Shaq was most spot on when he said steph curry has ruined the game. His fraudulent success tricked everyone into thinking shooting nothing but 3s is how you win. It isn’t unless your teammates defend, rebound, facilitate, and lead for you like curry's have fir him. Curry is a role player because he's an average player with one skill.
@@tomevers6670When Magic Johnson and the very best nba players say he is a PG I will trust them instead of you. You have a right to an opinion even if it is wrong. He can be a Shooting Guard when he needs to be. 9 to 10 assist average is a real thing. He has played point his entire career. A scoring point is a thing.
He's an avg player with one skill. He ranks 47th in apg. He's barely in the top 20 ppg rankings, and it's primarily because he scores half his points from 3. Without the 3, curry wouldn't avg 20 ppg. That's not true for every legit superstar player ever.
The reason Steph can be underrated (although he probably isn't anymore) is that he doesn't have much of a superstar ego. Letting KD to thrive, letting Green to run the offense. The story where he scored 0 in a game in college is really telling. Ultimately his greatest legacy is not the shots or mvps or records. It's taking a team that has been a non factor for decades and turning it into a dynasty. Only MJ, maybe Duncan can claim a similar impact. He changed the game but he really changed the Warriors as a club, singlehandedly.
The difference between MJ and Steph imo is, Steph is approachable and genuinely cares about people. He really is a nice guy and family man. I truly love that about him. He actually also cares about the kids who look up to him. He sets an example. We need more players to do that for kids, husbands and fathers…. Oh and he just happens to be one of the (in a list of others from different eras) greatest basketball players who ever played the game.
Duncan didn't do that. He had David Robinson and other greats on his first ring team. Only MJ the God has done that. And who was on MJ's team? Curry's coach. haha
He rode on the backs of his teammates who defended tatum and brown in ways he couldn't, rebounded over an injured robert williams in ways he couldn't, and scored in ways he couldn't later in the series. Wiggins was the real fmvp. He played more 4th qtr minutes and had a bigger impact on the games they won than curry did. 2022 was another example of how curry needs more help around him than any legit superstar ever. Without durant curry would only have that 2015 fluke ring.
@columbus-10-10 he's an avg player with 1 skill who plays like a girl. Only men can be king. Curry is a queen. That's why he's not the leader of the team. He needed permission from the real leader of the warriors, draymond, to give that speech before game 7 against the kings. His speech was so effective that the team had their worst game of the series. They only won cause Fox had a broken finger, and monk had an off shooting night. This year's warriors team will finish 7th in the standings and lose in the play-in, just like last year.
He dont need to be in the conversation, cos even the blind can tell that its jealousy killing most people, Steph has it all and deep in them hearts everyone knows how good and great Curry is.
No player who relies the 3 for half their pts is a great player. Curry wouldn't avg 20 ppg without the 3. That's not true for every legit superstar player ever. Curry is statistically an avg player with one skill.
@@DEVILISHLY_DELICIOUS While he “averages 20 pts per game”, per your post, his mere presence on the floor creates “problems” for the opponent. They must try to double him when he DOES get the ball passed to him, or suffer the consequences. Any team that takes him or his skill lightly “usually” suffers the consequences and learning from their mistakes. If I’m wrong, please let know what the average is of opposing teams win rate when they don’t double him.
@TheMmi43 he's never been the reason the warriors won. He's always needed more help around him than every legit superstar in the league. If the salary cap didn't go up 35% in in the 2016 off-season, the warriors wouldn't have been able to aquire Durant without giving up klay, draymond, or curry. They weren't going to do that. That means Durant would've stayed in Okc, and the cavs would've won it all in 2017 and 2018. And, the warriors would've never aquire Wiggins because they needed to trade Durant to do it. That means they don't win in 2022. Curry should only have that 2015 fluke ring. He's an avg player with one skill who has never carried the warriors, even when he scored 43 in Boston, or 50 is sac.
Wonder if Steph could do that vs Bad Boys or lakers 2001 .Even SAS said he wont be able to shoot so much 3 s . I still remember when Levin Love stopped him from shooting 3s in game 7
I've watched both Magics and Currys whole careers. Magic was my favorite player growing up and Curry has been my favorite since Magic retired. The craziest thing is that they both completely revolutionized the way the game is played. Magic was the greatest passer that has ever played and Curry is the best shooter. The 2 biggest things that comparisons impossible is that their playing styles are so different that you can't directly compare stats, and also the rules have changed so much that the game is completely different. I mean imagine Magic running showtime now, that would be crazy. On the flip side, everybody thinks the old NBA would have been to tough physically for Steph, but I disagree. There were lots of really successful off the ball shooters then. Allen Houston, Dale Ellis, Ray Allen... but the thing that they were more Klay Thompsonish. I think about what would have defenses done with Steph runnin around knockin down 38ft'ers off the dribble at 40% in the age of the dominant big man. There wasn't anybody even close to that level of shooter in the league then.
Yea, I wouldnt put magic before him. Magic was closer to a Lebron in stature, and a dominant facilitator. Nobody shooting like steph. He adapted and overcame being a smaller less gifted athlete than the rest of the league, and it changed the game.
@@brianmacleod4649 Magic and Steph are from different eras, but played the same position. Steph is a better shooter than Magic, but doesn’t facilitate the game the way Magic did.
@@hunterhenryk I guess in theory it’s possible, but speed wise and shooting wise Majic might suffer and if Curry played in Majic’s era, speed wise he’d run circles around them, but the physicality would be a huge problem against him.
if we are talking about modern TEAM basketball, you're 100% right. however, there's always going to be some dummy out there that says he's not because he wouldn't beat kobe or lebron 1 on 1.
@ have you ever watched any of his videos or seen him play. If you did you would have a different opinion. I watched him play. I'm assuming you have not educated yourself to history of Bird.
IMO one problem with the whole Steph vs Magic "who is the better point guard" discussion is how the league has changed and how the two of them approach their roles on the team in very different ways. Steph is what they used to call a "combo guard" -- a combination of point guard and shooting guard. He uses Draymond as a kind of "point forward" when, sometimes, he's in shooting guard mode. I'll go further and state that nowadays offensive positioning on the floor is so fluid and expansive that the old "five position" BB descriptions hardly apply -- you know -- point guard, shooting guard, small forward, power forward and center. Nowitzki and others pioneered the big man 3-point shot...Steph made a new kind of guard...Pippen first, and then LeBron charted the "point forward," and so on (Man, LeBron can play any position!). It makes it hard to compare NBA eras and determine "top 5" or "top 10" players ever. I love the great players of today, but I can tell you one thing: the great players of yesteryear would have adapted to today's game and been just as good. They would have adapted through better conditioning, developed even more intense defense, learned to become better 3-point shooters, all the way around. Jordan, who showed he could shoot the 3 vs Portland in that final, would today be a great 3-point shooter.
Steph is only underrated because people don't understand how Mentality affects the game. People don't understand how his ability to put you uncomfortable situations on the court helps out the team and his weaknesses not be weaknesses. This is why people are always disappointed and don't get why Steph wins.
Steph is still so underrated .. this man is the best shooter god ever created .. he’s done it all and it’s past time people put respect on my man’s name
The people in GOAT convo or even top 10 are two way players and they're mostly big, forwards, centers and two sg who. It's hard to compare Steph to them, cuz as great as Steph's offense is, he isn't a good defender like his peers. But the thing is a small guard, who is smaller and weaker than most manages to be in the convo for GOAT or top 10, shows how good of a player he really is.
Steph hit that look-away logo 3 in the All-Star game while staring down Trey. He better "put some respek" on his name. 1ove to the Ripkens for all they have contributed to America's past-time. The original Iron Man, Cal Ripken Jr.🙌🏽
I’ll never take anything away from Kyrie , to me his game is more like AI , than Steph’s is . But to me Steph is just special , his shooting ability is a given , but his passes are insane , his worth ethic , his ability to stay in control during chaos , he’s humble , classy , and an all around good dude . What more can you ask from a person ? Kyrie is great , Steph stands alone .
Steph doesnt need anyone's confirmation or approval if he is the GOAT PG or Not. He knows where he stands.And He just does what he loves, shoot..and he is the best at it.
The only short guy in the top ten. Mostly six foot nine and above. The only exceptions: Curry, Jordon and Kobe. Really really tough for a guy six foot two to dominate in today's NBA.
@@ritchievernon80996’4” is a stretch. 6’2 maybe 6’3 on a good day ~6’6” is the average nba player ~6’4” is the average guard He’s tall as a person but like in comparison to the other greats and other nba players he’s probably the shortest player in most people’s t20 players list.
People who say Steph isn't a Goat are clueless and definitely not real basketball fans. The only other players that had such an immense impact on the game itself were Jordan, Kobe and LeBron. And now Steph is one of them. Steph turned GSW into one of the most profitable teams in the NBA - a frigging dynasty from a team that used to be mediocre at best! Steph changed the NBA single handedly. Steph changed the frigging game of basketball, again - single handedly. How many people can you name that have done the same throughout the history of basketball. Yeah that's right - Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James and Stephen Curry.
He’s on top of the mountain and that is one hell of an accomplishment, for his size, but the doubters motivated him, would he be so great if he was bigger idk? I think his size was his biggest strength, he stayed humble and that’s a super power, being a good man to go with it means more then the stats
Shots made from behind the center court line should be worth at least 4 pts, maybe even 5. How can it still be 3 pts when it's way beyond the 3 pt line? I believe this should be the next rule change, or evolution, in order to make the game more exciting. Suddenly, a 4 or 5 pt lead isn't a two possession game any longer. Imagine all the insanity this would create in the final seconds of a close game. We'll see how guys & coaches adapt to it, especially Steph.
curry evolved from where he started he keeps getting better and better plus he's really fit on off the fittest players check his movement with the ball and without the ball and how fast he goes
I think they are 2 different kind of GOATS. MJ gave rise to the Kobe’s , and slasher type players and Curry will give rise to shooters this league has never seen before
I remember when we played the clippers in the playoffs like five, six years ago and he had zero points in the first half and finished the game with 33 points and we won. I’m telling you right now that man is not human
it was game 6 vs houston when kd broke the achillies. Singlehandedly won the game and the series and finished the houston dinasty with that second half
He is working harder now than he did 10 years ago. I think Steph has a deep respect for basketball history. He undestands it may be decades before some of his records are broken. He is embracing longevity and no reduction in his drive, determination, sacrifice. All for the good of the team. Team First. Championships. Relentless. He will likely get another.
It's absolutely hilarious how when LBJ scored the last 11 points in the earlier games they was saying LBJ is the best player outta all of them and he's 39 carrying the U.S. team 😂😂😂😂😂 CHECK THIS OUT!!!! When Steph scored 36 points 9 rebounds 8 assists all the media was saying how " Lebron and Steph" saved the U.S. in the semi-finals like WTF!!!! Are u fucking kidding me???? WTF DID LEBRON HAVE TO DO WITH THOSE STATS STEPH PUT UP AND HE SINGLE-HANDEDLY WON THE LAST 2 GAMES FOR THE U.S. BUT ALL THE HEADLINES HAD LBJ NAME ALONG WITH STEPHS NAME AND LBJ WAS THE LOWEST SCORER OF ALL THE STARTERS IN THOSE LAST 2 GAMES AND HAD MULTIPLE TURNOVERS SMMFH YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP!!!!
living rent free. LMAO calm down kid. if LBJ was not there those last 2 games wont even happen. stop being insecure mf. steph is a legend, end of the debate.
I said the same thing but that last shot in the Olympics will go down in history all over the world. From what I hear France thinking taken their curry sauce away about ta
Well it is the same like saying Curry is a top 10 player...... why? best defenders in GSW team first championship, first green, second Klay and third Iguadala, according to GSW fans Iguadala stopped Lebron and that's why Iguadala won finals MVP, because if Iguadala didn't stop Lebron, Cavs would have won, then Iguadala gave Curry his first championship right there. Second and third GSW championship, best defenders , first green, second KD, third Klay, fourth Iguadala Curry has been carried defensively his whole career. What is the most pressure playoffs series? the finals right? the whole basketball world have all their eyes on you and also it's the championship series, Kobe's fans AND Curry's fans try to diminish, finals MVP, why? the most pressure playoff series it's the finals series and it's the championship series a d Kobe only won 2 MVPs on the most pressure playoff series, the finals and Curry only won one MVP on the most pressure playoff series and championship series that diminish their legacies, both Kobe and Curry.
As much as I love Magic, I can't not put Steph above him. Steph is one of the 5 greatest players I've ever seen. Take any bad NBA team you can imagine from any era and, if you could replace only the PG, would it be with Magic or Steph and for me it's Steph 100% of the time. There's few other players period I would take in such a situation and that list includes the likes of Shaq and Jordan.
I saw a video a while back (I think it was an older @bballbreakdown video?) about how Steph's shooting mechanics are remarkably consistent and pure just from like the diaphragm up. Ostensibly, his lower body can be doing whatever, completely off balance, kicking his legs; he can be drifting. His follow through can be just crumpling into a ball. But he has this uncanny practiced ability to get his shoulders square to the basket mid-shot like he has a gyroscope in his torso. It was interesting.
Steph is the greatest player at the pg position of all time. Not the best traditional point guard but he’s most effective running off the ball. He can facilitate but he’s the greatest shooter to ever exist with a motor that we’ve never seen before.
Greatest Points Guard of all time. There’s a difference. Changed the game. It’s a shortlist of people who did that. Mikan Russell Wilt Kareem Magic Michael Lebron Steph Jokic? TBD on him
You got life and bullshit mixed up. Why does he need another championship? He has 4 already… plus every other NBA award except defensive player awards. He punked Wemby, who is more than a foot taller than him. Quit playing 😂
@@shrenikchopra1921 yep I wonder as well….what will they say now? My guess is not one dam word. Steph shut them up for the old criticism and future criticism.
@@kouani1995 same argument goes for lebron with dwade, chris bosh first 2 ; doesn't mean he couldn't win without them but did he look at kd man without curry
Steph Curry is on the short list of greatest of all time. For now on the greatest of all time list needs to be in position categories. PG, SG, SF, PF, C. He is the greatest PG of all time.
Steph is the GOAT in his division, as he is the only player besides MJ to have changed the paradigm of basketball. Before Steph, people thought three-point shooters were boring. Now, no one says that.
I mean, we are seeing another version of Magic in Lebron, and even Luka is looking like that. But we have not seen another version of Steph like ever. People liked to push Trae to be the "next Steph" but he aint even close.
As Stephen Curry said when he got drafted, “ To play the game the Right way “. That he did, Stephen plays the game his way. When you have Faith, his say, “I can do all things through Christ who Strengthens me “ Phil 4:13
I watched Steph at Davidson I knew he was a great shooter but I didn't think he get to the level he is at... Mark Jackson tried to tell us and HE WASNT WRONG AT ALLLLLLL
This is (yet) ANOTHER thing that sets the ORIGINAL Dream Team apart from every other Olympic basketball team. Michael Jordan didn't NEED to put up crazy numbers for them to win.
@@antonquirgst2812 It doesn't matter how much "better" they've supposedly gotten. The original Dream Team would STILL dominate over these Olympic teams today. Everyone always seems to want to claim that players now are all better than they were back then, like players (now) are breaking all kinds of records that were set by previous generations. Need I remind you that the original Dream Team had the NBA's ALL-TIME Leader in both steals AND assists? The original Dream Team had Michael Jordan. No need to say much else about that. The original Dream Team had Magic AND Bird. In fact, think about the caliber of talent on THAT team and tell me which modern team could (HONESTLY) match up with them.
@@kalon511 this dream team could most certainly go against them. And for the first part of ur argument: you dont know that. This dream team had the all time leading scorer on their roster. You don't know that the original dream team would dominate. Thats an assumption.
@@antonquirgst2812 Then, I'm guessing you wouldn't mind explaining why Steph Curry had to bail them out by HIMSELF? I'm MORE than sure that if Michael Jordan had spent more than 20 years in the league, that scoring record would've been a bit difficult to beat. There's no telling how many more championships he would've won. The original Dream Team beat the teams THEY were playing against by rather large margins. Magic Johnson wasn't exactly a "trash talker", but Bird and Jordan were. They could ALSO - BACKUP their "trash talk" for the most part. With guys who had the ability to tell you BEFOREHAND where they were going to shoot from or how many points they'd score on you at any given time, how can you (HONESTLY) make the claim that this team would stand a chance against the original Dream Team? Did you even take the time to watch and notice how THIS Olympic team was playing defense? How do you think they GOT in trouble to the point whereas Curry had to save them? If I'm not mistaken, those French announcers said CURRY was "the devil that kills them", not that team.
@@kalon511 once again: the fact that the original dream team beat their opponents by rather large margins is due to the fact their competition was weaker rel. to them. (Thus the large margins!) Their comp. was weaker rel. to them than the recents dream teams competition was/is to this dream team. You calim this is due to this dream team being worse than the original one. I am claiming this is due to this dream teams competition being stronger (aka the world has caught up a lot since the 90s in terms of skill. Anargument furhter strengened by the fact that there are more europian players in the nba than ever before). I am saying I dont believe the original dream team was so much better if at all than this team and the fact that they were struggeling is not the resault of this teams weaker line up, rather than their competition being better. (for example Serbia having the best all around BB of the world on their roster).
Its hard to compare steph with the greatest point guards, cause its not what we see a point guard doing. In the traditional sense he is not. If he plays the classic PG role he is too turnover prone and is not strategic enough. However he does it the gravity way. He still gets a ton of players indirectly open, while shooting on an insane clip. Nobody ever done it this way, so a comparison is hard, but i would say he is top 5 in PGs… but probably him and Magic the best in uniquely incomparable ways.
With those two talents, they're both up there. Its a matter of preference. They both gonna destroy the opposing guard. Just, how you want it? They both can shoot lights out, they both harsh on opposing ankles, they both can finish at the rim against bigs. Itd be dope if their assist numbers were a bit higher tho, but whatever. Enjoy watching them play. Definitely going to be missed when they decide to retire.
What yall fail to realize is Steph can be a facilitator and he can be the primary ball handler the thing is teams fear him so much they send double teams at half court which will make the game very inefficient for the warriors! So he moves off ball and lets draymond facilitate
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Who did you think was MOST spot on about Steph Curry?
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He is tho curry is really one of the best shooter I ever saw 😂 he got 4 rings nd mvp nd gold model lol 😆 kyrie only got one ring
His constant movement that wears down anyone trying to guard him ..and he scores from anywhere on the court
Shaq was most spot on when he said steph curry has ruined the game. His fraudulent success tricked everyone into thinking shooting nothing but 3s is how you win. It isn’t unless your teammates defend, rebound, facilitate, and lead for you like curry's have fir him. Curry is a role player because he's an average player with one skill.
Bahaha, have you ever watched basketball before? What an absolute idiot.@@DEVILISHLY_DELICIOUS
Saying Steph is one of the greatest “point guards” of all time is an insult. He’s one of the greatest PLAYERS of all time.
He's both
He’s a shooting guard.
@@tomevers6670When Magic Johnson and the very best nba players say he is a PG I will trust them instead of you. You have a right to an opinion even if it is wrong. He can be a Shooting Guard when he needs to be. 9 to 10 assist average is a real thing. He has played point his entire career. A scoring point is a thing.
I second this very easily. Talk it
He's an avg player with one skill. He ranks 47th in apg. He's barely in the top 20 ppg rankings, and it's primarily because he scores half his points from 3. Without the 3, curry wouldn't avg 20 ppg. That's not true for every legit superstar player ever.
The reason Steph can be underrated (although he probably isn't anymore) is that he doesn't have much of a superstar ego. Letting KD to thrive, letting Green to run the offense. The story where he scored 0 in a game in college is really telling. Ultimately his greatest legacy is not the shots or mvps or records. It's taking a team that has been a non factor for decades and turning it into a dynasty. Only MJ, maybe Duncan can claim a similar impact. He changed the game but he really changed the Warriors as a club, singlehandedly.
Well said bro
The difference between MJ and Steph imo is, Steph is approachable and genuinely cares about people. He really is a nice guy and family man. I truly love that about him. He actually also cares about the kids who look up to him. He sets an example. We need more players to do that for kids, husbands and fathers…. Oh and he just happens to be one of the (in a list of others from different eras) greatest basketball players who ever played the game.
Spurs went from Robinson > Duncan > Wemby. Pop ain't ever retiring 😂
Duncan didn't do that. He had David Robinson and other greats on his first ring team. Only MJ the God has done that. And who was on MJ's team? Curry's coach. haha
well said 👍
What he did to the Celtics in 2022 was legendary.
In Boston house!!fans quiet
He rode on the backs of his teammates who defended tatum and brown in ways he couldn't, rebounded over an injured robert williams in ways he couldn't, and scored in ways he couldn't later in the series. Wiggins was the real fmvp. He played more 4th qtr minutes and had a bigger impact on the games they won than curry did. 2022 was another example of how curry needs more help around him than any legit superstar ever. Without durant curry would only have that 2015 fluke ring.
@@DEVILISHLY_DELICIOUS swallow your ego,steph is the king.Your name say's it all.
@columbus-10-10 he's an avg player with 1 skill who plays like a girl. Only men can be king. Curry is a queen. That's why he's not the leader of the team. He needed permission from the real leader of the warriors, draymond, to give that speech before game 7 against the kings. His speech was so effective that the team had their worst game of the series. They only won cause Fox had a broken finger, and monk had an off shooting night. This year's warriors team will finish 7th in the standings and lose in the play-in, just like last year.
@columbus-10-10 my name is nonsensical. It means nothing. Whatever you think it means is coming from you. It's not something I'm projecting.
He dont need to be in the conversation, cos even the blind can tell that its jealousy killing most people, Steph has it all and deep in them hearts everyone knows how good and great Curry is.
TRUTH ❤
Steph is best
No player who relies the 3 for half their pts is a great player. Curry wouldn't avg 20 ppg without the 3. That's not true for every legit superstar player ever. Curry is statistically an avg player with one skill.
@@DEVILISHLY_DELICIOUS While he “averages 20 pts per game”, per your post, his mere presence on the floor creates “problems” for the opponent. They must try to double him when he DOES get the ball passed to him, or suffer the consequences. Any team that takes him or his skill lightly “usually” suffers the consequences and learning from their mistakes. If I’m wrong, please let know what the average is of opposing teams win rate when they don’t double him.
@TheMmi43 he's never been the reason the warriors won. He's always needed more help around him than every legit superstar in the league. If the salary cap didn't go up 35% in in the 2016 off-season, the warriors wouldn't have been able to aquire Durant without giving up klay, draymond, or curry. They weren't going to do that. That means Durant would've stayed in Okc, and the cavs would've won it all in 2017 and 2018. And, the warriors would've never aquire Wiggins because they needed to trade Durant to do it. That means they don't win in 2022. Curry should only have that 2015 fluke ring. He's an avg player with one skill who has never carried the warriors, even when he scored 43 in Boston, or 50 is sac.
Not only he is the greatest shooter but also the most SKILLFUL And tactical player of all time NBA Needs such player's
Wonder if Steph could do that vs Bad Boys or lakers 2001 .Even SAS said he wont be able to shoot so much 3 s . I still remember when Levin Love stopped him from shooting 3s in game 7
I've watched both Magics and Currys whole careers. Magic was my favorite player growing up and Curry has been my favorite since Magic retired. The craziest thing is that they both completely revolutionized the way the game is played. Magic was the greatest passer that has ever played and Curry is the best shooter. The 2 biggest things that comparisons impossible is that their playing styles are so different that you can't directly compare stats, and also the rules have changed so much that the game is completely different. I mean imagine Magic running showtime now, that would be crazy. On the flip side, everybody thinks the old NBA would have been to tough physically for Steph, but I disagree. There were lots of really successful off the ball shooters then. Allen Houston, Dale Ellis, Ray Allen... but the thing that they were more Klay Thompsonish. I think about what would have defenses done with Steph runnin around knockin down 38ft'ers off the dribble at 40% in the age of the dominant big man. There wasn't anybody even close to that level of shooter in the league then.
Curry is Bad Man all the time. Congratulations Curry and team USA Winning Gold medals this year 2024.
if there’s only one choice , ONE point guard , ALL time ..
it’ll be Steph Curry for me 🏆🙌🥇
Yea, I wouldnt put magic before him. Magic was closer to a Lebron in stature, and a dominant facilitator. Nobody shooting like steph. He adapted and overcame being a smaller less gifted athlete than the rest of the league, and it changed the game.
Magic is the better PG but Steph is the better player. His scoring, gravity and ball handling far exceed Magics ability to distribute the ball.
@@brianmacleod4649 Magic and Steph are from different eras, but played the same position.
Steph is a better shooter than Magic, but doesn’t facilitate the game the way Magic did.
Well, if you're going to have an oversized PG like Magic, you can afford to have an undersized SG like Curry.
@@hunterhenryk I guess in theory it’s possible, but speed wise and shooting wise Majic might suffer and if Curry played in Majic’s era, speed wise he’d run circles around them, but the physicality would be a huge problem against him.
@@TheMmi43Magic’s era didn’t have good perimeter defence. Curry would rain more 3s in that era
@@ndnd7614 I agree to a point on whether he would “rain” threes. The game was slower back then and the players were bigger body wise and height wise.
Guys I’m going to be the only one to say this Curry is the best player in the NBA He is the best player in the world and is fax
Ill be with you
He is the best NBA player. Best ball handling, best shooting ability,
if we are talking about modern TEAM basketball, you're 100% right. however, there's always going to be some dummy out there that says he's not because he wouldn't beat kobe or lebron 1 on 1.
ditto
Nope I've said it a long time before this comment was made so I was probably the first to say it
Steph has been the best point guard of all time since 2016
Moving without the ball was what made Bird so dangerous too. I love watching Steph play.
Curry and bird shouldnt be in the same sentence. Bird is trash
@ have you ever watched any of his videos or seen him play. If you did you would have a different opinion. I watched him play. I'm assuming you have not educated yourself to history of Bird.
@DeborahBuffington naw we are done with the 80s. All them old heads are trash compared to now.
Curry does it all! He is the excitement, bringing the NBA to the next level!
IMO one problem with the whole Steph vs Magic "who is the better point guard" discussion is how the league has changed and how the two of them approach their roles on the team in very different ways. Steph is what they used to call a "combo guard" -- a combination of point guard and shooting guard. He uses Draymond as a kind of "point forward" when, sometimes, he's in shooting guard mode. I'll go further and state that nowadays offensive positioning on the floor is so fluid and expansive that the old "five position" BB descriptions hardly apply -- you know -- point guard, shooting guard, small forward, power forward and center. Nowitzki and others pioneered the big man 3-point shot...Steph made a new kind of guard...Pippen first, and then LeBron charted the "point forward," and so on (Man, LeBron can play any position!). It makes it hard to compare NBA eras and determine "top 5" or "top 10" players ever. I love the great players of today, but I can tell you one thing: the great players of yesteryear would have adapted to today's game and been just as good. They would have adapted through better conditioning, developed even more intense defense, learned to become better 3-point shooters, all the way around. Jordan, who showed he could shoot the 3 vs Portland in that final, would today be a great 3-point shooter.
@@ordinarypeople20 correct on all points😉
Magic goat PG in pure facilitating and intangibles, Steph goat PG in pure scoring and efficiency
Opposite sides of the same coin
Steph is only underrated because people don't understand how Mentality affects the game. People don't understand how his ability to put you uncomfortable situations on the court helps out the team and his weaknesses not be weaknesses. This is why people are always disappointed and don't get why Steph wins.
People,the media,the tallest.players cant accept that a skinny player can be on top in nba history
Appreciate the Andrew bogut love
Yessir fr same bro
Where tf was even Andrew bogut didn’t even see him!?
It's such a shame that the stats don't show the percentage of nothing-but-nets from Steph! It's beautiful, unique and insane!
yeah, if steph makes a rattler, he considers it a bad shot.
When Coach kerr asked Ant man to do stephens work out. He nearly passed out.😂😂😂
Steph is still so underrated .. this man is the best shooter god ever created .. he’s done it all and it’s past time people put respect on my man’s name
The people in GOAT convo or even top 10 are two way players and they're mostly big, forwards, centers and two sg who. It's hard to compare Steph to them, cuz as great as Steph's offense is, he isn't a good defender like his peers. But the thing is a small guard, who is smaller and weaker than most manages to be in the convo for GOAT or top 10, shows how good of a player he really is.
Steph hit that look-away logo 3 in the All-Star game while staring down Trey. He better "put some respek" on his name.
1ove to the Ripkens for all they have contributed to America's past-time. The original Iron Man, Cal Ripken Jr.🙌🏽
saying steph is better than kyrie is like saying magic johnson is better than kyle kuzma, why are u even putting them in the same sentence 🤦
why they even comparing steph to kyrie, steph way more better than kyrie. Not even on steph’s level.
tell me more about why kyrie is better than steph except kyrie’s handles?
Lol you are right. because steph is WAY lot better than kyrie.
Steph, Magic, and kyrie are all point guards. That's what puts them in the same sentence.
Kyle kuzma is NOT a point guard.
Lol kyrie is sucks steph is too far from kyrie look what he is accomplished stop talking nonsense clown.
I’ll never take anything away from Kyrie , to me his game is more like AI , than Steph’s is .
But to me Steph is just special , his shooting ability is a given , but his passes are insane , his worth ethic , his ability to stay in control during chaos , he’s humble , classy , and an all around good dude . What more can you ask from a person ? Kyrie is great , Steph stands alone .
Regarding off-the-ball play: In chess we say, "The threat is stronger than the execution."
Dope line... Thanks! I am going to add it to vocabulary repotoir.
@@modolief I love that expression! It fits perfectly for Steph!!!
Steph doesnt need anyone's confirmation or approval if he is the GOAT PG or Not. He knows where he stands.And He just does what he loves, shoot..and he is the best at it.
The only short guy in the top ten. Mostly six foot nine and above. The only exceptions: Curry, Jordon and Kobe. Really really tough for a guy six foot two to dominate in today's NBA.
True and they cant accept it specially the media and the big.men
I heard Curry was 6-4? That's not short by today's NBA! Especially for a point guard or a shooting guard or a combo guard!
@@ritchievernon80996’4” is a stretch. 6’2 maybe 6’3 on a good day
~6’6” is the average nba player
~6’4” is the average guard
He’s tall as a person but like in comparison to the other greats and other nba players he’s probably the shortest player in most people’s t20 players list.
Nobody can be compared to Steph 'coz he is miles away from them. Nobody comes close.
People who say Steph isn't a Goat are clueless and definitely not real basketball fans. The only other players that had such an immense impact on the game itself were Jordan, Kobe and LeBron. And now Steph is one of them. Steph turned GSW into one of the most profitable teams in the NBA - a frigging dynasty from a team that used to be mediocre at best! Steph changed the NBA single handedly. Steph changed the frigging game of basketball, again - single handedly. How many people can you name that have done the same throughout the history of basketball. Yeah that's right - Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James and Stephen Curry.
The best 3-point shooter in nba history.
He’s on top of the mountain and that is one hell of an accomplishment, for his size, but the doubters motivated him, would he be so great if he was bigger idk? I think his size was his biggest strength, he stayed humble and that’s a super power, being a good man to go with it means more then the stats
4:31 Lebron: eyes on Steph, not the ball 😂
look at these clips in the background man, its just mental how well he shoots the ball given his shot selection. One of one talent
Shots made from behind the center court line should be worth at least 4 pts, maybe even 5. How can it still be 3 pts when it's way beyond the 3 pt line? I believe this should be the next rule change, or evolution, in order to make the game more exciting. Suddenly, a 4 or 5 pt lead isn't a two possession game any longer. Imagine all the insanity this would create in the final seconds of a close game. We'll see how guys & coaches adapt to it, especially Steph.
curry evolved from where he started he keeps getting better and better plus he's really fit on off the fittest players check his movement with the ball and without the ball and how fast he goes
Enough already guys! Steph is the greatest shooter n point guard period
i will say he is THE SHOOTING of GOAT
Sneaking in Andrew Bogut as one of the Goats Richard Jefferson has played with is crazy work lol
i never watched MJ play, so for me, steph is the greatest player ever.
That’s my story, Steph is the greatest ever. He gets me who doesn’t watch any sports to watch golden state warriors highlights
@@jermainewaldenI’ve seen them both MJ is better, Curry and MJ are my favorite players ever, I’ve been watching since the 80’s Curry is top 5 for me
I think they are 2 different kind of GOATS. MJ gave rise to the Kobe’s , and slasher type players and Curry will give rise to shooters this league has never seen before
Steph or Magic is like LeBron or Jordan argument... can't go wrong with either. All about what individuals value or the team they wanna build.
I remember when we played the clippers in the playoffs like five, six years ago and he had zero points in the first half and finished the game with 33 points and we won. I’m telling you right now that man is not human
it was game 6 vs houston when kd broke the achillies. Singlehandedly won the game and the series and finished the houston dinasty with that second half
He is working harder now than he did 10 years ago.
I think Steph has a deep respect for basketball history.
He undestands it may be decades before some of his records are broken. He is embracing longevity and no reduction in his drive, determination, sacrifice.
All for the good of the team. Team First. Championships. Relentless. He will likely get another.
"Nuit Nuit" was that part the French hated the most
It's absolutely hilarious how when LBJ scored the last 11 points in the earlier games they was saying LBJ is the best player outta all of them and he's 39 carrying the U.S. team 😂😂😂😂😂
CHECK THIS OUT!!!!
When Steph scored 36 points 9 rebounds 8 assists all the media was saying how " Lebron and Steph" saved the U.S. in the semi-finals like WTF!!!! Are u fucking kidding me???? WTF DID LEBRON HAVE TO DO WITH THOSE STATS STEPH PUT UP AND HE SINGLE-HANDEDLY WON THE LAST 2 GAMES FOR THE U.S. BUT ALL THE HEADLINES HAD LBJ NAME ALONG WITH STEPHS NAME AND LBJ WAS THE LOWEST SCORER OF ALL THE STARTERS IN THOSE LAST 2 GAMES AND HAD MULTIPLE TURNOVERS SMMFH
YOU CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP!!!!
living rent free. LMAO calm down kid. if LBJ was not there those last 2 games wont even happen. stop being insecure mf. steph is a legend, end of the debate.
I said the same thing but that last shot in the Olympics will go down in history all over the world. From what I hear France thinking taken their curry sauce away about ta
Media people is all for lebron all the time.i dont know why they are praising him so.much...
@@piningrosal7632 me either frfr
Well it is the same like saying Curry is a top 10 player...... why?
best defenders in GSW team first championship, first green, second Klay and third Iguadala, according to GSW fans Iguadala stopped Lebron and that's why Iguadala won finals MVP, because if Iguadala didn't stop Lebron, Cavs would have won, then Iguadala gave Curry his first championship right there.
Second and third GSW championship, best defenders , first green, second KD, third Klay, fourth Iguadala
Curry has been carried defensively his whole career.
What is the most pressure playoffs series? the finals right? the whole basketball world have all their eyes on you and also it's the championship series, Kobe's fans AND Curry's fans try to diminish, finals MVP, why? the most pressure playoff series it's the finals series and it's the championship series a d Kobe only won 2 MVPs on the most pressure playoff series, the finals and Curry only won one MVP on the most pressure playoff series and championship series that diminish their legacies, both Kobe and Curry.
As much as I love Magic, I can't not put Steph above him. Steph is one of the 5 greatest players I've ever seen. Take any bad NBA team you can imagine from any era and, if you could replace only the PG, would it be with Magic or Steph and for me it's Steph 100% of the time. There's few other players period I would take in such a situation and that list includes the likes of Shaq and Jordan.
I saw a video a while back (I think it was an older @bballbreakdown video?) about how Steph's shooting mechanics are remarkably consistent and pure just from like the diaphragm up. Ostensibly, his lower body can be doing whatever, completely off balance, kicking his legs; he can be drifting. His follow through can be just crumpling into a ball. But he has this uncanny practiced ability to get his shoulders square to the basket mid-shot like he has a gyroscope in his torso. It was interesting.
Steph walks in faith first, that's why he's so good. 😊
Curry made me love basketball
He is someone i want to do like
Steph is the greatest player at the pg position of all time. Not the best traditional point guard but he’s most effective running off the ball. He can facilitate but he’s the greatest shooter to ever exist with a motor that we’ve never seen before.
Greatest Points Guard of all time. There’s a difference. Changed the game. It’s a shortlist of people who did that.
Mikan
Russell
Wilt
Kareem
Magic
Michael
Lebron
Steph
Jokic? TBD on him
Win another championship 🏆
You got life and bullshit mixed up. Why does he need another championship? He has 4 already… plus every other NBA award except defensive player awards. He punked Wemby, who is more than a foot taller than him. Quit playing 😂
@@TheMmi43 more than LeBron ..... What will they say now? 🤔
@@shrenikchopra1921 yep I wonder as well….what will they say now? My guess is not one dam word. Steph shut them up for the old criticism and future criticism.
@@TheMmi43 you mean 2 and 2 mickey championships? he needs to have another championship to prove that HE can do it without mickey mouse.
@@kouani1995 same argument goes for lebron with dwade, chris bosh first 2 ; doesn't mean he couldn't win without them but did he look at kd man without curry
4:20 so true…you can’t get mad at curry for being as good as he is
Curry is the best in his generation period
Steph Curry is on the short list of greatest of all time. For now on the greatest of all time list needs to be in position categories. PG, SG, SF, PF, C. He is the greatest PG of all time.
2:35 I wanted to hear what Marcus smart said
STEPH CURRY IS THE GOAT!!!🔥🔥🔥
shump wild for saying it like that.
He makes his guard dance like a swan ballet dancer
SC30 THE REAL MVP & GOAT💪👊💪
Steph is the greatest shooter of all time without a doubt. No debate!
Steph is the Goat of Basketball.
How many people literally change the way the game is played? The only one in my lifetime is Steph Curry. Enough said.
@@YerchMcYerchikins that’s a fair argument. Debatable. You can say the same thing about Dirk. Single leg post fade. Stretch 4.
Steph is the GOAT in his division, as he is the only player besides MJ to have changed the paradigm of basketball. Before Steph, people thought three-point shooters were boring. Now, no one says that.
Steph a better shooter, Magic a better passer/rebounder.
Both the 2 best point guards who lead their teams completely differently.
I mean, we are seeing another version of Magic in Lebron, and even Luka is looking like that. But we have not seen another version of Steph like ever. People liked to push Trae to be the "next Steph" but he aint even close.
@@tigera6 no Trey does not have the “drive” like Steph or the work ethic.
Steph🐐
Stephen Curry is more of a combo guard than a point guard
As Stephen Curry said when he got drafted, “ To play the game the Right way “. That he did, Stephen plays the game his way. When you have Faith, his say, “I can do all things through Christ who Strengthens me “ Phil 4:13
Curry shot definitely look better than ray allen
Facts. Beal was absolutely trippin lmao
Ray Allen has the best shot ever
2 more rings and he's permanently in the goat conversation.
His the goat of the shooter and his my idol
If you don't care about scoring more points than your opponent, then choose Magic.
2:53 Jefferson haven’t played yet with Thannanis thooo
Bradley Beal saying Steph doesn’t have a pretty shot is the most insane comment for an nba player to say 😂😂
I was looking for this comment Bradley Beal smoking shark ass
he was saying not the "prettiest" shot... he didnt call it not pretty..
Step and Jordon is my starting backcourt
After 2023, no question that Steph is the greatest PG ever and top 10 Greatest of all time
He ain't have to proof sh** he is the greatest point guard and the greatest shooter in the history of the league period
Steph is hands down the greatest PG of all time.. you can teach magics passing. You cannot teach what Steph does
You need to add Allen Iverson to that conversation as well
I watched Steph at Davidson I knew he was a great shooter but I didn't think he get to the level he is at... Mark Jackson tried to tell us and HE WASNT WRONG AT ALLLLLLL
This is (yet) ANOTHER thing that sets the ORIGINAL Dream Team apart from every other Olympic basketball team. Michael Jordan didn't NEED to put up crazy numbers for them to win.
european BB has gotten better
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It doesn't matter how much "better" they've supposedly gotten. The original Dream Team would STILL dominate over these Olympic teams today.
Everyone always seems to want to claim that players now are all better than they were back then, like players (now) are breaking all kinds of records that were set by previous generations.
Need I remind you that the original Dream Team had the NBA's ALL-TIME Leader in both steals AND assists? The original Dream Team had Michael Jordan. No need to say much else about that. The original Dream Team had Magic AND Bird.
In fact, think about the caliber of talent on THAT team and tell me which modern team could (HONESTLY) match up with them.
@@kalon511 this dream team could most certainly go against them. And for the first part of ur argument: you dont know that. This dream team had the all time leading scorer on their roster. You don't know that the original dream team would dominate. Thats an assumption.
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Then, I'm guessing you wouldn't mind explaining why Steph Curry had to bail them out by HIMSELF? I'm MORE than sure that if Michael Jordan had spent more than 20 years in the league, that scoring record would've been a bit difficult to beat.
There's no telling how many more championships he would've won. The original Dream Team beat the teams THEY were playing against by rather large margins.
Magic Johnson wasn't exactly a "trash talker", but Bird and Jordan were. They could ALSO - BACKUP their "trash talk" for the most part.
With guys who had the ability to tell you BEFOREHAND where they were going to shoot from or how many points they'd score on you at any given time, how can you (HONESTLY) make the claim that this team would stand a chance against the original Dream Team?
Did you even take the time to watch and notice how THIS Olympic team was playing defense? How do you think they GOT in trouble to the point whereas Curry had to save them?
If I'm not mistaken, those French announcers said CURRY was "the devil that kills them", not that team.
@@kalon511 once again: the fact that the original dream team beat their opponents by rather large margins is due to the fact their competition was weaker rel. to them. (Thus the large margins!) Their comp. was weaker rel. to them than the recents dream teams competition was/is to this dream team. You calim this is due to this dream team being worse than the original one. I am claiming this is due to this dream teams competition being stronger (aka the world has caught up a lot since the 90s in terms of skill. Anargument furhter strengened by the fact that there are more europian players in the nba than ever before). I am saying I dont believe the original dream team was so much better if at all than this team and the fact that they were struggeling is not the resault of this teams weaker line up, rather than their competition being better. (for example Serbia having the best all around BB of the world on their roster).
“I ain’t got no legs…”
- Austin “Lieutenant Dan” Reeves
I’m good with it. Agreed.
Its hard to compare steph with the greatest point guards, cause its not what we see a point guard doing. In the traditional sense he is not. If he plays the classic PG role he is too turnover prone and is not strategic enough. However he does it the gravity way. He still gets a ton of players indirectly open, while shooting on an insane clip. Nobody ever done it this way, so a comparison is hard, but i would say he is top 5 in PGs… but probably him and Magic the best in uniquely incomparable ways.
He's the best player
Stephen Curry goat of basketball
The greatest shooter of all times!!!
This isn't even an argument anymore. He been had that title.
With those two talents, they're both up there. Its a matter of preference. They both gonna destroy the opposing guard. Just, how you want it? They both can shoot lights out, they both harsh on opposing ankles, they both can finish at the rim against bigs. Itd be dope if their assist numbers were a bit higher tho, but whatever. Enjoy watching them play. Definitely going to be missed when they decide to retire.
Steph is the GOAT!!!!
I haven’t heard someone compare Kyrie and Steph since like 2017.
Curry is the all time best in the NBA,nobody is even close to be compared my guy
If he gets fifth ring, he will undoubtedly become the greatest point guard of all time.
If he won’t get it,There should be a conversation.
NBA should make a rule that whoever guards Steph gets a $10K incentive for the frustration.
Ppl always comparing steph and kyrie. They're both good players, why don't u just love every player instead of hating one and comparing others.
Kyrie dribble 17 secs before he shoot or pass.
And he has 1 rings under his belt
What yall fail to realize is Steph can be a facilitator and he can be the primary ball handler the thing is teams fear him so much they send double teams at half court which will make the game very inefficient for the warriors! So he moves off ball and lets draymond facilitate
On ball Magic and Steph are great. Off ball Steph is the goat and Magic is Ben Simons ...
People don’t realize that Steph has been the best player in the league since 2016
His already one of the Goat
Curry is easily Top 10 all-time, borderline Top 5.
The GOAT 🐐