The PDSW 528 is Basically Hitscan! | Gun Guide Ep. 17
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- Опубликовано: 14 июл 2024
- Welcome to Modern Warfare II Gun Guides! This is the series where I dive deep into the stats and best attachments for every gun in the game. In today's episode, we're breaking down the PDSW 528 (FN P90) in great detail! What do you think of this weapon in MWII?
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0:00 Intro
0:18 Damage & Multipliers
1:09 Rate of Fire & TTK
1:45 Bullet Velocity
2:06 Ranges
2:25 Hipfire & Sway
2:47 Recoil
3:17 Handling
3:45 Mobility
3:57 Barrel Ranges
4:30 Barrel Recoil
4:52 Barrel ADS Speed
5:26 Rail Attachments
6:46 All Around/Strafe Build
8:14 The Little LMG Build
9:21 Wrapping Up 
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mw2 barrels:
+3% range
-0.5% recoil
+200 ms ads speed
+100 ms sprint out time
-300 credit score
That last one lmfao
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You pump these out so fast and give so much useful information,
Its quite incredible how you manage to pull that off
Thanks! It's nice to know people recognize the extra effort I'm putting in to get these out quickly!
@@TheXclusiveAce My only gripe with this content is I wish the average movement speeds for the categories of each weapon were median and not mean values. I can't be the only one who thinks that, right? Seems like no weapons ever lie on that average value you give out, and it is a little weird. Median or even mode would be more representative of the average gun in this case. I haven't seen all the videos, so I can't be sure if I'm wrong about that
@@TheXclusiveAce doing more than Activision iw without a shadow of a doubt
@@TheXclusiveAce your efforts are appreciated.
@@TheXclusiveAce what are the movements speed increases of the 2 rail attachments? That would have been helpful to include 😊
I really hope we see the FN Five Seven in this game. One of my favourite things is using primary and secondary weapons that share an ammo type for a bigger shared ammo pool - loved doing that back in MW19. Thanks for the detailed breakdown as always, Ace!
Also logistically would make more sense to load down with one type
Jaret Bradley Good point! Juggling multiple ammo types is probably a huge pain and a logistical challenge in one.
The only bad thing about doing that in mw19 was that, without Fully Loaded, your stock would only take the secondary into account, giving you only maybe 40 or so bullets in reserve even if you're using a 30rnd weapon like the fennec
They're going to keep reusing MW19 DLC weapons most likely
A FN 5.7 would be dope
*FN 5.7 was designed to go through body armor by being extra fast. I’m glad that part got translated into the game.*
Yea about freaking time
Its great at piercing jaffa armor too.
Only pierces soft kevlar armor. It's not even close to armor piercing.
It was the same in mw2019
It was not good enaugh for the soviet armor of the time, let alone modern body armor. Watch the 9 hole reviews vid.
The big thing that would happen if you introduced armor penetration is the ars, lmgs and higher caliber snipers would become meta at all ranges and pistols, smgs and shotguns would get destroyed.
It's crazy how they made every barrel attachment in the game unusable.
How so ?
It's most of the attachments, to be honest.
Fr. After watching the last 4 Gun Guides this past week or so, I've been using barrels a lot less on my weapons. Takes too much ADS speed while barely giving any Recoil Control / Damage Range for a lot of these weapons.
Yeah, the ones that "help" ads speed do it by 10ms, which is less than 2/3's of even a single frame at 60fps.
The ones that hurt it will take you from 250ms to 410 🤣
They work on hip fire and range builds but definitely not any cqb builds
They went from attachments making a massive difference in Vanguard (damage boosting magazine or barrel attachments as well as vital) to most attachments hurting the gun more than it actually helps in mw2. Would be great if the devs could find some sort of middle ground.
They arguably did in MW 2019. It was possible to build a gun for lower recoil, which would hurt your ads a good bit, but then compensate with some ads improving attachments, and end up with something that has better recoil than stock, and the ads time is maybe only a little slower than stock thanks to your choices. Or you could do the opposite. I used to run a CQB SCAR-H build in 2019 that had the shortest barrel, no stock, a Lazer, and the stippled grip tape. So 4-5 attachments to max out mobility, at the expense of atrocious recoil. But, I'd slap a foregrip on it, lose a little of the ADS speed I got, but still get plenty, and tame the recoil down enough so that it was manageable if still high. If you tried that in this game, aka put a gun max movement then slapped a foregrip or a muzzle break on it to compensate, you'd basically kill all the ADS speed benefits you got with that one attachment and the recoil would still suck.
If you suck at building this is what they do.
Ads speed is way less important this year than the youtubers are pretending.
@TheStrangerTruth IK, it was really awesome, It made playing with the Gunsmith really fun, almost every non meta gun had a interesting quirky build you could throw together for funzies
They want you to tune the guns to minimize the cons. Try your best not to have any red whatsoever once your build is complete. You can't really go too crazy with attachments before tuning is unlocked though, unless you balance out the attachments by attaching the laser that increases ADS speed + Grip/ Comb/Stock that increases ADS speed if you have one of those barrels/muzzles that reduces ADS like crazy.
@@Sgt.chickens yea bc the devs made the game just aim and dont rush. ads speed is important and mw2019 had it right you could optimize for both as a middle ground. MW2's gunsmith is trash. The game is ads and win atm.
Your Little LMG build is exactly how I've been running the PDSW 528, based. So much fun this gun.
In both MW19 and MW22, the P90 is consistently my favorite and go-to gun. First Gold/Platinum too. It’s just fun, consistent and I don’t feel “dirty” using it at all. It just a solid weapon without me screaming internally when others use it cuz of any imbalance it has. It’s lovely.
What do you think of it now? It’s still good but maybe it isn’t as good relative to the other SMGs as it was at launch, since others got buffed.
@@bobdarrick2628 it’s personally still my favorite because of the high base capacity and my setup with it (if you want my attachment and/or tuning setup lmk). Part of it is just that I love the P90 in general, and it’s such a solid and reliable weapon in just about every match. It’s also the only weapon I have Platinum on (I am not a very skilled player so grinding for skins when there’s no Shoothouse or Shipment is hard 😔).
@@jalakor you can play hardcore for longshots. Probably should if you’re doing SMGs - doing them on Shoot House in core I don’t know if that is a good idea.
@@bobdarrick2628 I used Shoothouse and the big team battle mode for my longshots on the P90, but I’ll keep that in mind for guns like the Vector :)
Your visuals for tuning and accessories are GREAT dude! Really intuitive, easy to understand and even the before and after recoil patterns are there. Wish in-game stat screens would look anything like this. Least they could do is show us the sight picture for choosing scopes since there’s a billion thermal types and stuff
Only thing I can say as a critique, maybe change the player model from ghost to a plain figure as to keep it nice and minimalist. That and I am spoiled by XboxAhoy's old weapon guides where he kept things minimalist but very well done.
When you posted that First MWII video & when he flashed you & then you cut to the gunsmith that was sooooo sick man & I like it a lot it’s clever & I hope you keep doing stuff like this going forward
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was the first gun i got gold, in the first couple of days and it hasn’t left slot 1 since, it’s great
One of my personal favorite guns in the game, glad to have a guide for it now!
Been waiting on this one. Thanks Ace!
I'm early thanks ace! Been using most of your gun guides with success including the minibak recently (what a beast)
These video he does makes me realize how much we took drift0r for granted, the depth he went into and the amount of videos he put out in a short amount of time was honestly amazing
I do like there's variety on how the weapons are used. What would be the point of having 50 different SMGs if they are gonna behave the same?
Exactly!! Majority of then behave the same. But there's no point in using many if any SMGs over the Vaznev
@@WAZOWSKI_58 Vaznev is nasty!
Keep up the good work bro!
I really like the blue line in the recoil charts. It really helps see the horizontal recoil!
You missed the stargate build where you put on attachments to make it look most like what they use in the tv show :D That's the most important build for this beauty.
Hitmarker machine
Honestly this is in my top 5 guns because I find it a lot of fun. Gotta try that little LMG build
How good do you think the P90 is now?
This man is doing amazing work. IW need to listen to him about more stat figures. Other than that only commenting to help the man get a bump in the algorithm, the least the COD community can do 👍
Another gun that just "feels" solid. Weapon balance is overall good minus the ridiculous attatchement setup and a few OP/UP weapons
Finally thank you!
Appreciate your info and help
My favorite gun! 50 round clip is great, fast rpm, very low recoil
I like that they gave the guns using the 5.7mm that higher bullet velocity, helps differentiate them rather than having all the smgs be slower than ars
1 thing I noticed for the gun guide series is that the barrels that boost your ads time are so small, but the barrels that hurt your ads time the change is massive or noticeable.
Looks like I'm reconfiguring my classes to take off as many barrels as possible.
The balance on the ads time of speeding it up or slowing it down isn't as fair.
Yeah I just never use barrel attachments because I don’t know the exact stats and in general they all suck
What, you don’t like when you add a barrel and go from an 8m to 10m maximum damage range and get an LMG ADS speed?
Ngl I used the integrated sight rail, and if you can get used to it, it's pretty nice. Depending on what ur doing, the benefits outweigh the less clean optic. Im not really challenging long range fights, so it's perfect for mid-close where you don't really need as clean of a sight.
My favorite thing to do with the P90 is shoot at someone, watch them enter cover, stop shooting for a split second, then watch as they walk out into the back 20 rounds of my mag. It's great
I really appreciate you pointing out the longshot build. For guns that struggle at ranges could you consider doing a range build for them as well?
This is my favorite gun and my choice when playing. I use the 9" barrel to promote speed for myself.
I think the rails help recoil more than anything because they make it more vertical and seems to help get rid of the zigzag especially that light rails it’s almost completely vertical now
Favorite SMG
you forgot to mention how fast the ttk is with the 3 shot potential, 2 headshots and one body shot makes it a 3 shot kill
132ms
Everyone in Warzone just uses the Fennec or MP5, but I’ve had a surprising amount of success with just the ground loot version of the P90 (the one with the holo sight). It has excellent strafe speed and easy to control recoil, and the bullet velocity really helps for those mid range fights. I haven’t tried making a dedicated class for it yet since I don’t have it completely leveled, but anyone else out there have recommendations for a WZ setup?
Really glad that it has such a hot round
The p90 in 2019 did as well, eventually we'll get the Five-seveN in a cod game again, pretty sure blops 2 was the last
PDSW has been the best gun in Tier One so far out of the smgs for me because of the high cap mag, low recoil, crazy bullet velocity and the amazing fire rate. I find myself never losing gun fights except for poor accuracy moments. Even at long range.
What attachments do you run for it in tier one?
Just got the p90 to platinum and am currently working on the rest of the smgs
Favorite gun ever
Well that's nice Mr Ace, I just got to this one on the gold grind. Have to say, the iron sights are bloody awful, but the gun seems to be pretty decent
i love running this in shoot house with integrated optics and vlk laser.
basically the fastest ads speed i can
This and WhoIsImmortal are great channels
I'd argue the reflex rail actually buffs the recoil in terms of horizontal recoil. Throw on a vertical recoil muzzle and kit out for hip fire and you might have one of the best all around builds for an SMG
Finally Aces channel is growing after a long period of stagnation ! Lets get Ace to 1 mil to show appreciation for all the work he does for this community !
I’ve been using this gun in warzone. I use a different build. If you are good with head shots it is a very good gun.
How you described this as a weird smg/ar hybrid… that’s how I feel about the BAS-P like it’s an SMG but it feels like it wants to be used more like an AR with SMG qualities but doesn’t really do the AR stuff that well either
The high bullet velocity made this feel pretty consistent but it still needs some small buffs. Both 7 shot ranges need to be removed and limb damage raised enough to where 8 shot kills are no longer a thing
The man
The light rail is one of the best attachments ace, feel like you are really over looking it because of the minimal recoil addition that you never notice when controlling recoil.
how so? how much does it increase move speed to make up for that added recoil?
In what possible way? The one with the integrated sight has actual benefits, the light rail destroys your much needed recoil (since on average this hit marker machine needs 5 hits) and gives you like 3% faster movement.
@@voorachter2733 less visual recoil
Try all ADS attachments (minus laser) including the duke barrel. Use the suppressor with the best range to handling ratio and an optic as well. You must know you're weapons limitations and play to its strengths. As nice as the 7mw is for ADS its extremely revealing and the p90 doesn't have the firepower to go head to head with most meta weapons people are going to be running. You should be centering your aim where you expect the enemy to be and constantly LT spamming around the map.
I can't wait for the LMGs.
Would be nice to have a build using only the attachments unlocked by a particular gun. In case you don't have every other gun in the game maxed to use any attachment you want.
If you want to try viewer builds, here's mine. I call it "Hip or Pre-aim":
Schlager Ulo-66
Avr-T90
17" Corvus Prorange
Phase-3 Grip
Cronen Mini Red Dot
Sprint out time with this gun when you tune for it is absolutely insane.
This is my favorite smg right up there with the mp5 and mp7 especially in Warzone 🤫🤫
The bullet velocity makes sense Because its a bullpup so it already has a higher velocity than most smg because of the longer barrel, and it also chambered in 5.7 which has a faster bullet velocity than the standard 9mm.
Anytime a FPS game has a P90 of any kind, it’s a go to gun for me. I haven’t found any game where this weapon sucks. This was my first gun I got gold, very fun gun
Infinity Ward really needs to halve the ADS penalties for EVERY BARREL ATTACHMENT while doubling every ADS improvement to make any of the barrels worth using in this game.
Nah. They just have to improve Weapon Tuning in general.
Idk why but it's hands down my favourite MP in the game. It just feels like a laserbeam and a kill-chain machine with the 50rnd clip.
Same man, it feels fast and consistent and with right attachments it's like a laser, aim for the upper chest and let the recoil pul up into a head shot
50 round mag
Love this gun, idk why but I always go on mean tears once I've gotten used to it
Magazine, not clip .
It's by far my least favorite smg. It just doesn't feel consistent. I can't count the amount of times I got dropped by someone using the vaznek or 74u even though I shot first just due to the slower ttk
I like this one very much. Pair it up as a secondary with an AR or another smg like 9K and it's nearly a beat mode
Lol
I've gotten used to the integrated reflex rail sight and its not that bad at all. It's a solid attachment given the circumstances. I mean, 80% of the kills you want to go for with the gun are close-mid range anyway, so just put the square around the heart and you're golden
What I found out about this the other day:
1. Don’t use a barrel, use the flash hider for recoil stabilisation (because grips are out of the question)
2. Don’t worry too much about hurting your bullet velocity a bit.
3. When built right, it is overpowered.
Getting platinum with those long shots its insanely hard with current state of SMG.
I knew it was weak but I had some fun using. Vaznev and Mp5 insane tho
It's cool that they made the 5.7x28 ballistics similar to the actual round in real life. 5.7 is a very flat shooting round that has almost no drop within 100 yards.
My favorite gun in the game. Damn near a laser beam.
The super easy to control recoil paired with the high bullet velo, massive magazine, sub 200ms TTK potential up close with respectable ttk at range makes this one of the most slept on SMGs and i personally think it can compete favorably against all the smgs other than the fannec. Also the reload with fast hands isnt painfully long, surprised the pros havent at least tried this as a flex SMG. I honestly feel its that good at least in my hands.
I like that they have a fast bullet velocity but it still shouldn’t be faster than 5.56 rifles which are much faster
I'm ready for the snipers lol. All I use are snipers/marksman rifles and the kastov 762 lol
I really hate how they’re balancing the SMGs in this game. It’s been such a slog getting them gold because so many SMGs have horrible damage range drop offs, strange and poor attachment balancing, and terrible visual recoil. I really hope we see some major balance adjustments with S1 reloaded but I doubt it.
I know what you mean. Ive used smgs in very cod but this game just makes them feel so inconsistent. I get destroyed by ARs at every range unless I'm barrel stuffing
@@destroyallnattys1196 I’ve lost so many gunfights with an SMG at “range” (playing on shoot house, not even the middle lane, so the range isn’t even anything insane) where I’ve just laughed afterwards because I got a ton of hit markers, dumped my mag, and still couldn’t get the kill.
The guns being peashooters and poor hit detection have made for such a frustrating and inconsistent experience
@@destroyallnattys1196 SMGs should get destroyed by ARs at every range, mobility is what they're designed to do better than ARs, not damage.
@@KekusMagnus even in the real world, this is not the case lmao. SMGs are designed to down you as fast as they can in close to mid range since they don’t over penetrate
@@KekusMagnus strafing and flacking don't work well in this game. That is what an SMG is for.
Light rail adds vertical recoil but reduces horizontal- easy to correct
Ik the stats aren't there, but somehow this gun just works for me.
this is my fav smg in tier 1, the aug is my fav ar in tier 1, also, could you include the kill shots range for tier 1 in these range charts?
This model would be something FN would do if they made a 2nd gen P90. Improved grip angle and modern optics rail
It is a worse version of the existing P90. The grip is more angular, gets caught on clothing and gear easier plus the P90 already has variants with rails. The PDSW528's top rail is worse than the real life one as it's only connected to the chassis from the front, making it less stable and flexes more.
@@stardust_2339 if you’ve ever fired a weapon you know a vertical grip angle leads to less fatigue in your wrists. A company makes a rail similar to the one in the game it’s actually built into the entire receiver as 1 piece it holds zero and is lower to the bore.
On the way to a mil
Best smg for ads movement making it my top smg because in this game you can’t sprint unless u wanna get beeeemed😅
I picked it up from safecracker and goddamn the only thing that killed me was the gas and a window glitch.
COD youtubers tomorrow: PDSW İS HITSCAN!!
Is there any resource that lists the penetration abilities of guns with and without AP ammo?
Video 10 asking Ace to add Tier 1 ranges back into his gun guides
Hmmm I actually kinda want to try this in a warzone build if the bullet velocity is soo good
I love the p90 in all cods but definitely a peashooter lolll
Just max out the range and boost the hipfire accuracy a bit. This thing slays in hip fire. I never ADS unless I'm peaking a corner so the ADS speed doesn't matter as much in that situation.
Most SMGs in this game were made with hip fire in mind.
The Stargate Gun. I'll always use it in every game I can no matter how bad it is.
Ever since stargate SG1 and Atlantis its always been my favorite SMG.
These really are amazing videos but your inflection on "if you haven't already" is bizarre haha, is it pre recorded?
How does adding a rail to a gun hurt the recoil control irl? Would it really hurt to have some attachments without any cons.
I feel like half of the gun guides so far have included "assault rifle smg hybrid"
Not sure how i feel about balance like that
My favourite gun in every mw game and they go and misspell P90.
After the buff it's ridiculous glad I got it gold before it gets nerfed lol
When I was just leveling up this gun I got my first ever nuke with it
Crazy the p90 had the best ads speed in mw2019. with the right attachments it was less than 100 ms
6 or my 10 loadouts are currently smg and my p90 loadout consider one of the stronger ones
I hope at some point they add a pistol based on the FiveseveN so that this gun and the hurricane can share ammo with it
Especially now that there's more 5.7 pistol options to choose from. There's the FiveseveN, FN just came out with a Gen 3. But there's a few more like the Ruger 57 and the PSA 5.7 Rock.
Would be nice to see jump ads speeds too
About 3-5 business days for every gun
Just goes to show you how all these attachments acually make things more difficult than help. Probably took a lot of time from the devs to intergrate each attachments for each gun camo and bundle.
I love this gun. It just fries and the mag size is generous.
Lol no
@@helloyou807 Nah, fr. In my experience I have shredded with it. Idk if it's the gun, or if it's just my playstyle, but I love it
@@0uttaS1TE too slow compared to other smgs imo, might be my playstyle. but this weapon feels more like an hybrid ar with its velocity
@@helloyou807 I get what you're saying.
I’m not gonna lie. I hate the iron sites in this game they’re either really obstructive are very inaccurate due to all of the visual recoil either way I’m just glad I have my shit Orion haven’t touched the game in about a week or 2 been waiting for the midseason update to do something seeing as my dumbass decided to go for all the camos and Max out at 250 early I really hope in the next season they’re able to add more content because basically once you hit max level, there’s literally nothing to do in the game especially for those of us that have unlock all the cameras. Besides the remaining 1000 kills left over which I really don’t want to do just for a damn emblem
Just a heads up there is a way to get an “all round” build without any negatives while using 5 attachments
My build is great i love this thing