"You won't fire all 100 rounds anyway" - Me, who does not let go off of the trigger to chain those multikills or suppress fire in choke points... Fast hands is my friend
I usually die before I can even unleash that many rounds. Fast hands does nothing for me if I spawn with a new belt... TBH I guess I just suck at positioning.
He’s not being as thorough as he was with MW 2019 though which is kind of disappointing. I didn’t watch any gun guides for vanguard and only a few for Cold War so I don’t know when he stopped covering every single stat affected by a gun’s unique attachments but it would be nice if he started doing that again. I’d like to know how much each barrel and magazine will affect my movement speed, and he’s not even covering stock attachments at all
It still provides a lot of useful info, if you notice he's not using stocks or grips in this game nearly as much, whereas like stippled grip in mw2019 was a must. So he's focusing on the important attachments. And I'm disappointed in infinity ward for not having detailed stats, it's not Ace's fault they fuck up so much.
Against the grain I’ve always had an thing for lmgs in call of duty , not that I don’t appreciate the ability to move swiftly but the ability to kill hella ppl without having to reload is always slept on . Default mag size typcially frees up an attachment slot
Yeah the Aug lmg has crazy ads speed with its magazine attachments even having 2 or 3 attachments for recoil control the best one of the lazer attachments and an optic and it has a assault rifles ads even the 100 round mag doesn't make it that much slower.
I ranked this up with the canted laser which turns it into the chainsaw. Super accurate, on shipment you'll constantly be mowing people down from anywhere on the map
@@grrinc I believe they nerfed armor piercing rounds so now they dont do anything anymore against armor.. kinda sucks cause armor piercing rounds would be a life saver in the already difficult DMZ mode with so many level 3 bots
I like to run this with the canted laser, armor piercing rounds, 150 belt mag. The remainder is up your preference whether you want ads or recoil control. Lots of fun to just spray everything down. Even takes kill streaks out pretty easily. Definitely recommend trying it
One thing I love the Sakin was mostly its own personal Grip. Admit it, those who mainly use LMGs would love to have those grip designs when doing a gun and run plus it looks badass. First LMG I saw with this kind of grip was from R6 Siege Operator Gridlock that uses the M249 SAW with 60 mag and grip. If there was gonna be a new LMG in the future seasons. I can only hope it has a side grip regardless of its downsides.
Considering the practical real world TTK involves reaction, sprint to fire and ADS time I have always loved using an LMG on fast TTK cods. It removes so much of these factors that you can drop most players even as close as 10m if you play right. You still get dropped by SMG's and Shotguns at close range but every guns needs a counter otherwise they would just nerd the LMG's into the ground.
Ace- the technical term for that "open bolt delay" is "lock time". Open bolt delay might be better for communication with your viewers, but lock time is the technically correct term. t. Pedantic competition shooter
For real, he’s only covering half the information he used to cover in MW 2019. No stats for stocks, only telling us ads speeds for barrels and mags but ignoring the rest of their stat effects. Nothing about the grip attachments either. Idk how these videos are almost as long with half the information
@williamlittle2016 to be fair, I'm sure that hand testing all these values must take an annoyingly long time. He can't spend 24 hours a day in game after all
@@williamlittle2016 Because then it would take more than a week per video and they would be way too long, nobody would watch whole way through. also truegamedata is working on and will eventually have all stats for everything in game. It makes no sense at all for Ace to cover everything.
Seeing you start the LMG guides reminds me that I wish we had the M240B in this game. I really thought they would put it in here, I hope it becomes a dlc gun
dude I NEVER saw this thing and never used it once myself (yet somehow had it at lvl7). eventually picked a stock one up on WZ and it felt great. definitely want to make a WZ/DMZ build for it now to try it against my RAAL (which I love)
@@ESKATEUK the.... Worst LMG? What are you smoking? I got 3 AC130s on the same shipment game with it. I recommended it to a friend i was playing with. He proceeded to also get 3 AC130s on the same game. The RAPP H is a fucking BEEEEAST.
Sakin is a pretty fun weapon to use. I would always start hip firing while aiming down sight and it's close range damage is so good that the enemy I was shooting at was dead by the time I fully ADS'd with impressive frequency
This gun slaps in Invasion. I have been in the top 5 of all my matches since I started using it. 150 belt on with incendiary rounds is a chopper killer. I even took a juggernaut out by myself yesterday.
I love running the MG83, RAAL, and Icarus on DMZ. I've been waiting for the LMG gun guides. Running this with the canted laser and 150 round mag is really fun.
The MG38 is definitely a very chonky boi to use, but it can be fun and gets the job done! I'd use it more often if the ADS and reload speed wasn't as slow as it is, but it's a decent choice for a change of pace.
Yea I was just refreshing my memory with the sakin and I heard it I don't think I heard that the first time I watched this. But it's definitely a rare oopsie by Ace I thought something was wrong with my phone or internet.
did this one first just to get the magma digital camo, best non mastery camo in the game by far, no scratches (also chrysolite and 8 bit, but I don't like those as much)
Found out how good this gun is by complete accident picked it up off an enemy body and did fantastic with it, even getting a juggernaut! Then the juggernaut marker fell through the earth
I love how in all the background gameplay u shown, all ur enemy are deaf and only half the brain working. but in my lobbys they can hear into the future and jump around like crackheads and never miss a shot. i have a less than 1 kd btw
I've always had a soft spot for the Negev, and so it's my AA gun of choice in this game. That said, let's be honest - we all know which LMG guide we're waiting for.
Great video Ace, thank you for doing this! There is a little editing glitch at ~2:05 (voice line). I don't know if that could be still edited. If not, don't worry, the video is great anyway. If yes, please feel free to delete my comment after fixing it. Keep up the great work!!
For such a slow firing and handling weapon with an open bolt delay, it needs a headshot buff to at least 50 damage so it can 2 shot if you hit both in a row
@@then64shooter to be fair it doesn’t really depend on the ammo, at least not entirely. The LAMG (Finn LMG) also has very, very low recoil in .308, and it’s because the bolt doesn’t even hit the back, creating felt recoil
@TheXclusiveAce, couple of months ago you posted a video regarding shadowbans, now I’m stuck in a loop. My accounts Under Review for a while now and since it’s Christmas I can’t play game normally until they (Activision Employees) get back from the holidays. Why is it still a thing now?
Since gaming monitors come with built in crosshairs you can turn on.. is there really any point to adding a red dot type optic since you've already got a red dot built into the monitor and optics reduce ADS time?
It might have gotten a buff between the beta and release, but it's been fairly solid since launch. I still feel that the mag fed lmgs and the raal are better options, but the sakin's not bad.
Hey ace I realize it might not be in the analysis side of things, but can you do a video on tracers and dismemberment effects in mw2 I feel like I’m missing something cause I can’t use a different ammo type with the “nice” blueprint of the victus xmr if I want to keep the effects on the ammo
Yeah I miss when he'd tell us how much the barrels would reduce/increase movement speed by, that's a huge factor for me in my class setups that just doesn't get mentioned anymore
Unfortunately not. There are far too many attachments this time around and I want to be able to finish the series in a reasonable amount of time. I’m already putting a ton of time into each of these episodes so adding even more on top of it isn’t viable
1) it’s ok to be a lil realistic 2) jt can be good for balance, such as to make the otherwise insane ttk of the raal a lil more reasonable, and makes you play more like an lmg where you’re spraying instead of firing in bursts like with assault rifles, since you wanna avoid that delay
Ace! Please put your opinions/thoughts on the gun up first please. It gives us a chance to watch the game play and notice the things of what u like and dislike about it.
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"You won't fire all 100 rounds anyway" - Me, who does not let go off of the trigger to chain those multikills or suppress fire in choke points... Fast hands is my friend
Get some...
Me, who didn't ask
Honestly it's kinda broken on objective reapwan mode because you can force chokes by just holding down the 150 round trigger
I usually die before I can even unleash that many rounds. Fast hands does nothing for me if I spawn with a new belt... TBH I guess I just suck at positioning.
*Enemies* "I am suppressed"
I have to say, I’ve never seen this guy produce this much gun guides in 2 months.
He’s not being as thorough as he was with MW 2019 though which is kind of disappointing. I didn’t watch any gun guides for vanguard and only a few for Cold War so I don’t know when he stopped covering every single stat affected by a gun’s unique attachments but it would be nice if he started doing that again. I’d like to know how much each barrel and magazine will affect my movement speed, and he’s not even covering stock attachments at all
@@williamlittle2016 every video would be more than half an hour if he did all that. Unnecessary imo
@@williamlittle2016 yep I noticed that too, he just throws these gun guides out, doesn’t even cover most of the stats. Pretty disappointing really.
It still provides a lot of useful info, if you notice he's not using stocks or grips in this game nearly as much, whereas like stippled grip in mw2019 was a must. So he's focusing on the important attachments. And I'm disappointed in infinity ward for not having detailed stats, it's not Ace's fault they fuck up so much.
Many*^
Against the grain I’ve always had an thing for lmgs in call of duty , not that I don’t appreciate the ability to move swiftly but the ability to kill hella ppl without having to reload is always slept on . Default mag size typcially frees up an attachment slot
Yeah the Aug lmg has crazy ads speed with its magazine attachments even having 2 or 3 attachments for recoil control the best one of the lazer attachments and an optic and it has a assault rifles ads even the 100 round mag doesn't make it that much slower.
Same here! Love LMG’s💪🏾💯
@@habijjj personal favorites are the rpk and RAAL
LMG appreciation thread yooo
With the 4875828 different attachments available for each gun(and no detailed stats on any of them)...your gun guides are a godsend my man
Why does the game need THAT many attachments?..
I ranked this up with the canted laser which turns it into the chainsaw. Super accurate, on shipment you'll constantly be mowing people down from anywhere on the map
Oh man, chainsaw was one of my favorite guns in CoD, I hadn't even thought about slapping canted on an LMG to try to replicate it.
Bro I absolutely agree. Things so op with canted laser. I also used it with a monitor crosshair that I can turn on 🤣
A Sakin with a 150 belt is great in DMZ, specially when you are surrounded by 10 bots with full armor
Use incendiary 🔥
@@knrz2562 not armour piercing?
@@grrinc I believe they nerfed armor piercing rounds so now they dont do anything anymore against armor.. kinda sucks cause armor piercing rounds would be a life saver in the already difficult DMZ mode with so many level 3 bots
Finally, my favorite class of guns, the LMGs. Can't wait for the RAAL
That thing is an absolute 2-shot beast, definitely is a joy to use at times
@@Kaiokendrew first gun I chromed, so good
I like to run this with the canted laser, armor piercing rounds, 150 belt mag. The remainder is up your preference whether you want ads or recoil control. Lots of fun to just spray everything down. Even takes kill streaks out pretty easily. Definitely recommend trying it
Going to level it up and try it right now. Lmao
Great video, Ace!! The LMGs really shine in DMZ, especially against hordes of Tier 3 AI, or "DMZ hunters". I will give your build a spin!
Yeah plus the rpd and aug can be given smaller mags from their assault rifle versions.
I really enjoy using the LMGs as Ace said if you treat them like LMGS you can dominate mid to long range
you know what would make it perfect? A target finder like the one in BO2
Fuk dat😂
I hate you lol
Bro the fat boy with lays and doritos😂😂
And lobby’s whit out that fcking sbmm
Dont remind me of that damn thing
One thing I love the Sakin was mostly its own personal Grip.
Admit it, those who mainly use LMGs would love to have those grip designs when doing a gun and run plus it looks badass.
First LMG I saw with this kind of grip was from R6 Siege Operator Gridlock that uses the M249 SAW with 60 mag and grip.
If there was gonna be a new LMG in the future seasons. I can only hope it has a side grip regardless of its downsides.
Considering the practical real world TTK involves reaction, sprint to fire and ADS time I have always loved using an LMG on fast TTK cods. It removes so much of these factors that you can drop most players even as close as 10m if you play right. You still get dropped by SMG's and Shotguns at close range but every guns needs a counter otherwise they would just nerd the LMG's into the ground.
Ace- the technical term for that "open bolt delay" is "lock time". Open bolt delay might be better for communication with your viewers, but lock time is the technically correct term.
t. Pedantic competition shooter
This is the most LMG out of all of them. Also has the largest base ammo capacity out of all of them. Definitely my favorite camping gun
Ace, I'm missing the "Fast Hands" perk reload time for the gun guides... it can make a significant difference for LMGs and Snipers!
For real, he’s only covering half the information he used to cover in MW 2019. No stats for stocks, only telling us ads speeds for barrels and mags but ignoring the rest of their stat effects. Nothing about the grip attachments either. Idk how these videos are almost as long with half the information
@williamlittle2016 to be fair, I'm sure that hand testing all these values must take an annoyingly long time. He can't spend 24 hours a day in game after all
You think this pile of shit deserves Ace's time?
Infinity Turd should never make another game ever again
He has a fast hands video, just do the math yourself.. Remember the percentage change if you use the perk and it's a simple 1 step math problem
@@williamlittle2016 Because then it would take more than a week per video and they would be way too long, nobody would watch whole way through. also truegamedata is working on and will eventually have all stats for everything in game. It makes no sense at all for Ace to cover everything.
love the sound of the sakin and mg Raal they sound sooo good!
I would love to see a wall bang guide! I can’t tell what armor piercing actually goes through, I think cod is moving away from wallbang in general
Yeah, either they made walls in general harder to wallbang, or they don't use wood panels nearly as often as they should
Well, Vanguard had a shit ton of wallbanging, so it's good that they are dialing it back a bit from that.
@@cipherpac it adds to the gameplay, when everything is not made of cardboard boxes and every gun has a 100 round mag at least
Yeah they don’t seem to work. I’ve tried using them and can’t seem to shoot through anything and that’s on the RAAL.
I don't know how many times I try to wall banged someone through a container door in shipment and it never works.
Seeing you start the LMG guides reminds me that I wish we had the M240B in this game. I really thought they would put it in here, I hope it becomes a dlc gun
This is probably the most slept on LMG in the game, it's got the damage and pretty good recoil control, definitely would prefer this over the RAPP H
So you’d definitely prefer it over the worst lmg lol
dude I NEVER saw this thing and never used it once myself (yet somehow had it at lvl7). eventually picked a stock one up on WZ and it felt great. definitely want to make a WZ/DMZ build for it now to try it against my RAAL (which I love)
@@ESKATEUK to be fair I didn't really used it much before the camo grind but not that I got platinum on it I can confidently say that it's great
@@ESKATEUK the.... Worst LMG?
What are you smoking? I got 3 AC130s on the same shipment game with it. I recommended it to a friend i was playing with. He proceeded to also get 3 AC130s on the same game. The RAPP H is a fucking BEEEEAST.
@@ESKATEUK worst LMG? The Rapp H is awesome bro
DUDE YOU ARE A GOD SEND!! I love this gun and i know it has its drawback but its so damn fun to play with! Thanks for the edge! Keep it up!
Sakin is a pretty fun weapon to use. I would always start hip firing while aiming down sight and it's close range damage is so good that the enemy I was shooting at was dead by the time I fully ADS'd with impressive frequency
This gun slaps in Invasion. I have been in the top 5 of all my matches since I started using it. 150 belt on with incendiary rounds is a chopper killer. I even took a juggernaut out by myself yesterday.
I love running the MG83, RAAL, and Icarus on DMZ. I've been waiting for the LMG gun guides. Running this with the canted laser and 150 round mag is really fun.
2:04 might wanna fix that cut
The MG38 is definitely a very chonky boi to use, but it can be fun and gets the job done! I'd use it more often if the ADS and reload speed wasn't as slow as it is, but it's a decent choice for a change of pace.
The Sakin (or any other LMG, really) is fast AF compared to the RAAL. Lol.
@@kasper_429 Yeah, but the RAAL makes up for it by shredding.
@@daedalus6433 True. It burns through AI armor like butter in DMZ.
With all the LMG's i feel the canted aiming laser is the way to go for an aggressive build
sakin, the lmg i levelled up solely to get through that airport mission in dmz
Remember, no Russian. :)
2:05 a rare Ace oopsie 😂
Yea I was just refreshing my memory with the sakin and I heard it I don't think I heard that the first time I watched this. But it's definitely a rare oopsie by Ace I thought something was wrong with my phone or internet.
For a longer range build I really like the kazan holo optic. Nice and clean without the iron sights getting in the way.
Ads tuning is a must with this gun it’s a huge difference
Given that we're covering the LMGs could you take a look at the various bipod attachments on offer?
What I found nice with the Sakin is you can ADS build it and it feels good
This gun slaps on shipment. Go with the 150 and long barrel and just ADS and dump lead as you walk.
did this one first just to get the magma digital camo, best non mastery camo in the game by far, no scratches (also chrysolite and 8 bit, but I don't like those as much)
Found out how good this gun is by complete accident picked it up off an enemy body and did fantastic with it, even getting a juggernaut!
Then the juggernaut marker fell through the earth
I love how in all the background gameplay u shown, all ur enemy are deaf and only half the brain working. but in my lobbys they can hear into the future and jump around like crackheads and never miss a shot. i have a less than 1 kd btw
Absolutely love this gun. It'll certainly be in one of my loadouts when I finish the camo grind because it feels pretty quick with very low recoil.
Same here. Really enjoyed playing with this gun and will be part of my next go to load out.
Great recovery on the damage ranges.
I've always had a soft spot for the Negev, and so it's my AA gun of choice in this game.
That said, let's be honest - we all know which LMG guide we're waiting for.
Thank you been waiting for LMG gun guides.
When it comes to the LMG reload times, you should separate the belt-fed and mag-fed LMGs into their own averages.
No
150 rounds playing shipment 👌
Sakin aka IAI Negev 7.62mm
IWI not IAI. IAI is Israel aerospace industries (makes aircraft and air defense systems). IWI are the guys making the guns.
SAKIN MG38 is based on IWI Negev NG7
Also the last episode of Gun guide FTAC Recon is based on MkW-15 Anvil Battle rifle, I’m just letting you know
Stupid question about open bolt delay? Is that every time you pull trigger or the first time after reloading?
Every time you pull the trigger
Thanks @@erick333x!
Great video Ace, thank you for doing this! There is a little editing glitch at ~2:05 (voice line). I don't know if that could be still edited. If not, don't worry, the video is great anyway. If yes, please feel free to delete my comment after fixing it.
Keep up the great work!!
Not a glitch
I think he left in a failed take hehe
Happens tbh
I noticed that the rear grip descriptions are swapped for the two of the grips. The Stip-40 grip and the Bruen G305 grip wrap.
I was really hoping they'd use the Sakin as the platform for the Galil since they're related... oh well! Still the coolest LMG in the game!
There's still hope for 5.56x45 Galil ARM
Galil has its own LMG variant.
For such a slow firing and handling weapon with an open bolt delay, it needs a headshot buff to at least 50 damage so it can 2 shot if you hit both in a row
Great video! Cant wait for the rpk guide
2:05 a bloop, *I’m immersed*
I was pleasantly surprised by this LMG, for being such a high caliber rifle it still was very lasery at least how i build it
7.62mm for most guns brings tons of recoil (e.g. the Lachmann 762) but I entirely agree with you on this one, it’s pretty good.
@@then64shooter that's because irl this thing weighs around 30lbs vs 10 for the average 308 rifle
@@then64shooter to be fair it doesn’t really depend on the ammo, at least not entirely. The LAMG (Finn LMG) also has very, very low recoil in .308, and it’s because the bolt doesn’t even hit the back, creating felt recoil
Got my first VTOL with this gun a week ago
Great guide I will level this gun next. I would also point out that this is an LMG.
My favorite war crime mg ❤️
the day ace makes a recommended class without a fss ole-v will be weird
@TheXclusiveAce, couple of months ago you posted a video regarding shadowbans, now I’m stuck in a loop. My accounts Under Review for a while now and since it’s Christmas I can’t play game normally until they (Activision Employees) get back from the holidays. Why is it still a thing now?
They really buffed this thing HARD after the beta, thank god
Its solid for sure. I just never got around to using it since I like the icarus so much
I like throwing the canted laser on this gun. Maybe it's not the best setup, but it feels badass to use laser aiming with an lmg
LMGs all seem pretty good in this game which is surprising
Shoutout to the low firerate LMG doing less damage than the 7.62 AK. At least this gun does kinda kick it at range, I guess.
Excellent video as per normal. There is an audio fault at 2:05 when I watched it on both iPhone and iPad.
Just thought you’d like to know 👍🏻
I use overkill with this and the RAAL just to shoot down people who camp in transport helicopters in warzone just to be annoying lol…
This gun is beast. Just got it gold yesterday.
Negev ng7
Since gaming monitors come with built in crosshairs you can turn on.. is there really any point to adding a red dot type optic since you've already got a red dot built into the monitor and optics reduce ADS time?
I mean if ur gonna be like that then ig run iron sights… I just don’t like the frame
Bro this thing melts faces
Yay! The LMGs are here!
Negev my beloved Yandere
Negev-chan my beloved
Lmgs feel rlly good this time around
Can’t wait til he does the HCR. Something tells me that gun is great.
I have a class setup with armor piercing and 150 bullets just for when the enemy calls vtol.
I don’t like LMGs but the sakin is really nice honestly
obligatory “GET SOME!!!” When mag dumping
NEGEV FROM CSGO
Did it get a buff recently because I felt a noticeable difference after the recent updates
It might have gotten a buff between the beta and release, but it's been fairly solid since launch. I still feel that the mag fed lmgs and the raal are better options, but the sakin's not bad.
Amazing for DMZ
I only use lmgs after religiously saying no Russian and I do not stop until that box is empty...
Ace has found a way to improve handling and recoil using attachments. IW will nerf something now no doubt.
This gun got the AI in DMZ Sakin deez nuts
Negev go brr
No section for the unique grips?
Question: Could you compare the bipod grip between regular grips and bipods
I just go all in in on ads with lmgs in general. Most of them don't feel much worse in the recoil department.
Ace I think killstreak damage would be a good stat to evaluate for the LMGs. That might take too much work though idk
Cant decide if i want to use this or the raal
fun fact this is actually the Negev lol
Can we get a slight of hand video?
Hey ace I realize it might not be in the analysis side of things, but can you do a video on tracers and dismemberment effects in mw2 I feel like I’m missing something cause I can’t use a different ammo type with the “nice” blueprint of the victus xmr if I want to keep the effects on the ammo
Can we go back to the mw2019 gun guide level of detail?
Yeah I miss when he'd tell us how much the barrels would reduce/increase movement speed by, that's a huge factor for me in my class setups that just doesn't get mentioned anymore
Unfortunately not. There are far too many attachments this time around and I want to be able to finish the series in a reasonable amount of time. I’m already putting a ton of time into each of these episodes so adding even more on top of it isn’t viable
@@TheXclusiveAce gotcha, thanks for the response
I literally just finished longshots with the SAKIN MG38 this morning about 12 hours ago. It was the last platinum I needed for polyatomic. ):
Finally, a 7.62 SAW
The squad automatic weapon is 5.56
@@Xander_Park no shit guy, you just figure that out
What's the idea behind open bolt delay? Outside of trying to try for realism?
1) it’s ok to be a lil realistic
2) jt can be good for balance, such as to make the otherwise insane ttk of the raal a lil more reasonable, and makes you play more like an lmg where you’re spraying instead of firing in bursts like with assault rifles, since you wanna avoid that delay
Ace the legend 🫡
Ace! Please put your opinions/thoughts on the gun up first please. It gives us a chance to watch the game play and notice the things of what u like and dislike about it.
This would’ve been so much better if I already hadn’t gotten all the LMGs gold
Sakin is the best in DMZ suport weapon.