No Maverick Molecule: Ultimately with R.C. Sproul
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- If God is not sovereign, God is not God. Today, R.C. Sproul reveals that it is an abandonment not only of Christianity, but of theism itself if we believe that anything lies outside of God’s ultimate control.
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He goes into more detail on the explanation in 'Chosen by God.' Love your Dr. Sproul and can't wait to see you again!
A fantastic book by Dr Sproul is Chosen by God.
What a blessing to hear RC's teaching.
Isaiah 45:5,6,7
I am the LORD, and there is no other; apart from me there is no God. I will strengthen you, though you have not acknowledged me,so that from the rising of the sun to the place of its setting men may know there is none besides me. I am the LORD, and there is no other.I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster; I, the LORD, do all these things.
If God is not sovereign he is not god at all.
"There are no maverick molecules" "Whats wrong with you people"
We have no choice in anything or else God isn't sovereign. How can we be responsible for anything? God is all powerful. No one can choose to be born into sin before they were born.
"who served will, come" (but don't bother if I have predestinated you as you have no free moral agency?)
We are morally responsible and we do make choices, those are both biblical truths. Yet God is so powerful that even though we have a free will He is still sovereign
At least you see the implications on man's responsibility and admit that he can have none in this system.
Thanks for explaining that for me.I LOVE the WORD of GOD.
I have question..When God created Lucifer, did He knew he would sin?
Petri pat......100% totally knew.....for God is omniscient. But if the evil one understood the sovereignty of God, that might have helped us avoid what we have now, humanly speaking....it will all be made like God intended some day, and then it will never change again forever.
I Am.
States it all, nothing is outside of God's knowledge.
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I'm not sure He did ..I think He is learning... and what leads me to believe that in theory is that He repented 2 times that I know of in His word and also that it would seemed far fetch to knowingly create someone so pure yet so wicked He would give His only Son...It would be like creating drama...now dont get me wrong I believe in Jesus as my Savior and that He Resurrected and That He is perfect in all ways and that I trust Him both ways in what concerns the subject I'm bringing.. its only a theory
@@petripat5979 God is incapable of learning. He's omniscient and immutable.
@@petripat5979 Thanks for your reply. I am relieved that you suggest "it's only a theory."
What a man! He was the greatest apologist of the modern era and actually still is with all of his audio and video library! His reward has been recognized. Happy eternity RC!
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So I believe that Jesus Christ lived a sinless life, died on the cross, rose from the dead, but I'm an atheist because I don't think God needs to micromanage every molecule. This is why Classical Theism is absurd 🤣
Amen!!!! Shared.
"it is not Gods will that any should perish, but all should come to repentance"..so????
First, let’s expand out the verse fully:
2 Peter 3:9 (NIV84) The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.
This is a great mystery. I think most evangelical theologians would teach BOTH predestination and free will without any contradiction from the point of view of God. The verse above clearly shows a merciful God waiting for sinful man to exercise his/her free will and repent. But earlier:
2 Peter 3:7 (NIV) By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of ungodly men.
Here the promise of judgment is clearly a statement of predestination. That NO MATTER what mankind does, there was and is appointed a Day of Judgment that was preordained and predestined to occur. All within two verses of one another.
All I see is a circular argument. A day of judgement being preordained does not nessesitate ones salvation being preordained.
I'm somewhere between a 3 point Calvanist and an Arminian. There's no point trading verses, I've heard both sides of the argument ad infinitum. And if you're right, it doesn't matter anyway :)
@@glvbjr than I'm sure you've heard the argument that the verse you are referring to means all as in all the elect
Energizer-all means all. Greek is very clear
@@glvbjr yes I agree, all of the true church will not perish.
doesn't all mean all? John 1:3. Of course there is no maverick molecule. Nothing exists that was not created through Him. Nothing.
But this sounds as though he is saying that God ordained that Adam and Eve would sin and I can’t accept that
That's exactly what he seems to be saying and is exactly what consistent Calvinists that I've spoken to have said.
Actually he "pussyfoots" around the issue and punts to mystery on the lapsarianism question.
@counsellortroy the good news is that Calvinism is a false teaching. The early church and church for 1500 years never taught this. God would be weak if he could only force humans to love Him.
Imagine if you could only get a wife by holding her at gun point telling her to love you. That would be an evil god
Yes, God is sovereign, however it's our choice.
Isaiah 46:10 KJV - Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure:
Notice how it's in present tense
Oxymoron
The trouble with arminians is they are blinded to all the verses in the bible that say things they don't like.
I'd it's settled, why follow the great commission, why evangelize, why witness? It's all played out.
@@glvbjr 1 Chronicles 17:6 ESV - In all places where I have moved with all Israel, did I speak a word with any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to shepherd my people, saying, “Why have you not built me a house of cedar?”’
If that's not enough proof:
Numbers 14:20 ESV - Then the LORD said, “I have pardoned, according to your word.
As I previously said, salvation is our choice. This is why Jesus commanded us to preach the gospel. As the two verses prove, God never told anyone AND God's mind can be changed
@@HearGodsWord we do have a choice, read my reply to @Young Gandalf
Utterly absurd and moronic
So dumb
How I miss such a beloved Elder, and how it fills heart with joy to hear him expound the Triune in all His splendor and majesty. Bless the Lord of all creation.
R.C. Sproul at his finest
God is the supreme Ruler.He is sovereign.
Praise God! 🙏🙌
Such great teachings from RC, resting in the Sovereignty of God, what an awesome comfort, thank you
God gave free will. Utterly refutes this idiocy
So deism = atheism?
Is He then the author of sin?
Nope
I reject hyper Calvinism. I don't see where all the claims of "God is Sovereign" preclude our choice in accepting or rejecting salvation. God knowing what we will choose is foreknowledge not predestination.
what are thoughts and decisions? it is not the laws that god made to act on us? Some of us call them angels.
This is not hyper Calvinism, it's biblical.
Nope. Still don't buy it. "Whosever shall come, come."
I can send some scripture supporting this later if you like
@@glvbjr No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him. John 6:44
nd other false doctrine believers but you dont even know what the word "sovereign " even means
@@HearGodsWord why , im waiting to to hear what they think the word means , why ask a question and give the right answer before i hear a response ?
@@HearGodsWord would you like to answer the question seeing how you want to comment
@@HearGodsWord ":evidence " ive been dealing with calvinist for long enough to know they make up their own meaning of the word
@@HearGodsWord and i see you dont know what the word means either ,
to bad .,
@@HearGodsWord far from it , i unlike calvinist dont make up meanings to words to try and support a doctrine made by man