I agree with ellebassa above. All men who have disasterous relationships with their mothers, subconsciencously take it out on the females in their lives, teachers, friends, wives, and even their daughters. If and when a man truely forgives his mother, is when he can see each female for who they truely are. The gift of forgiveness is the best gift to yourself.
This is why what Capote did to Anne Woodward imo is tantamount to murder. Capote is a classic sociopath who knew precisely how and what to do to get into his “swans” heads. Remember men and especially women were MUCH simpler then. It was much easier for a wormy self absorbed narcissist with a deep seated hatred towards his mother to lurk these women and learn what triggers them. Capote, in spite of or because of his diminutive nature caused these women to completely let down their guard, a massive mistake with a Sociopath/Psychopath like Capote. Capote targeted Anne Woodward!
I suspect that Babe Paley thought attaining “perfection” would result in happiness. She never realized that happiness doesn’t come from others; it comes from within.
It's pretty hard to do that when you're a woman in 1950. Women couldn't even open their own bank account until the 1970s. They were completely dependent on men for money.
@@WobblesandBean. Amen. I believe Babe was a smart woman trapped in a system that convinced her she wasn’t worth anything if she wasn’t beautiful and submissive
Great deep dive into the psyche and history of Truman and his swans! Can't believe there was another chapter - Yachts and things! Thanks for the link and for all your hard work!
Truman Capote was a vicious little toad! Talented, but totally self absorbed and self centered. He infiltrated and exposed the deepest feelings and thoughts of his “friends”. With a “friend” like Capote who needs enemies?
@@AnneAndersonFoxiepaws Could be worse. Capote was ditched and vilified. You hold your head up high. We'd have missed out on a lot of great stuff if it weren't for the rebels that came before us and thankfully, exist among us. If you're fortunate enough to have the tits it takes to speak up and own it, luxuriate in your rarity, gurrrl!
@ellebassa9288.......no excuse , he's not the only one , who's came up under those circumstances . seems his biggest cross to bear ,was his appearance🤨🤨🤨🤨.................
@mizfrenchtwist I'm not using that as an excuse i'm just saying that as an observation, In no way am I excusing his behavior i'm just saying this is probably why he did what he did.
He was a social zero, the swans took him in. He was desperate to become a member of their vaunted circles, and they accepted him. After his savage, thinly veiled written assault on them, they turned on him en.mssse, and it shattered him. Regardless of the viciousness and cruelty of his attack, I'm always stunned at how shocked he was when they shut him out. What an absolute idiot he was.
His mother aspired to social heights but lost everything and killed herself in the end. The swans were as close as he got to mothering . He gained status on his own as a writer. But his connection to the swan circle protected him from the worst of homosexual abuses I think.
Anyone who attended Jackie Kennedy's sister in stores in NYC, knew how absolutely full of herself she was, and how miserable was and how mistreated other people.
Very comprehensive information here. I tend to watch long videos more and more and am really sick of all the trash ai videos on youtube. Your video clearly involved a lot of work and attention. I would rather support your channel and all the lazy history channels that just repeat articles on the internet. Videos like this one are good at pulling information together for a better understanding of the topic, in this case, who Truman Capote was. I really did not know about his machinations in high society and only thought of him as someone who wrote In Cold Blood. Anyway, good job and I hope you do more long videos.
When Keith Richard found out Lee Radziwell and Truman Capote were following them in their 1972 tour he was less than impressed. He saw them as interlopers. He banged on Truman Capote hotel door and left a note that said, "In Cold Ketchup" written in, what else, ketchup.
They both did. It wasn't one or the other: life is rarely so simple. Part of the problem of trying to discuss this is we haven't ever found a language that would be equal to the complexity of describing human interactions well.
Absolutely! The world was waiting with bated breath for him to write and create again. He could of done anything. He was no longer socializing in a group of people, he wasn't shun from the arts and the public by any means....in fact quite the contrary.
I was thinking the Same Thing!! I think he had Liver Disease. No wonder he was depressed! When you're on the way out, of course, your mental state suffers! I guess he felt he had nothing to lose. Things change. Life changes. People come and go. Sometimes it's a blessing.
After a messed-up loveless childhood like he had, and the fact there was no therapy of any kind it's hardly surprising he turned out like he did. His talent for writing and surrounding himself with the troubled high class, reflected his past.
I used to hang out with a kid who was desperate to mow his lawn....we were in Berkeley in the 1980s, and this young man had some fantasy that if he could become Truman's lawn mower guy that Truman may help him publish his punk rock memoir book....
@@candimcirishit was a great story! Adorable 18 yr old-ish “twink” pitching this idea! Different times. Famous folks who inspired and influenced us were far far far away and it took months to even years to find out details about them. No Instagram then! Made for a more captivating stories and pipe dreams hopes and …
I believe Lee Radziwill took the side of Gore Vidal because his mother (Nina Gore) was at one time married to Hugh Auchincloss (Lee and Jackie’s stepfather). Although they aren’t related by blood both Lee and Jackie’s mother and Gore Vidal’s mother were both married to Hugh Auchincloss. Talk about awkward. Gore, Jackie, and Lee shared the same stepfather.
Credit for IN COLD BLOOD should have had Harper Lee as the co-author. They went on location together and it was she who was trusted by the locals so that they shared their knowledge with her. He took all of her work and all of the glory.
really.....that would make interesting deep dive. Ive only read the book, never cared about the back story behind the writing of it, didnt even know Harper Lee was a part of it
He was a malignant gnome obsessed with fame and money. He had talent sure but it was only a catalyst he used ro gain what he really wanted: social recognition and validation.
I remember that! That act would have brought down any sisters relationship, and especially one that was obviously, not so privately fractured, such as Jackie, and Lee's was! I believe that Jackie knew exactly what she was doing, when she married Onassis. And how it would devastate Lee. Ah family, sometimes you can't live with them, and you can't live with them ( yes, you read that right, lol). ✌🏾💜💜
Wonderful telling of the life of Truman Capote! I've read just about everything that Truman ever wrote. Starting with Other Voices, Other Rooms (great title). I believe that he was sort of a tragic genius! A tortured, brilliant soul. He could be notoriously petty, and backbiting. But then, by turn, be your very best friend. It was said that, his once dear friend Harper Lee, who wrote To Kill A Mockingbird, fashioned the character Dill, the friend who spent summers with his aunt, and was befriended by the character Scout, was that of Truman. No matter what people thought, or think of Truman Capote, he was fascinating. His end of life was hard, and sad. But, I for one, am glad that he was once here! Thank you, for putting together such a lovely documentary! Your narration, and captivating commentary, held my interest, from beginning, to end! 🤗💜💜
I enjoyed this episode. One thing that wasn’t mentioned about Lee Radziwill and Jackie Kennedy - Lee had been dating Aristotle Onassis for YEARS and he had refused to marry her. Jackie swooped in and stole Aristotle from Lee. It’s a miracle that Lee spoke to Jackie ever again.
Most people forget Jackie married Onassis for the money. He “gave her” a million dollars to marry him and was in the process of filing for divorce when he died. He thought he could “buy” her, but the price was too high (when he realized his money was all she wanted). She Wouldn’t even stay in the same country he was in. When he was dying, Jackie had to fly from NY, but “opps” arrived too late. He’d died.
That was a lot of research and time and I just wanted you to know I truly appreciate the hard work you put in. I never met the man but I know I don't like him and never will. He used people like he used toilet paper especially the Clutter family and their friends and neighbours. Thank you once again and I look forward to another treat soon
Thank you for the feedback. I appreciate you taking your time to provide me with that inspiration for more long videos. I think you are the first person to draw the comparison of how Capote used the townspeople to get his story for In Cold Blood. Thank you for that as well.
The movie about Capote writing In Cold Blood with Toby Jones demonstrates in a very subtle way but it is there. Even Capote's childhood friend, Harper Lee sees it.
No, no, no, Gloria Vanderbilt went through a tough time when her oldest son passed away. To make matters worse her psychologist and someone else tried to take advantage of her during those dark years in her life. She barely survived that. Her husband passed away prior to her son. That all takes a toll in anyone’s soul.
He had a toxic relationship with his mother and it messed his mind up to the point of hating women, and subconsciously wanting to destroy every woman in his life. I don't feel sorry for him because instead of getting help, he manifested this unforgiveable viciousness that ultimately destroyed him.
His drinking after the death of the killer he got way to close to while garnering background knowledge for his book " In cold blood" is what killed his career. He fell into a deep depression and turned to drink to try and alleviate his thoughts and feelings about it. It's such a huge tragedy that the topic that would bring him his greatest success would also be his downfall.
That does seen to happen in Hollywood. Stephen King hated what they did when they first started adapting his books to the screen until her learned how to have more say in his adaptations. Thanks for joining the conversation!
Breakfast at Tiffany's was the mainstream beginning In Cold Blood was The Peak Answered Prayers was the beginning of the end and eventually the last nail in the coffin Truman Capote way of writing made him famous and canceled at the same time. He could've been used allegorical narratives in Answered Prayers particularly "La Cotê Basque 1965".
He was a master with words. Writers tell stories about what interests them. He didn't do anything that other writers haven't done. I loved him. I'm a writer so I know the process. Most don't. He was a fabulous writer and many were jealous. Kids that are abused or neglected have problems. Fabulous video. You did a great job.
Babe Paley was beautiful. I think Capote was a real snake. He got them to trust him, and then he betrayed them, and people really got hurt. He did it repeatedly and he wasn't just targeting the upper class, he was targetting women.
Exactly. I remember him as a truly horrible man and never did understand how anyone could trust him. He always “came off” as a snake and snakes don’t change.
I remembered watching him on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson and other talk shows as a kid growing up. I thought he was strange, of course because of his distinctive voice, but mainly because he appeared to be totally wasted, slurring his words. I didn’t know what drunk was back then as a kid,never having seen a drunk person before. He was funny though and made the audience and host laugh a lot He was really short and thought he might be related to Paul Williams, the song writer/ actor because they looked somewhat similar. Watching this about him now is fascinating. I guess he was a unhappy person that was never really found true happiness and envied other people. I remember hearing that he lived with Joanne Carson after she was divorced Johnny.
This is such a thoughtful, well researched presentation that the glaring error of eluding to Ann Woodward being one of Truman Capote's "Swans" almost ruins it. Woodward was never part of his circle and the two of them were openly hostile toward each other and that fact is well documented. the correction of this obvious flaw would make this an excellent documentary rather than just a good one.
You made a very obvious legal error in the Ann Woodward story. Grand juries indict/vote on the charging documents; they do not convict anyone of anything. It is a regular jury that decides whether a person is guilty or not guilty of the charges.
I believe that exploitation was a double edged sword in this case. Capote exploited the Swans for his needs and they exploited him for theirs. For the most part, probably equitable exploitation (if there is such a thing). However, betrayal is an entirely different matter. Capote had not written anything in years and had been give several deadlines and some generous advances by Random House to complete Answered Prayers, which he was struggling to do. Having all of that juicy gossip in his back pocket was just too tempting, in my opinion.
It is a little sad he had to hang out with those rich women, he did not need them with his talent and brains, and they did not need him as a a faux friend, a sign of those times...?
He could have hailed on his own for sure! Was he was envious. I wonder if his intention was always to stick it to them. Women used to love hanging with gay men. The perfect man? Made them feel beautiful. Then he would backstab them. Witnessed it countless times. They’d all been better off had they not met each other.
He was marginally accepted due to his fame and his gossip. In other words, the court jester. Later, after his banishment, once he got deeper into his addictions, no one wanted him around.
Wow, wondered that too! If it was actual audio footage....kept thinking it must have been his real voice in there, somewhere, lol! He was that affected
This was part of Truman’s facade. He thought he could pretend to be whatever he wanted and would be accepted. It was a true “deserved justice” when he fell “out” with everyone he’d used.
I think he had spite for these type of women from the very beginning, rather than it developing from being around them. He ingratiated himself and pretended to be a trustworthy, compassionate confidante so they’d reveal their private matters to him.
Philip Seymour Hoffman played Truman Capote in a bio film about his life. It was a role that made his career soar. Didn't 🤔 Capote was a drug abuser similar to Hoffman also
Dear Person, thank you… something I didn’t know…”Death by Alcholism” Wow! Spot on… TC was clearly aware enough to write what his thoughts and recollections were, including his regrets. So very sad, because , I imagine, TC took a self accounting and was most honest with himself… God Bless this TC who, it seems…apologized… This, I didn’t know… I’m “Nurse Jane” btw… thank you! God Bless you! Stay safe!
What a predicament to find yourself in! The Swans were probably chafing in their scarves for wanting to bring a lawsuit for slander and libel. But that would be to risk letting the public know for sure the characters were indeed, themselves. And with such an untrustworthy defendant, the danger of more damage (as in scorched earth) to be done was too real.
Bravo! Just hearing “The Stork Club” sends shivers up my spine! wow! Can you believe, I recall many of these fabulous photos you’ve included! Smile, please…think of a “Swan” on the small New England Island… Of course, she’s going to be gowned in a long Summer frock, wearing all her appropriate “Jewlery! No ‘Connor” for a Ne York Swan… Bravo! And thank you!
I find it difficult to empathize with individuals with such shallow and material driven motivations.What can be called " glamourous" could easily be regarded as greedy, wasteful, and ultimately foolish.Those who idolize such individuals now ,as then, seem simply lost and empty clout chasers to me, and nothing bears this out more than the realities of these " swans" fates and lives.
He didnt betray his swans. He just roasted and ate them. Its not betrayal if its premeditated. Those swans should have known not to eat the bread. There were signs clearly posted.
All round tragic for both author & "Swans". Regardless of how things ended,Capote was a supremely gifted writer,some of whose short stories in particular must be among the best of any 20th century American author.
How interesting and sad. I remember reading his novel ‘In Cold Blood’ serialized in the New Yorker when I was a Freshman in college. I found it fascinating. It is a shame he lost faith in himself and died in the way he did.
The compilation of facts & files must have been difficult & very time consuming to compile.Well done👏&💯% congratulations❗.It confirms my opinion he was 80% talent & 20% assho*e or 60% as*hole & 40% talent..&..or ..&..ratios could go on infinitum, in other words the combination of attitudes of the time spanning influential eras/decades & influence of his peers, his talent, his homosexuality, his general character & his unusual (for the time writing skills & pattern) will remain an uncompletedenigma (but whose writing talent & contribution to modern writing cannot be ignored just as Steinbecks, Greenes, Roths etc of the 20th century & many other American writing genres ).
Yesssss his addictions assisted in his demise and death due to you can’t keep abusing ur body! Plus the fact that his books were not doing so well. So he writes about them and he does backstabs them. Yes he played them all! He delved into their insecurities and made sure he boosted his but everything fell apart for him and he was ousted!
The reason that he wiggled his way into the lives of these women because he was very gay and loved gossip. So they told him all their frustrations especially around their husbands womanizing. He liked his link to the parties this level of society and it fed his narcissistic ego.
A deep dive into lives, high or low on a social scale, would reveal episodes of the same level of human pain, and turmoil. We all are in need of a Savior. Capote, and his cohorts only highlight this universal need, and lack..so much for idols we admire. What a pathetic substitute.
Women's main role was motherhood. They were not allowed to work if married . So, rich beautiful women like these married rich men . It's how they survived. It wasn't necessarily about love, it was about sex, having children , financial partnership and it was supposed to be a legal , long term arrangement. Many parents arranged introductions toward marriage.
We can only guess how much these swans talked about Truman behind his back. Gays were not accepted very much. He may have heard about the gossip about his homosexuality. Homophobia was always nipping at his heels. Just saying. There's 2 sides to every story.
If you would like to see long videos like this one more often, let me know! Thanks for watching!
You possess the perfect voice for narration. Wonderfully informative video, also.
I wouldn't mind long videos, especially if they are as interesting as this one.
@jaclynholland-strauss7054 Thank you for the positive and inspiring feedback!
@timnicholas1832 Glad to hear it. I am leaning towards doing more long videos and appreciate your encouraging feedback.
Definitely... You're really good
When you base your friendship on those you Hate, you will implode. My dog said that years ago..
smart dog
Your dog, is wise, beyond dog years! 🤗💜💜
Winnie Wallace..Dog are talking now!!
I agree with ellebassa above. All men who have disasterous relationships with their mothers, subconsciencously take it out on the females in their lives, teachers, friends, wives, and even their daughters. If and when a man truely forgives his mother, is when he can see each female for who they truely are. The gift of forgiveness is the best gift to yourself.
This is why what Capote did to Anne Woodward imo is tantamount to murder. Capote is a classic sociopath who knew precisely how and what to do to get into his “swans” heads.
Remember men and especially women were MUCH simpler then. It was much easier for a wormy self absorbed narcissist with a deep seated hatred towards his mother to lurk these women and learn what triggers them. Capote, in spite of or because of his diminutive nature caused these women to completely let down their guard, a massive mistake with a Sociopath/Psychopath like Capote. Capote targeted Anne Woodward!
That is sadly true. I had my own run-in with such a sociopath. He’s sitting in jail now.
Narcs can’t forgive anyone because they take no responsibility & are incapable of loving anyone because they loathe their true nature
Thats true to an extent but theres also jealousy and, I believe, thats what drove this toxic little creep more than wounds inflicted by his mother.
I don't agree with all men. There are very few absolutes.
I suspect that Babe Paley thought attaining “perfection” would result in happiness. She never realized that happiness doesn’t come from others; it comes from within.
All narcissists are perfectionists & only have black or white thinking
It's pretty hard to do that when you're a woman in 1950. Women couldn't even open their own bank account until the 1970s. They were completely dependent on men for money.
@@WobblesandBean. Amen. I believe Babe was a smart woman trapped in a system that convinced her she wasn’t worth anything if she wasn’t beautiful and submissive
Great deep dive into the psyche and history of Truman and his swans! Can't believe there was another chapter - Yachts and things! Thanks for the link and for all your hard work!
Thank you for letting me know the feedback. I am going to do more long videos!
Truman Capote was a vicious little toad! Talented, but totally self absorbed and self centered. He infiltrated and exposed the deepest feelings and thoughts of his “friends”. With a “friend” like Capote who needs enemies?
If he were not famous no one would delve into his history trying to explain away his horrid behavior
Absolutely, I would have said something similar but have already been suspended for speaking my mind, your opening made me laugh its so true!
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Could be worse. Capote was ditched and vilified. You hold your head up high. We'd have missed out on a lot of great stuff if it weren't for the rebels that came before us and thankfully, exist among us. If you're fortunate enough to have the tits it takes to speak up and own it, luxuriate in your rarity, gurrrl!
@@AnneAndersonFoxiepawsI just did a 12° stretch in YT jail. Free speech does not exist in RUclipsania..
@@AnneAndersonFoxiepaws RUclips truly is the worst.
The wounds from his mother beld into his friendship with the Swans,and he took revenge on the swans as a way of taking revenge on his mother.
@ellebassa9288.......no excuse , he's not the only one , who's came up under those circumstances . seems his biggest cross to bear ,was his appearance🤨🤨🤨🤨.................
@mizfrenchtwist I'm not using that as an excuse i'm just saying that as an observation, In no way am I excusing his behavior i'm just saying this is probably why he did what he did.
@@ellebassa9288.........i see , he was a twisted little man , nobody's friend..........
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He was a social zero, the swans took him in. He was desperate to become a member of their vaunted circles, and they accepted him. After his savage, thinly veiled written assault on them, they turned on him en.mssse, and it shattered him. Regardless of the viciousness and cruelty of his attack, I'm always stunned at how shocked he was when they shut him out. What an absolute idiot he was.
Why on earth would anyone would want to be with those ignorant, self absorbed, frivolous people, I will never understand!
I guess he thought he was that charming.
His mother aspired to social heights but lost everything and killed herself in the end.
The swans were as close as he got to mothering . He gained status on his own as a writer. But his connection to the swan circle protected him from the worst of homosexual abuses I think.
He was scarred from childhood and very self-destructive. Success, money, fame were the last thing he needed.
He made Jackie Kennedy’s sister Lee mad because she confided to him she was jealous of her own sister. And he told everyone.
Anyone who attended Jackie Kennedy's sister in stores in NYC, knew how absolutely full of herself she was, and how miserable was and how mistreated other people.
Very comprehensive information here. I tend to watch long videos more and more and am really sick of all the trash ai videos on youtube. Your video clearly involved a lot of work and attention. I would rather support your channel and all the lazy history channels that just repeat articles on the internet. Videos like this one are good at pulling information together for a better understanding of the topic, in this case, who Truman Capote was. I really did not know about his machinations in high society and only thought of him as someone who wrote In Cold Blood. Anyway, good job and I hope you do more long videos.
Thank you for the feedback on longer videos. I appreciate knowing this.
When Keith Richard found out Lee Radziwell and Truman Capote were following them in their 1972 tour he was less than impressed. He saw them as interlopers. He banged on Truman Capote hotel door and left a note that said, "In Cold Ketchup" written in, what else, ketchup.
The feuds didn't destroy his career, but his addictions did.
They both did. It wasn't one or the other: life is rarely so simple. Part of the problem of trying to discuss this is we haven't ever found a language that would be equal to the complexity of describing human interactions well.
@NinjaGrrrl7734 Well said!
Absolutely! The world was waiting with bated breath for him to write and create again. He could of done anything. He was no longer socializing in a group of people, he wasn't shun from the arts and the public by any means....in fact quite the contrary.
Truman was never destroyed. We are still talking about him.
And people will continue to read his books.
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I was thinking the Same Thing!! I think he had Liver Disease. No wonder he was depressed! When you're on the way out, of course, your mental state suffers! I guess he felt he had nothing to lose. Things change. Life changes. People come and go. Sometimes it's a blessing.
After a messed-up loveless childhood like he had, and the fact there was no therapy of any kind it's hardly surprising he turned out like he did. His talent for writing and surrounding himself with the troubled high class, reflected his past.
Yes, I did a video on his childhood ruclips.net/video/x-d0kbQZDvE/видео.html
I used to hang out with a kid who was desperate to mow his lawn....we were in Berkeley in the 1980s, and this young man had some fantasy that if he could become Truman's lawn mower guy that Truman may help him publish his punk rock memoir book....
How ridiculous
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@@candimcirishit was a great story! Adorable 18 yr old-ish “twink” pitching this idea!
Different times. Famous folks who inspired and influenced us were far far far away and it took months to even years to find out details about them.
No Instagram then! Made for a more captivating stories and pipe dreams hopes and …
I think he was offering the wrong kind of job
@@manichispanic5234 yup!
There is an old saying. ,Glamour evaporates under close scrutiny!:
I wouldn’t have let it slide if I was a “swan”. Capote would have been torn up! Swans ride at dawn 🙄😭😂
😂😂😂 the "Swans ride at dawn" part really got me cracking up!! 😂😂😂
Perfect hair, makeup and attire for some @$$ kicking!! Right On!
😂😂😂😂love that!
I believe Lee Radziwill took the side of Gore Vidal because his mother (Nina Gore) was at one time married to Hugh Auchincloss (Lee and Jackie’s stepfather). Although they aren’t related by blood both Lee and Jackie’s mother and Gore Vidal’s mother were both married to Hugh Auchincloss. Talk about awkward. Gore, Jackie, and Lee shared the same stepfather.
Interesting. Didn't know that. Thanks for adding to the conversation!
Was that the relation? Thank you! I knew they were connected somehow.
Gore Vidal, another author whose work was termites to social stability.
They were the women he always wanted to be.. To quote wilde... Each man kills the thing he loves... In capotes case, he did it with a pen.
Every DAMAGED man. And every damaged woman for that matter. They can't really love the way mentally healthy people do.
Credit for IN COLD BLOOD should have had Harper Lee as the co-author. They went on location together and it was she who was trusted by the locals so that they shared their knowledge with her. He took all of her work and all of the glory.
I agree! Thanks for joining the conversation!
Poor Harper got Nothing....😂 o lord...
I was going to add that, too. Glad somebody already pointed that out.
I agree.
really.....that would make interesting deep dive. Ive only read the book, never cared about the back story behind the writing of it, didnt even know Harper Lee was a part of it
By revealing the swans' secrets he 1) rejected them before they could reject him; 2) took revenge on his mother
He was a malignant gnome obsessed with fame and money. He had talent sure but it was only a catalyst he used ro gain what he really wanted: social recognition and validation.
Which he lost all in the end-thinking he could “make” society accept him. He learned THAT lesson. When you bite someone, they usually bite back.
Lee Radziwill dated Onassis before Jackie married him. How crushing for 2 sisters who were constantly comparing themselves.
I remember that! That act would have brought down any sisters relationship, and especially one that was obviously, not so privately fractured, such as Jackie, and Lee's was! I believe that Jackie knew exactly what she was doing, when she married Onassis. And how it would devastate Lee. Ah family, sometimes you can't live with them, and you can't live with them ( yes, you read that right, lol). ✌🏾💜💜
Wonderful telling of the life of Truman Capote! I've read just about everything that Truman ever wrote. Starting with Other Voices, Other Rooms (great title). I believe that he was sort of a tragic genius! A tortured, brilliant soul. He could be notoriously petty, and backbiting. But then, by turn, be your very best friend. It was said that, his once dear friend Harper Lee, who wrote To Kill A Mockingbird, fashioned the character Dill, the friend who spent summers with his aunt, and was befriended by the character Scout, was that of Truman. No matter what people thought, or think of Truman Capote, he was fascinating. His end of life was hard, and sad. But, I for one, am glad that he was once here! Thank you, for putting together such a lovely documentary! Your narration, and captivating commentary, held my interest, from beginning, to end!
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Truman Capote is portrayed on screen in the classic 1998 movie ''54 '' . He plays a very popular and active member of the Studio 54 fast-paced crowd.
I enjoyed this episode. One thing that wasn’t mentioned about Lee Radziwill and Jackie Kennedy - Lee had been dating Aristotle Onassis for YEARS and he had refused to marry her. Jackie swooped in and stole Aristotle from Lee. It’s a miracle that Lee spoke to Jackie ever again.
Hilarious
Most people forget Jackie married Onassis for the money. He “gave her” a million dollars to marry him and was in the process of filing for divorce when he died. He thought he could “buy” her, but the price was too high (when he realized his money was all she wanted). She Wouldn’t even stay in the same country he was in. When he was dying, Jackie had to fly from NY, but “opps” arrived too late. He’d died.
Lee forgave Truman after his transgressions. I think Lee was mostly non-confrontational.
Wonderful presentation! I really enjoyed it. The Narrator has a lovely sounding voice as well. Thank you again Debra Bader.
Thank you so much! Appreciate the positive feedback!
It's hard to garner sympathy for a single character, which makes it all the more fascinating. In a way they all deserved one another.
That was a lot of research and time and I just wanted you to know I truly appreciate the hard work you put in. I never met the man but I know I don't like him and never will. He used people like he used toilet paper especially the Clutter family and their friends and neighbours. Thank you once again and I look forward to another treat soon
Thank you for the feedback. I appreciate you taking your time to provide me with that inspiration for more long videos. I think you are the first person to draw the comparison of how Capote used the townspeople to get his story for In Cold Blood. Thank you for that as well.
The movie about Capote writing In Cold Blood with Toby Jones demonstrates in a very subtle way but it is there. Even Capote's childhood friend, Harper Lee sees it.
No, no, no, Gloria Vanderbilt went through a tough time when her oldest son passed away. To make matters worse her psychologist and someone else tried to take advantage of her during those dark years in her life. She barely survived that. Her husband passed away prior to her son. That all takes a toll in anyone’s soul.
Excellent insight into Truman Capote's life and work. Truly enjoyed your video. Thank you.
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Really enjoyed the details in your video -
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Thank you and THANK YOU FOR USING AUDIO OF TRUMAN'S VOICE !!!! SO MANY DO NOT !
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Yes, it is another example of the creativity and work you put into this video. I like it.
Capote hung around rich White woman who's biggest achievement was having lunch and shopping.
He had a toxic relationship with his mother and it messed his mind up to the point of hating women, and subconsciously wanting to destroy every woman in his life. I don't feel sorry for him because instead of getting help, he manifested this unforgiveable viciousness that ultimately destroyed him.
That’s why he was gay. Hates women.
His drinking after the death of the killer he got way to close to while garnering background knowledge for his book " In cold blood" is what killed his career. He fell into a deep depression and turned to drink to try and alleviate his thoughts and feelings about it. It's such a huge tragedy that the topic that would bring him his greatest success would also be his downfall.
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Fabulous video, very insightful, thanks. I don't think I've ever said the word bastxxd so often in one hour!! 😂
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Breakfast at Tiffany's is a great film but nothing like the Capote book. He wanted
Marilyn Monroe but the part was given to Audrey Hepburn.
That does seen to happen in Hollywood. Stephen King hated what they did when they first started adapting his books to the screen until her learned how to have more say in his adaptations. Thanks for joining the conversation!
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Thank you so much for this excellent work
Thank you for this brilliant documentary.
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Well done😃Loved it!
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Breakfast at Tiffany's was the mainstream beginning
In Cold Blood was The Peak
Answered Prayers was the beginning of the end and eventually the last nail in the coffin
Truman Capote way of writing made him famous and canceled at the same time. He could've been used allegorical narratives in Answered Prayers particularly "La Cotê Basque 1965".
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In spite of everything, he was a very talented writer and many of his phrases were adapted intact into the screenplay of ' Breakfast at Tiffany's '.
He was a master with words. Writers tell stories about what interests them. He didn't do anything that other writers haven't done. I loved him. I'm a writer so I know the process. Most don't. He was a fabulous writer and many were jealous. Kids that are abused or neglected have problems.
Fabulous video. You did a great job.
Truman Capote did not have any sides that were not "dark."
Such a messed up situation. Very sad for all
Babe Paley was beautiful. I think Capote was a real snake. He got them to trust him, and then he betrayed them, and people really got hurt. He did it repeatedly and he wasn't just targeting the upper class, he was targetting women.
I think that a lot of people are missing the point you are making. He is targeting women. Thanks for joining the cOnversation!
Exactly. I remember him as a truly horrible man and never did understand how anyone could trust him. He always “came off” as a snake and snakes don’t change.
So basically, Truman was getting revenge on his mother by killing his swans.
These women all look hungry to me
Because they live on cigarettes and starvation
I think that TC thought he was a woman. He was angry at the world because he was not a woman. Therefore, he was hateful.
Huh? He was a Gay man. He didn't want to be a woman. That's not how that works.
Huh? He was a Gay man. He didn't want to be a woman. That's not how that works.
He wouldn’t have been happy as a woman either. Still would have been short, unattractive and mean.
Yep he wanted to be the rich baddie deep down
I remembered watching him on the Tonight Show with Johnny Carson and other talk shows as a kid growing up. I thought he was strange, of course because of his distinctive voice, but mainly because he appeared to be totally wasted, slurring his words. I didn’t know what drunk was back then as a kid,never having seen a drunk person before. He was funny though and made the audience and host laugh a lot He was really short and thought he might be related to Paul Williams, the song writer/ actor because they looked somewhat similar. Watching this about him now is fascinating. I guess he was a unhappy person that was never really found true happiness and envied other people. I remember hearing that he lived with Joanne Carson after she was divorced Johnny.
This is such a thoughtful, well researched presentation that the glaring error of eluding to Ann Woodward being one of Truman Capote's "Swans" almost ruins it. Woodward was never part of his circle and the two of them were openly hostile toward each other and that fact is well documented. the correction of this obvious flaw would make this an excellent documentary rather than just a good one.
I really enjoyed that. Thanks!
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You made a very obvious legal error in the Ann Woodward story. Grand juries indict/vote on the charging documents; they do not convict anyone of anything. It is a regular jury that decides whether a person is guilty or not guilty of the charges.
I guess only lawyers should make videos. jEEEZ....
@@dividends4retirement I'm so sorry you are upset by a learning moment not directed at you
I’m so sorry you’re so contemptuous of other people
People who resort to ad hominem attacks are unable to argue their points of view legitimately.
This is a good article. I really like the longer version.
THanks for letting me know!
I believe that exploitation was a double edged sword in this case. Capote exploited the Swans for his needs and they exploited him for theirs. For the most part, probably equitable exploitation (if there is such a thing). However, betrayal is an entirely different matter. Capote had not written anything in years and had been give several deadlines and some generous advances by Random House to complete Answered Prayers, which he was struggling to do. Having all of that juicy gossip in his back pocket was just too tempting, in my opinion.
What an interesting documentary- thank you.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Now i want to read his works
It is a little sad he had to hang out with those rich women, he did not need them with his talent and brains, and they did not need him as a a faux friend, a sign of those times...?
He could have hailed on his own for sure! Was he was envious. I wonder if his intention was always to stick it to them. Women used to love hanging with gay men. The perfect man? Made them feel beautiful. Then he would backstab them. Witnessed it countless times. They’d all been better off had they not met each other.
He was marginally accepted due to his fame and his gossip. In other words, the court jester. Later, after his banishment, once he got deeper into his addictions, no one wanted him around.
Great pictorial and Truman was a gas !
Great well researched video
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Penultimate means second to last.
Why have you given Truman a Cockney drawl? He's from the South not South London.
I noticed that too, I thought I was tripping or he was that affected. 😂😂😂
The audio clips *_are_* Truman's voice! He was that affected...
Wow, wondered that too! If it was actual audio footage....kept thinking it must have been his real voice in there, somewhere, lol! He was that affected
This was part of Truman’s facade. He thought he could pretend to be whatever he wanted and would be accepted. It was a true “deserved justice” when he fell “out” with everyone he’d used.
Nope,- that's it ,- believe it or not.
Truman Capote i had no idea about the tea of Jackie and Lee so many things went untod thos is so interesting
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I agree!
I think he had spite for these type of women from the very beginning, rather than it developing from being around them. He ingratiated himself and pretended to be a trustworthy, compassionate confidante so they’d reveal their private matters to him.
Al Hirschfeld drew the illustration. I have no sympathy for these people.
In Cold Blood was a dark,brooding,haunting violent movie.And it was a true story.
It was a fictionalized “true story.”
Philip Seymour Hoffman played Truman Capote in a bio film about his life. It was a role that made his career soar. Didn't 🤔 Capote was a drug abuser similar to Hoffman also
Dear Person, thank you… something I didn’t know…”Death by Alcholism” Wow! Spot on… TC was clearly aware enough to write what his thoughts and recollections were, including his regrets. So very sad, because , I imagine, TC took a self accounting and was most honest with himself… God Bless this TC who, it seems…apologized… This, I didn’t know… I’m “Nurse Jane” btw… thank you! God Bless you! Stay safe!
Thanks for sharing!
No mention of the tribe who ran publishing. A tribe Capote himself called out. And Paley? Hmm... Much missing here.
What a predicament to find yourself in! The Swans were probably chafing in their scarves for wanting to bring a lawsuit for slander and libel. But that would be to risk letting the public know for sure the characters were indeed, themselves. And with such an untrustworthy defendant, the danger of more damage (as in scorched earth) to be done was too real.
Bravo! Just hearing “The Stork Club” sends shivers up my spine! wow! Can you believe, I recall many of these fabulous photos you’ve included! Smile, please…think of a “Swan” on the small New England Island… Of course, she’s going to be gowned in a long Summer frock, wearing all her appropriate “Jewlery! No ‘Connor” for a Ne York Swan… Bravo! And thank you!
I find it difficult to empathize with individuals with such shallow and material driven motivations.What can be called " glamourous" could easily be regarded as greedy, wasteful, and ultimately foolish.Those who idolize such individuals now ,as then, seem simply lost and empty clout chasers to me, and nothing bears this out more than the realities of these " swans" fates and lives.
He didnt betray his swans. He just roasted and ate them. Its not betrayal if its premeditated. Those swans should have known not to eat the bread. There were signs clearly posted.
All round tragic for both author & "Swans". Regardless of how things ended,Capote was a supremely gifted writer,some of whose short stories in particular must be among the best of any 20th century American author.
How interesting and sad. I remember reading his novel ‘In Cold Blood’ serialized in the New Yorker when I was a Freshman in college. I found it fascinating. It is a shame he lost faith in himself and died in the way he did.
No University? Amazing talent.
Right! university then… not so much now
The rich don't like to be gossiped about.
Does anyone like to be gossiped about? Especially when the gossip can ruin the lives we have carved out for ourselves?
The compilation of facts & files must have been difficult & very time consuming to compile.Well done👏&💯% congratulations❗.It confirms my opinion he was 80% talent & 20% assho*e or 60% as*hole & 40% talent..&..or ..&..ratios could go on infinitum, in other words the combination of attitudes of the time spanning influential eras/decades & influence of his peers, his talent, his homosexuality, his general character & his unusual (for the time writing skills & pattern) will remain an uncompletedenigma (but whose writing talent & contribution to modern writing cannot be ignored just as Steinbecks, Greenes, Roths etc of the 20th century & many other American writing genres ).
Really good video. Thank you for this! 👍
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I have one hundred pages of a book written. I don't know if I will ever get it published.
decide that it will.
Yesssss his addictions assisted in his demise and death due to you can’t keep abusing ur body! Plus the fact that his books were not doing so well. So he writes about them and he does backstabs them. Yes he played them all! He delved into their insecurities and made sure he boosted his but everything fell apart for him and he was ousted!
But- the fox told them who he was from the beginning….
Well done
thanks!
Truman Capote’s mother was a piece of work! 😅
That is NOT Gloria Guinness to the left of Capote. The woman on the right is, in fact, Babe Paley. Also, it's EYE-na, not E-na.
You have to truly hate yourself to want to purposely hurt others ….SAD NO MATTER WHICH WAY YOU FLIP IT!!!
The reason that he wiggled his way into the lives of these women because he was very gay and loved gossip. So they told him all their frustrations especially around their husbands womanizing. He liked his link to the parties this level of society and it fed his narcissistic ego.
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Jealous of the charm and beauty of beautiful,stylish women. Still happened with some gay men today.
But they are guys why being jealousy to women
A deep dive into lives, high or low on a social scale, would reveal episodes of the same level of human pain, and turmoil. We all are in need of a Savior. Capote, and his cohorts only highlight this universal need, and lack..so much for idols we admire. What a pathetic substitute.
Women's main role was motherhood. They were not allowed to work if married . So, rich beautiful women like these married rich men . It's how they survived. It wasn't necessarily about love, it was about sex, having children , financial partnership and it was supposed to be a legal , long term arrangement. Many parents arranged introductions toward marriage.
In Cold Blood sounds all too much like how he lived when he betrayed the women who had befriended him! 😅
We can only guess how much these swans talked about Truman behind his back. Gays were not accepted very much. He may have heard about the gossip about his homosexuality. Homophobia was always nipping at his heels. Just saying. There's 2 sides to every story.