James Harden is STILL The Best Scorer in The NBA
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- Опубликовано: 24 авг 2024
- James Harden is STILL The Best Scorer in The NBA according to Gilbert Arenas as he & The Gil’s Arena Crew discuss the evolution of The Beard’s game and explain how the Los Angeles Clippers guard is still the same player that won MVPs with the Houston Rockets.
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That fit gil rocking is diabolical
For his age Gil doesn’t dress like an old man much. This is definitely an old man fit 😂
😂😂😂 nasty work
Aggressively trash
Facts
James Harden is by no means the best scorer in the league lol
Absolutely not lol
Like are they drunk or what 😂
Maybe the best shooter on his own, by that i mean fully creates most of his shots by himself alone with ball, not depending on others playmaking
Nigga literally playing the scoring leader in the playoffs…
Question. Do you think he was EVER the best scorer in the league? Your answer is going to say a lot.
Gil with every take shows that the olympic team made the RIGHT choice leaving his special ed ass out 😂
You’re so right 🏃🏿🏃🏿🤣🤣🤣
What ya'll saying now 🤔 Boy was cooking Luka
💯 they did the right thing him and james got alot in common. They wont go ALL OUT to get a win in the biggest moments. Money over championship mentality
@@PoeticJustice7777what you saying now.. boy got his ass sent to cancun first round.
Harden hasn't been able to get to the rim the same since his injury in Brooklyn. Harden lacks the first step he used to have in his prime.
What's that have to do with his ability to score points? Which he can obviously still do.
he strong asf tho
@@El_Fonzoit says best scorer in the game which he never was...his inability to get by people affects his scoring...no one ever said he couldn't score points
No op is right he isn't as explosive but definitely a scoring threat whenever he wants
@@El_Fonzoeither you a idiot or just slow. Quick first step had a huge impact on his ability to score. He still has the ability to cross over but he’s not blowing by defenders as he once did. 2018 harden would be a mvp candidate today.
Harden's teammates don't show up big in elimination games either and that doesn't get talked about at all
Usually star players have their teammates hit big shots for them or have a monster game to carry them when they're having an off night.
Even though Harden has played with a lot of stars, no one has ever picked him up when he's struggling in a playoff game
Right. Game 6 and 7 the teams say Stop Harden at all costs and let someone else beat us
Please do your homework before a comment like this he hasn’t shown up when it counted most throughout the entire 2010s semis vs spurs 11 turnovers missed every 3pt attempt or losing in 6 to a rookie dame or to the warriors when KD was hurt in 6 he was my favorite growing up I had front row seats to his failures he shrinks not in big games but the BIGGEST games he’ll show up first round like always but when the going gets tougher and it’s an elimination game you cannot count on him .
@lousosa1447 , Everything you just wrote is a non sequitur.
And what purpose does it serve for you to come on a post that has the exact opposite perspective/opinion than yours and try to initiate some pointless back and forths, as if anything you say will alter my opinion/perspective. I'm from Houston and a Rockets fan, who's fully aware of Harden in the playoffs
Why not just create your own post and with your own perspective and talking points and attract others who share the same. Or just hit the 👎🏿 button on my comment to show you disagree/dislike and move on because trying to challenge what I said is a waste of your time.
2021 kd
@1lilknife441 , When Harden was hurt, trying to play on one leg and Kyrie was out hurt, man stop..
Manipulating calls was his best skill he always had weaknesses in his game
I swear Gil has the most outrageous takes on the internet in regard to any topic
i’m the biggest harden stan ever, but i can’t agree with gil on this
Can’t be true cause I am
Same. He aint STILL the best scorer but I do think in his prime, he was the best offensive weapon ever. Facilitates better than 99% scores better than 99.9%. best offensive weapon ever in his prime. But that was 2 hamstrings ago
@@ericreid8111yeah but his style is predicated based on how they're calling the game. He literally plays to get calls. So whenever you get to the playoffs, that style will completely sabotage you. You got to play to score not to draw files. And that's his fault. As a player. He doesn't play the score
@@MindfulAttraction2.0 true. He needed to attack more in the playoffs. If he did, they probably win that game 7 vs GSW
nah that’s me
Luka could drop 64 in the playoffs and Gil won't care
He gotta be racist or Xenophobic atp
Luka doesn’t pass
@@Grind2Excellence You clearly don't watch the games...if guys could hit open shots Luka would easily average 14 assists at a minimum
@@dwanadoniagreed. That guy doesn't watch the games. The only knock anyone can ever say about Luka is that he's not black. His defense has been great in the playoffs.
I love that Sheryl Swoopes is on the show talking basketball. Arenas for MVP
i love it too... i love it when people who we think are supposed to be awesome at something show up and reveal exactly how clueless they are, just like the rest of us....
Facts. Your comment should be highlighted. Swoops is like your favorite aunt. A Great part of the Arena
Gil thought the clips were going to sweep the Mavs is crazy😭😭😭
Everybody can say what they want but just know everybody in the league play exactly like James Harden! Everyone got the handles & step back jumpshots from him
Now Dallas up 2-1 😂
Now it's 2-2 🤫
@@tarikbleak exactly 😂😂
what’s the series now?! 😂
Finna be 3-2 clippers tonight
Lol Gil lost that 10 quick!
The analysis on this show is something else 😂
Gil is a really convincing speaker. He has about half as much basketball knowledge as he had talent
I still remember when Gil said to trade AD for trae young lmao
hes a moron and brought guns to a locker room, while getting paid millions, dude has problems bruhXD
@@user-gc1wj8tt2p still valid lol
😂 that mf be drunk or high on the show he swear he be putting out gems yo
his knowledge is beyond yours or mine. but he knows what gets engagement
Clippers hat with a bucks jersey is crazy
😂
Repping both my favorite teams 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻 Kenosha Wisconsin Raised Bucks fan. Bandwagon Clippers fan since 2020.
If Harden could still average 36 points per game like he once could, he would lol. There's no "if he really wanted to" involved in this at all.
How would he average 36 playing with kd and kyrie and then embiid lol all I know is his last year with the rockets before he got traded he was averaging 30 something and he only started to average less when he got traded
@@orvilleblake8798I think everyone forgets too how he was playing with Kyrie and Kd when he was healthy right after the trade. He was damn near still scoring 30 but averaging more assists, right until he got hurt then everything went downhill
@@reynaldosaez-hk4ro “before he got hurt” harden was an Ironman in Houston but he’s not that anymore
@@camerondrain8166 bro 23-24 tbh isn’t a major drop off from 30. He’s required to do different things nowadays. Yes it’s tough to see cause it looks like he’s holding back but I wouldn’t say he isn’t capable of still being a 30+ppg scorer
@camerondrain8166 They play more games now, adding training camp it's 150+ plus games a year. That's why young players are getting injuries that 10-12 year vets used to only get.
Harden deserve more respect
You can tell this show is recorded at Gil’s house by his wardrobe he just threw on something blue from the closet 😂
13 points and 9 points are the last two point totals for him in last years playoff series against Boston.
Monday gil will be wearing a ant man jersey.. from lakers to clippers, suns.. whos next lol
If he averaged 30 PG and Kawhi would be turned into spot up shooters so he has to sacrifice for them.
The problem with Hardin is that he doesn't want to do anything without dribbling 10 times. There were so many times during the rockets days when he will get an open shot and wait for the defender to come to him and dribble and then shoot. And so just like defenders become reputational defenders even though they're not good defenders anymore, I think. Hardin has gotten that reputation because of just how much he spammed a selfish heliocentric type of basketball
This is the most casual take ever lol
@Valorant_Dem0n97 , Exactly, Harden literally played and ran the offense EXACTLY the way his GM and coach wanted him to in Houston
Scoring matters more. PERIOD.
Gil "Clips in 4"
We can now understand while Gil was never a winner in the NBA. His thought process is f@cked…smh
This is an INSANE take
Most realistic Arenas take
Kenyon said I could’ve averaged 25 a night if I wanted too lmaoo
He probably could have.
@@caladanrude6395facts Kenyon had a really skilled post game and a nice mid range jumper Kenyon was elite in the early 2000's
@@tbtoosmoovenot “averaging 25 a night” elite. Maybe if he never ever got hurt was the number 1 option for 4-5 years
@@caladanrude6395 hell no.
@@caladanrude6395im sure he could have👍🏽
Gil owe somebody some money
Finally someone opened their eyes, I hate to say it but harden been the best scorer on every team he’s been on besides MAYBE KD.
Undisputed with Gil Bayless
Accurate asf 😂😂😂
Mavs in 5
Nah
@@Real843BabySkii ok in 6 is cool too.
The Clippers are only gonna go as far as Harden takes them. He's their best offensive minded player. He's the best scorer and playmaker on the team
This whole podcast got some pole smokers. They still think KD and PG got the deepest bags when they don’t. Harden ain’t been the best scorer since 2018.
Why do I still watch this channel. It ain’t about scoring. Bro was 24 points and a single rebound in the 3rd last night
He need to push the pace n stop dribbling for 20 seconds he’s literally the only person benefiting from his play-style I’m tired of him giving niggas 1 second shots n idk why i watch this shit too every once in a blue I pop up they say dumb shit
I think this game out before game 2 and 3
Yeah, this was from Mondays episode
Great point B Jennings 👏🏾
This take aged very well after game 4
Jennings hat is tough
But all jokes aside James harden is still 1st ballot Hall of famer when he retires 👍
Hell nah he doesn’t deserve hall of fame. For what? Ball hogging putting up empty stats? Losing every year? Choking in playoffs 🤡
@@youngnas15ur a clown
Luka and Harden plays almost identical but he always gives props to James then under appreciates Doncic
“Best scorer in the league” bout to be out the first round 😂
Haha. Definitely NOT the same AT ALL.
Stats don't lie. 😂
not the same but I think you missed the point!
@@TheKennyGMwell what was the point?
@@van2.060 That he can still avg what Luka is avg in the reg season but he's not cause the teams he has been playing don't requiere that... So ofc the stats wont show that he can do it still
gil matched his outfit with two different nba teams🤣
Harden average 20 &10 for like 5 years prior to this one imagine if he said f passing to yall he would've STILL been that 30 plus guy
Harden isnt even a top 15 scorer today. Luka, Shai, Ant, Tatum, Brunson, Steph, Fox, Maxey, Embiid, Giannis, Joker, KD, LeBron, Kyrie, Murray are better scorers and it's not close.
Bad take
His role for the team ??? I thought James harden was the “ system “
Where is Eddie Jordan? He was a formidable coach.
Hmmm “you don’t like how he plays basketball because you can’t stop him” sounds a lot like Embiid 😂😂😂
Gil just be saying anything, he definitely is really skilled at manipulating the algorithm I have to give him that though.
Love Kenyon, but he got a lil Boomhower in him. Hahaha!
Wearing a bucks jersey with a clippers hat is nasty work gil
Gil we understand that James can score but why he doesn't in game 6 and 7 of the playoffs!! So the keys he had it didn't work so that's why he has a lesser role!! Remember Kobe said James style of play isn't going to work!!
It's just stunning that it looks so easy all the time... and so difficult in crunch time
Gil stating facts. The Sky Hook looked too easy and unguardable which is why Kareem Abdul will never be truly considered a goat goat but he is considered a goat
If you feel me
Harden the best player on the clippers and is still the best scorer he needs to be scoring more if you ask me
Good playmakers are far more rare in today's league. Harden should still set plays up, and PG13 score more, if PG still got it. Harden can score more, but if he tries to go for 40, the Clippers won't win.
@@penkima4923 I agree somewhat but harden can score 40 plus they will definitely win
Luka is a solid defender. Casuals
Ulu the casual that gone keep watching 😂
Doesnt matter he's on the way to top 10 best players of all-time along with Jokic.
@@moneyball647 Jokic got a better case being slotted in that 10 spot over Luka. Stop it.
@@moneyball647no he's not I'm tired of it Jokic maybe but Luka gotta win something and stop being such a trash defender. He's on pace to being a Charles Barkley, Melo, Harden, or AI type of guys who had all the skill in the world but couldn't get it done.
@@tbtoosmoove I said he's on his way. He's checking every milestone only top 10 players have. MJ never won til he was 27-28. Most hit their stride around 27-28. But in his first 5 years, Luka is at MJ's pace. Now he just needs to win titles. Because without titles he'd be top 15-18. Jokic is already there by the end of his career if he wins at least 2 and continues his dominance for. a few more years.
I need Harden to call his own number.
HARDEN Was never the best scorer in the league...TRAVELLING STEP BACKS and FOUL BATTING doesnt mean he is a good scorer..just means REFS put him on the FT when he throws himself against defenders.
If you ask a guy for 20 and 10, and decides he gon give you 20 and 10, but only 20 and 10 even when they need you to do more to win...then he ain't that guy
🔥🔥🔥🔥great take
That gain up so high, sounds like any minute Jimi Hendrix is going to rip a power bomb and RIP my speakers.
He looked like it in the 4th of this game. Dude was blowing by guys with them knowing he's coming
Last month , Gil was Tripping on them EURO Boys , Now he Riding The White Horse 😭#sniff #sniff
A clippers hate with a giannis jersey is crazy
Harden and PG need to be aggressive no matter if Kawhi is healthy or not
So nobody gonna talk about that Sheryl laugh 😂😂😂😂
Top 5 in most 50 point games in NBA history and the closest current player is behind by like 7 🤷🏾♂️
3:19 That comment didn’t age well at all. BJ looking like a prophet but these are the moments that people refuse to capitalize when gil is wrong. He is right about a lot of things but seeing how Dallas got back into the game let you know that it was going to be a series because you could tell the figured out something. Last nights game had some bad officiating but you still have to make plays and Kahwi is hurting them when he is out there and can’t score and he doesn’t defend they way he used to in San Antonio. His body language has been terrible too. Either he needs more time because he isn’t healthy or he’s uninterested in whatever scheme they have. It’s CRAZY to say that they are BETTER without him BUT they need to adjust his role to fit the series however he doesn’t have any easy wins offensively.
there are many scorers, they're not disliked or thought of badly. Harden created this. and with how he forced himself off 3 teams. u are bound to come off looking selfish
Yup nobody gonna say it but harden changed the game for sure!
I’m a die hard James harden fan but I can’t agree to this, my ngl ain’t the same player he was, he used to make basketball look so easy😢
The easiest 10 Gil has ever lost
K-Mart hit the nail in the coffin!!!! They have to move faster in order for them to be better and all get touches
James still got it💪🏾
The way harden plays never looks too easy he takes 100 dribbles
Harden is not even top 20 best scorers in NBA today cut it out
Kenyon has a great point. Speeding the offense up for the clippers would be really beneficial for them. Just play- don’t think. Put Russ at the starting point and they would have at least 7/8 more possessions a game.
Can we get a live of yall watching the game
Gilberts comments on this series aren't aging well. Especially after the clippers look to be falling apart after losing at home to a maverick squad that out toughed them. Afterwards getting handled the first game in Dallas. Dallas in 6. Book it.
This video basically shows why teams need a head coach. The players are selfish and self centered for the most part. Just listen to what Gil just said. He sounds like a child.
SWOoPs! She was amazing. Wnba had some amazing moments back then.
So I guess game seven against the Clippers never happened? Lol
The irony of it is James Harden torched the team. He plays for now and the game seven but people who are casual fans act like they don't remember it even happened. Lmaooooooo
Just tell us where did you get yours? 🍀🍃🍄
Gilbert doesn’t watch the games while Jennings does. It’s 2-1, it’s going 6 at least
Brandon is RIGHT! Harden keeps CRAPPING THE BED! It will look good in the Regular Season, it will even look good in the 1st Round, but after he gets out of the 1st Round, he has the WORST Floor - Ceiling ratio I've ever seen out of a STAR / SUPERSTAR!
He will have an 11pt night... 2-14 from 3pt line... 7 turnovers... You just can't overcome that because he has the ball in his hands too much! I've seen this HORROR STORY TOO MANY TIMES in Houston.
Harden's teammates don't show up big in elimination games either and that doesn't get talked about at all
Usually star players have their teammates hit big shots for them or have a monster game to carry them when they're having an off night. Even though Harden has played with a lot of stars, no one has ever picked him up when he's struggling in a game
He's absolutely not the same player. People also just dont like the playstyle he had back when he was mvp. Cuz it was just travel stepback 3s and foul baiting. That's why his playstyle wouldnt work in the playoffs, bcuz refs let things go more easily (similar reason why Embiid also drops efficiency during playoffs) on top of getting injured which slowed him down a little too.
Can he still hang with the best of em sometimes like that game ya sure. Is he gonna b able to do thay consistently every time... no. But he also doesnt really need to on the Clippers. He's like what the 3rd option? That's probably the best for him bcuz he doesnt need to carry or consistently perform like he did for them to win games. You have Kawhi, PG, then Harden, and also Westbrook coming off the bench who can also give u solid numbers.
James harden is by no means the best scorer in the league
“Man drop Melo”😂😂😂😂
a few years back Arenas used to have really good takes on the NBA when he had less "air time". Now that he talks more it seems he needs to fill that new time with anything.... even bad takes
Considering how low of a volume he's shooting, if he takes the same amount as Luka, he'll easily average 30. Basic math
Harden isn’t the same as before his hamstring injury as far as explosiveness. His handles and shooting allows him to still get by his defender but he isn’t able to finish like he used to or get the same separation he used to get because of the lack of explosiveness. He could still give you 20 a night though if he shot more and wasn’t the 3rd option.
Harden can’t score like he used to.
He has flashes.
He said the same thing last year after getting 40 in game 5.
Then disappeared in Game 6 and 7.
If y’all don’t think harden is a top scorer , y’all buggin .
Not the Giannis Jersey wat Gil on 😂😂😂
You can score with the best of them and that's it 💯💯
What the hell does Gilbert Arena have on a clippers head with a Milwaukee shirt jersey?
Gil does crack now I see
He is,he’s been sacrificing his game for the past few years
How about late in series when he's needed and doesn't or can't do it.
@@TTJJCCnobody made a comment about that, I know he’s had bad games down the stretch I agree, but people think he can’t score at all anymore
I can name at least 5 better scorers off the top of my head 😊
He's 17th in scoring in these playoffs. He does have to both score and make plays. But so does many other big scorers.
Kawhi should control the second unit since injured and the others are playing faster