I felt very sorry for them and the little child. The only thing is that I would have preferred not to show the child, since he can't choose.
Actually, when people speaks of "the origins of marriage", they speak about the first ones to include some laws, rights and duties for marriage, the Roman marriage. It doesn't mean in other times and cultures, marriage, as a spiritual oath in front of their deities to be bounded to each other and start a new family with their partner, didn't exist, but it was all cultural, moral and spiritual. So it's funny when Christians talk about "origins of marriage" or "the meaning of marriage in history".
Amen! I fell in love with you. First person I see in RUclips to say something like that. I hate that people call my lifestyle "gay". There are many things I choose to have for a lifestyle. Customs, culture, ideals, values, beliefs... all of that, and then it's my homosexuality, which just defines the gender I feel attracted to and probably define the gender of my future partner to form a family...regardless of all the things I choose to include in my lifestyle. So yes, it's ANNOYING.
They are all Belgian, but living in France.. Peter is native Dutch speaking, Laurent is native French speaking (Belgium is a bilingual country), I'm pretty sure they speak both languages with Sam, but Sam goes to school in French.
good luck with the bigots at the other side of the ocean! I imagine they will huff, puff and roar (and much uglier things) after the marriage equality victory in Maine, Minessota, Maryland and Washington?
-roel
1) you can read up on the history of 'traditional marriage' in history or science, as well as in the bible.. either way you must conclude 'marriage out of love' (between a man and women, as I assume you think of) is a pretty recent phenomenon: historically 'traditional marriage' was a property transaction
2) same sex relationships were never 'the norm', as it is not now: only 10% of population is LGBT
3) your psych course was not up to date. identical twin studies show significant results
-roel
1) ah.. yes it was, and you don't have to look to those pesky historics and scientist, just read your bible.
2) now that is real prejudice, as homosexuality is clearly not a choice (as any science on that matter states. please read abouthomosexuality(dot)com) you are born sexually attracted to the same sex as you are born black
3) read the Mark Regnerus study (all of it) at sciencedirect(dot)com (search for author: Regnerus, Volume 41, Issue 4, Page 752)
-roel
historically, marriage has always been defined as a union between a Male & his Property (servant-wife), is that the diversity you speak of? what benefits does the male-female diversity hold over black-white or introvert-extravert diversity? (studies show children are as well or even better raised in same-sex couples)
'authentically' children born in seclusion know only their parents, nowadays diversity of any kind (gender, race, personalities) is found in family, schools, environment,..
-roel
I thought that Belgium was supposed to be a progressive country as same-sex marriage was legalized there since 2003. How come this is impossible while joint adoption and stepparents adoption are both allowed in Belgium ? This is so ridiculous. The boy's biological father is Belgian citizen so there is no way in hell he cannot have his son's custody.
I'm sorry, but in "Greek history" there weren't understanding at all of homosexuality. It wasn't a legal right, it was more kind of a custom, like it happened in many places and times in history, where and when homosexual behaviour were accepted but not for empathy, but for other reasons, wether they're cultural, social, religious or others...
thanks! it was important back then, because we think the attention this story got on tv and online, with people e-mailing government and press - and getting the story international and a lot of people phoning their Belgian embassy - certainly helped speeding up 'Foreign Affairs' making the decission to grant Samuel his Passport
well, it's not really 'my' story, but Peter so far hasn't asked me to pull down these videos.. which is nice, because it's an interesting story to a lot of people all over the world..
you can share the link to these youtube clips if you want
-roel
WOW, they are hot fathers. The one with shorter hair would make a perfect Commander Shepard for the mShenko gay couple from the Mass Effect series. wow
Thanks for reducing parenthood to your sexual fantasies, but I don't think anybody here cares you think that way of them and even if they do, it's not the point of this video.
Marriage historically has always been defined between a Male and Female? Really? Did you live since the world was created? Or did you read it from a certain book someone wrote?
this is a terrible story that happened to Samuel and his dads. I wish it never happens again! This must have been two awful years for them. I wish all will be fantastic for them now.
lucky child in the world with 2 hot daddy xx
a rabbit..
it's a breed of rabbits that has it's ears hanging down, I guess that's why some people don't get that it's just a rabbit..
-roel
The very end where Samuel says "MMM" is so cute. I wish Papa Laurent and Papou Peter (was that right?) and little Samuel all the best!!!!
Siete veramente splendidi e vi Auguro tanta Felicità per la vostra Vita Insieme con il vostro angioletto... Un forte abbraccio da Lorenzo ( Italia )
This is gonna be one of my favourates even just watching a quarter of it, yet the two dads idea is awsome and furthermore, I heard Damien's song from there!!!
Estoy muy feliz, por el final de esta historia, todo mi amor desde Chile, a esos dos padre y su pequeño hijo, exito.
Why don't you take a lesson from Ange... Adopt from a another country where the rules are to you liking.
Good for you and I should look up to you as well. And finally one thing you mention above really confuse me ─ the Belgium passport ─, why do they move to France even though they were struggling for that passport? It is worthless to have Belgium passport in France, isn't it? That is kind of weird. Anyway, in the long run they make one of the sweetest family just like others. That is enough.
OK, I see. Thanks for your explanation. Anyway, I'm so glad that little Samuel finally reunited with his loving dads. Wish them all the best and happiness from the bottom of my heart. By the way, are you a native Belgian? I'm just curious because you seem very familiar with Belgium. If you are a Belgian, I would be very surprised at your fluent English, because I'm not a native speaker actually. I know how difficult it is to learn non-native languages.
Children are very adaptable. With the clear Love you guys are giving him he will become a brilliant young man and Very well balanced. I'm a South African ad have adopted a daughter when she 2 months young, turning 11 in Nov 2013. She is my whole life. Alone together we have faced the world and come out winners. I will make the same decision over and over. Young people need more role models like you guys. All the best and God bless.
What an adorable, sweet little boy! And the dads look like they’re full-on ready to shower some much-needed love and affection on him. :-)
Found it interesting, though, that I had little trouble understanding the voice-over presenter and the news anchor, and even Laurent in French … but as soon as Peter opened his mouth, all I could hear was a Frenchman speaking English with a German accent! Couldn’t make out more than perhaps half the words.
Men and women can both raise children just as well as one another and it's social institutions and situations for the family that have a greater effect on how well a child can be raised. Watch world's strictest parents New Jersey episode and see how amazingly the two gay men can raise 5 kids. Gender has nothing to do with one's ability to raise a family; men and women can both be amazing or horrible parents.
Your ideas of physical and spiritual anatomy are not a universally held belief and hold no more ground than any other views on marriage and family. In some Algonquin tribes, it is the mother's brother who is to raise the male children and teach them how to manage the lands and take care of their fellow peoples and the uncles on their own do an amazing job for their social system.
And if you were living with the Maasai of Kenya and Tanzania, they would say that your Christian ethnocentric views do not produce the best atmosphere for raising a child and that it is essential for the child to have multiple female figures raising the children. Without the household having multiple wives it would fall apart in their view, which for their society is an actual possibility where many individuals are necessary to take care of the farmstead while the kids are being raised.
Theology of the Body? Really, you are gonna come with a religious approach to a controversial issue? That's very narrow minded of the person in the top comment. We have to face reality with a new open minded approach, one that is not bound to one religion. I am was brought up Catholic, what do I think of gay marriage and adoption? I find it inevitable that people who love each other are gonna get married. #TeamEquality
right, because fighting for a child that deserves a loving and caring 'parents' isn't part of the norm. because 'physiology and spiritual anatomy' doesn't include the pain, torture and heartbreak that these two consensual adults, who care and love one another, have been through. because people, like yourself, will never have nor feel it. you talk about 'spiritual anatomy', their child was forcefully taken away from them for one whole year. And in that one whole year, they fought for that child.
I remember reading about this when the story first broke into international news, it simply broke my heart. I couldn't understand why a government would intentionally separate loving fathers from their child. I thought for sure in Europe biology, as in The USA, would make the difference. I am so happy to finally see Samuel home and with his family. Thank you for uploading this, I need some good news for once! :)
I only read about this heart-breaking story before, a little while ago. I am so glad to see the video, I had wondered how you would all fare, how Samuel adapted to his new surroundings (so happy that he is happy!) and can only imagine the relief and joy of his dads. What an absolutely horrendous thing to go through!
I wish the law in Belgium would change.
My very best wishes to the whole family - do pamper and protect him just as much as is humanly possible, it will be very healing for everyone.
This video is beautiful =) Agreed, the 2 fathers are very handsome =P i love the message of this video!
"Tradition" is something that has always been used to just keep people down and unequal. I detest tradition when it does not allow for full human rights. Marriage is a CIVIL CONTRACT between two people who love each other - if it were just about anatomy and breeding, my 93 year old father and his 80 year old second wife should never have gotten married.
Im touched by the two couple who really love and care for their son..Im proud of it..They are much better than the normal pple who will just do an abortion or would kill a life that they themselves created due to their own actions...May u guys have a lovely life ahead...Much Love Huggs And Kisses from bangkok Thailand..
It all depends on where you live, the important thing is that the child receives good,stable and loving parenting ,you do not have to be a couple or indeed straight to do that if straight were always better than gay there would not be so many children and young people needing care and prospective adopting parents are vetted biological parents are not.
How many kids out there in foster care would love a home like this. Loving parents is what it's all about no matter their sex.
in this clip, both Dutch and French is spoken (the report was for Flemish (Dutch) television)
-roel
We are so pleased it worked out well in the end after a bumpy start - hes going to be one lucky kid
That kid is so lucky...f* hell he has two, not one but TWO dads haha no offence to sons having mothers, but I never got along with my mother, and I wish I had two dads. I think for a boy to have two dads is awesome. Although, either way most important thing is to have two loving parents of any sort.
C'est tres bien pour le enfant. C'est tres bien pour tu ..Bravo. 3cheers from Canada
Didn't understand a word. Don't care. I understood by their body language and facial expression(and reading the comments) on what was happening. I can say I love this family. It's so happy and heartwarming (happy ending for gay people WIN :D)
That is unbelieveable!. The child is the biological child of one of the men. The fact that he was denied a passport and made to live in an orphanage is disgusting even though his dad is Belgian .Congratulations on finally winning the battle
Love this family so much! Such gorgeous and handsome fathers with a cute boy. :)
this kid , could not have more luck than with these guys ^^ i wish you all luck and love in this world especially for the times where it is going tough ^^ and please do not forget you are a couple and a familiy ^^
Those men are absolutely cute...and so is little Samuel. Are they Dutch and speaking Dutch? I'm an African American, and here in the states, we have too many bigoted people here hindering gays from their RIGHTS.
VERY NICE TO SEE THAT.
There are a lot of children all around the world who are in orphanage and don't have a family to care for them.
So why not l'et gay couples adopt them.
Iam happy to see this video
so, Laurent is the biological father of the child? am I correct? but the kid was born in Ukraine?
you can actually find the rest of this story on my channel. Samuel was born in the Ukraine. Peter and Laurent are his parents.
-roel
I hope and pray that you all continue to grow in love with life and each other. May your days be filled with love, joy, peace, and happiness and may you always be surrounded by love and loved ones.
I'm glad it had a happy ending after all... Two men with a child is SOOOO ADORABLE! It is SO FREAKING CUte to see how gentle two men can become when they are protecting their child... so happy ^ ^
To Peter and Laurent.
After seen your video I was so mad for giving a hard time with Sam and at the end I cried of happiness ... I wish the best to you and to Sam and my god always protect you….
What a beautiful family. Hope them live happily ever after. Good luck to little Samuel and his two loving dads. By the way, what language are they speaking? Belgian or French?