Honest question, if that 73-9 teams add a Paul George instead of KD, do they still have a good chance? If yes, then KD needed warriors more than they needed him. He’s never been a title favorite since then
Steph won before KD and after KD. Without KD, Steph still has 2 chips, still the greatest shooter of all time, still gets 1 FMVP, still has the only unanimous MVP in history, still has the best regular season record in history...Basically instead of a top 10 resume, steph has a top 15 resume without KD. Without Steph, KD...is James Harden...Allen Iverson...an all time great scorer with nothing resume wise to put him in any important conversations. Without Steph, KD has a worse all time resume than Kyrie Irving. That super team did WAY more for KDs legacy than it did for Steph.
If anything Steph saved KD legacy. If Steph says “nah i don’t want KD “ he wouldn’t have a championship. He’s been getting his ass kicked since he left golden state. Steph has been doing just fine lol
Thats the craziest part. Kd is the greatest player to nvr win a ring if he nvr joins GS. Also I hate the narrative cavs automatically win if kd doesn't go bc GS replace kd with any other top 10 sf at the time and I see them still winning those bck2bck championships
Rashad trying to pretend like warriors calling KD is not a problem when he know DAMN well if it was LeBron that called KD in 2016 to come to the Cavs, he'd be the main one blaming Bron for that weak ish
But I clearly hear him talking about the KD in the beginning. I was expected to have to be quiet until something about fighting happened.But that's not what happened.So what are you talking about
@CousinPreemo the joke on me 🤣🤣🤣that wasn't the first and only time he said something so he was in the convo 🤷🏿♂️but you are the joke because that's shit was ass
@@emekaamadi9827 But they will be blamed for being 73/9, being up 3/1, losing and then showing that they were not strong enough to win without KD. They should have been strong enough to eat Bron without KD. Either GSW wasn’t strong enough or Bron was just too strong.
The point is the players on the warriors should be looked at as weak for running and getting help from the 2nd best player at the time. The Cavs came back with the same team. He means they could have came back that year and beat the Cavs. It wasn't a guarantee the Cavs would win. But shit who wouldn't have gotten KD if they could at that time. And don't forget he was the best player on those 2 championships.
@@bigep79 … that’s why I wrote they need to let MCcants answer first so he can’t just disagree to disagree!!! I really think he would change his mind and rebuttal his own statement to disagree with Gil!!!
And he had great teams before. That team with Westbrook and Harden was tough. Even tho they were younger kd had similar experience to a guy like Ant Edwards does now but with more talent on his team. Even that 2016 team was great, setting aside the team records, those teams looked pretty fairly matched on paper.
@@marlopunk4265they didn’t all do anything, Dray called him and they went to meet with him, Steph didn’t get on no phone saying he needed KD, Dray didn’t trust Steph, Dray also said they didn’t need KD to win one minute and the next he say they needed him, you didn’t need a KD to beat a team who only won on a game winning shot
As a hooper, KD’s move is significantly worse than Bron. As bad as it looked like for Bron, the best player at that time, to leave and team up someplace else, KD leaving a championship contender for the team that just eliminated them just screams “I want it easy” much much louder. CLE was a contender solely because of Bron for years. At least he had a reason to leave unlike KD.
@@abluminberg solely because of him. Finals in 07, deep runs after but couldn’t get the job done. He clearly needed help. Meanwhile KD was in an even better position coz he had a legit running mate in Russ and a competent FO (even when they dropped the ball on Harden they remained a powerhouse in the West). They were up 3-1 vs the best team that year but just couldn’t finish the job. How do you NOT feel so bad about losing that series and NOT want to go at those mfs again?!
@@abluminberg I agree. Even when CLE was top seed, it was a 3-team race in the East or if we’re being honest, BOS vs ORL vs Bron. KD and OKC on the other hand was among the best teams in the West consistently, especially that 2016 run.
Okay that’s cool but there was other good teams that he could’ve went kd decided to go the best team in the league so it most definitely a weak part on both kd n warriors
Yall ninjas must not have a competitive bone in yall bodies… I never even wanted an unbeatable team at OPEN GYM!!! I wanna compete against every ninja that thinks they like that, win lose or draw!!! That shxt was weak af on both sides
It's not about credit. It's about respect. OKC blew a 3-1 lead just like golden state but unlike KD, Steph didn't leave his team to join the team that whooped his ass. Also Steph won before KD and after KD. WITHOUT Steph, KD has NO rings
It's normal to recruit somebody. How many times LeGm did that? KD was a free agency that time of course any other team can recruit him but the warriors had the best chance to sign him that time because warriors can bring him the ring that he wants. And guess what. When KD left he can't have a ring no more.
The issue is that KD had just came out saying that he was tired of being number 2 to Bron. KD had an opportunity to go take number 1 from Bron but choked with a 3-1 lead. Regardless if Golden State lost to Cleveland, KD the weak one because he was trying to chase being #1 and felt the only way he could do that was to join the team that he could not beat and was just up 3-1 on Bron. Golden State did what anyone would do, offer the best players available, that doesn't make them weak it makes them smart. They lost by 4 to Cleveland in game 7. They weren't beaten so bad they couldn't envision beating Cleveland the way they were constructed
@@anitadrayton6883not necessarily a weak team but like the rockets for example would’ve been a great spot it would’ve been just him and James from the fan perspective him going to golden state took away the competitiveness and balance
Who cares. Got blasted by Lebron without KD, got blasted again by Kawahi without KD. Nobody trying to hear yall dumb excuses. They beat Cleveland without KD with Love and Kyrie out. Foh!
Exactly what I came to say. There's a very good chance that the Warriors would have won those same two titles without KD. Nobody takes anything away from Shaq's from title in Miami. Nobody tries to take away from KG's title with the Celtics even though he joined Pierce's team. It doesn't mean KD isn't a great player. He is but you also have to be real
it's hilarious that the Warriors as an organization are being ridiculed for signing KD. If KD wants to sign with you, and you say no because of the media or the judgement, you're a TERRIBLE owner and GM lol
Just a testament to Steph, tbh. Everyone cried so hard saying they broke the league when the Warriors won the KD lottery. Meanwhile we've had stacked ass teams since then and no one bats an eye.
These dumb fans have used this rubbish argument for nearly a decade. It still makes ZERO sense to me. There were stacked team before and after - none of them as elite as 2016-19 Warriors. You could argue all day - KD went to Warriors because they found their final piece to be the cheat code. The league didn't like it, because it pissed every other fanbases.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mnaw even during the kd era there were sum good teams any team that kd went to would’ve instantly won 😭but golden state js had the best pg at the moment
People keep saying just curry like he didn’t have draymond klay and iggy as well that team was loaded and still decided to get kd after the finals lost
@@theefamgodthey shouldn’t even have beat okc had the refs suspended dray that series… dude kicked like 3 different people on the 🥜 with no consequence…fact of the matter is that warriors weren’t ever beating a healthy cavs without kd.. they beat a solo bron cavs team and lost to cavs in 2016. That’s why they called kd crying begging for him to go to them
Reminder: The same year KD got swept, is the same year Curry won a fmvp 🤥🤥🤥🤥 Against the same team that swept KD 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶 Edit: Yes, be mad at me cause you can't carry a Unanimous MVP that has never been swept in the playoffs 🤥🤥✌️✌️ Cry to ya moms
@@darrieuslewis1920 It’s still soft. Do people understand how many championships LeBron with have if the best players available went to play with him? They actively did not support him and actively teamed up to beat him. That is lame and should be talked about. Yes KD could go anywhere but let’s discuss why he choose them to begin with.
The Cavs could have beaten the warriors the next year if they didn’t get KD. KD made up for any mistakes Steph and klay made which also gave them the ability to be more aggressive, it’s like common sense.
@@ksisniipez 😂😂😂 he literally had 2 mvps and beat kd the year before he came. Kd coming eliminated steph from 1st team all nba and mvp votes it literally hurt stephs legacy and elevated kd to champion how do u even say that
Let's be real? Who saved who? KD was recognized as the 2nd best player in the league. KD went to GSW to SAVE HIS LEGACY!!!! That was clear in his decision.
It was a perfect storm for Dubs to get KD. Money freed up with Barnes’ free agency, KD was a free agent, and KD was the perfect gap filler. If Barnes had not been a free agent or if the Dubs had been scrubs, KD would have gone elsewhere. It was the perfect short-term marriage. Unfortunately, the org mismanaged the culture and KD left, but let’s not lose site of how it came to be.
If the Warriors had upgraded to someone between Harrison Barnes and KD instead of KD, Curry could still have 4 rings. If it wasn’t for two potential career ending injuries, the KD Warriors would have three. Curry‘s a foundational team piece that you can build around. KD is the ultimate final piece for any team, but he can’t win you a championship without a solid enough foundation.
This is true for every player though, Jordan needed rebounds and post defense because he's a guard. LeBron needs spacing to compliment his driving and passing. Kareem needed a PG to lead the offense and pass well. Unless I'm missing your point, a superstar needs their supporting cast otherwise you end up with 04 Pistons beating the Lakers
@@idk5916 I think Steph elevates his teammate more, like Lebron does for his teams. KD is such a talent, he might not understand how to make his teammates better but nothing is stopping KD from getting 30+ at will. Also, the Warriors as a team was in a better position to keep winning the Thunder as a team at the time, so the comment about Steph still have 4 rings is mostly about team/org. But I also think KD earned three rings but only got two. But I think KD made the right choice to go to GSW. As a top 10 or top 15 player of all time, you don’t pass up the chance to play with another one. Watching Steph, KD and Lebron share the court during the Olympics was something special
No he’s not. That lebron your talking about. Lebron won with three different teams. Steph does not work with out both Draymond and Klay. Where did those kind of players exist most of stephs carreer? On what other teams?
@@iamrysheemI don’t think Steph needs Draymond and Klay. They compliment him perfectly, but he doesn’t need them. He could do what he does with any team that runs that system for him. As long as he’s allowed to move without the ball freely, Steph will always be effective and his teammates will have far less pressure on them, making them better by default.
@@Al-Sahem-Al-Ghul thats easy to say now that everybody in the nba has basically the same kind of players. When he won most of his chips they didnt and to say he doesnt need them is ridiculous. He has literally never won without them. They had to wait for klay to get healthy before they won another one. And when Klay declined their hopes of repeating basically disappeared. Without those type of players Steph is not as effective. They ran through alot of players after durant to prove that. He’ll score thirty a game but not make the playoffs. How many times has durant not made the playoffs?
So and that team could have failed as well. We have seen too many examples of super teams forming the first year and fail. Bucks and Dame, Houston and CP3, Brooklyn and KD, LeBron with D Wade, Derrick rose, Kevin Love in Cleveland and etc.
@@lonniedixon3433 that’s why I made the comment he brought up kyrie and love getting hurt but won’t bring up draymond getting suspended or ejected the whole series changed after that and draymond was playing the best basketball offensively of his career
@@SCOOBYGD draymond got kicked out of game 5 and suspended game 6 they would of won both of them games and would of never been a topic but it is lol just like kyrie and Kevin love getting injured was
I believe two things can be true. Yes, the warriors called KD, and KD said yes. I think both party's legacies were saved. I'm glad KD went there. It was great to watch. I won't bash KD because LeBron James did the same thing. KD and Lebron both had a competitive advantage.
@@ashtonkusher433they could do it they were just new to how to win they lost that one but I don’t believe they would have done it again and a lot of politics went into that win for the cavs also cuz Curry got two without KD
There were only 3 issues here 1. OKC fans were upset 2. Curry fans were happy for KD to help as long as Curry was the MVP which obviously didn't happen 3. Lebron fans were upset at KD because he shut down any potential Cavs streak Simple
kd already beat dirk duncan and kobe. guys much better than steph. he was recognized as a top two player. scoring titles, mvp. better 2 way player. stuff like that
@@peerlessbeard8914 in reality the big brother example was bad. mccants is right and gil is wrong. the reason dats a bad argument is cause that’s a one on one fight. basketball is 5v5. gil is sayin ur weak for callin ur brother for a 1v1 fight to make it 2v1 and that is not the same thing.
Why does everyone forget how much had to happen to the warriors for them to lose that 73-9 season but clearly remember what happened to the cavs the first year
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6myea.. but I get what Gil is saying here. Asking for help and receiving it isn’t that much different than going and finding it yourself.. the only difference is the organization does it for you.. which shouldn’t be a credit to Steph at all
Bro , this whole arguement is just irrelevant. If you a free agent , 30 teams got a chance to pick you up, if Cleveland could have gotten KD , they would have. People need to stop crying
Yes tf they did they knew they had to play Bron again because the cavs coming out the east was law atp in the league and he just beat them after coming back 3-1 curry needed help !
2015 they went down 2-1 to the Cavs which featured Bron and role players 😂😂 Love and Kyrie were hurt the whole series, next year they lost 4-3 to the Cavs in the finals and picked up KD right after that, u telling me GS is gonna beat the 2017 Cavs if they don’t pick up KD? 😂
@@PaperChaserLathey kids bro they don’t understand logic the warriors needed help if you watch them finals they had nun for bron 😂they had nun for him or kyrie when healthy
Ain't no way people blaming Golden State for getting KD. You people are acting like 12 year olds fr 🤦♂️. NBA is a business if you still don't understand that, stop talking.
That's Bron fans for you he dont hold the "King" accountable for teaming up with Wade and Bosh or Love and Kyrie "it's not the same" 🚮 just like they make excuses for losing in 2015 cuz of "injuries"
@@sharp_shooter8766weak like 2010 Cavs with best record in the NBA losing and Lecrying calling Wade, Bosh Melo and Paul to team up all franchise players at that time.
BullShit KD didn't get enough credit. Prior to 2022 FMVP from Steph the whole narrative was "KD saved Steph", "Steph cant win without KD", "KD carried them". Steph in B2B Finals 2017 and 2018 averaged 27/7/7 on 59% true shooting and was "choking" in the Finals. Outside of Game 4 (2017 Finals) and Game 3 (2018 Finals) Steph was 31/7/6 on 45/45 from 3 on 5.4 makes a game/ 94 from the line Steph in 2018 was the best player in 3/4 games for Golden State and 2/4 games overall for in the 2018 Finals (Game 2 and 4) and he lost FMVP because KD had an all-time game 3. The same reason Bron won Olympic MVP was the same reason why Steph lost FMVP in 2018. It sums how how people will overlook stephs impact on winning on big stakes games, Steph had 1 of the most important games in usab history, most points ever in a medal game in what looked like a team Serbia win 95% of the time, but here we are giving the bulk of the credit to his teammate all over again. And btw the "Warriors called KD because they couldn't beat LeBron crap" Just read this article right here. www.cbssports.com/nba/news/mychal-thompson-says-warriors-will-make-a-serious-run-at-kevin-durant/
@@ksisniipez Was he tho? 2018 Steph was better 3/4 games and Steph took on the opposing teams defensive responsibility and you've seen since leaving Steph KD struggle a bit when teams key in on him
😂 first off; curry should have 3 MVPs in the finals. The first year they won Curry should’ve won. KD second title; Curru should’ve won as well. Curry had one bad game in the finals, Curry had 3 great games KD was ok. We also know It was questionable because millions thought and still think to this day; that series was rigged.
Still doesnt change the fact that if kd hadn't went dea kd woulda had zero rings and curry would have only 2 if that depending on if the team were still together by that time!! 😂 cuz if not for kd bron woulda got at least 2 more rings off that rivalry @regal394
They say they don’t like narrative but continue the narrative that dray called KD after the game and begged KD to come to the team which they both have said isn’t true. KD was top 3 in the team but we mad a team shot their shot at getting him like it’s a bad look. Comparing Ron Harper and Dennis Rodman to KD is criminal. KD and Steph were mutually beneficial for each other for the time they were together.
Draymond definitely said he called KD in the locker room and said, "Did you just see that?" Then he made sure Steph was okay with recruiting him, and they got on the plane.
1. Not a Generational Talent 2. Steph is not the bset without the 3 Point 3. KD saved Stephs legacy Gill is slowly revealing how he is a Steph hater. It’s hard to hide it anymore.
@@rodneybanner1589No its not lmao Steph got 2 chips with or without, is the greatest shooter with or without and is the greatest player In GSW history lmaoooo His legacy is secured before KD yall really forget this is all stephs era, he just hasnt had the health and team health to stay @ the top. He shows he is clearly top 5 still.
@@nimbus9954 I don’t think you’re looking at it objectively. Steph’s first ring both Kyrie and Love didn’t play and Bron still took 2 games of them, so the overall sentiment was a healthy CLE team beats GS which they did and the narrative after that was Steph was not clutch, he disappeared in big games and they were the first finals team to ever give up a 3-1 lead. So his reputation had taken a hit. Then KD arrives and they win b2b chips and during that run the narrative became well damn Steph doesn’t even have a FMVP, KD took them. So the series against BOS he desperately needed to prove himself and he did but to say KD didn’t help his legacy would be wrong. I personally think they helped each other.
@@jasongordan they wanted kd because hes kd if any team has a chance to get kd they are going for it if lebron and the cavs had the means to get him they would.
GIL you’re not the voice for the people !! KD defly gets his credit for the two he help Steph win .. Steph won before Kd and after Kd SO YOU CANT SAY STEPH NEEDED ANYBODY
Steph actually did need KD during that warriors era 🤷♂️ without him joining its not guaranteed they win those 2 championships, & then Steph would have 2 rings rn which changes alot
@@ksisniipez I’m saying you acting like Steph called Kd it’s been worded that Draymond set the whole thing up .. why not go get him if he’s available like Rashad said .. Kd couldve turned the offer down and went somewhere else but he knew if he had Steph and the golden state warriors play style he could wins shidddd Kd could’ve chose to go with lebron 😴
People act like anyone who had the chance wouldn't get kd. If a player has a winning mindset then they will want to have the best chance at winning posible. No one wants to be stuck on a team that just isnt good enough. The rules nowadays basically force players to change teams so they might as well chose the best chance at winning.
What Gil is saying at the 3:45 mark, says what I've been trying to say. If I'm the best player and the best team wants me, and can actually afford it, umm yeah
@@jasongordan ok so what does it do for the argument any team do it for free agents especially this big to recruit them even the cavs went for him like the rest of the league.
2 things can be true...you can think Golden State was weak for calling KD AND consider KD weak for coming. Gil takes issue with media pushing the narrative he doesn't agree with because he's a Durant fan...but he has no problem pushing the narrative where Steph and Golden State are weak? And if y'all remember...that WAS the narrative back then. They DRAGGED the warriors but that's a narrative Gil is okay with so he acts like it never even happened.
@@KingKalidor yes and by "highlighting the other side" on his channel of nearly 1 million subscribers he effectively pushed a different narrative out. When you have a platform that reaches a vast amount of people, anything you say is literally "pushing" that narrative. He just called the warriors weak for 40 minutes straight on a highly successful media outlet...that is the definition of pushing a narrative. These hypocrites push narratives everyday and think they're not just as bad as the big bad "media".
@@KingKalidoryes and by "highlighting the other side" on his channel of nearly 1 million subscribers he effectively pushed a different narrative out. When you have a platform that reaches a large amount of people, anything you say is literally "pushing" a narrative. He just called the warriors weak for 40 minutes straight on a highly successful media outlet...that is the definition of pushing a narrative. These guys push narratives everyday and act like they aren't just as bad as the big bad "media"
@@KingKalidor yes and by "highlighting the other side" on his channel of nearly 1 million subscribers he effectively pushed a different narrative out. When you have a platform that reaches a large amount of people, anything you say is literally "pushing" a narrative. He just called the warriors weak for 40 minutes straight on a highly successful media outlet...that is the definition of pushing a narrative.
It is how KD left OKC, a winning situation. They were 1 game away from The Finals(with people thinking OKc can defeat The Cavs). Then, you didn’t even let your road dog Russ know. It’s a sucker move. A bigger sucker move than The Warriors calling KD!
Gils point is the blame and shame KD gets, and GS doesn't get any after getting spanked by LBJ and initiated contact with KD so therefore if you're gonna criticize KD, you need to criticized GS also, thats a fair take on that situation.
But both were criticized that’s why it’s an unfair take. He’s trying to downplay that fact because it’s years later. Curry literally clowned all of the media that criticized him as soon as he won in 2022. Winning silences the crowd. KD hasn’t done that yet so the ridicule continues to grow.
Lebron went to a heat team who didn’t even make the conference finals, KD went to a 73-9 greatest regular season team who lost by a possession in game 7 of the nba finals… Rashad just wanna be different knowing he wrong. It was nowhere near the same move 😂
It wasn’t just LeBron lol LeBron joined a top 3-5 player in the league and then brought another top 10 player. It’s the same shit no matter how you slice it. They both left for greener pastures.
@@aris_mendez Now that part I get but you missing one thing my guy, the heat didn’t play and beat lebron in the playoffs so even though what you said was true there’s that small thing right there. Lebron didn’t go by if you can’t beat em join em
@aris_mendez D Wade literally said out of his own mouth that had the Heat not made any big free agent moves that summer he was going to leave Miami so it wasn't just Bron deciding to make that move. Plus they were both tired of losing to Boston's big 3 in the playoffs so they decided to form there version of a big 3 to match Boston. Plus Miami was 4 years removed from winning the chip when it happen. GS literally was in the Finals the same summer they went and got KD. Not even close to being the same situation.
Yeah he the little that just finds the opposite one else to make a point. The evidence will show one thing and he will just find any narrative to just be different. It really just comes off that he trying to be argumentative. All his points go against LeBron James, which shows he bias and it’s lame. 10:16
Same exact thing. Actually worse. Bosh and wade were in their prime and he joined them. They were both top 10 players (wade top 5) and top 10 in PER. And they joined together in the East when the conference was at its worst. Than he went to Cleveland and did the same thing with kyrie and Love. Then he joined up with AD lol. All these players were in their prime.
They were also the Western Conference champions. They act as if they wouldn't be there again in 2017 or 2018. They lost HB to get him. HB was 19pts/5 Reb/2 Ast in 2016. They picked up the best available free agent that worked within the confines of the cap situation. They have proven that they can can win chips without KD.
Rashad is right 1000%. He let Gil steer him away from his stance that KD is a King. It doesn’t matter how much you feel or bring up a different narrative Gil
I ain’t gon lie. Mccants got a point! If im an organization and the #2 player in the league is available and we have cap room for him. Why wouldn’t i go out and try and get him?
You can't compare team legacy with individual legacy. What KD did will forever be considered sucker ish. Golden State did what they needed to do as a team because upstairs only care about winning and not how they win. 19:47 explains it perfectly.
@@NUYORK07 again this shows the media can control you casual people so help me understand. Why is it a sucker move for KD when he was a free agent but the Warriors literally lost because they choked in the finals on top of that they chartered the starting five to recruit this man while he was on vacation, and that was not a weak move? Yall r clowns on another level.
@@TheColdest97 team management cannot be considered weak for pursuing a better roster. That can’t be a narrative because that’s the goal of every team In the league. Real Madrid just added Killian Mbappé to their current roster that won the champions league, you think people consider them weak???? Killian Mbappé is the one who arguably made a weak move. So yeah the warriors don’t need to apologize for adding KD at that moment or any other moment. That’s how it works!!
@@Lewash24 so kd should be praised for being the savior to the warriors legacy. That “almost 3peat” was bcuz of kd. Had he not gotten injured that last finals he would have closed the deal again
No he was making a point to how could you criticize someone for going to a team but not criticize a player recruiting players to his own team..which till this day the only person who gets hate for recruiting players to thier team is LeBron 🤷♂️
You can’t knock the Warriors for going after KD. What team in their right mind is not going after KD if he’s a free agent and has the salary for it. Golden State did what every team in the league should’ve and would’ve done. KD gets the Heat for it because it was ultimately his choice to deny all other offers from decent teams to go to the very best. Gil is wrong.
@@jasongordanGil won’t admit that KD took their call and gave them his coordinates because then that would defeat his narrative. Remember a narrative is an opinion not a fact.
Exactly these folks are brain dead. I guess if the superbowl winning team somehow had the number one pick they should trade it and not select a great player. So I guess the lakers shouldn't have taken worthy when they had Kareem and magic. See how illogical that sounds. These gill has bumped his head
You know what's funny when San Antonio Lost to Bron in 2013 the next year they came back and Busted his Axx in 2014 without a Top Level Player. They title deserves more respect than the GS 2017 ring but y'all not ready for this conversation
Curry won a title without KD after he left tf is this opening argument, meanwhile KD did not win without curry even when he teamed up with Harden and Kyrie.
@@iamrysheem Curry still won without KD plus the suns were expected to go far / win a title with Bradley Beal, Devin Booker and KD yet they didn't. I think KD is great but Curry's impact on a team isn't respected enough.
@@YungJae1 kd doesnt have a bench. The warriors line up is at least 5-6 players deep. Who else beside the 3 are on the suns? Im this era everybody has 3 at least now.
@@YungJae1you do know curry hasn’t beaten lebron in the playoffs unless lebrons team is injured or kd is on the team even Lebron on the lakers put the warriors out of the playoffs
True but they called him…they recruited him…it was the best basketball decision. Only reason ppl care is because he lost to them. He loses to anybody else we don’t care
correct. but Mccants is wrong because KD went to the warriors to win faster. then he doesnt talk about KD like he does lebron. if lebron did what KD did then Mccants would be calling lebron every name in the book
@@ckharper594people would still care that’s a false narrative as well. People cared about Lebron going to a team that didn’t even make the playoffs. So KD would have been a bigger issue still going to the top team in the west
But wouldn’t say that sh** to Ray Allen face. Remember all that sh** Gill was talking about Isiah and then when Isiah came on the show for the Summer league games in Las Vegas Gill didn’t say sh**, just stood there being quiet.
Lebron definitely isn't the greatest and his ball dominant style is harder to win with... but he still deserves some credit... fk the media bs, he's probably #5 alltime but he's still an alltime great
Mccants talking about “Your giving LBJ an excuse, saying he didn’t win without help” RQ..Did MJ EVER win anything without Scottie Pippen aka “Help”!???
scottie was drafted there lbj team hops never won with lesser stars like curry mj kobe etc… teaming up is his specialty people just biases and untruthful rather than keeping it ah 💯and recognizing flaws while liking played but mfs ignore facts and act oblivious to d ride or prop they favorites up sht is nasty !!🤮 fr no honesty just dishonest yapping and d riding other grown men when mfs have kids etc…😂😂😂
Lmao why Gil acting like KD was the clear #2 in the league at the time?? Steph just won a chip, unanimous MVP, lead his team 73-9, BEAT KD coming back from 3-1, and was one possession from completing the best season ever. Steph surpassed KD by then
after an achilles tear KD almost beat dpoy/mvp giannis by himself. steph without klay and dray gets swept by them😂 he was definitely #2 before the injury . steph has always had the better team around him and better front office.
Where was this Steph 2017 ? Kd took over when it mattered where was Steph 2018 when rockets was destroying gsw n cp3 had Steph quite in the series kd was the difference maker where was Steph 2019 when they was struggling with the clippers kd was the taking over 😂 Steph got a fluke ring 2015 vs injured cavs team den when everybody healthy they choke 3-1 but yall ignore that
Steph avg 26 8 9 in the finals thats a clear disappearing act. 2018 finals he was the favorite for fmvp til game 3 that's on steph. 2019 finals they lost without klay and kd it happens injuries happen
They quick to bring up 2015 injuries on the cavs. But in 2016 curry was hurt, bogut missed last 3 games, iggy was injured, and draymond was suspended a game.
The Warriors won championships with and without KD. KD has not led a team to a championship on any of the other 3 teams he's been on ....that's not a a narrative.
It’s been a narrative 😂😂 had Kd not went to GS, GS wasn’t winning another ring maybe UNTIL 2022, 2022 was free bands, that was up for grabs, that wasn’t a given year, GS weren’t outright title favs in 2022 and in 2015? I mean we remember who didn’t play that whole series 😂Draymond green said HIMSELF he called KD and he KD came and helped them win 2 straight, ya really believe GS was beating The Cavs without KD? 😂😂😂
@@PaperChaserLa I can't say if GS would have won 2 stragiht without KD. That would be speculation about what would have happened. One could speculate that if Draymond didn't go down(suspended I think), they beat the CAVS in that series. The facts are GS was a championship team before KD. They were a championship team with KD. They were a championship team after KD. That's documented. What's also documented is that KD has not led a team to or won a championship in OKC, Bklyn or Phx. None of that is a narrative.
What? KD always gets his credit as a contributor, but people questioned his legitimacy of being able to be a first option. Similarly to how Steph was credited for his championships, but people questioned the legitimacy of how good he was without a FMVP.
Any all-star play that golden state had added to that roster would have put them over their top. They played a style of basketball that was ahead of the league.
@DeionSimmons-d8o CAP, what you talking about. DeRozan and Beal were free agents. Any of those two guys would have put GS over the top to win the championship. They were up 3-1 before Green miss game 5.
Yeah a 37 year old Ray Allen near retirement it's the equivalent of the 73-9 warriors getting the best player in the world, the math checks up perfectly. Y'all ridiculous 😂
Right because Ray Allen was carrying teams and was in his prime from Seattle put in a freezer and was in his prime for Miami but old for Boston lol as long as it has something to do with LeBron and teammates they were all in their prime remember that
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" F*CK RAY ALLEN!!!" Has me in tears😭😂🤣😭. I watched that like 10x 😂😂
Man literally 🤣🤣🤣
@@AkaRasheed81 ray allen got the “well i never” face on rn
Crazy thing I don’t think Ray Allen would be offend😂😂😂🎉🎉🎉🎉
I’m on 13
😂😂😂 and he MEANT that shit! Lmao
Why can’t both parties be weak? Warriors weak for calling and KD weak for going….end of conversation.
Hy n yuu weak kuz yuu talking bout it btc
That’s what he’s saying tho, the media and fans only call kd weaj
The cavs called for KD also so i guess bron weak too
Has KD won since then? That’s why that narrative exists. Curry did it before him and after him
That’s the dumbest argument I ever heard stop spewing me ESPN talk think for yourself
@roadrunner4578 that's a casual argument
Honest question, if that 73-9 teams add a Paul George instead of KD, do they still have a good chance? If yes, then KD needed warriors more than they needed him. He’s never been a title favorite since then
Kd wasn't winning without steph thats just facts he hasnt
@@darnellwilliams8783 how is it casual? Have you not watched the last 5 years?
Steph won before KD and after KD. Without KD, Steph still has 2 chips, still the greatest shooter of all time, still gets 1 FMVP, still has the only unanimous MVP in history, still has the best regular season record in history...Basically instead of a top 10 resume, steph has a top 15 resume without KD.
Without Steph, KD...is James Harden...Allen Iverson...an all time great scorer with nothing resume wise to put him in any important conversations. Without Steph, KD has a worse all time resume than Kyrie Irving.
That super team did WAY more for KDs legacy than it did for Steph.
Also has the worst choke job in history lol
your right but that's not what's being talked about
@@nycxtbh947 I won before you, won with you, won after you left....who helped who???
@@isk2829well it would be different if gsw never back to back curry wouldn’t get looked at as a top 5 pg
@@yolousane again, I won before you, won with you, won after you left....who helped who???
If anything Steph saved KD legacy. If Steph says “nah i don’t want KD “ he wouldn’t have a championship. He’s been getting his ass kicked since he left golden state. Steph has been doing just fine lol
Why did Steph say yea than ????? And why would steph take a backseat ???
Thats the craziest part. Kd is the greatest player to nvr win a ring if he nvr joins GS. Also I hate the narrative cavs automatically win if kd doesn't go bc GS replace kd with any other top 10 sf at the time and I see them still winning those bck2bck championships
@@MacMula you know Steph actively recruited KD he didn’t just give a blessing he pitched the team to the man that what Gil talking about
@@jonjon5665 naw buddy they won’t the first because Ky goes down game won I think then love gets hurt n still lebron was in it
Steph would only have 2 chips 🤷🏿♂️
Rashad trying to pretend like warriors calling KD is not a problem when he know DAMN well if it was LeBron that called KD in 2016 to come to the Cavs, he'd be the main one blaming Bron for that weak ish
Bron did call kd he just chose golden state
That’s cuz his a Lebron hater lol
@@keymongriffin4520 lies lol
What is the goal? To make money and win, or just to play?
Lebron wouldn't call anyone he would have move to a whole other team😂😂
lol the fact Kenyon ain’t jump in the conversation til they started talking about fighting is hilarious lmaooo
That is a great observation and too hip for the room funny!
@@cdublun Gil threw the alley for real lmao
But I clearly hear him talking about the KD in the beginning. I was expected to have to be quiet until something about fighting happened.But that's not what happened.So what are you talking about
@@fosev47 he jumped out of the convo until they brought up the fighting analogy is that a better way to explain the joke to you?
@CousinPreemo the joke on me 🤣🤣🤣that wasn't the first and only time he said something so he was in the convo 🤷🏿♂️but you are the joke because that's shit was ass
The issue with gils argument is no one will ever blame a TEAM for trying to get better. A Team should always be trying to get better.
Exactly. If the Cavs could’ve acquired KD. They would have
@@eliasmercado5661but they didn’t and KD is the one with a broken legacy yall purposely miss the point every vid
@@emekaamadi9827 But they will be blamed for being 73/9, being up 3/1, losing and then showing that they were not strong enough to win without KD. They should have been strong enough to eat Bron without KD. Either GSW wasn’t strong enough or Bron was just too strong.
The point is the players on the warriors should be looked at as weak for running and getting help from the 2nd best player at the time. The Cavs came back with the same team. He means they could have came back that year and beat the Cavs. It wasn't a guarantee the Cavs would win. But shit who wouldn't have gotten KD if they could at that time. And don't forget he was the best player on those 2 championships.
only team gets a pass for getting better singing a prime mvp is nice guy steph curry , stop being biased
McCants is legit making my head hurt with his argument…like he straight arguing to argue. What is Gil saying that don’t make sense to him lmao
That's what he does the majority of the time.
Fr...boy is weird.
@@bigep79 … that’s why I wrote they need to let MCcants answer first so he can’t just disagree to disagree!!! I really think he would change his mind and rebuttal his own statement to disagree with Gil!!!
@bryandungee1029 who knows fam, he might. All that disagreeing just to disagree is childish
@@bigep79 and LAME bro
People forget KD was apart of numerous super teams after curry and never touched the finals
And he had great teams before. That team with Westbrook and Harden was tough. Even tho they were younger kd had similar experience to a guy like Ant Edwards does now but with more talent on his team. Even that 2016 team was great, setting aside the team records, those teams looked pretty fairly matched on paper.
@@randallfe that also has to do with team and injuries…
@@treharper9755 same with 2016
@@randallfe curry played , dray played , klay played everybody played but one person. If you play you good and it’s not excuses
numerous? 😂 just lying for fun. no kd, no dynasty
LMAOO McCants face when it’s common knowledge that they called KD after they lost 😂😂 he is funny man
Draymond talked to him, and kd said he needed steph to say he was OK with it.
@@Swizzstick671they all went to the Hamptons to get him lol this story is old and everyone knows this.
@@marlopunk4265they didn’t all do anything, Dray called him and they went to meet with him, Steph didn’t get on no phone saying he needed KD, Dray didn’t trust Steph, Dray also said they didn’t need KD to win one minute and the next he say they needed him, you didn’t need a KD to beat a team who only won on a game winning shot
KD Is On Camera Talking About How Bad He Wanted To Play With Them Because He Loved Their Style Of Play
@marlopunk4265 the all went after kd said he needed steph to be ok with him going.
As a hooper, KD’s move is significantly worse than Bron.
As bad as it looked like for Bron, the best player at that time, to leave and team up someplace else, KD leaving a championship contender for the team that just eliminated them just screams “I want it easy” much much louder.
CLE was a contender solely because of Bron for years. At least he had a reason to leave unlike KD.
Lebron's was worst. The Cavs had the #1 record 2 years straight. That's a 🏆 contender
@@abluminberg solely because of him. Finals in 07, deep runs after but couldn’t get the job done. He clearly needed help.
Meanwhile KD was in an even better position coz he had a legit running mate in Russ and a competent FO (even when they dropped the ball on Harden they remained a powerhouse in the West). They were up 3-1 vs the best team that year but just couldn’t finish the job. How do you NOT feel so bad about losing that series and NOT want to go at those mfs again?!
@playmaker011 what team Lebron play in 07? It was statistically, the worst finals run in history
@@abluminberg I agree. Even when CLE was top seed, it was a 3-team race in the East or if we’re being honest, BOS vs ORL vs Bron.
KD and OKC on the other hand was among the best teams in the West consistently, especially that 2016 run.
Best comment ever Bro 👌🏽💯
don’t forget bron averaged 37 PPG against mccants
Always gotta bring this up to humble him 😂
sir thats not how it works. Stop glazing. Wipe your mouth.
@@novelaego2404 You're so ignorant and dumb. That's exactly how it works bozo
@@novelaego2404 You're such an ignorant bozo. I hate bots like you 😂
@@novelaego2404 oh my fault, defend your boyfriend.
Gil keeps saying “Who looks weak” man if KD on the market EVERYTEAM wants him lol
Exactly Gil gettin them Lechecks
Okay that’s cool but there was other good teams that he could’ve went kd decided to go the best team in the league so it most definitely a weak part on both kd n warriors
@@tshynejohnston7383that was the best decision he ever made, who cares if random people say he looks weak. It’s only the weak ones saying that 😂
Yall ninjas must not have a competitive bone in yall bodies… I never even wanted an unbeatable team at OPEN GYM!!! I wanna compete against every ninja that thinks they like that, win lose or draw!!! That shxt was weak af on both sides
@@tshynejohnston7383 Not any other teams other than Cavs and Warriors that would have gotten them over GS though.
It's not about credit. It's about respect. OKC blew a 3-1 lead just like golden state but unlike KD, Steph didn't leave his team to join the team that whooped his ass.
Also Steph won before KD and after KD. WITHOUT Steph, KD has NO rings
If they were 73-9 why would steph fly across the country to ask KD to join them??????????
@@jasongordanKD had to have given them the coordinates to where he was at
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mthat's what you came up with....really?
@@tbjb009How else did they know where KD was?
It's normal to recruit somebody. How many times LeGm did that? KD was a free agency that time of course any other team can recruit him but the warriors had the best chance to sign him that time because warriors can bring him the ring that he wants. And guess what. When KD left he can't have a ring no more.
The issue is that KD had just came out saying that he was tired of being number 2 to Bron. KD had an opportunity to go take number 1 from Bron but choked with a 3-1 lead. Regardless if Golden State lost to Cleveland, KD the weak one because he was trying to chase being #1 and felt the only way he could do that was to join the team that he could not beat and was just up 3-1 on Bron. Golden State did what anyone would do, offer the best players available, that doesn't make them weak it makes them smart. They lost by 4 to Cleveland in game 7. They weren't beaten so bad they couldn't envision beating Cleveland the way they were constructed
Yall crazy asf , so kd suppose to leave and go to a weak ass team and lose
@@anitadrayton6883not necessarily a weak team but like the rockets for example would’ve been a great spot it would’ve been just him and James from the fan perspective him going to golden state took away the competitiveness and balance
Who cares. Got blasted by Lebron without KD, got blasted again by Kawahi without KD. Nobody trying to hear yall dumb excuses. They beat Cleveland without KD with Love and Kyrie out. Foh!
I won before you, won with you, won after you left....who helped who???
Well said
This is facts 💯 👏🏾 it's hard to debate what we all witnessed
Exactly what I came to say. There's a very good chance that the Warriors would have won those same two titles without KD. Nobody takes anything away from Shaq's from title in Miami. Nobody tries to take away from KG's title with the Celtics even though he joined Pierce's team. It doesn't mean KD isn't a great player. He is but you also have to be real
Won by default. Got me you destroyed everyone won 2. I leave you SUCK for years, get young talent win.
Lebron would have 2 more rings. The warriors bitched and went a got KD
I think Gil thinks if he screams, he'll be understood 😂
Facts….that’s why the chat voted 71% for gil, cause they think he’s right when he yells🙄smh!…
He do be right the fuck Yall talking bout
He be loud and RIGHT!!
@@C-Champion91 in THIS topic? Gil is wrong!..
@@johnjovanovichwick4194 in THIS topic? Gil is wrong 100%
it's hilarious that the Warriors as an organization are being ridiculed for signing KD. If KD wants to sign with you, and you say no because of the media or the judgement, you're a TERRIBLE owner and GM lol
Exactly like huhhh if kd wanted to go the cavs he would’ve been on the fucking CAVS !!!!
Just a testament to Steph, tbh. Everyone cried so hard saying they broke the league when the Warriors won the KD lottery. Meanwhile we've had stacked ass teams since then and no one bats an eye.
These dumb fans have used this rubbish argument for nearly a decade. It still makes ZERO sense to me. There were stacked team before and after - none of them as elite as 2016-19 Warriors. You could argue all day - KD went to Warriors because they found their final piece to be the cheat code. The league didn't like it, because it pissed every other fanbases.
@@flashyflash7152Those teams back then were built through the draft and free agency.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mnaw even during the kd era there were sum good teams any team that kd went to would’ve instantly won 😭but golden state js had the best pg at the moment
People keep saying just curry like he didn’t have draymond klay and iggy as well that team was loaded and still decided to get kd after the finals lost
I feel like im losing brain cells when I watch this show 💀
Especially McCants .. I think he’s on fent 😢
yet…here you are🤡
@@TheNeutralizer27😂
@@TheNeutralizer27not fent
Not the RiRi 😂😂
10:22 Ray Allen - What he say fuck me for? 😂😂😂
They gone chop that “FUCK RAY ALLEN” up and go crazy 😂😂
Lmao that shit was personal 😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Was wondering what this comment alludes to and just found out 😂😂😂 Dawg, Gil is one funny as dude!!!
Don’t worry its just GIL going ´South Sudan’ with this so-called ‘Narrativé ! 😃🏀😃
KD possibly stole 2 rings from Lebron. Nobody talk about that.
Stop crying. NBA is a business, nobody stole anything.
I’m a Lebron Hater by all accounts and that’s the correct take
Can’t steal something he never owned
@@MrHutchiemcfly grown man being a Lebron hater for no reason 🤡🤦♂️. Go do sum with your life.
Some people really make comments to just do it. This comment has nothing to it
If anything Steph saves KDs legacy he'd have zero
😂😂😂, Steph would have 1, acquired through a weak Cavs team.
@@mandlatube22 buddy
@@mandlatubeHe would’ve won the following year had Bogut, Iggy, & Steph were healthy!
Facts
@@theefamgodthey shouldn’t even have beat okc had the refs suspended dray that series… dude kicked like 3 different people on the 🥜 with no consequence…fact of the matter is that warriors weren’t ever beating a healthy cavs without kd.. they beat a solo bron cavs team and lost to cavs in 2016. That’s why they called kd crying begging for him to go to them
Reminder:
The same year KD got swept, is the same year Curry won a fmvp 🤥🤥🤥🤥
Against the same team that swept KD 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶
Edit: Yes, be mad at me cause you can't carry a Unanimous MVP that has never been swept in the playoffs 🤥🤥✌️✌️ Cry to ya moms
😳😳
@@kreezyn the celtics had 3 people putting up 20 a game KDs next highest was 12ppg
@@AnnoyedArchaeology-fm2 The real question is, why the hell the 2022 DPOTY allow Curry to average over 30 ppg on his watch
@@MyNameIsTwan add context yall some KD haters Durant was hurt in 2022
@@MyNameIsTwandopy award has been a joke for a while
I never agree with rashad mccants but in this situation I digress. Every team in the league called durant. He chose what he chose
THANK YOU
@@reignsupreme7686how is that a bad thing?
@@mayhomayho9114Because he left the Thunder high and dry.
@@darrieuslewis1920 It’s still soft. Do people understand how many championships LeBron with have if the best players available went to play with him? They actively did not support him and actively teamed up to beat him. That is lame and should be talked about. Yes KD could go anywhere but let’s discuss why he choose them to begin with.
@@Commonsens8 so it’s lame for Lebron to team up with Wade and Bosh right
How is it KD saved Steph lol Gilbert always hated on Steph on the low
Umm he kinda did save him 🤷♂️
The Cavs could have beaten the warriors the next year if they didn’t get KD. KD made up for any mistakes Steph and klay made which also gave them the ability to be more aggressive, it’s like common sense.
@@ksisniipez 😂😂😂 he literally had 2 mvps and beat kd the year before he came. Kd coming eliminated steph from 1st team all nba and mvp votes it literally hurt stephs legacy and elevated kd to champion how do u even say that
You come get me needing my help and win , I saved you 🤷🏾♂️
Let's be real? Who saved who? KD was recognized as the 2nd best player in the league. KD went to GSW to SAVE HIS LEGACY!!!! That was clear in his decision.
It was a perfect storm for Dubs to get KD. Money freed up with Barnes’ free agency, KD was a free agent, and KD was the perfect gap filler. If Barnes had not been a free agent or if the Dubs had been scrubs, KD would have gone elsewhere. It was the perfect short-term marriage. Unfortunately, the org mismanaged the culture and KD left, but let’s not lose site of how it came to be.
If the Warriors had upgraded to someone between Harrison Barnes and KD instead of KD, Curry could still have 4 rings. If it wasn’t for two potential career ending injuries, the KD Warriors would have three.
Curry‘s a foundational team piece that you can build around. KD is the ultimate final piece for any team, but he can’t win you a championship without a solid enough foundation.
This is true for every player though, Jordan needed rebounds and post defense because he's a guard. LeBron needs spacing to compliment his driving and passing. Kareem needed a PG to lead the offense and pass well. Unless I'm missing your point, a superstar needs their supporting cast otherwise you end up with 04 Pistons beating the Lakers
@@idk5916 I think Steph elevates his teammate more, like Lebron does for his teams. KD is such a talent, he might not understand how to make his teammates better but nothing is stopping KD from getting 30+ at will.
Also, the Warriors as a team was in a better position to keep winning the Thunder as a team at the time, so the comment about Steph still have 4 rings is mostly about team/org. But I also think KD earned three rings but only got two.
But I think KD made the right choice to go to GSW. As a top 10 or top 15 player of all time, you don’t pass up the chance to play with another one.
Watching Steph, KD and Lebron share the court during the Olympics was something special
No he’s not. That lebron your talking about. Lebron won with three different teams. Steph does not work with out both Draymond and Klay. Where did those kind of players exist most of stephs carreer? On what other teams?
@@iamrysheemI don’t think Steph needs Draymond and Klay. They compliment him perfectly, but he doesn’t need them. He could do what he does with any team that runs that system for him. As long as he’s allowed to move without the ball freely, Steph will always be effective and his teammates will have far less pressure on them, making them better by default.
@@Al-Sahem-Al-Ghul thats easy to say now that everybody in the nba has basically the same kind of players. When he won most of his chips they didnt and to say he doesnt need them is ridiculous. He has literally never won without them. They had to wait for klay to get healthy before they won another one. And when Klay declined their hopes of repeating basically disappeared.
Without those type of players Steph is not as effective. They ran through alot of players after durant to prove that. He’ll score thirty a game but not make the playoffs. How many times has durant not made the playoffs?
All I know is The Warriors won a championship before and after KD left.
All true but they still called and got two more before the last championship. Truth is the truth. All around
So and that team could have failed as well. We have seen too many examples of super teams forming the first year and fail. Bucks and Dame, Houston and CP3, Brooklyn and KD, LeBron with D Wade, Derrick rose, Kevin Love in Cleveland and etc.
Kyrie and Love missed 2015 Finals
Tatum played with a fractured wrist in the 2022 Finals
So the warriors almost won 3 in a row. But KD and Klay got hurt
@@bc_qbevalso
McCants fell for the okie,doke! "Big Brother" analogy killed this! 😂😂
But Big brother still has to decide to show up and fight little bro fight. Big bro still a clown in that analogy if he decides to fight.
They pretending like draymond getting suspended didn’t change the whole series
You can say the same thing when kevin Love and Kylie got hurt.. The Warriors were done . 🤔🤔
@@lonniedixon3433 that’s why I made the comment he brought up kyrie and love getting hurt but won’t bring up draymond getting suspended or ejected the whole series changed after that and draymond was playing the best basketball offensively of his career
They pretending Draymond shouldn't have been suspended ages ago when he was kicking people in the nuts. Morons.
@@devondunn7690still had 2 games afterwards
@@SCOOBYGD draymond got kicked out of game 5 and suspended game 6 they would of won both of them games and would of never been a topic but it is lol just like kyrie and Kevin love getting injured was
KD could have said no; he did not have to come to Golden State. Steph won after him, so it does not matter anymore. 💯
Point is that steph flew across the country to ask KD to join them!!!!! They just went 73-9 why would they even think about adding KD
Steph was on the team when LD won back to back FMVPs
@@jasongordanwhat are you talking about draymond call kd Steph and KD mutually agreed
@@jordanwilliams9222don't try to make excuses for the Warriors just because you like Curry, that is what Gil is saying
I believe two things can be true. Yes, the warriors called KD, and KD said yes. I think both party's legacies were saved. I'm glad KD went there. It was great to watch. I won't bash KD because LeBron James did the same thing. KD and Lebron both had a competitive advantage.
The problem is KD has not went deep into the playoffs since he left. Golden State won another chip since he left.
He help them get pass a healthy cavs team which they couldn’t do
@@ashtonkusher433they could do it they were just new to how to win they lost that one but I don’t believe they would have done it again and a lot of politics went into that win for the cavs also cuz Curry got two without KD
@@detroitbanks9140 no they were not 😂😂lebron figured them out . Nigga talking about some politics gtfoh
There were only 3 issues here
1. OKC fans were upset
2. Curry fans were happy for KD to help as long as Curry was the MVP which obviously didn't happen
3. Lebron fans were upset at KD because he shut down any potential Cavs streak
Simple
How is KD the big brother when he never beat steph 😂
kd already beat dirk duncan and kobe. guys much better than steph. he was recognized as a top two player. scoring titles, mvp. better 2 way player. stuff like that
It's called a hypothetical analogy for a reason, yall be getting a pass for being dumb 🤦♂️
You dumber than a box of rocks😂😂
kD is a better player than Steph but KD didn't have a better team
It was an analogy you taking it way too literal 😂 stay in school kid
just leaving kyrie out by saying the king beat golden state by himself gill is crazy lol
He’s paid by klutch
Lebron won before kyrie, with kyrie, and after kyrie. By you guys theory, kyrie needed LeBron. Lebron don’t need kyrie.
@@B-EZListenexactly Kyrie is a career loser with out Lebron 😂
@@B-EZListensame as the Warriors. That’s the exact point
@@QuietStorm263Kyrie was just in the Finals what? And he avg 27PPG 4/4 and destroyed Curry 1v1 can’t say by himself that is Klutch non sense
Walked right into that big brother example with his eyes closed 😂😂😂
Because he just like to argue but he's not that bright at all
Not the sharpest tool in the shed.
Dats yo scenario 😂
🙈🙈😂😂
@@peerlessbeard8914 in reality the big brother example was bad. mccants is right and gil is wrong. the reason dats a bad argument is cause that’s a one on one fight. basketball is 5v5. gil is sayin ur weak for callin ur brother for a 1v1 fight to make it 2v1 and that is not the same thing.
Why does everyone forget how much had to happen to the warriors for them to lose that 73-9 season but clearly remember what happened to the cavs the first year
Chef Curry saved KD legacy. Gill you right nobody respects KD two championships. Kenyon gave the explanation why.
If you want the respect and praise from the OGs and the real fans you have to do it when it’s your team that you were drafted to.
THEY HELPED EACH OTHER.. take Curry’s sack out your mouth
Shaq didnt do that and he has respect
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6myea.. but I get what Gil is saying here. Asking for help and receiving it isn’t that much different than going and finding it yourself.. the only difference is the organization does it for you.. which shouldn’t be a credit to Steph at all
the guy with 7 finals appearances and 1 fmvp saved him right…😂
Bro , this whole arguement is just irrelevant. If you a free agent , 30 teams got a chance to pick you up, if Cleveland could have gotten KD , they would have. People need to stop crying
Thank you. If Bron had KD they would’ve praised him 😂🤦🏽♂️
Preach
@@virgilconner7884they wouldn’t cook bron for calling KD
@@treharper9755nah they would
@@treharper9755Skip would
The Warriors didn’t need KD. This was proven by them winning in 2022 without him, let alone in 2015.
Yes tf they did they knew they had to play Bron again because the cavs coming out the east was law atp in the league and he just beat them after coming back 3-1 curry needed help !
2015 they went down 2-1 to the Cavs which featured Bron and role players 😂😂 Love and Kyrie were hurt the whole series, next year they lost 4-3 to the Cavs in the finals and picked up KD right after that, u telling me GS is gonna beat the 2017 Cavs if they don’t pick up KD? 😂
Saying the Warriors didn't need KD is beyond blasphemous
yes they did need KD
nigga what happened in 19,20, and 21 without Kd
@@PaperChaserLathey kids bro they don’t understand logic the warriors needed help if you watch them finals they had nun for bron 😂they had nun for him or kyrie when healthy
LeBron team came back from being down 3 to 1 and GS went to the Hamptons to get KD to beat LeBron after they went 73 and 9
Ain't no way people blaming Golden State for getting KD. You people are acting like 12 year olds fr 🤦♂️. NBA is a business if you still don't understand that, stop talking.
Get out! Lol u clearly don't get the point of the show
Gil is right. Golden state was weak for that! Just the fact they were 79-3 and was up 3-1 😂😂
@@sharp_shooter8766how? The point is to get better. KD hasnt sniffed a championship since
That's Bron fans for you he dont hold the "King" accountable for teaming up with Wade and Bosh or Love and Kyrie "it's not the same" 🚮 just like they make excuses for losing in 2015 cuz of "injuries"
@@sharp_shooter8766weak like 2010 Cavs with best record in the NBA losing and Lecrying calling Wade, Bosh Melo and Paul to team up all franchise players at that time.
BullShit KD didn't get enough credit. Prior to 2022 FMVP from Steph the whole narrative was "KD saved Steph", "Steph cant win without KD", "KD carried them". Steph in B2B Finals 2017 and 2018 averaged 27/7/7 on 59% true shooting and was "choking" in the Finals. Outside of Game 4 (2017 Finals) and Game 3 (2018 Finals) Steph was 31/7/6 on 45/45 from 3 on 5.4 makes a game/ 94 from the line Steph in 2018 was the best player in 3/4 games for Golden State and 2/4 games overall for in the 2018 Finals (Game 2 and 4) and he lost FMVP because KD had an all-time game 3. The same reason Bron won Olympic MVP was the same reason why Steph lost FMVP in 2018.
It sums how how people will overlook stephs impact on winning on big stakes games, Steph had 1 of the most important games in usab history, most points ever in a medal game in what looked like a team Serbia win 95% of the time, but here we are giving the bulk of the credit to his teammate all over again. And btw the "Warriors called KD because they couldn't beat LeBron crap" Just read this article right here. www.cbssports.com/nba/news/mychal-thompson-says-warriors-will-make-a-serious-run-at-kevin-durant/
kd overrated as fuck
Well theirs a reason Curry would be discredited which is he still hadn’t won a FMVP so it’s easy to say KD was their best player 🤷♂️
🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@ksisniipez Was he tho? 2018 Steph was better 3/4 games and Steph took on the opposing teams defensive responsibility and you've seen since leaving Steph KD struggle a bit when teams key in on him
😂 first off; curry should have 3 MVPs in the finals. The first year they won Curry should’ve won. KD second title; Curru should’ve won as well. Curry had one bad game in the finals, Curry had 3 great games KD was ok.
We also know It was questionable because millions thought and still think to this day; that series was rigged.
How is KD the big bro when GS just got done beating him😂😂 that was a horrible example
Gil didn't win bcuz Curry beat LeBron the year before
Steph is big bro, Gil just doesn't want to accept it. It hurts him too much
Ppl was saying Curry chokes in the finals…KD finished the job for them. KD was the 2x finals mvp.
@@ckharper594 Steph won a Finals before KD got there, and after he left. That narrative has been debunked
Still doesnt change the fact that if kd hadn't went dea kd woulda had zero rings and curry would have only 2 if that depending on if the team were still together by that time!! 😂 cuz if not for kd bron woulda got at least 2 more rings off that rivalry @regal394
15:15 LMAO draymond called Kd in the parking lot!!! Rashad literally didn’t even acknowledge stay away from ppl like him😂😂😂
How tf is KD Big Bro when he lost to GS 3-1? 🤦🏽♂️😂
Because he won finals mvp over curry go look up the numbers its on google
But he was talking about before that when he signed not after the fact
@jasongordan dummy 😂 stop just saying shit. And winning fmvp don't make you big brother. Kawhi won fmvp over Duncan for playing "defense" on lebron.
@@AM-cy7wv That big bro argument is bogus. Besides, it was pathetic for Gil to think that it made him right🤦🏿♂️
@@jasongordan won with steph cant reach a final without steph def kd big bro😂😂
They say they don’t like narrative but continue the narrative that dray called KD after the game and begged KD to come to the team which they both have said isn’t true. KD was top 3 in the team but we mad a team shot their shot at getting him like it’s a bad look. Comparing Ron Harper and Dennis Rodman to KD is criminal. KD and Steph were mutually beneficial for each other for the time they were together.
Bro draymond is the one that said he called kd right after the lost to bron. Fuck is you talking about
Draymond definitely said he called KD in the locker room and said, "Did you just see that?" Then he made sure Steph was okay with recruiting him, and they got on the plane.
@@sincityraised702you answer every phone call you get? You say yes to every request? 😂 tf
It takes two my guy, acting like they held KD hostage.
@@aris_mendez 😂😂 be serious
lebron was courting KD too in cleveland so lebron takes a hit either way
1. Not a Generational Talent
2. Steph is not the bset without the 3 Point
3. KD saved Stephs legacy
Gill is slowly revealing how he is a Steph hater. It’s hard to hide it anymore.
The only thing that’s debatable is KD saved Steph’s legacy
@@rodneybanner1589No its not lmao Steph got 2 chips with or without, is the greatest shooter with or without and is the greatest player In GSW history lmaoooo His legacy is secured before KD yall really forget this is all stephs era, he just hasnt had the health and team health to stay @ the top. He shows he is clearly top 5 still.
@@nimbus9954Steph and LeBron Era. I agree with you though.
@@nimbus9954 I don’t think you’re looking at it objectively. Steph’s first ring both Kyrie and Love didn’t play and Bron still took 2 games of them, so the overall sentiment was a healthy CLE team beats GS which they did and the narrative after that was Steph was not clutch, he disappeared in big games and they were the first finals team to ever give up a 3-1 lead. So his reputation had taken a hit. Then KD arrives and they win b2b chips and during that run the narrative became well damn Steph doesn’t even have a FMVP, KD took them. So the series against BOS he desperately needed to prove himself and he did but to say KD didn’t help his legacy would be wrong. I personally think they helped each other.
KD definitely save them.
Aye bro that fight and big bro scenario made McCants look real dumb! 😂😂 Gil the man for that one ☝️
I can not believe the weakest move in NBA history is being framed as KD saving Curry. KD ran to a team that won 73 games the prior year.
Than why would they even want KD if they went 73-9?????? I will tell you why because they needed him
They literally flew across the country to recruit him
@@jasongordan they wanted kd because hes kd if any team has a chance to get kd they are going for it if lebron and the cavs had the means to get him they would.
@@duvalwilliams1555 ok than stop saying he ran to them warriors then they ran to him and I dont blame them
Bullshit. He saved their asses. They were 1000% done.
@21:20 that was a perfect trap Gil 😂
It really was I knew it from the jump
Bruh said equilavent 😂😂 9:59
Lmaooo stall Kenyon out bro 😂😂
😂😂😂all these dudes dumb af but I'm here for it
KG can’t say that damn word either😂😂
Yoooo RUclips is petty!!!! You comment came up at the same time he said that shit 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
I swear to God I ran to the comments after I heard it lmao
Homie refuses to hold the L, hold the L McCants
GIL you’re not the voice for the people !! KD defly gets his credit for the two he help Steph win .. Steph won before Kd and after Kd SO YOU CANT SAY STEPH NEEDED ANYBODY
you are definitely in the minority
@@jomama2476 and I bet your a lebron fan ?? Am I wrong ??
Steph actually did need KD during that warriors era 🤷♂️ without him joining its not guaranteed they win those 2 championships, & then Steph would have 2 rings rn which changes alot
@@ksisniipez I’m saying you acting like Steph called Kd it’s been worded that Draymond set the whole thing up .. why not go get him if he’s available like Rashad said .. Kd couldve turned the offer down and went somewhere else but he knew if he had Steph and the golden state warriors play style he could wins shidddd Kd could’ve chose to go with lebron 😴
@@Realtalkscoopwhy would steph take a backseat to KD?????
Why didn’t they mention that the Cavs tried to get Kevin Durant also that same year after the Cavs just won 🤔?
#facts
Fact
People act like anyone who had the chance wouldn't get kd.
If a player has a winning mindset then they will want to have the best chance at winning posible. No one wants to be stuck on a team that just isnt good enough. The rules nowadays basically force players to change teams so they might as well chose the best chance at winning.
Exactly
Any GM who Didn't try to get K fn D as a FREE AGENT. Should be fired.
In that room the loudest person wins the argument😂😂😂
And Gil always the loudest 😂
@@azrazerz1445All you gotta do is just listen to Gil talk and if you actually pay attention, you can use reverse psychology on him.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mmccants tried that and it didn’t work. Gil actually knows what he’s talking about
@@xavierrodriguez7938 Nah you actually have to listen to comprehend and look for the key details
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m yea that’ll work on someone that doesn’t know what they’re talking or have confidence in their answer
What Gil is saying at the 3:45 mark, says what I've been trying to say. If I'm the best player and the best team wants me, and can actually afford it, umm yeah
JUST BECAUSE YOUR LOUD, DOESNT MEAN YOU'RE RIGHT..
Gil is right and y'all mad about it
@@jasongordan what is he right about?
@@iceek1778 that the warriors flew from the bay to new york to ask KD to join them and YES STEPH WAS ON THAT FLIGHT!!!!!
@@jasongordan ok so what does it do for the argument any team do it for free agents especially this big to recruit them even the cavs went for him like the rest of the league.
Well, buddy he is 100% correct in this case
2 things can be true...you can think Golden State was weak for calling KD AND consider KD weak for coming. Gil takes issue with media pushing the narrative he doesn't agree with because he's a Durant fan...but he has no problem pushing the narrative where Steph and Golden State are weak? And if y'all remember...that WAS the narrative back then. They DRAGGED the warriors but that's a narrative Gil is okay with so he acts like it never even happened.
He isnt pushing it hes showing the other side that no one else high lights
@@KingKalidor yes and by "highlighting the other side" on his channel of nearly 1 million subscribers he effectively pushed a different narrative out. When you have a platform that reaches a vast amount of people, anything you say is literally "pushing" that narrative. He just called the warriors weak for 40 minutes straight on a highly successful media outlet...that is the definition of pushing a narrative. These hypocrites push narratives everyday and think they're not just as bad as the big bad "media".
@@KingKalidoryes and by "highlighting the other side" on his channel of nearly 1 million subscribers he effectively pushed a different narrative out. When you have a platform that reaches a large amount of people, anything you say is literally "pushing" a narrative. He just called the warriors weak for 40 minutes straight on a highly successful media outlet...that is the definition of pushing a narrative. These guys push narratives everyday and act like they aren't just as bad as the big bad "media"
Gil’s point is nobody says anything about Golden State for going to KD. It’s a one sided narrative as if the move wasn’t mutual
@@KingKalidor yes and by "highlighting the other side" on his channel of nearly 1 million subscribers he effectively pushed a different narrative out. When you have a platform that reaches a large amount of people, anything you say is literally "pushing" a narrative. He just called the warriors weak for 40 minutes straight on a highly successful media outlet...that is the definition of pushing a narrative.
It is how KD left OKC, a winning situation. They were 1 game away from The Finals(with people thinking OKc can defeat The Cavs). Then, you didn’t even let your road dog Russ know. It’s a sucker move. A bigger sucker move than The Warriors calling KD!
No one is winning with Westbrook
@@aris_mendez how is it all on russ? kd definitely choked during that series too. watch the shots that man was taking vs gs
lol when Gil & Mccants argue that shit be funny as hell
Gils point is the blame and shame KD gets, and GS doesn't get any after getting spanked by LBJ and initiated contact with KD so therefore if you're gonna criticize KD, you need to criticized GS also, thats a fair take on that situation.
But both were criticized that’s why it’s an unfair take. He’s trying to downplay that fact because it’s years later. Curry literally clowned all of the media that criticized him as soon as he won in 2022. Winning silences the crowd. KD hasn’t done that yet so the ridicule continues to grow.
Losing by a game winner is getting spanked ? I coulda sworn Lebron and the heat were the ones who got beat by the most points in finals history.
Yu can never say that a finals that went to a game 7 that was won by 4 points was a spanking
That makes no sense….why blame the warriors at all
@@PraisestoYahAgent zero just making engagement
KD WAS A FREE AGENT; he had the right to do whatever he wanted. He could of said No thank you and kept it pushing.
Warriors won before Kd. With Kd, and after KD. The Warriors saved KDs legacy 😂😂😂😂😂. Gill tripping.
I’m glad you noticed it’s the Warriors and not Steph Curry that is fair
this just shows y’all didn’t watch LeBron in Cleveland😂😂
Niggas be having short term memory cause after they won they lost in historic fashion so they definitely needed Kd just as much 😂
kyrie and kevin love injured. the first one dont even count
@@Angelabarbosadominguez-it4fhall rings count dumbass lol who tf are you to say an accomplishment means nothing
Rashad: moves argument any way possible to make LeBron look the worst no matter who they're talking about.
Lebron went to a heat team who didn’t even make the conference finals, KD went to a 73-9 greatest regular season team who lost by a possession in game 7 of the nba finals… Rashad just wanna be different knowing he wrong. It was nowhere near the same move 😂
It wasn’t just LeBron lol LeBron joined a top 3-5 player in the league and then brought another top 10 player. It’s the same shit no matter how you slice it. They both left for greener pastures.
@@aris_mendez Now that part I get but you missing one thing my guy, the heat didn’t play and beat lebron in the playoffs so even though what you said was true there’s that small thing right there. Lebron didn’t go by if you can’t beat em join em
@aris_mendez D Wade literally said out of his own mouth that had the Heat not made any big free agent moves that summer he was going to leave Miami so it wasn't just Bron deciding to make that move. Plus they were both tired of losing to Boston's big 3 in the playoffs so they decided to form there version of a big 3 to match Boston. Plus Miami was 4 years removed from winning the chip when it happen. GS literally was in the Finals the same summer they went and got KD. Not even close to being the same situation.
Yeah he the little that just finds the opposite one else to make a point. The evidence will show one thing and he will just find any narrative to just be different. It really just comes off that he trying to be argumentative. All his points go against LeBron James, which shows he bias and it’s lame. 10:16
Same exact thing. Actually worse. Bosh and wade were in their prime and he joined them. They were both top 10 players (wade top 5) and top 10 in PER. And they joined together in the East when the conference was at its worst. Than he went to Cleveland and did the same thing with kyrie and Love. Then he joined up with AD lol. All these players were in their prime.
They were also the Western Conference champions. They act as if they wouldn't be there again in 2017 or 2018. They lost HB to get him. HB was 19pts/5 Reb/2 Ast in 2016. They picked up the best available free agent that worked within the confines of the cap situation. They have proven that they can can win chips without KD.
KD won finals MVP over steph back to back
They prove they can win without Kd in a season where all the teams in the west star players were hurt .
@@jasongordanAnd still didn’t get the praise and adulation because it wasn’t his team.
@@LeetraviusMcKay-q6mhas nothing to do with his point
RESPECTFULLY but KD blew a 3-1 lead & joining the Warriors is worse than the Warriors calling KD 😂
Curry blew a 3-1 lead too
@@booneboone9705 yeah but KD joined them after losing to them up 3-1 is my point
@@booneboone9705 and yet he didn't join the cavs
@@el84oro right!
@@booneboone9705curry already beat the cavs remember???
Rashad is right 1000%. He let Gil steer him away from his stance that KD is a King. It doesn’t matter how much you feel or bring up a different narrative Gil
Curry wasn’t a king ?
U tripping it's really a great take because Kd got drug thru the mud but no one said shit about a 73 n 9 team needed another hall of famer
No he’s not. He literally changed his argument/narative half way thru the video
So why he can't get past the second round without the warriors 😭😭😭😭
Nobody:
Kmart: “That’s the same EQUILAVENT!”
Sounding like KG 😂
I feel out my chair
I ain’t gon lie. Mccants got a point! If im an organization and the #2 player in the league is available and we have cap room for him. Why wouldn’t i go out and try and get him?
Lebron didn’t get anybody but Iman, JR, K. Love, Mozgov, etc….. Gil got no facts 😂 😂😂😂😂😂
those dudes are nobodies that anybody could have had stop it if they were so good why in the hell didnt they do anything when bron left?
You can't compare team legacy with individual legacy. What KD did will forever be considered sucker ish. Golden State did what they needed to do as a team because upstairs only care about winning and not how they win. 19:47 explains it perfectly.
@@NUYORK07 again this shows the media can control you casual people so help me understand. Why is it a sucker move for KD when he was a free agent but the Warriors literally lost because they choked in the finals on top of that they chartered the starting five to recruit this man while he was on vacation, and that was not a weak move? Yall r clowns on another level.
You have an employee mindset
@@TheColdest97 team management cannot be considered weak for pursuing a better roster. That can’t be a narrative because that’s the goal of every team In the league.
Real Madrid just added Killian Mbappé to their current roster that won the champions league, you think people consider them weak????
Killian Mbappé is the one who arguably made a weak move.
So yeah the warriors don’t need to apologize for adding KD at that moment or any other moment. That’s how it works!!
@@Lewash24 so kd should be praised for being the savior to the warriors legacy. That “almost 3peat” was bcuz of kd. Had he not gotten injured that last finals he would have closed the deal again
So where the energy gor lebron 😂😂😂 he started it dwade bosh mike miller 😂😂😂 chalmers
GIl lost the argument in less than a minute and a half when he compared Ron Harper to KD
Exactly..but got mad at McCants for using Ray Allen as an example😒n LeBron to at that smh!…
He didn’t compare the players he said star left teams for better situations don’t be goofy
No he was making a point to how could you criticize someone for going to a team but not criticize a player recruiting players to his own team..which till this day the only person who gets hate for recruiting players to thier team is LeBron 🤷♂️
You lack listening skills. He didn’t compare, he used an example.
Pre injury Ron WAS LIKE THAT
These two were arguing for so long that I forgot Kenyon was there
You can’t knock the Warriors for going after KD. What team in their right mind is not going after KD if he’s a free agent and has the salary for it. Golden State did what every team in the league should’ve and would’ve done. KD gets the Heat for it because it was ultimately his choice to deny all other offers from decent teams to go to the very best. Gil is wrong.
Gil is right they were 73-9 and asked KD to join them and by the way STEPH WAS ON THAT FLIGHT!!!!!!
Any GM that didn't pursue Kevin fn Durant as FREE AGENT should be fired lol. Totally Agree
lebron was asking for KD too lol
@@jasongordanGil won’t admit that KD took their call and gave them his coordinates because then that would defeat his narrative. Remember a narrative is an opinion not a fact.
Exactly these folks are brain dead. I guess if the superbowl winning team somehow had the number one pick they should trade it and not select a great player. So I guess the lakers shouldn't have taken worthy when they had Kareem and magic. See how illogical that sounds. These gill has bumped his head
Never,stop the curry hate..curry was greatest shooter ever already before 2018 when Durant got there
Still needed help to beat old lebron🤷🏽♂️
@@narutouzupapi8869facts curry is scared of bron
Crazy part is he literally keeps saying Warriors legacy but yall keep saying he is digging at Curry. Maybe yall just insecure about Curry's flaws
Mccants know damn well they got on a plane and went to see kd in the Hamptons lol
Could KD have said no to them?🤔!…
When was Kobe taking meetings, matter fact MJ , Magic, tf, it was the man first free agency, you’d lose your job if you didn’t call him
@@OnlyMoraleyeah funny how they ignore that part. Acting like they had a gun to his head forcing him to join
@@aris_mendez 😁😆😆😆😆Lmao!…
That GSW team *was* and still is the best in history, they just happened to lose
You know what's funny when San Antonio Lost to Bron in 2013 the next year they came back and Busted his Axx in 2014 without a Top Level Player. They title deserves more respect than the GS 2017 ring but y'all not ready for this conversation
Curry won a title without KD after he left tf is this opening argument, meanwhile KD did not win without curry even when he teamed up with Harden and Kyrie.
They both were injured for large parts of the season or suspended.
@@iamrysheem Curry still won without KD plus the suns were expected to go far / win a title with Bradley Beal, Devin Booker and KD yet they didn't. I think KD is great but Curry's impact on a team isn't respected enough.
@@YungJae1 kd doesnt have a bench. The warriors line up is at least 5-6 players deep. Who else beside the 3 are on the suns? Im this era everybody has 3 at least now.
@@YungJae1you do know curry hasn’t beaten lebron in the playoffs unless lebrons team is injured or kd is on the team even Lebron on the lakers put the warriors out of the playoffs
Gil so wrong about this one. No one forced KD to join the Warriors. He made the decision himself.
True but they called him…they recruited him…it was the best basketball decision. Only reason ppl care is because he lost to them. He loses to anybody else we don’t care
correct. but Mccants is wrong because KD went to the warriors to win faster. then he doesnt talk about KD like he does lebron. if lebron did what KD did then Mccants would be calling lebron every name in the book
@@ckharper594people would still care that’s a false narrative as well. People cared about Lebron going to a team that didn’t even make the playoffs. So KD would have been a bigger issue still going to the top team in the west
They asked him to come, you guys are mentally slaves to the organisation
@@ckharper594Just because I recruit don’t mean sh** because you didn’t have to go to.
The real narrative is how many times after that has KD won & had playoff runs too! He just was a piece to fit the team
Exactly or why did KD go to Golden State?
He also tore his Achilles last game as a Warrior. They minimize that tho.
Him saying kd didn’t want to go to okc was a trash point too. He was tweeting about never leaving in 2011
“Fuck Ray Allen” goes krazyyyy, he got more rings then you and me combined Gil 🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
But wouldn’t say that sh** to Ray Allen face. Remember all that sh** Gill was talking about Isiah and then when Isiah came on the show for the Summer league games in Las Vegas Gill didn’t say sh**, just stood there being quiet.
Don’t compare yourself to Gil man
He wasn’t saying that literally lmao.. yall need to go outside and touch some grass 😂 social skills on ZERO
@@Gustowrld who’s comparing themselves to Gil tho? 🤣
Rashard is INSANE sometimes man...the Bron hate is real
Amazing lol idk what LBJ did to him my god
Rashad "dickhead" mcCANT
Frfr
Rashad can't even stay on topic. He is OBSESSED
Lebron definitely isn't the greatest and his ball dominant style is harder to win with... but he still deserves some credit... fk the media bs, he's probably #5 alltime but he's still an alltime great
Mccants talking about “Your giving LBJ an excuse, saying he didn’t win without help” RQ..Did MJ EVER win anything without Scottie Pippen aka “Help”!???
scottie was drafted there lbj team hops never won with lesser stars like curry mj kobe etc… teaming up is his specialty people just biases and untruthful rather than keeping it ah 💯and recognizing flaws while liking played but mfs ignore facts and act oblivious to d ride or prop they favorites up sht is nasty !!🤮 fr no honesty just dishonest yapping and d riding other grown men when mfs have kids etc…😂😂😂
Yeah good point
Mike made his help, LeBron had to go join his help and still underachieved!
Bruh If MJ had LeBron teams he have like 15 rings 😂
@@sunheruyou don’t even believe what u just said
Gill sound so stupid! Dude think shouting makes his talking points better. His narrative about Big brother is so foolish!
Lol Gilbert said you are a king asking for help. Didn't lebron say we are top heavy 🤣🤣🤣🤣 So a king can't ask for help
Exactly dude just excludes Lebron from the same narratives he put KD under
@@aceboogie3602 GILBERT WORKS FOR CLUTCH SPORTS 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@jeffleveille9274also lebron tried to get kd to they ignorw that
Rodman was traded for Will Purdue. Ron Harper signed as a free agent when Jordan left to play baseball.Neither left their team to join MJ.
Ad was traded and love was traded but yall still say Lebron stacked the deck
@@RW-xq2fbLeBron asked for them to trade for AD just like he did in Cleveland.
@user-lt1fx2he5s Evevryone asks for players. Jordan asks for every player he got. Kobe too and Steph and Draymomd begged for KD asked for him.
@@RW-xq2fbNo he didn’t and Michael Jordan had no power over what the front office did and neither did Kobe.
@user-lt1fx2he5s Yet Michael Jordan had say to Isiah not playing on the Olympic team. To say him or kobe didn't have power is disingenuous
Lmao why Gil acting like KD was the clear #2 in the league at the time?? Steph just won a chip, unanimous MVP, lead his team 73-9, BEAT KD coming back from 3-1, and was one possession from completing the best season ever. Steph surpassed KD by then
KD was number 2 at the time curry didn’t peak until after the won the second time
after an achilles tear KD almost beat dpoy/mvp giannis by himself. steph without klay and dray gets swept by them😂 he was definitely #2 before the injury . steph has always had the better team around him and better front office.
Where was this Steph 2017 ? Kd took over when it mattered where was Steph 2018 when rockets was destroying gsw n cp3 had Steph quite in the series kd was the difference maker where was Steph 2019 when they was struggling with the clippers kd was the taking over 😂 Steph got a fluke ring 2015 vs injured cavs team den when everybody healthy they choke 3-1 but yall ignore that
Steph avg 26 8 9 in the finals thats a clear disappearing act. 2018 finals he was the favorite for fmvp til game 3 that's on steph. 2019 finals they lost without klay and kd it happens injuries happen
he did that to avoid getting derailed
Ray Allen came off bench for Avery Bradley the year before he left
Rashad’s in his feelings about losing at the end lol
He a punk anyways, just hating
They quick to bring up 2015 injuries on the cavs. But in 2016 curry was hurt, bogut missed last 3 games, iggy was injured, and draymond was suspended a game.
That doesn't fit the narrative. Which means it didn't happen.
Dray was suspended 1 game. Bogut is their 5th best player. So it’s not the same
You know this is a Klutch Sports podcast. Only one against the grain is Mccants and they jump him everytime
@@KeezeTVthe glosses over McCants saying Wade and Lebron got together to stop Kobe from winning championships.
@@darnelljohnson7911 All facts that they conveniently fail to acknowledge!
The Warriors won championships with and without KD. KD has not led a team to a championship on any of the other 3 teams he's been on ....that's not a a narrative.
It’s been a narrative 😂😂 had Kd not went to GS, GS wasn’t winning another ring maybe UNTIL 2022, 2022 was free bands, that was up for grabs, that wasn’t a given year, GS weren’t outright title favs in 2022 and in 2015? I mean we remember who didn’t play that whole series 😂Draymond green said HIMSELF he called KD and he KD came and helped them win 2 straight, ya really believe GS was beating The Cavs without KD? 😂😂😂
@@PaperChaserLa I can't say if GS would have won 2 stragiht without KD. That would be speculation about what would have happened. One could speculate that if Draymond didn't go down(suspended I think), they beat the CAVS in that series. The facts are GS was a championship team before KD. They were a championship team with KD. They were a championship team after KD. That's documented. What's also documented is that KD has not led a team to or won a championship in OKC, Bklyn or Phx. None of that is a narrative.
What? KD always gets his credit as a contributor, but people questioned his legitimacy of being able to be a first option. Similarly to how Steph was credited for his championships, but people questioned the legitimacy of how good he was without a FMVP.
The issue is the warriors didn't need KD they win it if draymond doesn't act dumb. Adding KD to that team that was already better wasn't fair
No they had two more games after Draymond returned to win. Yall make lame excuses for everything
We don't know of they win with draymond. They lost with him
So why did draymond say they needed him and wouldn't have won 2017 without him?
@@Gi-or8bk Draymond played two more games and still lost
Don’t forget iggy and bogut was hurt an curry was damn near on one leg so
Any all-star play that golden state had added to that roster would have put them over their top. They played a style of basketball that was ahead of the league.
Cap they was up 3-1 and lost they had too get kd there was no other superstar available or star too beat bron
@DeionSimmons-d8o CAP, what you talking about. DeRozan and Beal were free agents. Any of those two guys would have put GS over the top to win the championship. They were up 3-1 before Green miss game 5.
How is Ray Allen not the same but you mentioning Ron harpers and Dennis rodmans. Gil be going to hard for Lebron
Yeah a 37 year old Ray Allen near retirement it's the equivalent of the 73-9 warriors getting the best player in the world, the math checks up perfectly. Y'all ridiculous 😂
Ray was almost retired. Are you dumb as hell?
You already know, Gil has the cape on ready to defend LeBron
Right because Ray Allen was carrying teams and was in his prime from Seattle put in a freezer and was in his prime for Miami but old for Boston lol as long as it has something to do with LeBron and teammates they were all in their prime remember that
@@ChrisJoestarrray was still in prime 377 lmfaoo good one 😂😂😂😂😂😂 if you still in prime its no excuses