Why I Changed My Mind on Water Fluoridation

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  • Опубликовано: 5 май 2024
  • The effects of fluoride on the brain. Based on new research, the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services’ National Toxicology Program reached a draft conclusion that fluoride should be “presumed to be a cognitive neurodevelopmental hazard to humans."
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  • @NutritionFactsOrg
    @NutritionFactsOrg  22 дня назад +16

    Is Water Fluoridation Safe? Check out the video: ruclips.net/video/d39N34r5Dv0/видео.htmlsi=4iSe4XNw14nympfs

    • @CharGC123
      @CharGC123 22 дня назад

      The hubris of mankind astounds me! You can never change just one thing... there are always downstream effects. To think that we have the knowledge to univerally subject everyone to a forced policy of adding fluoride or anything to everyone's water without consequences is insanity, especially when one man's medicine can be another's poison. And with their track record I certainly don't want gov. agencies involved in my personal health decisions, especially after the covid debacle! Sure glad we have a well.

    • @AtlantisArch
      @AtlantisArch 21 день назад +1

      1/ignore
      2/laugh
      3/fight
      Then you win.
      Worst nutritionfact title ever.

    • @Craxxet
      @Craxxet 18 дней назад +3

      @@AtlantisArch Agreed. It's neither described (A) what Greger's stance on Fluoride was or (B) what it changed to.

  • @misterx3188
    @misterx3188 22 дня назад +132

    If you can't change your mind, you can't change anything.

    • @markrice3019
      @markrice3019 22 дня назад +1

      😀 when 1 can Not change there Mind, they change Nothing 😃

    • @TheVeganHeathen
      @TheVeganHeathen 22 дня назад +4

      I mean you can not change your mind on anything and you're still going to be changing things by default just by doing stuff. That said the grain of truth in that statement is that to make positive changes, in general, you most likely need to be open-minded when looking at the evidence with regard to any given subject.

  • @MettleHurlant
    @MettleHurlant 22 дня назад +45

    I opposed fluoridation in my region because it is medicating us without consent, we can’t control dosage and we don’t know enough about the effects. I’m a proponent of biomonitoring and the information that is gathered regarding plastics, chemicals, and other environmental toxins that accumulate in the body.

  • @MictheVegan
    @MictheVegan 22 дня назад +191

    So a fluoridated water supply seems like a risk but fluoridated toothpaste, which ideally isn't swallowed, seems to be the best of both worlds. It's worth mentioning that fluoride improves dental health and poor dental health is well associated with cardiovascular disease and death (Kotronia et al., 2021), likely via inflammation from bacteria and this is also a concern for stroke in particular (Sen et al., 2023). I will keep with the toothpaste and using filtered water but would be happy to have an effective fluoride alternative. So far, things like xylitol underperform (-0.4% remineralization vs fluoride's +9%, though the combination was better - Tange et al., 2004). While I'd like a solution that doesn't make people dumber, I would be curious to see an analysis comparing heart disease death risk with fluoridated water to compare these issues.

    • @MictheVegan
      @MictheVegan 22 дня назад +43

      I guess I answered my own question with a Finnish study finding that fluoridated water was associated with lower heart disease: Kaipio et al., 2004. It was 16- 22% lower in the high fluoride group but as they say, causality can't be determined but dental health is connected to heart disease. Ugh do I need to make a video?

    • @user-wk4ee4bf8g
      @user-wk4ee4bf8g 22 дня назад

      Strengthening the teeth does nothing to a generally nasty mouth full of plaque except make it degrade less quickly. But it does nothing to the ongoing swallowing of inflammatpry plaques. You simply have to clean your teeth, that is how you reduce health issues from yucky teeth, remove the yuck. Drinking flouride is a completely insane thing to do, it would only be on the teeth for a short amount of time.

    • @PhrozenKPM
      @PhrozenKPM 22 дня назад +30

      Mic, what about the effects of flouride on the oral microbiome and in particular nitric oxide production? You're trading marginal tooth enamel gains for detrimental effects on your circulatory system.

    • @okaight7248
      @okaight7248 22 дня назад +13

      @@MictheVegan Please make the vid

    • @Kayte...
      @Kayte... 22 дня назад +20

      And even if toothpaste isn't swallowed, it still is absorbed in the mouth. The amount may be insignificant?
      How about avoiding the cause of tooth decay with a proper diet. Yes, damage from antibiotics and other drugs may be hard to avoid but diet is a choice.

  • @BenedictusEsDomine
    @BenedictusEsDomine 19 дней назад +12

    I feel vindicated. I’m a fan of Dr. Greger. I met him years ago and asked him about this. He defended fluoridation. I argued against it. My reasoning was simple: While fluoride might be helpful for teeth, it is not good to ingest. So, why put it into the water? Dr. Greger conceded back then that water fluoridation doesn’t do any good to those already regularly brushing, and it wasn’t adequate for those not brushing regularly. A better solution to those not brushing would be to give them free toothpaste. He didn’t have any good response to my reasoning. But he kept to his position. Glad he came around.

    • @barnabydehoedt
      @barnabydehoedt 6 дней назад

      does the body not absorb fluoride from toothpaste through the mouth? Presume its an extremely minimal amount?

    • @BenedictusEsDomine
      @BenedictusEsDomine 5 дней назад +1

      @@barnabydehoedt Yes, for sure. I always found it a little concerning that according to tubes of toothpaste we are to call a doctor immediately if we swallow any more than is used for brushing. I have used non-fluoride toothpaste for year, with better results than from flouride toothpaste. I also eat a pretty clean diet. That helps a lot. Blessings.

  • @Technoriety
    @Technoriety 22 дня назад +37

    Fluoride disrupts nitric oxide in the body.
    We need another video on this angle.
    1997 Noble Prize researchers showed nitric oxide is an important neurotransmitter, and essential for cardiovascular health. Disrupt it and you disrupt cardiovascular health.

    • @rameshraghothama8324
      @rameshraghothama8324 21 день назад

      Mylanta has Aluminum, im hearing aluminum hydroxide can chelate fluoride ,, and further Silicon dioxide too may bind fluoride . In the body Fluoride usually binds hard to Calcium and ends up as Calcium Fluoride or Calcium Fluorophosphate - both are insoluble in water and im not sure they end up in bone , renal stones or calcifying soft tissues. I dont know if high blood albumin levels or high BUN can mitigate this risk.

    • @darkhorseman8263
      @darkhorseman8263 21 день назад +4

      NO2 is a slave ossilator of circadian rhythm and epigenetic quality control. It's not just a gastrotrasmittor.

    • @butterflylove2642
      @butterflylove2642 14 дней назад

      @@rameshraghothama8324 I wouldn’t use aluminum of any kind for any reason. Aluminum is toxic & associated now with Alzheimer’s. Chelate with things like Cilantro and parsley. Get your Calcium from plants such as Broccoli, dark leafy greens, mushrooms, and seaweed. Peace. 🕊🌱💚

  • @laurieanne9712
    @laurieanne9712 22 дня назад +64

    Yes, fluoride , as well as chlorine & bromide are listed as inhibiting thyroxine uptake, a reason perhaps of our ubiquitous thyroid problems in our country!

    • @setouttowonder9923
      @setouttowonder9923 22 дня назад +6

      They inhibit the intake of other halides too, including... drum roll... iodine.

    • @user-fx6kq3qi5e
      @user-fx6kq3qi5e 22 дня назад

      Thyroxine is the most prescribed drug globally, according to Dr Helen O’Neill.

    • @Craxxet
      @Craxxet 22 дня назад +4

      Listed by whom and at what levels? Regular milk probably inhibits uptake of 100+ substances found in food (yes, also thyroxine). I think we could save a lot of time and just blame all nutritional problems on people drinking too much milk.

    • @setouttowonder9923
      @setouttowonder9923 22 дня назад +3

      @Craxxet Might still be good to know the next worst thing, especially if you don't drink milk.

    • @truenokill
      @truenokill 9 дней назад

      A cluster of breast cancer on long Island was tied directly to chlorine

  • @ronaldcoley9982
    @ronaldcoley9982 22 дня назад +30

    Too many people are late on this. Including many health advocates. Unfortunately this is why people will continue to throw their own conclusions out there because when stuff like this comes out, they’ll think they’re right. Science needs to be a lot faster when it comes to our health.

    • @stephenmorton8017
      @stephenmorton8017 22 дня назад +1

      like 70 years too late? ha! we all saved so much time at the dentist.

    • @botzer8817
      @botzer8817 22 дня назад +3

      "It must be healthy if it protects our teeth 🤤"

    • @ryankargel5837
      @ryankargel5837 18 дней назад +1

      The IQ data is new. Older claims made by anti-fluoride are still false.

    • @alvareo92
      @alvareo92 9 дней назад

      The problem is that science is expensive to conduct (specially when it's requiring more and more advanced/expensive machinery as of late) and is thus dependant on donations and funding which will come, logically, from those with the greatest wealth and economic power. And they mostly care about their needs, not those that bring wellbeing to the most of humankind.

  • @subversivevegan
    @subversivevegan 22 дня назад +33

    75 years before we get actual science. eek.

    • @kbkesq
      @kbkesq 6 дней назад

      Only 71 years to go on Covid vaccines for kids. 🙄

  • @TheVeganHeathen
    @TheVeganHeathen 22 дня назад +19

    I think it's great that Dr Greger put this information out there -- I wasn't expecting him to essentially acknowledge that water flouridation is an issue. That being said, it was kind of frustrating that he didn't actually state his opinion and how it changed to conclude the video. I'm not sure if he thought that would make him look unprofessional or something, but we clearly have more than enough data to show that fluoride shouldn't be in the water supply. If people want flouride to prevent cavities, then get flouride toothpaste and brush you teeth well with it. Don't make everyone drink it and effect the neurological development of children (and possibly/ultimately adults) just to prevent dental issues in people that don't brush their teeth with flouride toothpaste.

    • @vegangreatlife
      @vegangreatlife 21 день назад +2

      @TheVeganHeathen 100% agree. I wish he would have acknowledged his change of position as well. I appreciate that he puts these studies up, yet I’d hate to see people lose confidence in him due to lack of transparency ~ which these days is prevalent!

    • @reinux
      @reinux 21 день назад +2

      I thought the conclusion was tacitly obvious.

    • @TheVeganHeathen
      @TheVeganHeathen 21 день назад

      @@reinux For something so important, I would have expected him to say that he thinks were shouldn't have flouride in our water supply based on the evidence and/or acknowledge the errors that made him believe the opposite to highlight how he and others can learn from that. If it were any other topic he would have done that if you've watched his other videos. He pretty much never completes a series without summing up his own thoughts on the subject.

    • @reinux
      @reinux 21 день назад +2

      @@TheVeganHeathen Really? A ton of his videos take the format "X does Y to your body, but also does Z" and leaves the audience to make the obvious conclusion.

    • @TheVeganHeathen
      @TheVeganHeathen 20 дней назад +2

      @@reinux Im talking about when he does a series - not just one video. And in most of the videos where he leaves it the audience to draw a conclusion its when there isn’t enough data to make conclusive statements - which there clearly is in this case.

  • @Kevindavegan
    @Kevindavegan 22 дня назад +12

    Fluoridation is forced medication regardless of impact.

    • @leigh5863
      @leigh5863 9 дней назад

      There are many substances in tap water besides flouride...

  • @natemathews3780
    @natemathews3780 22 дня назад +28

    Good turn Dr. Greger, keep fighting the good fight!

  • @damien86
    @damien86 21 день назад +6

    How about we not force medication on to people!

  • @charlesmaguire3492
    @charlesmaguire3492 22 дня назад +32

    No studies done on the build up of fluoride in the environment!!

  • @Apollo440
    @Apollo440 22 дня назад +69

    Fluoride being used in WW2 concentration camps' water supply convinced me first. What convinced me the second time, was the fact how fluoride water levels were introduced as a "norm" based on the impossibility to stop aluminium factories from contaminating groundwaters with fluoride. Plus, the accepted "dosing" of fluoride from tap water was iffy from the get go - with no differentiation on how much every man, woman and child drank...

    • @Craxxet
      @Craxxet 22 дня назад

      > with no differentiation on how much every man, woman and child drank...
      Because it literally doesn't matter?? If you drink fluoridated water with a concentration of 0.7 mg/ml, your body's water will approach 0.7 mg/ml over time. People who drink a lot of water (and probably contain more of it) don't magically end up with more fluoride and vice-versa.

    • @JackMyersPhotography
      @JackMyersPhotography 22 дня назад +1

      What was the concentration camp thing that convinced you?What was the reason?

    • @reinux
      @reinux 21 день назад +2

      Not that I disagree with your conclusion, and correct me if I'm wrong about this anyway, but I guess the dosage ingested is naturally proportional to water intake, which is more or less proportional to body weight, and the amount of effective exposure is proportional to the number of times the water passes by your teeth? So you can get an effective does regardless of age, but you'd have to adjust for whoever is the most sensitive, ie developing children.

    • @rinkuhero
      @rinkuhero 21 день назад +3

      @@reinuxthere can be huge differences in water intake based on activity level though. athletes / bodybuilders / runners can drink 3 gallons of water a day regularly, for example. considering it's good to try to get people to exercise, it's sort of an annoying thing that the more you exercise, the more water you need to drink, and that can get you into the dangerous levels if you drink enough of it. so like... i'd say if someone does like to exercise, it's good to get a reverse osmosis filter.

    • @reinux
      @reinux 21 день назад +2

      @@rinkuhero I want to say they'd presumably account for that too to keep it under the upper limit, but... yeah, you're right, that's probably an oversight too.

  • @VeganGorilla555
    @VeganGorilla555 22 дня назад +60

    I've been avoiding fluoridated products for about 15 years now.

    • @xperience-evolution
      @xperience-evolution 22 дня назад +5

      Same here but close to 20. My mother stopped buying toothpaste with fluoride and I continued

    • @JakeIsLearning
      @JakeIsLearning 22 дня назад

      Noticed any difference?

    • @VeganGorilla555
      @VeganGorilla555 22 дня назад +2

      @@JakeIsLearning nope

    • @anderslvolljohansen1556
      @anderslvolljohansen1556 22 дня назад

      A developing fetus is sensitive to small amounts of fluoride, it seems.
      Adults who aren't pregnant can probably safely brush with fluoridated toothpaste if they spit it out afterwards.

    • @krslavin
      @krslavin 22 дня назад +3

      It seems to primarily be a childhood neurological development issue. Too late now, I guess, but out of an abundance of caution, I also stopped taking it twenty years ago as an adult. I used polycarbonate plastic water bottles for several years, until I found out they leached BPA into the water...

  • @jonnenne
    @jonnenne 22 дня назад +54

    One city in Finland tried it in 70s. Since then and before that fluoride has not been used in drinking water here. Good idea it seems

    • @oskariKN25
      @oskariKN25 22 дня назад +1

      I never knew that finland doesn't use fluorinated water? And I lived here my whole life... Weird gap in my knowledge.

    • @Lukky_Luke
      @Lukky_Luke 22 дня назад +7

      same in Norway never had any extra flouride put in it. So maybe thats why Americans think euopre is a country :D

    • @Andrelour
      @Andrelour 22 дня назад +2

      @@Lukky_Luke 🤣🤣 they eat and drink very bad quality stuff and shout like they're the best in the universe

    • @kiljupullo
      @kiljupullo 22 дня назад +2

      But toothpaste has 1500ppm fluoride in it in Finland. Even toothpaste for toddlers has 1000ppm. It is rapidly absorbed by mucous membranes. Good luck finding non-fluoridated toothpaste here...

    • @patriciahoke4722
      @patriciahoke4722 22 дня назад +1

      Drinking water in Finland contains 0.0-7.6 ppm fluoride in piped water and other sources of drinking water (National Board of Health, Finland, 1974). In Kuopio, drinking water has been fluoridated since 1959, up to 1.2 ppm.

  • @DavidMCammack
    @DavidMCammack 22 дня назад +7

    another "conspiracy theory" validated

  • @Comenta-san
    @Comenta-san 22 дня назад +26

    "rereviewed their redrafted draft" is all that I needed today 😂

  • @RC-qf3mp
    @RC-qf3mp 22 дня назад +5

    If you aren’t 100% sure it’s good to add it, don’t. People who want fluoride know where to get it.

  • @Tony.Galanopoulos
    @Tony.Galanopoulos 11 дней назад

    I demand a public apology from everyone who called us crazy, conspiracy theorists, aluminum hat wearers etc

  • @silversobe
    @silversobe 22 дня назад +35

    Need to get it out of city water supply asap.

  • @frenchlearner19
    @frenchlearner19 18 дней назад +1

    This is so important. Absolutely no reason to be consuming fluoride.

  • @doctorlexus5388
    @doctorlexus5388 22 дня назад +5

    These comments are from the first video….
    There is a difference between calcium fluoride and sodium fluoride. Calcium fluoride is what naturally mineralizes teeth and is found in soil and different foods and herbs. Sodium fluoride, which is artificially added to tap water, toothpaste, and other dental products, is highly toxic and has been linked to mental retardation, brain and organ damage, pacifies populations by calcifying the pineal gland, and causes dental fluorosis (browning of teeth) in high amounts. Sodium fluoride is a highly industrialized artificial chemical shown to destroy lymphocytes in a study on rabbits
    (information that has been scrubbed off of the internet for the past decade) so it cannot be compared to the naturally occuring calcium fluoride.
    It’s funny how the state with the highest levels of added fluoride, Kentucky, also happens to be the state with the highest occurrence of dental caries and tooth loss. The studies cited always omit the studies that show the opposite results
    The whole issue is that the allopathic medical model and three letter agencies ignore this fact and act like both types of fluoride are identical and lead to identical outcomes. This is anti-science and criminal because they do not provide informed consent from populations that receive artificial fluoridation.

  • @s-t-f
    @s-t-f 22 дня назад +4

    In the end: "Please review your research until it speaks on our behalf!"

  • @SecretMountainTroll
    @SecretMountainTroll 22 дня назад +173

    No reason to be drinking fluoride

    • @spektred
      @spektred 22 дня назад +19

      Truth. If it helps your teeth, brush your teeth with floruide toothpaste, but then spit that 💩 out.

    • @presterjohn1697
      @presterjohn1697 22 дня назад +11

      @@spektred How did man develop over the course of millions of years without fluoride?

    • @communismisthefuture6503
      @communismisthefuture6503 22 дня назад +1

      @@presterjohn1697just because humans survived without something doesn’t mean it can’t improve our health. Humans also survived without brushing teeth, yet everyone would agree that it improves human health. Careful with your lack of critical thinking, it will lead you to incorrect conclusions

    • @libertyvegan6686
      @libertyvegan6686 22 дня назад +11

      @@presterjohn1697 Largely with shorter average lifespans, on limited variety diets and in the healthiest circumstance fruits naturally containing xylitol (berries), with basic tooth brushing but despite such on average bad teeth.

    • @spektred
      @spektred 22 дня назад +8

      @@presterjohn1697 A good question, I let Googles AI answer it - Compared to modern standards, native peoples throughout history generally did not have -perfect- oral health. However, their teeth often fared better than those of Europeans during corresponding eras.
      Native American Dental Care:
      Natural Diet: Their diet consisted more of fruits, vegetables, and lean proteins compared to the refined sugars and starches prominent in European diets. This reduced the intake of fermentable carbohydrates that contribute to cavities.
      Chew Sticks and Herbs: Native Americans used natural tools like twigs frayed at the ends or abrasive leaves as makeshift toothbrushes. They also chewed on herbs with antiseptic properties to freshen breath and potentially reduce inflammation.

  • @stevef6523
    @stevef6523 20 дней назад +4

    We need to contrast this against the negative health effects of reduced dental hygiene. Having teeth decay early, and the related secondary health effects on heart and brain function, is a serious issue. I doubt very much that the cognitive changes at a population level are worth the trade off. Especially when it looks like it's more a matter of just avoiding it during pregnancy and early childhood.

    • @MJU682
      @MJU682 11 дней назад

      Dental hygiene can be better if people cut down on the sugar 😊. Fluoride is a neurotoxin. HELLO are your there? You don’t neee to drink fluoride to help your teeth. Just use a fluoride toothpaste. Drinking fluoride is bad for you. It is simple. There is no way to justify it. Stop spreading disinformation

  • @chadillac2472
    @chadillac2472 22 дня назад +5

    New research? This is OLD news.

  • @ThePapawhisky
    @ThePapawhisky 22 дня назад +2

    That’s how good science works. We verify what we thought or we change to fit the preponderance of data. Changing our minds is success.

  • @anthony5732
    @anthony5732 21 день назад +2

    It's concerning that people are ingesting an uncontrolled dose of fluoride, depending on the level of fluoride in your area and how much you drink each day, whether you rinse out after brushing your teeth (recommended not to by dentist), etc. There doesn't appear to be a safe amount of fluoride, as is the case with many known toxic substances, such as alcohol, air pollution, etc. I wonder if the effects are cumulative over a lifetime?

  • @gavinbrinck
    @gavinbrinck 12 дней назад +1

    glad to see the flip. had issues seeing you supporting this for a long time. *peace* .. hopefully you can look at the vaccine data next ? *hugs* and *truth*

  • @DoctorRevers
    @DoctorRevers 22 дня назад +12

    It’s fine for brushing teeth and washing dishes. Use a water filter to drink.

    • @anderslvolljohansen1556
      @anderslvolljohansen1556 22 дня назад

      I suggest pregnant women limit their use of fluoridated toothpaste and mouthwash, and compensate by abstaining from sugary foods and sweets/candy that promote tooth decay.

    • @DoctorRevers
      @DoctorRevers 22 дня назад +1

      @@anderslvolljohansen1556 like fruit? What’s this based on btw?

    • @davidlee691
      @davidlee691 22 дня назад

      What filter?!

    • @krslavin
      @krslavin 22 дня назад +3

      Water filters don't work as the fluoride molecules are very small. The only thing that works seems to be a reverse-osmosis filter, which also wastes water. I had one installed in our kitchen sink, but unfortunately it leaked and we had to spend a fortune fixing water damage!

    • @DoctorRevers
      @DoctorRevers 22 дня назад

      @@davidlee691 like a berkey water filter with fluoride removal. Gets rid of chlorine,ammonia/chloramine etc.

  • @quintama1007
    @quintama1007 22 дня назад

    Very interesting ones, doctor!

  • @AndrewPawley11
    @AndrewPawley11 22 дня назад +4

    I love this channel!

  • @ktms1188
    @ktms1188 22 дня назад +9

    My personal belief on fluoride is depending on your genetic make up, your range on a scale from Very little, to statistically significant affects. Why not just fluoride the toothpaste which you do not swallow compared to drinking water where in the poorest group of society does not have bottled water or filters available. Fluoride is nasty stuff in build up over time. It does remineralize teeth, but when ingested the scale of side effects can be pretty substantial. If the poorest groups of society are affected the most, and their IQs have been going down for years, you would think people would be looking harder for an answer if they really cared. Fluoride was taken overtime has been 100% shown to either neutral or very negatively affectl, that’s enough for me

  • @henryp.
    @henryp. 18 дней назад +1

    Regained some extra respect for changing your position, thanks.

  • @jakyuuy
    @jakyuuy 18 дней назад

    Love your reporting and research! Keep it up! Thank you to find out the truth about our foods etc.!

  • @proudchristian77
    @proudchristian77 22 дня назад +14

    How many kids were born with hypothyroidism, because I was ! maybe there is a link ? in the 60 's

  • @adhas
    @adhas 22 дня назад +4

    "RE-reviewed their redrafted draft"! Looking forward to the re-re-review of the re-redrafted draft!

  • @wl32
    @wl32 22 дня назад

    Appreciate the open minded analysis!

  • @emergentform1188
    @emergentform1188 20 дней назад +1

    Time to get a reverse osmosis water filter system if you don't have well water or something clean and uncontaminated with fluoride (and don't forget to add trace minerals to it). Also, plastic jugs of water have their own issues and should be avoided as well.

  • @LiberacionIgualdad
    @LiberacionIgualdad 21 день назад +1

    I'd love to know about the effects of fluoride in tea, other beverages and food in general!

  • @jackiepenner-lourdes3374
    @jackiepenner-lourdes3374 20 дней назад

    Thank you Dr. Greger!

  • @ronaldcoley9982
    @ronaldcoley9982 22 дня назад +5

    So it seems people should be getting water systems that filter out fluoride like reverse osmosis!

  • @LegacyFarmandFiber
    @LegacyFarmandFiber 8 дней назад +2

    We knew this years ago and we were all called conspiracy theorists.

  • @HumbleBee123
    @HumbleBee123 22 дня назад +2

    Most people have known it's bad for years. I still use flouride toothpaste as worried about teeth health but my water company doesnt use flouride.

  • @Joseph93
    @Joseph93 22 дня назад +4

    It never made sense that my toothless babies drank flouridated water.

  • @berniesaabman9203
    @berniesaabman9203 21 день назад +1

    I’ve never understood the idea behind the fluoridation of water supply. If it’s allegedly good for your teeth it seems to be an ineffective way to get it. If we drink 2litres a day it is only a small amount of water used in a household. Most is used for bathing, washing, watering the garden etc and sweet FA for human consumption.

  • @anitahamlin2411
    @anitahamlin2411 22 дня назад +5

    If a hazmat suit is required to put it in the water, it's hazardous!

    • @leigh5863
      @leigh5863 9 дней назад

      Yes, because it is handled at large dosages... Micro-dosing something is very different. This is like saying taking 1kg of caffeine is the same as drinking a cup of coffee. In almost every single food you consume there are small doses of "toxins" for example there is indeed heavy metal contamination in most things, with this logic why not avoid all foods? Dose makes the poison!

    • @ZxAMobile
      @ZxAMobile 8 дней назад +1

      @@leigh5863 Nah, nobody wears suits when they process coffee or ANY natural food. Terrible example.

    • @leigh5863
      @leigh5863 8 дней назад

      @@ZxAMobile You missed the point entirely. Anything can indeed be "toxic" the dosage is what causes the toxicological effect.
      Caffeine we know has an LD50 of about 20mg/kg. Thus, if a population of 100 people took 20mg/kg caffeine they 50/100 would die. The other 50 would survive statistically speaking, that's because caffeine indeed has a toxicological effect like any nutrient or substance found within nature.
      If we are talking about something like flouride of course the LD50 of flouride or even the TD50 of flouride would be much lower than something such as caffeine. The point is, flouride is already present in our environment and we are consuming it in small doses every single day, regardless of whether we drink it or not from tap water.
      Even water naturally found in the environment contains flouride. Here what we should be focused on is the dose present in the water, not the fact it is "toxic", again everything is toxic at a big enough dose. Control the dose because it is the only thing we can control, this is only logical. I am able to view the dosage of flouride in tap water as here we have the water tested and the dosage here is 0.1-0.3mg/L. They do not add fluoride to the tap water, this is the naturally occurring level in the local supply. This is an extremely low dose (x10 lower than the allowed limit).
      Furthermore, I am not speaking from an uneducated perspective I have a bachelor's degree in biomedical science, I've studied pharmacology, toxicology and all the rest, I also have a master's in nutrition, I am not just chatting out my ass funnily enough.

  • @CB-ew5qt
    @CB-ew5qt 21 день назад +2

    I would have burned my books if he said fluoride good. Kim iverson did a great segment on it recently

    • @bryant475
      @bryant475 14 дней назад

      Yep, let's pray he wakes up about the jab eventually as well!

  • @robinh6623
    @robinh6623 22 дня назад +4

    It's industrial fluoride. Enough said.

  • @admin8446
    @admin8446 14 дней назад +1

    This "change of mind" was actually a commonsensical conclusion many arrived at using already existing indirect evidence.
    If the approach is to wait for official acceptance, you'll do and recommend harm to your viewers, reinforcing official misinformation.

  • @mchagawa1615
    @mchagawa1615 22 дня назад +1

    Thank you so much

  • @Mark-cy1ys
    @Mark-cy1ys 22 дня назад +3

    Flouride occurs naturally in water and food, but not at the levels were exposed to now. The back of the Flouride tube says "Call poison control Center"

    • @doctorlexus5388
      @doctorlexus5388 22 дня назад

      Exactly and for good reason.
      There is a difference between calcium fluoride and sodium fluoride. Calcium fluoride is what naturally mineralizes teeth and is found in soil and different foods and herbs. Sodium fluoride, which is artificially added to tap water, toothpaste, and other dental products, is highly toxic and has been linked to mental retardation, brain and organ damage, pacifies populations by calcifying the pineal gland, and causes dental fluorosis (browning of teeth) in high amounts. Sodium fluoride is a highly industrialized artificial chemical shown to destroy lymphocytes in a study on rabbits
      (information that has been scrubbed off of the internet for the past decade) so it cannot be compared to the naturally occuring calcium fluoride.
      It’s funny how the state with the highest levels of this added fluoride, Kentucky, also happens to be the state with the highest occurrence of dental caries and tooth loss. The studies cited always omit the studies that show the opposite results
      The whole issue is that the allopathic medical model and three letter agencies ignore this fact and act like both types of fluoride are identical and lead to identical outcomes. This is anti-science and criminal because they do not provide informed consent from populations that receive artificial fluoridation.

  • @LearnGrowChange24
    @LearnGrowChange24 21 день назад +1

    I struggle with this so badly. I have NOT given my kids fluoride treatments and We avoid flouride in our water. But my kids have teeth issues! And so now I alternate flouride toothpaste and treatments at the dentist. But I cringe every time. Anyone else?

    • @ronaldcoley9982
      @ronaldcoley9982 21 день назад +2

      Tough situation. I had my kids brush with fluoride toothpaste because they refuse to stop eating so much candy! I make sure the water they drink doesn’t have fluoride so I hope that’s enough.

  • @krisissupercool1
    @krisissupercool1 16 дней назад +3

    If you're reading this, you might want to call your conspiracy theory friend, and apologize to them.

  • @VidadeCachorro-hu3kr
    @VidadeCachorro-hu3kr 22 дня назад +4

    What exactly is the conclusion here? Sorry I didn't really get it

    • @cazzawazzadingdong5139
      @cazzawazzadingdong5139 20 дней назад

      Basically they are saying that Fluoride in drinking water is quite concerning. At this stage we can say with reasonable certainty that it is a neurotoxin (brain toxin).
      Pregnant women and children may be at particular risk.
      Result showed "extensive ,consistent and robust" (in other words well tested to be accurate data) between a Lower I.Q/neurodevelopmental issues (brain development issues) and the increased fluoride ingested.
      My personal route of action would be to ..
      a) Check your shire/county etc to find out if your state/town/city deposits fluoride in the water. Some places don't, but many do.
      b) If your area adds fluoride (and you are in the position to do so) look at getting a particular water filter that removes fluoride from your drinking water. Myself personally, I have a reverse osmosis system, but there are a number of others that can be effective.
      c) E-mail your local shire/ government and link them to this video about the potential dangers (recognised by the National Toxins Program) of ingesting fluoride in drinking water and request they look into the matter.
      It's too early to tell form this Data analysis whether toothpaste is of major concern. Hopefully over the coming years they will conduct some testing into this also. Absorption (through skin/gums) would likely be of less concern than eating/drinking it. However, we simply don't know yet.
      The major problem highlighted here is drinking tap water with added fluoride is of some concern. A filter would be the best approach for now in my opinion.
      I personally will continue to use flouride toothpaste. However, that is a personal choice that each of us must weigh up.

    • @cazzawazzadingdong5139
      @cazzawazzadingdong5139 20 дней назад +1

      Basically they are saying that Fluoride in drinking water is quite concerning. At this stage we can say with reasonable certainty that it is a neurotoxin (brain toxin).
      Pregnant women and children may be at particular risk.

      Result showed "extensive ,consistent and robust" (in other words well tested to be accurate data) between a Lower I.Q/neurodevelopmental issues (brain development issues) and the increased fluoride ingested.
      My personal route of action would be to ..
      a) Check your shire/county etc to find out if your state/town/city deposits fluoride in the water. Some places don't, but many do.
      b) If your area adds fluoride (and you are in the position to do so) look at getting a particular water filter that removes fluoride from your drinking water. Myself personally, I have a reverse osmosis system, but there are a number of others that can be effective.
      c) E-mail your local shire/ government and link them to this video about the potential dangers (recognised by the National Toxins Program) of ingesting fluoride in drinking water and request they look into the matter.
      It's too early to tell form this Data analysis whether toothpaste is of major concern. Hopefully over the coming years they will conduct some testing into this also. Absorption (through skin/gums) would likely be of less concern than eating/drinking it. However, we simply don't know yet.
      The major problem highlighted here is drinking tap water with added fluoride is of some concern. A filter would be the best approach for now in my opinion.
      I personally will continue to use flouride toothpaste. However, that is a personal choice that each of us must weigh up.
      I've added this twice because many times my comments don't upload😅

    • @VidadeCachorro-hu3kr
      @VidadeCachorro-hu3kr 20 дней назад

      @@cazzawazzadingdong5139 thanks a bunch! I have a well so no fluoride for me but its important info to know.

  • @TheDudes115
    @TheDudes115 21 день назад +2

    This is common sense, nature, evolution and adaptation are all that's good for us and that happens naturally over time and shortcut from a lab or someone's waste is always going to be toxic
    Flouride is a waste product from metal

    • @leigh5863
      @leigh5863 9 дней назад

      You also saying this while consuming toxic substances on a daily basis, crazy contradiction.

  • @MrWiseinheart
    @MrWiseinheart 5 дней назад

    Can you imagine putting headache medicine in public water because some people might have headaches, everybody has to drink that medicine just because a few people might have headaches? Basically fluoride in public water...

  • @dpg54you
    @dpg54you 22 дня назад +2

    hmm
    Strange
    There is not one word about how water fluoridation reduces nitric oxide?
    It seems that for the last 70 years, much has been done to inhibit nitric oxide production, and this is just another way that goes unaddressed.

  • @Joefest99
    @Joefest99 21 день назад

    THANKS Edward Bernayes! 🙄

  • @dolce9876
    @dolce9876 22 дня назад +1

    Thanks

  • @NotOnlyCarrots
    @NotOnlyCarrots 22 дня назад

    Does this same risk apply to brushing with fluoridated toothpaste too, since you spit out the paste? Shocking discovery!

  • @AparnaJain1
    @AparnaJain1 22 дня назад +1

    What about nano hydroxyapatite? Non toxic and remineralizes

  • @TSLApilot
    @TSLApilot 18 дней назад

    1:38 "Everyone who confuses correlation with causation eventually ends up dead."

  • @wos9804
    @wos9804 22 дня назад +3

    Then should we not drink tea either?

    • @kiljupullo
      @kiljupullo 22 дня назад +2

      I think tea is not sodium fluoride, but other fluoride compound like fluoroacetate (and the related (2R,3R)-fluorocitrate) and theabrownins and phenols reduce fluoride intake.

  • @sugarplumk2381
    @sugarplumk2381 22 дня назад +4

    Concerning. It’s in the water in Australia and NZ. When we were very young and living in the country, the dentist gave us fluoride tablets to take, for the health of our teeth. I’ve questioned my dentist about the safety of fluoride treatments which dentists give regularly after teeth cleaning. He assured me it’s such a small amount a beneficial to the teeth. 🤷‍♀️

    • @imthinkingthoughts
      @imthinkingthoughts 22 дня назад +3

      dont eat or drink for 30mins afterwards. dont swallow your saliva. you have to remember that the benefits of less dental work and infections likely outweighs the potential risk of fluoride. Dentist is typically twice a year, hardly often.

    • @imthinkingthoughts
      @imthinkingthoughts 22 дня назад +4

      flouride in water is another question. I would love to filter it out but can't afford it an live in a rental

    • @tamcon72
      @tamcon72 22 дня назад +3

      @@imthinkingthoughts Are you in the States? I use both a Berkey travel filter and a Zero Water filter, on after another, because I live in a very old building with deteriorating pipes. In concert, they filter out chlorine and fluoride. I used to get drinking and cooking water from a reverse osmosis-filtered water store, but moved far away from it a few years ago, and buying these two filters was my attempt tp replicate the RO water.

    • @NiaLaLa_V
      @NiaLaLa_V 22 дня назад

      @@tamcon72 I just learned (the hard way) that RO is the only one that removes bacteria. My dog was getting e.coli repeatedly and we couldn't figure out how until we checked our water. Now we boil it before filtering it.

    • @tamcon72
      @tamcon72 22 дня назад

      @@NiaLaLa_V Wow! Hope you all are OK now.

  • @WeCelebrateEatingPlants
    @WeCelebrateEatingPlants 22 дня назад +9

    That was four years ago so they all have expensive water filters now but what about the rest of the population?

    • @cazzawazzadingdong5139
      @cazzawazzadingdong5139 20 дней назад +1

      I agree, it should have been public knowledge as soon as the report was realesed. Fluoride added to drinking water as far as I know is a waste product, sorry a "byproduct", of phosphate rock processed for other purposes. Finding another use for this "byproduct" instead of having to environmentally dispose of it would no doubt of kept industry overheads down and profit up.
      Write an industry funded, highly flawed study on how processed meats are fine and high fat is now good and it's front page news and broadcast on every T.V channel for a week. When the WHO anounces bacon etc as a class one carcinogen....

  • @Selbstzensur
    @Selbstzensur 17 дней назад +1

    Use Sodium Bicarbonate in a glass of water to brush your teeth instead of fluorid.

  • @williamcooper8559
    @williamcooper8559 22 дня назад +2

    Even if they stop adding Fluoride to drinking water, how many years will it take to be completely flushed out of the network?

  • @Michael_Dominic
    @Michael_Dominic 22 дня назад

    3:30 I am shocked it took this long.

  • @Bullshirt1983
    @Bullshirt1983 8 дней назад +1

    In the end it comes down to forced medication. If you want to dump fluoride in your water I say more power to you.. but I shouldn't have to be subject to it if I don't want it.

  • @ItsRealDoe
    @ItsRealDoe 5 дней назад

    Over-Under on how many years it will be before they're not poisoning the water supply? 10years?

  • @jeannine7002
    @jeannine7002 21 день назад

    Pray for our leaders who are making big decisions that affects the rest of us! ❤

  • @junkerzn7312
    @junkerzn7312 22 дня назад +4

    Not sure you can statistically distinguish such a tiny drop in IQ out of the noise with the massive number of codependent variables in these studies. Also.... 12 glasses of water a day? I know exactly zero people who drank that much water a day while pregnant or anything else. Liquids, sure. Tap water? Not so much. You also spent a lot of time propping-up the studies by singing the accolades of the journals and non-scientific statements made by individuals. Did you read any of the actual studies?

  • @contact2001
    @contact2001 22 дня назад +26

    Im glad that I listened to my gut feeling and avoid it now for many years…..

    • @damianalejandro6959
      @damianalejandro6959 22 дня назад

      Your "gut"feeling?

    • @contact2001
      @contact2001 21 день назад +2

      @@damianalejandro6959 Yes, there is a big controversy running for many years. As I informed myself (Researched) the topic I believed the more the opposition to fluoridation, which was kind of a gut feeling. As still more researchers is needed, I’ll keep avoiding it.

  • @johnburrows5119
    @johnburrows5119 12 дней назад

    My dad drank fluoridated water for decades and his teeth rotted away. WHY IS THAT?

  • @unimaginaryemily
    @unimaginaryemily 11 дней назад

    If the water is fluoridated for the sake of dental health, why is it also in the water we drink and bathe with? And I hope my understanding of how fluoride can interact with our iodine receptors is simply flawed. It's kind of depressing to think about.

  • @misterx3188
    @misterx3188 22 дня назад +1

    Does this mean anything for drinking green tea during pregnancy?

  • @Animal_lives_matter
    @Animal_lives_matter 22 дня назад +2

    I recently found out that tea has about 3 times more fluoride than fluoridated tap water, so even though I use a filter which removes the fluoride from my tap water which I use to make tea, I'm still getting plenty of fluoride :(

    • @kiljupullo
      @kiljupullo 22 дня назад +1

      Tea does not contain sodium fluoride, but fluoroacetate (and the related (2R,3R)-fluorocitrate)

    • @Animal_lives_matter
      @Animal_lives_matter 22 дня назад

      @@kiljupullo according to gemini just now fluoroacetate and fluorocitrate are highly toxic and are not in tea

  • @mrwojna
    @mrwojna 2 дня назад

    I haven’t watched this dude in years. Can anyone tell me where he came down on the mandatory intervention of the last few years? Was he an advocate or did he remain intellectually honest?

  • @lonzo61
    @lonzo61 22 дня назад +1

    Oh man, for the TRUTH, fellow Americans, you must watch the movie Dr. Strangelove.

  • @austindobbins8957
    @austindobbins8957 22 дня назад +1

    now if we just had the option to buy food from non fluoridated water certified farms

  • @Hyperion1040
    @Hyperion1040 22 дня назад

    In that case is it safe to suplement fuoride? 😮

    • @LesliePajuelo
      @LesliePajuelo 22 дня назад +3

      not to eat. But yes on your teeth or as a rinse which you don't swallow.

  • @tunneloflight
    @tunneloflight 22 дня назад

    NAS needs to learn to overcome their own biases and not let those biases get in the way of a dispassionate analysis of the data.

  • @wildgeese5707
    @wildgeese5707 22 дня назад +4

    There’s just no reason to add anything to the water in hopes it’ll solve a problem that may never start when a dentist can easily prescribe an otc mouth rinse to do the same thing for those who need it. Without ingesting large quantities of it. As a mother, I’m appalled for my kids and myself. I have an expensive gravity fed water filtration system and I refuse to drink from the tap anymore. 🤷🏻‍♀️

  • @roblovegreen
    @roblovegreen 14 дней назад

    The short documentary called fluoride gate

  • @hereBDBD
    @hereBDBD 22 дня назад

    what about toothpaste?

  • @NickDrinksWater
    @NickDrinksWater 14 дней назад

    They need to find a more practical way to dispose of industrial waste

  • @user-er4hx1zb6k
    @user-er4hx1zb6k 22 дня назад

    I don't think the fluoride is that big of a concern if you do the other things right, i.e. the sleep, healthy vegetarian eating, move, rest and low stress. It could only harm you more the worse your overall condition is (personal opinion).

  • @shubus
    @shubus 22 дня назад +2

    Seems a lot of back pedaling here on this subject.

  • @ceeemm1901
    @ceeemm1901 22 дня назад +4

    Just buy a toothbrush.....

  • @Mark-cy1ys
    @Mark-cy1ys 22 дня назад +1

    Humanity is sick because of dumb decisions by dumb people. and people not wanting to Change. May God Help us.

  • @cakeabee3804
    @cakeabee3804 22 дня назад +1

    So every generation loses 5IQ points. Imagine what humankind would look like in a couple hundred years. 😅😢

  • @EatDrinkBeMerry
    @EatDrinkBeMerry 22 дня назад +1

    Should we use it in toothpaste?

    • @kieranstyx3633
      @kieranstyx3633 22 дня назад +7

      Yes. Topical on teeth is good. Just don't swallow it.

    • @gme10955
      @gme10955 22 дня назад

      No, it's poison. It sill gets absorbed into your blood stream.

  • @amandas1464
    @amandas1464 22 дня назад +7

    In my late 40’s here. Anyone else have a childhood dentist that prescribed chewable fluoride pills?

    • @purityandplants
      @purityandplants 22 дня назад +1

      We did flouride rinses every morning in my 1st grade class! A little cup of it on each child’s desk. Edit: I’m 48.

    • @anderslvolljohansen1556
      @anderslvolljohansen1556 22 дня назад +1

      I remember such smiley face tablets from my childhood.
      A developing fetus is extra sensitive to lead and mercury and now fluoride can be added to the list.
      Hopefully, we're much less sensitive after we're born.

  • @FelisStella-HappyStar
    @FelisStella-HappyStar 22 дня назад +1

    Ok, but now what?

  • @KJ-tq3sm
    @KJ-tq3sm 22 дня назад +1

    no wonder i was a late bloomer

  • @danif1359
    @danif1359 22 дня назад

    Does water filter get rid of it?

    • @jdstep97
      @jdstep97 22 дня назад +4

      Depends on the filter. The more expensive the better.

  • @katherinemcmahon509
    @katherinemcmahon509 15 дней назад

    Dont use flouride toothpaste and i use a Berkey filter to remove flouride from my water.