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  • The Sky/STARZ historical drama, Mary and George TV series exposes the true story gay life of King James I with a focus on George Villiers, Duke of Buckingham , his last, longest and most dangerous of his courtiers. George was groomed by his mother, Mary Villiers, to seduce the gay king but others came before him.
    In this documentary video, we will explore all of King James' relationships including the most notorious of them all - that of the kings last, and some say, most dangerous of favorites, George Villiers
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  • @fabulouswomeninhistory
    @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 месяцев назад +41

    Full documentary style video! In my research I found free books to read onine. Find the links in my community ► www.youtube.com/@fabulouswomeninhistory/community

    • @tundrawomansays694
      @tundrawomansays694 5 месяцев назад +8

      I haven’t checked into your hyperlink yet but I got a State Library Card and it’s great. I believe all states have these and it opens up a whole world of books, audiobooks etc. Best wishes to all!

    • @maxalberts2003
      @maxalberts2003 5 месяцев назад +4

      The rules did not apply to him. The rules HE CREATED did not apply to him. When I read about these historical times, often using Shakespeare for reference, it would seem that the Royals behaved like the gods on Mount Olympus. Irrational, even mad behavior, neither "justified" nor rationalized, simply "happened" on a daily basis and no one seemed to pay any attention. Behavior without consequences. QUERY: Did the so-called "common people" simply accept their rulers' behavior and double standards prima facie? Did the people not perceive their rulers as human beings just like themselves? Obviously, Shakespeare did, and he reveled in it. Where was the "disconnect" in the minds of the common people? It's as if a big chunk of analytical , judgmental thought--or the capacity for it--was absent from the brains and minds of the common people. What explains this? It would also seem that the extreme primitiveness of their economy and the absence of science were also symptomatic of this specific type of retardation. What was the "X Factor"? The plague? I'm genuinely curious.

    • @julianpetkov8320
      @julianpetkov8320 5 месяцев назад +4

      After the death of Henry VIII, the Greek oligarchy orchestrated a silent coup and installed an anonymous man known as the "Virgin Queen" for obvious reasons - men can't give birth. Henry VIII is hated because he paid his loans to the Greek oligarchy by confiscating their properties. This is why they took over and created a fake dynasty of hired impostors subservient to them, to this day. This was the beginning of the "new" Greek Empire, euphemistically known as "the British".

    • @therealgodessisis
      @therealgodessisis 4 месяца назад

      🤢 his poor wife

    • @birmagustafsson5807
      @birmagustafsson5807 18 дней назад

      The Swedish King Charles XIV, imported from France 🇫🇷, as one of Napoleon's officers, was also gay/bi. We ran out of royalty after the scandalous last king died in exile.

  • @pagemastrogiovanni9195
    @pagemastrogiovanni9195 5 месяцев назад +29

    King James was gay in preference and bisexual in actions for reasons of the need for progeny to continue the lineage.

  • @tyronevincent1368
    @tyronevincent1368 5 месяцев назад +59

    Homosexuality is old as the lava that sprews from volcanos

    • @watthaile2053
      @watthaile2053 5 месяцев назад +15

      And the glorious lava that the men themselves spewed.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 месяцев назад +5

      You got that right!

    • @tyronevincent1368
      @tyronevincent1368 5 месяцев назад +3

      @@watthaile2053 Exactly! heterosexual status quo supported and barricaded by Abrahamic Chistendom, hás buried, continue to bury the major contributions good and bad of homosexual historical figures to name a few Julius César, Abraham Lincoln, Adolf Hitler, Michelangelo. The list is most likely longer, as King James l.

    • @p.gilfry5623
      @p.gilfry5623 5 месяцев назад +5

      @@tyronevincent1368 oh please

    • @lilymarinovic1644
      @lilymarinovic1644 5 месяцев назад +10

      ​@tyronevincent1368 some of your examples (such as Julius Caesar) were bisexual rather than gay. He was known by his critics as "every woman's husband - and every man's wife"

  • @JoseighBlogs
    @JoseighBlogs 5 месяцев назад +13

    Wow! What a wonderful and comprehensively told story of King James 1st of England and of his court and courtiers with all the attendant courtly intrigues explored among players of the Jacobean court? Such a fascinating picture thoroughly explained of those times. Thank you 🙂

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 месяцев назад +3

      Thank you for the positive feedback. Helps me to stay motivated😊

  • @Figgatella
    @Figgatella 5 месяцев назад +23

    I would highly caution not to use television shows as a method of research. Movies take liberties with facts and stretch them to make them more interesting.

    • @annastinehammersdottir1290
      @annastinehammersdottir1290 5 месяцев назад +2

      'Mary and George' was a vehicle for sexy and shallow entertainment and the actor miscast as George Villiers was awful. Too bad because it is an interesting story all on its own, as is most of history.

    • @Dan-xx5jq
      @Dan-xx5jq 5 месяцев назад +1

      Although the facts speak for themselves...he was taking these men to bed with him and rewarding them with gifts. Had he been doing it to a woman everyone would have no problem believing it to be true. Isn't that strange?

    • @brandonrohrbaugh59
      @brandonrohrbaugh59 4 месяца назад

      Those boys got stretched!!

  • @ServraghGiorsal
    @ServraghGiorsal 5 месяцев назад +35

    Is this the King James associated with the revision to the King James Bible.???

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 месяцев назад +20

      Yes, this is the same King James who translated the King James Version of the bible.

    • @JohnShields-df8od
      @JohnShields-df8od 5 месяцев назад +21

      James the sixth and first did not translate the bible from Latin to Old English but he did commission the translation by the clergy.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 месяцев назад +7

      Yep. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @sibusisombatha1846
      @sibusisombatha1846 5 месяцев назад +9

      I wonder how all the theologians of the world felt about the KJV being named after a gay man?

    • @Mr--_--M
      @Mr--_--M 5 месяцев назад +23

      Yep. Bring this up to devout Christians and watch them get awkward and dismissive.

  • @teomac
    @teomac 4 месяца назад +18

    Well some Kings were bound to be homosexual, William III (of Orange) was also gay. The Royal Court probably didn’t care as long as he produced an heir and a spare.

    • @Laudon1228
      @Laudon1228 4 месяца назад +1

      By all accounts Richard I, the Lionheart was gay as well.

  • @Greeklings
    @Greeklings 4 месяца назад +15

    To everyone who keeps saying James was black...read a real history book! If you have no clue about the history of this time period and the real people involved then you have no idea what you're talking about. James I, King of England, aka James VI of Scotland, was white. His parents--Mary Queen of Scots and Lord Darnley--who were cousins--were white. Their parents were white. Their children were white.
    If you want to honor black people in history then actually honor black people in history, don't just make stuff up and get mad when anyone with any historical knowledge tells you the truth.
    On a kinder note, as usual, this channel is excellent!
    I legitimately feel sorry for James, especially when he was young. He had an absolutely terrible childhood and young adulthood--his mother was accused of ordering his father's murder, yet James was raised and brainwashed by the same men who plotted the murder of his father, the overthrow, imprisonment, and later execution of his mother because of the political and religious climate of the time. No wonder he was paranoid about witches, his tutors had really pulled a number on him. As soon as he found a father-figure or regent, the regent was murdered or kidnapped him. He was a pawn from day one. He thought becoming King of England would free him, but it only brought him another set of problems. He's so underrated! I don't think historians have given him a fair shake, when you look at his early life and the political context he was raised in, suddenly his behavior in the second portion of his life makes more sense. All the Stuarts are incredibly underrated and deserve more attention in non-fiction and fiction!

    • @Me-lc6bz
      @Me-lc6bz 4 месяца назад +2

      Exactly. Some of them are desperate to black wash white history cuz they feel insecure about their own... It makes me sad, with all the other real black beautiful history there is, and they choose to do this :(

    • @kathleenkayk
      @kathleenkayk 4 месяца назад +1

      Indeed! Thank you.

  • @jeremiahmiller4010
    @jeremiahmiller4010 5 месяцев назад +17

    King James the6th/and the 1st was 6parts gay and 1part king. He was gay outwardly because he was king. He had power and riches so he lived slightly above society. But, He was sly as a fox and used politics and religion to manage public opinion/ the press. As the monarch does to this day...He was and still is the master hypocrite who s bible translation is used to persecute gays and all LGBTQ...people. Thank you for this documentary...

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 месяцев назад +8

      You make a good point about the use of religion and politics for good PR while he lived and did what he wanted behind closed doors. Thanks for joining the conversation! P.S. You are welcome for the video. :)

  • @mmaphilosophy
    @mmaphilosophy 5 месяцев назад +12

    I read somewhere that King James was just into feminine men and women.
    No one ever mentions the fact he sometimes slept with ladys at the court because they concentrate on his relationships with men.
    The man was a post man and never the post box, ill just leave it like that 😂

    • @kekwayblaze3176
      @kekwayblaze3176 5 месяцев назад +4

      He would be considered bisexual by today's standards, but his preference was for attractive young men and married in order to produce heirs to the throne.

  • @lauramurdoch135
    @lauramurdoch135 5 месяцев назад +20

    There is a raging lack of understanding of cultural mores of the 16/17th century, for example, Queen Elizabeth of England slept with one of her female servants at night. Kissing a person of the same sex is, to this day, a European wide convention that does not reflect a person's sexuality and although the convention has fallen off in England, James was raised in Scotland which at that time identified far more with Europe than it did with England, a country which James viewed as a source of increased revenue. James was raised in the society of men exclusively all the way through his childhood and was more comfortable with men in general. That said, he enjoyed men more than women but his seven children reflect 1} his understanding that despite being a king by the divine right of God his principal task was to father heirs which he did with no small vigour and 2} he obviously derived more pleasure of congress with men more than women, he was probably more correctly bi-sexual, I don't believe that his own strict protestant upbringing would have allowed him to wholly embrace the notion of the homosexual side of his nature completely. This is a period of history when men wore just as much makeup as women and whose heels were as high, they were powdered and laced peacocks.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 месяцев назад +3

      Good commentary. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @lilymarinovic1644
      @lilymarinovic1644 5 месяцев назад +6

      James would have escaped comment had he only indulged in the conventional intimacies with his male favourites.
      Elizabeth was never accused of being lesbian merely for sharing a room or a bed with another woman.
      Then again she didn't exchange steamy letters with them or heap undeserved honours or power on them.
      She did with certain male favourites, so was accused of having affairs with them and not women. Unlike, say, Queen Christina of Sweden.

  • @ElicLlewellyn
    @ElicLlewellyn 5 месяцев назад +8

    Very Well Done! I'm impressed! Very helpul in my own research.

  • @3dhealthsafety931
    @3dhealthsafety931 5 месяцев назад +7

    You said James was in his 70's when he died, but he was born June 19, 1566 and died March 27, 1625. That makes him 59.

  • @AuntyKsTarot
    @AuntyKsTarot 5 месяцев назад +21

    As a Queer woman I don’t care if King James was gay or bi. He was obsessed with witch hunting. He is also responsible for the King James Bible which was used to justify colonialism, hunting Women and homosexuals

    • @elainegoad9777
      @elainegoad9777 5 месяцев назад +2

      Yes. Also,there are at least 5000 translation errors in KJV Bible per Dr. Bart Erhman, chairman Theology Dept. UNC Chapel Hill

    • @AuntyKsTarot
      @AuntyKsTarot 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@elainegoad9777 It all were errors some were on purpose - they held councils on it. Not that any of it was anything other than a story for Rome to co trial the masses

    • @Dan-xx5jq
      @Dan-xx5jq 5 месяцев назад +1

      Never thought about that! I think it is time to expose him for the hypocrite that he was!! You know what they say, "If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck.....it must be a duck"!!
      I believe he was bi when he was young but was gay after age 30. That is very common for lots of men that come out later in life. They always felt deep down they were gay but tried to convince themselves otherwise, forcing themselves not to believe it, or thinking they can conquer it...they get married young, have lots of kids....and eventually come out to their families saying they can no longer live that lie. Others stay in the closet and finds clandestine ways to fulfill those urges. In the old days they didn't have access to porn or gay porn. A lot of young people are coming out now as they seen gay porn on their phones and instantly recognize it, as what their desires are. Lots of societies like in India allowed for the 'third gender' until the British arrived and criminalized it. And it makes sense now when you consider that Hinduism does have both male and female Gods.

  • @tundrawomansays694
    @tundrawomansays694 5 месяцев назад +6

    Thanks so much. Your channel was a “stumbled on” for me and I’m really enjoying it. Much appreciated :-)

  • @markgrant73110
    @markgrant73110 5 месяцев назад +13

    I think we'd call King James sexually fluid. The need for heirs was what drove him to Mary. But 5 heirs? That seems to indicate he liked it.

    • @Saer-s9u
      @Saer-s9u 4 месяца назад

      we're they all his or his on paper? grinz 😊 that is why in British law children are referred to as 'children of the marriage'. Meaning, husband's quietly accepted a child may not be his biologically but the quiet agreement he would raise and pass name/title. DNA is where blood proof lies yet, even with that, if it is kept secret, the child of the marriage law applies to this day. Carried over into north American law to this day.

    • @nuthinmuffins5073
      @nuthinmuffins5073 4 месяца назад

      Marry is a verb, while Mary is the name of James’ mother (and a whole heck of a lot of other women throughout history).

  • @reuterromain1054
    @reuterromain1054 3 месяца назад +8

    His Majesty was obviously bisexual, not gay.

  • @pamelahomeyer748
    @pamelahomeyer748 5 месяцев назад +17

    He was not gay he was bi and very happily married to his wife for many years

    • @PsulOrtiz
      @PsulOrtiz 5 месяцев назад +3

      Because----- he had other outlets for his passions, perhaps????

    • @andrewtolmie4219
      @andrewtolmie4219 19 дней назад

      @@pamelahomeyer748 married
      Married for many years, yes...but not 'happily'. He and Anne lived apart for the last decade and more of her life

  • @jhonwask
    @jhonwask 4 месяца назад +4

    This is very interesting. How historically correct is it? It could become a fascinating soap-opera on television.

  • @MunchForWellness
    @MunchForWellness 5 месяцев назад +7

    You did a good job on this. Excellent research. You must have a full production machine. I used to make videos for youtube and I know it takes a lot of work and dedication. Keep going. I like your channel.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 месяцев назад +2

      It really does take a lot of work. I don't have a team (I do it all from research to the final product). It's just me and it took me 3 weeks with only 2 days off to make this video. Research on royals is tough what with everyone having the same name and the intermingling of royals marrying royals. But, I am a research nut and I like the creative part of making the visuals so thanks for your feedback. It is most helpful!

  • @dontatme42
    @dontatme42 Месяц назад +5

    It’s scary when she spoke about the king’s lack of accountability and bad financial decisions I knew he was a Gemini. And surely enough I google and his birthday is June 19 😂😂😂😂

  • @brober
    @brober 5 месяцев назад +10

    Fishing buddies.

  • @frommargiewithlove8487
    @frommargiewithlove8487 4 месяца назад +13

    7 children could have been fathered by other men on his behalf

    • @iluop3623
      @iluop3623 4 месяца назад +2

      Or he could have used a turkey baster

    • @kathleenkayk
      @kathleenkayk 4 месяца назад +1

      Public record he was the father. Anne lamented that was the only times he paid attention to her and she felt neglected and jealous of his male "companions".

  • @ErinH-430
    @ErinH-430 5 месяцев назад +9

    I think King James was bisexual according to what we would “label” it today.

  • @PsulOrtiz
    @PsulOrtiz 5 месяцев назад +5

    It's the old, 'I'm not gay but, come on, £20 IS £20!
    (Translation: I'm not gay but $20 is $20!!!)
    A line as old as the hills. But it is as relevant now as it was then!
    😂

    • @6140LIBRA
      @6140LIBRA 5 месяцев назад +1

      😆😆😆

  • @mytrp7616
    @mytrp7616 5 месяцев назад +4

    Wowww what is the point of commenting when u are empty, ignorant & hateful? Thank you OP for this wonderful documentary! It was well researched & well informed. Of the droves of ignorant homophobic zealots here, there are still open minded educated people who appreciate some good history. To me it made me think Wow not only women slept their way to the top! In the end we are all equal hehe. Bless ya!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 месяцев назад +1

      @mytrp7616 Thank you for the positive feedback and commentary on the comments. This topic is a hot one for sure!

  • @NecessariusBalance
    @NecessariusBalance 5 месяцев назад +5

    2:17 Sounds like a jealousy. Didn't want his male lovers to have a wandering eye.

  • @cleanpaws4805
    @cleanpaws4805 3 месяца назад +4

    James, the first was not 70 when he died. He was 58.

  • @DarenGilmour
    @DarenGilmour 5 месяцев назад +7

    53:28 King James 1st was 58yrs old when he died not 70

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 месяцев назад +3

      You know it is such a funny thing (to me) that I had an intuition that 70 years old was not right but when I make the videos, I get into production mode and have to keep going with finding the right pictures and stock video and recording the voice over for the script(and in this case, having to research so many different historical figures) that I don't always take the time to listen to my intuition. Of course, it catches up with me as this did. Thank you for the correction.

  • @MiaMonique
    @MiaMonique 5 месяцев назад +7

    Sound like P. Diddy and Usher, Beiber and the rest.

  • @paulclayton745
    @paulclayton745 2 месяца назад +3

    Really excellent presentation.

  • @crystalmarvin3665
    @crystalmarvin3665 5 месяцев назад +2

    What I find interesting is he followed in his father’s footsteps even though he never had any influence from his father

    • @PsulOrtiz
      @PsulOrtiz 5 месяцев назад

      It was genetic!

  • @historychannelpodcasts
    @historychannelpodcasts 5 месяцев назад +8

    Superb video. I have already watched the entire series and I have to say that it was so fast paced and literally jumped all over the pace that I couldn't keep track of what was happening. Your video helped me make sense of all of it. Makes me want to go back and watch it again now that I have the history behind what was happening. I absolutely love the show. I couldn't get enough of the s*e*x scenes ( and I'm not even gay or a guy), Nicholas Galitzine is soooo beautiful. I couldn't keep my off him and it didn't even matter who he was bonking! THanks so much for your well researched and nicely done video!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 месяцев назад +2

      Thank you for the feedback. I'm glad it helped you sort out the show. That's why I do this channel!

    • @mavisemberson8737
      @mavisemberson8737 5 месяцев назад

      Be careful! Don't get sucked into this way of life .

    • @watthaile2053
      @watthaile2053 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@mavisemberson8737oh Lawd, don't turn into no Pre Vert. 😂

  • @lilchi721
    @lilchi721 Месяц назад +4

    Probably gay but he still managed to do his royal duties in producing an heir and a spare among other children that he could pawn off to other royal houses.

    • @garthpetzer6487
      @garthpetzer6487 Месяц назад +1

      Probably Gay? " In Elizabeth we had a King, in James we have a Queen" was common parlance. He was known Queen Jimmy.

  • @krono5el
    @krono5el 5 месяцев назад +8

    Damn it seems every king of europe had a boy lover, so incredibly obvious too.

    • @javieroliveras344
      @javieroliveras344 5 месяцев назад +3

      Who didn't?

    • @PsulOrtiz
      @PsulOrtiz 5 месяцев назад +3

      So????
      And amazingly, civilization made it through!!! Well, Hurray!!!!
      Seems the kings were on to something, as in enjoying ALL that life has to offer, no matter from whence it came!
      Life is a smorgasbord-buffet with 99% of the folks starving to death because they don't want to try something new to them. 'It looks yucky!'
      Whatever!
      When I climb into my coffin I'm going to have a few bumps, bruises and scars! Might even be missing a few bits and pieces. Who cares!!!?? I want to see as much as I can, and to live life as fully as I can. Not sit in the same job, no matter how exciting or boring, or in the same pile of bricks and lumber for 60 years, looking out the window at ????.
      Not for me!
      I might be 'over the hill'. That's fine! Because 'I'm picking up speed' as i go!!!
      Go live your life, and grab with both hands!!! (Just not like trump does! Or Weinstein, either!!! UGH!!!!! Just UGH!!!)

    • @Dan-xx5jq
      @Dan-xx5jq 5 месяцев назад

      ​@@PsulOrtizhow dare you say that about our Orange Jesus who is selling King James' Bibles! 😅 Orange Jesus was busy with a porn star and a playboy bunny while his wife was home nursing his son. And now he screams about being kept from attending this same son's graduation!!! We love our Orange Jesus because we are just like him!

  • @madam472
    @madam472 5 месяцев назад +5

    Funny how ppl think he wrote the Bible & his lifestyle was not in line

  • @christopherwinstanley1348
    @christopherwinstanley1348 4 месяца назад +3

    I think in that day it wasn’t seen to be homosexaual/gays, but shinning a light from our day then the definition would be the same. There has always been a difference between the royal divide... However, he wasn't known for educating about social stigma.

  • @simplygem8449
    @simplygem8449 4 месяца назад +5

    A bunch of weirdos And there were also children, I bet. These behaviors spilled into other countries ..

  • @davidbrathwaite5779
    @davidbrathwaite5779 4 месяца назад +4

    By the way, this is the same King James of Bible commissioning fame. He also banned the words tyrant and tyranny from the translation of the Bible because he knew he was a tyrant.

    • @BavonWW
      @BavonWW 4 месяца назад +1

      @davidbraithewaite5779
      That sounds apocryphal to me. Sources please.

  • @BavonWW
    @BavonWW 4 месяца назад +7

    I trust you are being sarcastic?
    If not please remember that this was a good few thousand years after Egypt's heyday. There is an ocean of pictures and writings to confirm that he was a
    not very attractive Scotsman.

    • @Saer-s9u
      @Saer-s9u 4 месяца назад

      Queen Scota 😉

  • @sabrinanascimento5248
    @sabrinanascimento5248 4 месяца назад +4

    Did anyone remember King Ludwig from Bavaria ?😂

  • @johnandmarylouwilde7882
    @johnandmarylouwilde7882 5 месяцев назад +5

    The Tricolor flying in Bourbon France? Come on.

  • @deanvrabl
    @deanvrabl 3 месяца назад +5

    Ive hears that James was actually gay, didnt bathe often, smelled, was lazy and not very much of a king

    • @phoenixLeoRising333
      @phoenixLeoRising333 26 дней назад

      All I could think about was the stench from the lack of bathing eww! Lol

  • @martinisherwood2854
    @martinisherwood2854 2 месяца назад +5

    The King or Queen can still do no wrong, his father was gay.

  • @judithglasser3072
    @judithglasser3072 2 месяца назад +5

    Excellent presentation, really enjoyed the podcast. There is no doubt that King James was a homosexual, while attending to his his duties to provide heirs to continue the line of succession.

  • @theravagedgrapefruit8190
    @theravagedgrapefruit8190 14 дней назад +2

    My ancestor Sir Thomas Hinton was Knighted by James I for his services in 1619 of procuring a loan of 30000L . He was also a good friend of George Villiars and helped him author bill for a loan for 800000L to carry on the govt in 1627.

  • @TheRonnierate
    @TheRonnierate 5 месяцев назад +5

    Very insightful

  • @amandab.recondwith8006
    @amandab.recondwith8006 5 месяцев назад +4

    When kings held ultimate power over other people, homosexuality and heterosexuality were simply not recognized as such. Sex did not garner the knowledge or importance we shackle ourselves with today. When you are a being chosen by God, everything you do is proper and excusable. In the 16th and 17th centuries men dressed and strutted like peacocks, and sexual intercourse was endemic. We modern people have dissected and labeled everything from the atom to the galaxies. Unfortunately, we have also categorized sexual identities that didn't factor in that time period. And as far as the lowly peasant was concerned? It is no accident that bestiality was a common accusation in rural courts. Nothing was judged as evil by the lowest class since they were undocumented nobodies and did what they wanted as long as it offered an hour of physical relief from their short dreary lives.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 месяцев назад

      Thank you for that enlightened commentary and thanks for joining the conversation!

  • @HelenePapageorge
    @HelenePapageorge 5 месяцев назад +6

    I'm not certain if a Monarch, who since Henry the Vlll, was head of the Church of England, would be subject to the same rules or lables as a commoner or Peasant class. Monarch's then were typically "above the rules" since they made them. Still I can understand why the King would take on male courtiers. IT was certainly an expedient way of avoiding illegitimate children and preserve the rights and privileges of the Monarch's true heirs and didn't disrupt the line of succession. Since those marriages were typically arranged; I think, who cares really what their orientation really is anyway. It was kind of part of the whole scene. Cheers from NYC!!

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 месяцев назад

      In a way, I agree with "what their orientation really is" but since it is still today, not normalized...well, then we will continue talk about it for sure. Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @rdh53
      @rdh53 5 месяцев назад

      There were numerous courts with varying rules of procedure, jurisdiction, standards of evidence and exemptions to members of various classes. Often, the jurisdiction of the varying courts overlapped. The church had ecclesiastical courts which often claimed parallel jurisdiction in certain criminal offenses.
      All of this is to say that some people are more equal than others. In general, peasants were cannon fodder and had the status of cattle. Criminal laws applied to the common rabble. Titled nobility and personages of rank and wealth ranked above sheriffs and thus were, for practical purposes, exempt from being charged or arrested as their conduct was unlikely to be detected or reported. Being appointed by the monarch, sheriffs understood the risks of ruffling feathers.

  • @lukitasmol10
    @lukitasmol10 12 дней назад +1

    Why would George poison him, if HE was what was holding George into power? He actually woulld have more power with James than Charles

  • @janaiello722
    @janaiello722 4 месяца назад +10

    Totally gay… he could have any aged man for companionship. He chose pretty fancy pants boys.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  4 месяца назад

      Thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @liivikasaarman995
      @liivikasaarman995 4 месяца назад +3

      Loved men but as a husband he fathered 8 children. Maybe bisexual or adored his favourites without actual sex.

    • @Trouble_Bubble36
      @Trouble_Bubble36 Месяц назад

      @@liivikasaarman995 We’re you there?

  • @GARdotETH
    @GARdotETH 19 дней назад +2

    What I got from this video, is that there was a lot of bumming going on back in the day.....I think I'd have fit right in 👀

  • @johnlynch-kv8mz
    @johnlynch-kv8mz 5 месяцев назад +1

    2:30. Nah. He was just so deeply in that closet , that the doorknob was no where near him... to know there was a door knob to open to come out in. Or He just didn’t care.

  • @davepicariello2311
    @davepicariello2311 Месяц назад +2

    If truth be told, these shocking rumors are too, too close to the truth,

  • @johnlynch-kv8mz
    @johnlynch-kv8mz 5 месяцев назад +3

    59:24 they were merely playacting at being homosexuals. What? What?!?

  • @julietteangeli
    @julietteangeli 4 месяца назад

    A series about Frances Coke would also be really interesting.

  • @4leafclover611
    @4leafclover611 4 месяца назад +1

    When a person can't speak for themselves I believe very little what I hear about them good or bad

    • @heatherrenee8810
      @heatherrenee8810 4 месяца назад +1

      He literally left receipts.

    • @nuthinmuffins5073
      @nuthinmuffins5073 4 месяца назад

      Does that include Hitler? Just wondering. How about Stalin? Ronald Reagan? Jesus? Any of your deceased family members? How on Earth does one go about conducting criminal trials based on your way of thinking? Just wondering. Nobody said you have to believe everything you’re told, but if there’s evidence to support it, and you dismiss it anyway, aren’t you then the one with faulty reasoning?

    • @4leafclover611
      @4leafclover611 4 месяца назад

      @@nuthinmuffins5073 Hilter left an open book

  • @darrellwheeler2625
    @darrellwheeler2625 5 месяцев назад +3

    His father Lord Dundley was also bisexual.

    • @StealURFace
      @StealURFace 5 месяцев назад +1

      Lord Darnley?

    • @darrellwheeler2625
      @darrellwheeler2625 5 месяцев назад +1

      @BoojeeRedneck yes I did a little research about him a longtime ago. Yes he had sexual relations with both men and women before he had met Queen Mary and after he had married her. He stayed drunk all the time and was very wild and promiscuous it didn't matter to him He was also a very mean and cruel selfish entitled person who only cares about himself only . That was Mary biggest downfall she should had got to know first and not rush into a marriage with him. Had she done that she would had got to know the real him first She didn't know this man long enough to find out if he compatable and make a good husband for her. And turned down his marriage proposal and send him back home to England He was a very deranged controlling jealous dangerous psychopath it a damn shame he wasn't charged up and arrested for brutally slaughtering Queen Mary's male friend who wasn't no threat to Lord Darnley nothing but a friend to Queen Mary I also heard her male friend I don't know if it was really true or not that he was a gay man .

    • @BavonWW
      @BavonWW 4 месяца назад +1

      Ah, the Lord Dundley who was fond of dundling comely courtiers or Darnley who was the champion of Sewing tournaments?
      (Sorry, couldn't resist it.)

    • @zoeycharlottetaylor1438
      @zoeycharlottetaylor1438 13 часов назад

      Yep, you know your history. Gave Mary Queen of Scots a hardtime chasing after men's behinds

  • @pv-mm2or
    @pv-mm2or 2 месяца назад +2

    Why do any reference to homosexuality come with the assumption that sodomy is an essential act of male to male sex, or male love in general It is not so, the assumption is always included in writings and the opinionated, ignorant and often biased view, by those who have no definite knowledge of the subject.

  • @WarrioroftheAges
    @WarrioroftheAges 5 месяцев назад +6

    I love a good historical drama as much as anyone. Never thought of myself as a prude as I’m not.
    Found myself fast forwarding through at the least 3-4 extremely explicit same sex both sex scenes in each episode. Having missed 3/4 of each episode thus far haven’t a clue what else happened at this point. Endless to say
    the art of suggestion would’ve went a really long way, if they had bothered to use it.

    • @CollectiveWesterner
      @CollectiveWesterner 5 месяцев назад +4

      Personal maturity and an average level of sophistication are all that is required. It is nothing to 'clutch the pearls' about.

  • @PlacidSolar
    @PlacidSolar 22 дня назад +4

    He was the author of the Book of Demonology

  • @deanvrabl
    @deanvrabl 3 месяца назад +5

    It is alleged, first of all, that he lacked table manners and had a tongue too large for his mouth. On the latter score, there is absolutely no evidence beyond this single text: the idea that James was a dribbling fool is pure satire.

  • @evanpeay
    @evanpeay 5 месяцев назад +3

    and QUEEN ANNE tolerated it

  • @ankhpom9296
    @ankhpom9296 5 месяцев назад

    Can there be a video of the descendants?

  • @divox9pqr
    @divox9pqr 5 месяцев назад +5

    There can be no doubt, James was bisexual

  • @Dr.Bernardo.C
    @Dr.Bernardo.C 4 месяца назад +4

    Just as any other person who has been on this Earth, feelings of tenderness, caring and love haven't got a sex and since Greece, Romans , or much before. One is closest to compression of his own kind !!!

  • @carolyncouch4094
    @carolyncouch4094 5 месяцев назад +5

    The King James that wrote the Protestant Bible?

    • @cathygould
      @cathygould 5 месяцев назад +4

      Didn't write it, commissioned it and approved it.

    • @ktermalkut8332
      @ktermalkut8332 5 месяцев назад +1

      he sponsored it. In any event the WRITTEN text of any publication is not The WORD of GOD. It is what The LORD GOD speaks to a person when they read the text that is HIS WORD. This was said by The LORD Jesus confirming a TRUTH established in the Jewish Torah - Matthew 4:4, Deut. 8:3
      This is why The LORD JESUS never confirmed or established any religion but directed us to live by The SPIRIT in a Personal Relationship with The LORD GOD Who is Spirit knowing HIM as Our ONLY Teacher and Father - John 4:24, John 17, Matthew 23:8-10, Jeremiah 31:33-34, Hebrews 8:18, 10:16.
      This why we are called to be FILLED with The HOLY SPIRIT and to be called TEMPLES of The HOLY SPIRIT as Joint Heirs with The LORD JESUS and being as HE is now on this earth - 1John 4:17, Romans 8:7. The LORD told us that when HE was on the earth, HE was The LIGHT of The world (darkness ruled by satan who comes to kill, steal destroy - John 10:10). When HE left we were to be The LIGHTS in The world - John 9:5, 8:12, Matthew 5:14, Philippians 2:15.

    • @Figgatella
      @Figgatella 5 месяцев назад +3

      Well the only true Christian religion is Catholicism, look that up, if you want to get technical. The Catholic Bible was the first Bible. Just because King James had it retranslated doesn’t mean it’s right.

    • @StealURFace
      @StealURFace 5 месяцев назад +1

      @@Figgatellathe gnostic texts predate the Catholic Bible

    • @ktermalkut8332
      @ktermalkut8332 5 месяцев назад

      @@Figgatella You are VERY DECEIVED and unless you check your heart as to WHO you want to Obey, your situation will not be IN THE GREAT INHERITANCE that The LORD JESUS has for HIS people.
      I was brought up strict roman catholic in a country where witchcraft and spiritism mixed freely with roman catholicism because the spirit behind both was satan. satan in The WORDS of The LORD JESUS comes to KILL STEAL DESTROY - John 10:10. he is in your life and space and you are DECEIVED into believing that is normal!
      suffering, sickness disease and pain is NOT THE PORTION of those who are in The LORD JESUS CHRIST because HE DESTROYED the destroyer! - Colossians 2:15. FEAR is satanic and many people including many "good" catholics are bound by fear and go to their graves in that fear.
      Study the history of roman catholicism and the worship of the sun god where emperor constantine OPENLY PUBLICLY declared that the new "sabbath" would be on "sun" day in honor of the sun god!
      After I REPENTED and was BORN AGAIN of The SPIRIT of The LORD JESUS CHRIST and water immersed (baptized) in HIS Name, I had in obedience to HIS WILL a PERSONAL Relationship with The LORD GOD The LORD JESUS as My Only Teacher and Father - Matthew 23:8-10, HE told me NOT TO TOUCH ANYTHING roman catholic.
      The WHOLE of christianity is under the spirit of pagan roman catholicism to the extent that they celebrate the pagan feasts, hold services on sunday (WITHOUT ASKING THE LORD JESUS if that is in HIS WILL), have a pyramid structure of leadership etc.
      I DO NOT identify as a christian or with any religion. The LORD JESUS did not form or endorse any religion. religious spirits are the MOST DANGEROUS - they murdered The LORD JESUS.

  • @CarniFitMe
    @CarniFitMe 2 месяца назад +1

    The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

  • @miriammerritt3438
    @miriammerritt3438 3 месяца назад +2

    Who on earth is Catherine of clever..no such person. Get your facts straight. Henry 8th was married to Catherine of Aragon. whilst having an affair with Anne boleyn, whom he subsequently hence the reformation etc
    Anne of clever was his 4th wife,but that is another story......

  • @milonthemovekamilkamilion2911
    @milonthemovekamilkamilion2911 5 месяцев назад +1

    Never heard this story

  • @sstarklite2181
    @sstarklite2181 5 месяцев назад +1

    So the only way to get rich was and still is by good luck. What horrible lives all people have always had, rich and poor.

  • @ianmckee_84
    @ianmckee_84 Месяц назад +3

    An absolute disgrace 🤦‍♂️

  • @MikeHunt-c5p
    @MikeHunt-c5p 5 месяцев назад +7

    It sounds like he became James and Jane simultaneously

  • @andrealittle2836
    @andrealittle2836 5 месяцев назад +17

    Not everybody in history was gay, which modern historians seem bent on painting all figures with the same brush.

    • @fabulouswomeninhistory
      @fabulouswomeninhistory  5 месяцев назад +8

      I don't think "all' are said to be gay.In the case of King James, even his contemporaries questioned his intimate nature with his courtiers but, hey, thanks for joining the conversation!

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 5 месяцев назад +2

      There was a practice in the early days of the American frontier of multiple people sharing a bed. It was strictly out of need as real beds were in short supply. Plus in cold weather you needed the extra heat. President Lincoln spent much of his formative years having to share a bed with other guys out in the boondocks.

    • @MadamHoneyB
      @MadamHoneyB 5 месяцев назад +4

      I don’t think he was cold…lol
      If he was gay, well then he was gay!
      But he was clearly bisexual. He took care of his obligation to conceive heirs and spent the rest of his time with men…so what?!?!?
      I wish for the day when people realize that a persons sexual orientation does NOT DEFINE who they are or their character as a person.
      Straight people don’t spread their bedroom acts publicly and no one judges them.
      Yet people continue to judge LGBTQ (hope I got that right) people by their private business. It’s sooo stupid!
      People need to start looking inward and upward instead of zeroing in on other people’s business…
      That is all. I think I got my point across! 😊

    • @moustik31
      @moustik31 5 месяцев назад +1

      That's a lie.

    • @andrealittle2836
      @andrealittle2836 5 месяцев назад +1

      Sexuality does define your character, in part.

  • @hwizell7478
    @hwizell7478 5 месяцев назад +1

    Adopted sovereign
    Publisher monarchy’s text
    Crowned restoration
    #haiku #monarchy #kingjames

  • @DonBailey-od1de
    @DonBailey-od1de 5 месяцев назад +7

    Feminism is heavy with this one ,

    • @cask1
      @cask1 5 месяцев назад

      The stupid is heavy in this one

    • @DonBailey-od1de
      @DonBailey-od1de 5 месяцев назад

      @@cask1
      Yes the stupidity and feminism are unmistakable.

    • @DonBailey-od1de
      @DonBailey-od1de 5 месяцев назад

      @@cask1
      The stupidity and feminism are unmistakable.

    • @DonBailey-od1de
      @DonBailey-od1de 5 месяцев назад

      @@cask1
      The stupidity and feminism are unmistakable.

  • @IamRollergirl
    @IamRollergirl 3 месяца назад +5

    Yes, of course King James I was gay.

  • @demetricdroughn3095
    @demetricdroughn3095 5 месяцев назад +5

    Fruit cake, zesty

  • @AkhtarulHaque-c3i
    @AkhtarulHaque-c3i Месяц назад +1

    wright

  • @keithgray4891
    @keithgray4891 5 месяцев назад +4

    I watched the series recently and it appalled me. To much you know what going off … absolutely not good..l

  • @charlesrichardkwakuabiekua2117
    @charlesrichardkwakuabiekua2117 4 месяца назад +2

    Poor Bi-Gay James

  • @Dishfire101
    @Dishfire101 Месяц назад +3

    The English never got over Scotland taking the English Crown in 1603 then again the Tudors were a Welsh family mixed with the Normans.

    • @Hrossey
      @Hrossey Месяц назад +3

      And the Saxons are north German.
      Your point?

    • @PostcardsHome0723
      @PostcardsHome0723 Месяц назад +1

      hahaha. who told you that? English care much less about Scottish than Scottish care about the English.

  • @maryettamoody5079
    @maryettamoody5079 4 месяца назад +1

    Glad we don’t have kings and Wuern any more Some of the nuts we got are not as bad as they were then divk

  • @betsyjames1520
    @betsyjames1520 4 месяца назад +4

    Gay as a blade !!!

  • @keewindeugenemenra
    @keewindeugenemenra 5 месяцев назад +1

    oh yeah

  • @sabrinanascimento5248
    @sabrinanascimento5248 4 месяца назад +2

    I called them Butt buddies 😂.

  • @jamesring5383
    @jamesring5383 2 месяца назад +1

    I was James the first in my past life ask me a question.

  • @dubspace1999
    @dubspace1999 3 месяца назад

    The question is did he give the boaby or receive the boaby up the council gritter.

  • @MikeHunt-c5p
    @MikeHunt-c5p 5 месяцев назад +4

    Perhaps he could be exhumed and his spinchter examined for confirmation

  • @wakeupJacobs1
    @wakeupJacobs1 Месяц назад +1

    Are there any sources to these lesbian love stories? Or is this a blah blah fest

    • @julienossola
      @julienossola Месяц назад +2

      No ficcional shows about reality are 100% what really happened. That's why documentaries do exist.

    • @Dishfire101
      @Dishfire101 Месяц назад +2

      Vatican was the root of these stories

  • @jesscatangay9384
    @jesscatangay9384 Месяц назад +2

    He commissioned the King James Version of the Bible.

  • @jacksimpson-rogers1069
    @jacksimpson-rogers1069 5 месяцев назад +4

    We know about sodomy, but what did the people of Gomorrha do?

    • @scooterbob1408
      @scooterbob1408 5 месяцев назад

      Hog humpers 😅

    • @PsulOrtiz
      @PsulOrtiz 5 месяцев назад

      Those folks just took it and didn't complain! Unlike folks of today!
      Trump, mtg, bobert, et al!!!

  • @caewalker9276
    @caewalker9276 4 месяца назад +7

    There you go. Pedos haven't changed in all these years. There's a reason it was outlawed. It's all about control 😢

  • @trulyrich707
    @trulyrich707 5 месяцев назад +14

    King James VI of Scotland/ I of England & Ireland was a black man with a black dad and biracial mom. His lineage could be traced back to Ancient Israel to the sons of Jacob or Twelve Tribes of Israel, thus his mission to authorize the best scholars of Ancient Hebrew (not Yiddish) to transliterate the Old Testament into Middle English and the transliterate the New Testament into Middle English from Koine Greek. He being a Jacobite was a threat to the imposter line which eventually killed him and his offsprings. The claims about his sexuality are accusations, based on rumors to attack his character and delegitimize him. If he were so "gay" then why didn't he order his scholars and scribes to remove all passages condemning homosexuality or being "gay" from the Bible❓🧐 🤔💭

    • @julianpetkov8320
      @julianpetkov8320 5 месяцев назад +1

      He wuz kangz n' sheit, ...right?! 😅

    • @julianpetkov8320
      @julianpetkov8320 5 месяцев назад

      BTW, "ancient Israel" was a slave called Jacob who "wrestled" all night in a tent with his Greek owner (aka "the Lord"). "hebrew" is an artificial Esperanto invented by the Greek oligarchy using a vocabulary of words from all of their trade colonies.

    • @trulyrich707
      @trulyrich707 5 месяцев назад +4

      @@julianpetkov8320
      Uh oh, look 👀 who stumbled out of the trailer park, showing off low class mindset and racist ignorance 🤡.

    • @sfchrisrom
      @sfchrisrom 5 месяцев назад +1

      🤡

    • @jeffreyreynolds4732
      @jeffreyreynolds4732 5 месяцев назад +1

      King James is the One that ADDED Homosexuality to the Bible. It was Never in the Bible before his Translation.

  • @intellectualbadstudentnoir3885
    @intellectualbadstudentnoir3885 4 месяца назад +1

    Look at sll these billionaires

  • @christopherrobertson7723
    @christopherrobertson7723 4 месяца назад +3

    Human Sexuality is a Spectrum, not just black, white and gray. It is also every color of the Rainbow in permutations of stripes and stars and plaid, polka-dot, and paisley. Straight and Gay hardly span the range of human sexual expression. Certainly there are social and moral boundaries that apply to all areas of life, but, oversimplifying what we perceive as real and true, and projecting and imposing such values onto each other creates neurotic societies. The King was real and true to himself and rich enough to not have to care about what others thought about his sexual desires and how he chose to address them. Men and Women need to mind their own business and contain their autonomy to themselves.

    • @jaded9087
      @jaded9087 3 месяца назад +1

      Yeah, happy pride month😂😂
      You do realize that in those times even the queens bed sheets where public information, to see if her period is on track .
      There was no privacy un courtly life especially for royalty themselves.
      They did not even wipe their own asses and the ass wiper was one of the most influential positions anyone could hope to accomplish... all his favorites end up in that position to get titles.
      To get so many titles so quick even in this day and age, questions would be asked " whos dick did you have to suck to climb so far so fast... in this case a kings

  • @doinadumitru2417
    @doinadumitru2417 4 месяца назад

  • @MaryPinkHair
    @MaryPinkHair 5 месяцев назад

    Well, how very awfully charming! TMI?????????

  • @ankhpom9296
    @ankhpom9296 5 месяцев назад +8

    What is the view of Bible thumpers that James was not hetero?

    • @Jumpoable
      @Jumpoable 5 месяцев назад +8

      I know! LOL they mostly read HIS version of the Bible!

    • @jacksimpson-rogers1069
      @jacksimpson-rogers1069 5 месяцев назад

      As a Presbyterian Atheist, I hold that the best thing that James did, was what we call the KJV Bible. It cut into the power of the clergy to pick and choose doctrine, and to the extent that Jesus is reported as saying stuff that is an advance upon what the "scribes and the pharisees" believed, it is moral,
      To the extent that it is nonsense, that too is revealed.

    • @liamwinchesterchasten2229
      @liamwinchesterchasten2229 5 месяцев назад

      They're 💩 their pants 😏

    • @SomeoneHasToSayIt2525
      @SomeoneHasToSayIt2525 5 месяцев назад +2

      I just love anti-Christian bigots…they’re soooooo obvious. If James was a Sodomite he was no different from any other sinner. He had the free will to address his sin as the “thumped” Holy Bible prescribed. Confess, repent and be restored to righteousness but then I wouldn’t expect an apostate to understand. “And if any man hear my words, and believe not, I judge him not: for I came not to judge the world, but to save the world.”-John 12:47 KJV

    • @sfchrisrom
      @sfchrisrom 5 месяцев назад

      🤡

  • @croys8608
    @croys8608 5 месяцев назад

    Oh, mind, another fake picture.