The GUTSIEST Play Call in New England Patriots HISTORY | Dolphins @ Patriots (1985)
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- Опубликовано: 14 сен 2021
- Imagine calling a flea flicker on 4th and inches. As crazy as that sounds, that's exactly what New England Patriots head coach Raymond Berry did during a 1985 NFL game against the Miami Dolphins. And the play not only helped win the Patriots the game, and not only earned praise from Don Shula, but propelled the Pats to their first Super Bowl appearance in franchise history. This is the story behind the incredible play.
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Members of the 1985 Patriots:
Tony Franklin
Rich Camarillo
Tony Eason
Steve Grogan
Rod McSwain
Robert Weathers
Raymond Clayborn
Greg Hawthorne
Jim Bowman
Mosi Tatupu
Fred Marion
Craig James
Tony Collins
Roland James
Ronnie Lippett
Ernest Gibson
Larry McGrew
Brian Ingram
Johnny Rembert
Ed Williams
Don Blackmon
Andre Tippett
Steve Nelson
Pete Brock
Garin Veris
Ron Wooten
Tom Condon
Trevor Matich
Paul Fairchild
Steve Moore
Art Plunkett
Lester Williams
John Hannah
Guy Morriss
Brian Holloway
Kenneth Sims
Irving Fryar
Stephen Starring
Derwin Williams
Cedric Jones
Julius Adams
Stanley Morgan
Lin Dawson
Derrick Ramsey
Toby Williams
Ed Reynolds
Dennis Owens
Ben Thomas
Raymond Berry (head coach) 
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As a Patriot fan since the beginning in 1960 thanks for the flashback. Berry did a great job getting the Pats to their 1st SB.
Raymond Berry seemed like a really likable guy - humble and smart.
I have three editions of the game "NFL Strategy." Using cards for offensive and defensive plays, and a randomizer, you had simulated game play. Each game came with a playbook that explained the plays, with a note from the coach about each play. For the Flea Flicker, the note says, "Pray someone on the defense gets hypnotized."
That was Mosi Tatupu, not Tony Collins that lateraled to Grogan.
MOSI TATUPU! MOSI TATUPU! MOSI TATUPU!
Mosi's Moose's.
@@ZeroCrystal hey!! I was just about to do that.
Having gone to college in the Boston/New England area, I was surrounded by Pats' fans. I remember this game so well against the Dolphins and the excitement after this game. You explained it perfectly and I loved the video clips. Took me back 36 years. Fantastic video--Great job
My AA counselor called and asked how I was doing. I said I had to drink the spike.
That’s Mosi Tatupu, number 30, who took the handoff and then pitched the ball back to Steve Grogan; not Tony Collins
I'm not a Patreon, but I'd love to see a supercut of every time JG9 mentions the idea that it was a lower passer rating than if you spiked the ball on every single play
Steve grogan called the plays that year so as much as u criticized grogan he is the main reason the win the game abd the rb with the toss is mosi tatupu
Grogan was replaced shortly thereafter by Tony Eason, who was the QB in the Super Bowl.
Bad move, he was immobile.
Tony Eason had 2 awesome seasons in Patriot uniform
Eason was pulled for Grogan in that Super Bowl, when the Pats were getting crushed. Grogan threw the only Pats TD in the game on a pass to Irving Fryar.
Eason threw a great pass early on that was dropped by Stanley Morgan. He was not helped by his receivers.
A little off topic but I'm pretty sure Don Shulas last words were 'snow plow'
At 7:35 we see another trick play from the Patriots that was like what Don Shula (presumably) called in Super Bowl 3 that also ended in an interception. This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made another video about how the Cowboys earlier that year ran the same trick play twice in the same game.
Those ‘85 Patriots were a fun team to watch. I rooted for them through the playoffs, as they kept winning one big game after another. But you just knew their ride would come to an abrupt end in NOLA.
Amazing that that Bears team only won one Super Bowl.
Yea, I wasn't alive yet when the 1985 Pats went on their unexpected run, but from just watching videos about them, yea, they were the definition of a Cinderella team. Let's face it, Super Bowl XX was supposed to be Bears vs. Dolphins, the team that gave one of the greatest teams of all time their lone loss on MNF. But instead, the Pats beat the Jets in Jersey 26-14, outlasted the Raiders in LA 27-20, and then beat the Dolphins in Miami, and not only beat them, they blew them out 31-14. And it was only the Pats 1st win in Miami since the Dolphins 1st season in 1966. No wonder the Pats have historically struggled in Miami. And going in, yea, the Pats were just happy to be there. Da Bears are who we thought they were, and they just flat out dominated. At least the Pats could say that they had a lead and were the only team to score a TD on that vaunted defense in the playoffs.
@@adamgordon6435 The Bears had alot of solid teams in the 1980's, it wasn't just in '85. Problem was, the NFC was so dominant back then. At one point, the NFC won 13 straight Super Bowls. CHI had to deal with teams like the Giants, Redskins and 49ers. If not for those 3, they probably would have gotten a few more Lombardis, but they were One Hit Wonders. What could have been.
that doesn’t sound very fun, why didn’t they have a chance against the saints?
@@treywar25 They didn't play the Saints in SB20. The game was in New Orleans. The Pats just didn't match up well against the Bears, who were one of the greatest teams of all time, with arguably the greatest defense of all time. The Pats were a Wild Card team who sneaked into the Playoffs as the 5 seed, and went into hostile territory 3 straight weeks, and won 3 road games to claim the AFC Crown. Meanwhile, the Bears posted back to back blowout shutouts against the Giants and Rams at home to claim the NFC, and then dominated the Pats in Nawlins to win their lone Lombardi.
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Your videos and "documentary" style of presenting the past makes me wish the NFL had a streaming service to go back and watch these amazing games.
Thank you
Official Jaguar Gator 9 has made a video about another play by the patriots that completely changed a season.
2:17 old school Grogan
I have seen SO many 'top 10 greatest draft steals' lists over the years, and my litmus test is, "Do they include Raymond Berry?" If not, disregard ....
LOVE how you keep finding these gems in old piles of gravel. Great channel.
The video quality sometimes makes me take that literally.
That was one of the few home games that weren't blacked out during that season. Not only did the fleaflicker save their season but it was one of the best moments of what was a fun year. It's too bad that they couldn't pull off an upset of the Bears in the Super Bowl but that wasn't going to happen. Thankfully years later later the Pats would pull off their Super Bowl upset against the Rams. That still feels like yesterday.
Pats won twice in orange bowl in '85 winning afc title game there too. I wonder if marino realized then that his chances of getting back to many s b's was beginning to slip away even then? And bradshaw and steelers were masters of the flea flicker in the '70's. Got browns with it many times.
I wonder if Pittsburgh would have gone to several more SBs if they'd drafted Marino? They fell off for a few years, but by 92' were back to the playoffs.
@@eugenedenbrook322 Yep. There would have been no mark malone or todd blackledge era in pitt. And they probably would have won a few more since steelers were always built thru d and a strong running game. Something phins lacked while marino was there. And in '84 marino and phins beat steelers in afc title game to send marino to his only s b. A true what if there...
They actually only won once in Miami in 1985. The Dolphins beat them there in a Monday night thriller in December when Tony Eason was intercepted on the final drive. Fascinating games between those two teams that season.
@@richsheer4905 Yep. I saw pats wearing white in the video so i thought it was in miami till i realized they were on pats field. Rare white at home game for pats.
@@stevenbauer4799 WAH games weren't rare for the Pats that season. Including the playoffs, they wore their red tops only six times, all away from home.
I was at a Celtics game at Boston Garden during the NFL playoffs in '85/'86 when the entire arena burst out into a "Squish the fish" chant at halftime. The Patriots were a lot of fun that year, until they played the Bears in the Super Bowl...
The 85 Patriots were the first team to win three straight playoff games on the road.
Great post, once again JG9.
Of the many things you're great at, unearthing these rare, almost forgotten stories is among them.
There was a UK broadcast that Steve Grogan told former John Smith told him the play: Flea Flicker 135!!!
I’d love to see Don Shula’s record as a head coach against each team individually at the time of his retirement. He was such an amazing coach and seemed to be an overall great man.
Editing needed: At 8:37 yu said "to give the Patriots a 13-10 lead. But evil Miami was ahead.
True. That confused me.
I remember this game because Bob Griese a former Dolphins quarterback called the game for NBC. Later that evening here in Boston there was a radio call in show called “The Sports Huddle” and callers complained about Griese and they contacted NBC about Griese.
I enjoyed this video clip. Enjoyed watching the Pats in 85. Grogan led some dominant Patriots teams in the 70's with John Hannah , Sam Bam Cunningham and a dominant defense led by Mike Haynes, Tim Fox and Steve Nelson
It likely changed the whole AFC playoff scenario. Denver probably makes it in instead of New England. And Super Bowl XX is either a rematch between the Bears & Dolphins, or Marcus Allen basically going it alone against the 46. ( Marc Wilson is not doing anything good there.)
Patriots with their best uniforms and logo ever pat the patriot
Please do a video on this: The olphins were consistently the least penalized team year after year ... why? The evil Don Shula was on the leageue's competition committee and he evaluated the referees every year! That is one reason I hated the evil Dolphins.
Jfc the shoeless kicker. I haven’t seen that in ages
Another flawless classic video
Gr8 video! Bringz back sum memories!
To get an idea how long Shula coached: He coached against both George Halas and Bill Belicheck
@8:18 that back is #30 FB Moisi Tatupu, not #33 HB Tony Collins.
Heading into the '85 AFC Championship Game, the Patriots were on an 18 game losing streak in the Orange Bowl, but upset the overconfident Dolphins by forcing 6 turnovers and stomping them on their way to 255 rushing yards.
The Pats actually beat the Dolphins in Miami during their inaugural season in 1966. But other than that, that was a great upset and shut everyone up that was saying that it was gonna be a Bears/Dolphins Super Bowl.
@@b1galbos89 My bad. 1-19 overall at that point and 18 losses in a row. I missed the Boston Patriots big '66 win.
@@threerings1345 Yea, that's ok. It was a big win for them though, as it kept them alive as one of the top AFL teams competing for a spot in the 1st ever Super Bowl, which they ended up narrowly missing out to the Chiefs. Regardless, Miami has been a historically tough place for the Pats, regardless of W/L record.
@@b1galbos89 Even in the Super Bowl years it was a house of horrors. I remember being there for a Monday night game late in '04, probably the 2nd best Pats team of the Brady era, only to see them lose 29-28 to an awful Dolphins team.
@@threerings1345 I'd say 3rd best Pats team. 2007, then 2016, then 2004. Anyway, Yea, I remember that game as well sadly. Brady had one of his sloppiest games ever, as he threw 4 INT's, but the Pats still had an 11 pt. lead with 4 mins. left. But after some boneheaded miscues, they ended up losing by 1. At least they would end up winning it all in the end, so it was just a minor bump. But yea, even during the Brady/Belichick Era, they were 8-10 in Miami. It's a pain in the ass to play there as the road team.
7:44
The moment you all came for
It's the reason I stopped subbing to this channel. Having a shtick is bad enough, working it into EVERY video you do? Weak as weak gets.
After that pass his qb rating was above that mendoza line
Number 30 that flipped the ball back to grogan was not tony Collins it was Mosi Tatupu.
An absolute genius call, it was risk or reward and the reward was absolutely worth it especially when you have Don Shula giving credit to that play, shows how great it is, I wonder if it'll ever be seen again.
Needs post-video edit at about 8:36.
Video idea, that time Atlanta started lateralling on the final play when they were 1 score ahead
Only time I can think of where Shula got fooled by a trick play (who better then one of his former players to pull said trick).
again, great stuff
Glorious
For sure, in 1985 the AFC East & West were really competitive, while the AFC Central was pretty hapless, and those 1985 Broncos are on most lists of best teams not to make the playoffs.
Ha ha, yeah, the Dolphins defense was hot garbage in 1985, and it only became worse in subsequent seasons (until the "Miami Pound Machine" Miami D of 1990; they had the rhythm that season).
Definitely a gutsy call, and better than spiking the ball for sure.
Steve Grogan was a pretty good runner who also accumulated a lot of rushing TD's, and held the single-season record in that category for 35 years (I think Official JaguarGator9 may've already touched upon that. Gro-Gannnn!).
Crazy, how Denver missed the playoffs at 11 - 5; four years later, they were the #1 seed with the same record! How watered down was the AFC in the 2nd half of the 80s, 1st half of the 90s?
@@eugenedenbrook322 VERY watered down, and 1989 was awful for the AFC (Denver was the only team in the conference to win even 10 games that season; there were either teams that underachieved, were fading, or weren't ready. The AFC was MUCH better in 1990).
@@gluserty The AFC wasn't good overall in 1989, but the AFC Central was very fun with 4 teams that all hated each other. Browns win it at 9-6-1, and Bengals finish last at 8-8 but also had the best point differential....mainly due to that hilarious 61-7 win over Houston where Wyche sent out the FG unit at the end of the game to rub it in Jerry Glanville's face,
@@pwinson Yeah, the AFC Central was entertaining for sure, and I feel that some teams (Oilers, Bengals) underachieved, while the steeler overachieved, and it turns out that the browns were at the end of their run with their particular core.
The 2008 Pats (Brady’s torn ACL year) went 11-5 and missed the playoffs, which had long ago been expanded to 6 teams in each conference. Tie breakers can be a real pain.
this is 1985 and if you want to know how risky a flea flicker is ask joe theisman who got his leg broken on a flea flicker in 1985 against the giants on monday night football
Man these Pats teams were rough to watch but fun. I Remember me and my brother going nuts after the play. Killed me how easy Marino made everything look at the Patriots were platooning QBs.
I was a Steve Grogan fan and was mad when they subbed Tony Eason for him. Eason had skills, but Grogan was more reliable.
Belichick's '03 call for a deliberate safety in Denver by snapping a punt off the goal post with the Patriots already behind late had to at least tie this play. The Pats ended up with the top seed in the AFC by 1 game over KC that year.
That one game definitely made a difference for the Pats because if they lost this game, the Broncos would've made the playoffs as the AFC's 5th seed instead. Also, Mosi Tatupu's 1st name is pronounced MOH-see.
That was Mosi Tatupu that pitched it back to Grogan. During Miami 7 game win streak they beat the bears on monday night. The patriots went 6-1 down the stretch losing to Miami on a monday night. Can you a story on deflategate? There's new reports coming out the last few days implicating the the nfl
“And the QB dan Marino. Who had the rating of someone who fake spiked the football into the ground but not on every play”
4:00 what an awful drop
36 Years Ago
If this advice ever finds its way to an NFL coach and they use it, they are going to seem like a genius. This is going to sound silly until you actually give it some thought... but the most misused and underutilized play in NFL history is the flea flicker. The conventional thinking of the flea flicker is all wrong, and the Joe Theismann injury really soured its reputation. The flea flicker is used as a Trick play with a capital t, and put in the same category as double-reverses, hook & ladder, halfback options, and it is used to try to fool defenses into a major blown coverage and set up a home-run long bomb throw. But obviously NFL defenses are highly intelligent and basically never fall for it, and best case you just get a regular one-on-one and the receiver makes the grab. The way the flea flicker should be used is as a minor "trick" play in the same category as draws, rpo, and screen passes. Think about it: the flea flicker is the opposite of a draw play! The draw play fakes a pass and then switches to a run halfway through. The flea flicker fakes a run and then switches to a pass halfway through. Therefore the flea flicker should be used about the same frequency as a draw play, maybe about 2 to 4 times per game. And the flea flicker should be used for the same goal as a draw play, not to hit a 50-yard touchdown, but to pick up an easier 5 or 10 yards. Like a trap block or a screen pass the flea flicker uses the defense's aggression against it, and makes the defense have to second-guess before they commit full force to defend one line of attack. And the funniest part of this video is the intro line: "Imagine calling a flea flicker on 4th and inches" hahahahahaha holy fuck, imagine how absolutely perfect of a call it is to call a fake run in a situation where the defense has to decide in a split second to sell out against the run or not!!! Jesus fucking christ, what is actually "hard to imagine" is why the hell it's not done on a regular basis! Why in the world has an NFL coach never called a flea flicker on the goal line?! That's the perfect place for the call because again the defense has to instantly sell out on the run to have any chance to stop it. And yet no coach has ever done it. And the "analytics" can't tell them it's a good idea... because there are no stats on it, because no one has ever done it. The closest thing is that in college they now sometimes run a dumb play where the quarterback runs the ball up to the line as if he's running a keeper play, and then at the last second stops behind the line of scrimmage and throws the ball to a receiver. It sometimes works, but it is a lot for a quarterback to do, and instead of making the defense make the split second decision, it forces the quarterback to make the quick decision while he's up nuts to butts with the line of scrimmage and maybe has a defensive tackle in his face. It is a shitty version of a flea flicker, whereas a simple traditional flea flicker pitch back to the QB would cause a tight end or a fullback or even a lineman-eligible receiver to be wide the fuck open often. And especially the first few times that the first Coach surprises everyone with the play.
85 was maybe funniest year we ever had up until super bowl....grogan led the way
With all due respect, the gutsiest call in Patriots history is when Bill Belichick resigned as the head coach of the NYJ… keep it coming
What an absolute dime on that pass too
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I’m not sure this was a gutsy call. I would call it unusual. Fourth and one opens up the possibility for a run or pass play. The dolphins can’t easily defend both. The most common call on fourth and one would be a QB sneak.
Has the story of the Pats-Bengals game been done on this channel? Also known as the day they tore the goal post down..
And Raymond Barry used to be one of Shula's players
AND EVER SINCE the Dolphins lost the 85 championship game they have never been back to the Superbowl you can call it the Patriots curse
They guy that kick barefoot is a Goat 😅
A video about barefoot kickers would be awesome!
dolphins defense - a faded one .
What did the loss of the LA Rams, a team that would have been in the NFC bracket, have to do with home field advantage in the AFC brackets?
He meant raiders
@@johnpersechini4951 Ahhh. That makes sense. I was all sorts of confused.
I remember we all had our pre-game rituals. Mine was boogey flicking. Marcus Allen it was doing a white woman before the game. Whatever worked.
Greg Hawthorne, Steelers 1st round RB bust...similar pick to one Walter Abercrombie....they flat out couldn't replace Franco in the draft.
Now that the Patriots have been a 6 ring team I 4got this play.
Then they Squished the Fish in Miami (for the 1st time in like 20 games) and went to SB.
Do a video on the Tuck rule fumble between the Patriots vs the Raiders
No. I dont think this is the gutsiest call. Against the Broncos, down by one late in the game the Pats took a safety. They went on to stop the Denver offense and followed up by a game winning drive. I think that was the guttsiest play.
Squish the fish!
2008 patriots would become the 2nd team ever to go 11-5 and not make the playoffs
I don't know tuck rule and the snowplow r up there
7:46
You really should get rid of the red timer on your intro or move it to the bottom right corner of the screen. It doesn’t mesh well with everything else on screen at all.
10 43 Did you say Raiders? At first I thought you said Rams and now I can't really tell.
But yeah, Denver screwed themselves that season with that 11-5 record because they failed to beat said Raiders either time. The second one pretty much came down to the fact their punter Chris Norman, was more worthless than tits on a nun that season. Specifically, his wet fart of a punt into the wind at home during overtime set up the Raiders to make short work en route to a GWFG. They tried to make Barney Chavous (pronounced SHAY-vus) the fall guy, as when asked which end zone to defend after the coin toss, he admittedly chose...poorly. But he wasn't to blame for relying on Chris Norman as their punter.
Seriously, he was so bad that the emergence of Mike Horan felt like the second coming of Ray Guy.
Anyway, might make a good story for a future video.
Still angry we didn't make the post season.
Get this, around 2009 or 2010 I was listening to the national radio broadcast of a playoff game, during which Dan Reeves said he had never heard of a team winning 11 games and missing the postseason. Total SMH moment for me.
They messed up the Super Bowl that year as well. Marino was the only guy that could beat da Bears in 85
The Bears might have caught a break with the AFCCG result. They didn't match up with the Fins very well.
They would have if they could have and ever since the 85 championship game the hapless dolphins have never made it back to the Superbowl
As much as I respect Bill Belichick and today's Patriots, I will never forgive them for throwing a wrench in what I consider what would've been the greatest Super Bowl ever, a Chicago Bears vs. Miami Dolphins Super Bowl match up. I believe if that still would've been the most watched television show ever watched.
If they could have they would have dolphin fans still can't get over the fact that after the AFC Championship loss the Dolphins have never made it to the Superbowl I call it the Patriots curse
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