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If someone has a silent letter as her name, would that mean that whenever you use the name you skip over it? For example “her name is,” “my name is and I'm 20 years old,” or “I'm going out with tonight.”
I've meet a brazilian guy once whose name is Valtdisnei (i don't remember his surname), he told me that his mom came up with that name because she liked to watch Walt Disney's cartoons as a child...
Macdeas Not really. If you look at the meanings of popular names like John, James, Mary, Peter, and many others, you'll get phrases like "gift of God," and others. Sara means "Princess." Regina is the Latin word for "Queen." consider the American names like Hunter and others. Naming a girl Bonny or Bella is the same as naming her "beautiful." And then there are the names Faith, Hope, Charity, and even Chastity (Sonny and Cher were a little weird to me in that case). Consider a language that doesn't have a direct word meaning "Faith." when conveying the meaning of the word itself, it might be translated as "one who sees inner truth." That is why name translations seem cumbersome sometimes.
that is not true. the vast majority do have middle names; some people are not told till they are a teenager or they just were not told ever; some actually have a Firs,t Last, and 2 Middle names
I believe about 85% of the population of the U.S. has a middle name. Such factors as culture and region will affect the likelihood of a middle name. Roman Catholic tradition includes choosing a middle name on confirmation. People of English ethnicity usually have a middle name and many of Hispanic background have more than one middle name. I have some Spanish ancestors who had 4-5 middle names and several surnames. Spanish naming traditions are often quite complicated. I don't know of anyone in my family that has fewer than one middle name and only one great grandparent didn't have a middle name.
"firstname: Sukarno. last name: Sukarno." "so your name is Sukarno Sukarno? "no, my name is Sukarno. I'm only have Sukarno. so I think my first and last name is Sukarno."
Ahmad Febri Ramadiyana When I was younger and learning Indonesian at school it took me a while to get the idea of simply having one name but as time went on I got used to it and in fact had to be someone trained out of that thinking when I started dating my partner who is Indonesian but is ethnically Teochew and Christian hence she has a given name and a family name as was forced on her family as they were not permitted to keep their Chinese names as their legal names until recently.
I went to school with a Burmese dude named Sein who only had one name. When his family moved to the US, they took the name of their city (Shwebo) as a last name for their legal documents.
Amy Soderstrom nym rather than nim - because it's from Greek - so duonymous. It should be in the dictionary, I agree. I'm married to a mononymous person.
It's mostly to stop people from naming themselves something that sounds like a troll username on youtube or changing their names more than once. As long as you're changing your first name to something that sounds normal it shouldn't be an issue. Changing your last name probably only has one reason anyway. You either don't have family or you want to cut ties with them.
My husband and I legally changed our last name one year after we were married. We did it as our “paper” anniversary present. The judge asked me why I wanted to change my last name, I said so it would match my business name. He then asked my husband why he wanted to change his, my husband said”I want to match my wife”. The judge banged his gavel and we have been the Skulls for 10 years this Halloween 💙☠️💙
website: Please write your full legal name here you: "Vsauceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Michaeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
I met a guy named "Skye" who had checks printed with just "Skye." This was in the USA, so I'm not sure his reasons or anything, but I just thought after watching this video that it's interesting to have met someone with a mononym, which is my first new word of 2017! :) Happy New Year TIFO!
3:30 "You can add or remove names." Fuck yeah, I'm moving to the UK and removing all of my names. I'll then be known as "XXX", at least until I move back to the United States.
My ex-girlfriend's aunt had her name changed like 4 times. She was originally named for her aunt Carol, who was an adulterer, so she had it changed to Ashley because she didn't want to be named after the cheating aunt. She later became an Evangelical Christian and had it changed again to Hannah, which comes from the Hebrew word for "grace." Then she moved to the UAE and converted to Sunni Islam, and adopted an Arabic name Fozia, then after moving to Pakistan, she had the name Irum added lol almost her whole family still calls her Carol
I'm from the USA and just legally changed my full name. Didn't have to publish in the newspaper due to parental domestic violence, but BOY WAS IT EXPENSIVE!
It cost me about $70 to change my name in Missouri when I did it last year between the filing fees and the publication. That said, it took forever and four trips to the courthouse. Then there's all the time updating your banking and government records... Not much of a money investment for me, but it was a hell of a time one.
Ikr?! I did it in Colorado but was paranoid about the FBI cards being rejected, so paid $80 for the digital prints. Was like $100 to file with the courthouse. I just sent off for the new SS card last week tho. If prices are still the same it'll be $12 for the new license. Still need to send for a certified fixed birth certificate from Washington state. This whole thing is so time consuming.
Some times there are ways around the difficulties of the US system. My wife and I recently got a marriage license in California. She was allowed to write down anything she wanted on the application, in each blank. She actually came up with an unexpected combination. For that matter, so did my sister. I want to say at this time that I have worked in the mortuary industry, where we must deal with names, legal names, and official identity. It is for certificates and reporting purposes. It has become a difficulty that some people have gone by nicknames for years. At long last the death certificate has been ammended to accommodate this. Another difficulty is the hyphenated name. It is a recent trend in California to take on a hyphenated name, be it legal or not. This is trendy and faddish. Not well considered, and does not honor hyphenated name styles originating in Europe. It is a thoughtless action. And inconvenient to the system. Another thing that makes things more difficult is bad spelling, cutsie spellings or creative spelling. If your mother or you can't spell, how can you hope for the system to keep it straight? The last example may be helpful to some people. In California, a LEGAL ALIAS is recognized. The State government won't give you a hard time, as long as the alias is not for illegal or spurious purposes. And all you have to do is to claim that name. No courts, etc. I had a friend who did this. Apparently he had a rough background. When he decided to come to California and start over, he took a name from a headstone in a cemetery. He led an honorable life till he died, and the name change helped. This is a good example of keeping it simple, having a good reason, and consistency, once the change was effected.
I work for the German immigration authority and have mononymous clients quite often. In our computer programs the nonexistent name is marked with "+", in passports or ID cards it's "---". That rule is applicable for mononymous people who acquired German citizenship later in life too, if they choose not to change their name during the naturalization process. Generally, it's not easy to change your name here, so you can't just get rid of one of your names without having a good, plausible reason. If your last name is considered offensive (like Hitler or Fucker) you may change it to your mother's maiden name for example.
And here I thought people of the US had all this freedom, but when you dig beneath the surface the rules and regulations are up there with some of the strictest in the world.
Several years ago I had a co-worker who, as an American and a resident of Texas, was mononymous. His particular workaround was to use his name as a last name, and "Mr" as a pronym for applications such as email that just COULD NOT cope with the notion of a mononym.
The concept of name changes has always interested me. I like screen names and nicknames because I consider it creating your own identity. Your parents don't know how well/poorly your name will suit you when they give it to you at birth, so it can sometimes be a clean slate for you. I seriously doubt I'd ever go through with legally changing my name to Gil, but I still find it interesting to think about.
Flexible Games Yes he did, but it was not by choice. when he left the record label he was recording for, he did not realize they had pulled a fast one and actually held a copyright on his name. Yes, his real first name is Prince. Prince Rogers Nelson. so basically he was told he was not allowed to use his own name until the contract with his former record label had expired. It took about 10 years for that to happen. Can you imagine being told your name was not your own and you couldn't even use it?
MyBrainEatsEverything Yeah, they were really screwing with him, and not in the fun way. I'm guessing that's why he was able to get away with the O) +> name change.
Flexible Games No, just his professional/group "name", as his first record company owned "Prince" as a trademark. He could not register to vote as "Prince" as that was only part of his personal name (his first name, IIRC).
Growing up, my parents used to call me, "Boys Cut It Out!" I'm glad that nickname didn't stick, but I don't usually recognize my own name when it is said. Funny how certain things get ingrained.
fun fact about italy: there's a town near Venice named Chioggia, since it has been for a long time pretty much isolated (it's in the middle of the venetian lagoon), most of the population has the same 5-6 last names, causing there to be a lot of people with the same name. To facilitate identification, their ID lists the nickname aswell
You probably can in certain countries unless that configuration of numbers is specifically banned. There's a video on here called "top 10 banned baby names" or something and it covers the topic. So maybe you can be given a numbered name but you can't change your name to something with numbers.
Strangely Morrissey (full name Stephen Patrick Morrissey) who was born & lived in England until 1998 didn't get his driver's licence changed to just Morrissey until some time after moving to California.
So I guess Princes Consuela Banana Hammock and Crap Bag (formerly Phoebe Buffay and Mike Hannigan respectively) would not have been approved in the US ^^'
I work in the credit assesment department for a major telecommunications company. It is nearly impossible to get service for your home or cell without at least 2 names. Even with all legal documents proving this to be your name you will be accused of fraud.
I don't get that rule about changing your name to a famous person's name. Do celebrities just have dibbs on the names that their parents randomly gave them? Will every name eventually be taken up by famous people, and everybody will just have to get names with no vowels or something?
I went by one name for nearly a decade in the US. It was legal. I did this this in the mid-90's. My California driver's license just said "Noah". I registered to vote as "Noah". I paid my state and federal taxes as just "Noah". It was totally legal, but turned out to be a pain in the ass. Actually, what you said about changing your name in the US is wrong. It is not that hard because there is a giant loophole. You even mentioned this loophole in your video. It's true that you may go in front of a judge if you want to change your name instantly for some reason, but the loophole is that if you want to gradually slip into going by a new name then that's totally legal. Just start using your new name. You do not have to justify your name change in front of a judge if you use your new name for a lengthy period of time. I forget how long, but it was something like a year or two years. Once the preponderance of the world knows you by your new name then that's legally your name. Nobody has to approve anything. You don't need to fill out any forms. Once you have changed your name with the IRS; get the DMV to issue you a driver's license; and use the new name on the deed to your house, your mortgage loan, primary banking account, voter registration card then you don't need to do anything else. Going in front of a judge is superfluous. They can't force you to change all those things back to your original name.
It used to be that you could legally change your name when joining the US military. Many years ago I served in the Navy with a man named "BOB." He had a really difficult and long name given at birth. When he joined the Navy he changed his surname to Bob and did not provide a first or middle name. His military ID listed his name as Bob NFN, NMN. His name tape on his uniforms said BOB. On board he was known as GMG1 Bob or "Gunner Bob."
My dad had a coworker who had to give his last name as "Unkown" pronounced "UN-ka-NOW-en" so secretaries and other workers wouldn't be too weirded out.
"for instance, in the UK." bring up picture of ONLY England. so is it only England? or is it in the whole UK? because your graphic doesn't even include Wales, or Scotland, let alone Northern Ireland.
The same reason they used a picture of the rule cards from the monopoly card game when talking about the rules of the board game in the monopoly video.
A Canadian senator has done something like this: Nancy and Ruth are her first and middle names, respectively. She dropped her last name some time in the 1990s.
Question! So does the same thing for Teller and Cher apply to those that could be considered of internet fame? For instance in the eSports community, could a famous player for something like a few years change their legal name to their pro-name? Or is it too grey at the moment since the idea of internet fame is still a relatively new thing?
I guess it depends less on the internet but on the eSports community - I think that is still to small to be considered well known to the general population
It depends entirely on the judge's discretion and the state. A lenient judge could absolutely grant it, but they could just as easily decline the request if they find it frivolous.
Johann Gambolputty... de von Ausfern-schplenden-schlitter-crasscrenbon-fried-digger-dingle-dangle- dongle-dungle-burstein-von-knacker-thrasher-apple-banger-horowitz- ticolensic-grander-knotty-spelltinkle-grandlich-grumblemeyer- spelterwasser-kurstlich-himbleeisen-bahnwagen-gutenabend-bitte-ein- nurnburger-bratwustle-gernspurten-mitz-weimache-luber-hundsfut- gumberaber-shonedanker-kalbsfleisch-mittler-aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm? Another Monty Python great.
Note to the English. Unlike the presenter, I know a thing or two about changing names. You do NOT need to use a Deed Poll. In fact, you don't need to do anything other than tell people to use your new name. You can if you want, put an advert in the local newspaper announcing this fact. Best, and far cheaper than a deed poll, is a statutory declaration sworn at a Magistrates' Court. This is free and your declaration is placed in the court file. You can also make a statutory declaration with a commissioner for oaths, but this will cost money and no official copy is kept. There is a restriction on changing names: you must not do so for fraudulent reasons.
Spanglish Photo if the entire video was "Can you legally vhange you name to only your first or last name? yes" would you watch that? why would that be in any way entertaining? you can google that, people watch this channel (i do atleast) to get the backstory on seemingly mundane things that exponetially expand as you venture into history. Something youve never even thought of are turned into incredibly diverse and interesting subjects... if you think it can be summed up in one word, you obviously dont understand the spirit of this channel...
It isn't a yes or no question. The answer is "it depends". That might seem like a yes, but for a lot of people, the majority perhaps, the answer is actually "no".
It appears you haven't realized that the "Deed Poll Office" isn't an official government department, but a private company that helps you change your name by deed poll.
in the UK, you can change your name for free, by writing your own deed poll. the people who charge for the service dont like to mention it, but you DO NOT have to pay!
Hey guys, I really really love your content, but I just wanted to say, you keep using "as such" wrong. It is not a simple synonym for "therefore" - you're only supposed to use it if you can replace the "such" with a noun from the previous sentence ("the sun is a star - as such, it emits light": there, you can change "such" to "a star" and it still makes sense). By contrast, "mononymous people are rare [...] particularly in the west - as such, most of our infrastructure is built to [...]" is most certainly *wrong*.
Not trying to tell anyone how to anything :) just thought it was a pity that they were using it this way, considering how well-constructed their videos are and how well-spoken their hosts are. I am of the firm belief that study of language should follow usage, not dictate it, however, this does not mean one should not keep an eye out for possible unclear phrasings. Their usage of "as such" was just slightly distracting to me (my brain kept asking "as what? As what?", when the idiom did not follow any noun), so I decided to comment on it in order to point out something they might have missed. :) Regardless, make sure you keep up the great work, guys! I really like your channel a lot.
Joe B I never claimed to know everything about it; all I know is someone said that it was as it is because Scotland has different laws than those described in the video. I'm an american, and don't know too much about UK laws and such.
King of Midgard It's a bit like how the different states in the US have a degree of self rule, and their own state court system in addition to federal courts. The UK isn't as decentralized as the US, but Scotland has a degree of self rule and independent court system.
That may be where it originated but today spam is pretty much just an acronym for "Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages" because online... that is what spam is.
I know this video only focused on the UK and US, but in Europe (especially Portugal and Spain) having fewer than three names is practically unheard of. You usually have one or two first names, and two to four last names (usually two of each).
nanianmichaels I think most people have 3 names in US. Some have more, but I think very few have only 2 names. I've heard of it, but I don't think I ever met anyone like that.
It use to be common to not even give a child a first name until they were of school age. Therefore a child could be said to only have a last name until then.
I live in the US and work with a guy who legally changed his name to a single first name back in the 60's/70's. He now has no last name. Per his story, he did it because he did not want to be listed in the phone book by his last name. I am not positive if the phone book is accurate or not, but I do know he does legally only have a first name.
Adding to the spam discussion, it was the repetitiveness of the skit that inspired its usage. When spam first became an internet term, it refered not to junk mail, but repetitive or too frequent postings in various online discussion mediums, such as MUDs, chatrooms, and newsgroups. It later expanded to encompass any useless electronic communication, regardless of its frequency.
In the case of Prince, that was actually his first name (his full name was Prince Rogers Nelson). Teller and Cher are unusual cases. Teller was born Raymond Joseph Teller but legally changed his name to the mononym Teller. Cher (born Cherilyn Sarkisian) uses a shortened form of her first name.
I remember the guy who used only his initials and went by RB Jones. He was registered by the US Army as R (only) B (only) Jones and was issued dog tags for "Ronly Bonly Jones."
Last year I changed my name from my adopted name to my actual birth name here in California. First I had to wait in line hours to see my county clerk to file the paperwork and pay a fee (if wasn't cheap... several hundred dollars). Then I had to wait as the county ran a background check on me. After they called to notify me that I was apparently on the up and up... I had to go to the clerk's office and retrieve the OK'd paperwork necessary to proceed. Then I had to put a "Notice of Legal Name Change" in my local printed newspaper to run for four consecutive weeks and obtain proof of that (another 125 bucks that they required I pay in cash). After I obtained publishing proof, I had to go back and wait in line for hours again at the county clerk's office to file the proof and make an appointment with the court to stand before a judge. Weeks later, I appeared before a judge, argued my case, he banged his gavel and granted my application. THEN I had to go back and wait in line to see the clerk and file the judge's ruling and obtain extra copies of the decree. The entire process took about three months. ---- And that was just the start of it. Don't even get me going about subsequently changing my name with credit card companies, insurance, mortgage, utilities, birth certificate, marriage license, driver's license, Social Security, TSA, US passport and on and on and on... this has NOT been a joyful adventure nor is it one for the faint of heart.
I used to have only a first name in India. But when I wanted to enroll at US universities to study here, some would not accept my application without a last name. Had to legally change my name to include a last name :s
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How did this work with Prince when he changed his name to a symbol?
Penn & Teller have full names. Penn Jillette and Raymond Joseph Teller.
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As a librarian, I decree your words are proper and shall be recognized henceforth. Wield this power carefully, Simon.
Ill change my name to just McLovin
I had the same thought.
That's super bad
PotasioCasillas McMuffin!
that's a tradmark phrase
damn, looking through the comments to make sure no one did that joke yet :(
my name is Esteban Julio Ricardo Montoya de la Rosa Ramírez
Green is your color.
GoatSuit Gaming Princess Bride?
Yan Toha Zach and Cody
Pink Ramirez?? "Well, it's more of a lightish Red"
GoatSuit Gaming or just Esteban Ramirez...
Can I remove all my names and be nameless?
You can change your name to a silent letter (I think)
Nice.
The most outlandish name I know was just a consonant as the given name, but the kid had a last last name, and maybe other name.s
If someone has a silent letter as her name, would that mean that whenever you use the name you skip over it? For example “her name is,” “my name is and I'm 20 years old,” or “I'm going out with tonight.”
Future Dystopia stop hurting my brain
Future Dystopia I think you would pause for a moment like for a , or you would just get a nick name because have no name would be really inconvenient.
I've meet a brazilian guy once whose name is Valtdisnei (i don't remember his surname), he told me that his mom came up with that name because she liked to watch Walt Disney's cartoons as a child...
Ruben Fernandes There's quite a few people in Colombia called Usnavy, because they saw all the US Navy ships and liked the name.
The Brazilians like weird made-up names.
Lukaaz, they were named after their fathers.
Macdeas
Not really. If you look at the meanings of popular names like John, James, Mary, Peter, and many others, you'll get phrases like "gift of God," and others. Sara means "Princess." Regina is the Latin word for "Queen." consider the American names like Hunter and others. Naming a girl Bonny or Bella is the same as naming her "beautiful." And then there are the names Faith, Hope, Charity, and even Chastity (Sonny and Cher were a little weird to me in that case).
Consider a language that doesn't have a direct word meaning "Faith." when conveying the meaning of the word itself, it might be translated as "one who sees inner truth." That is why name translations seem cumbersome sometimes.
Macdeas
I prefer Fido Dog lover or Felicia licksalot.
Actually quite a few people have middle names. Although perhaps the most popular middle name in the US Military is "None"
+Provocateur holihovx b real doe lol
that is not true. the vast majority do have middle names; some people are not told till they are a teenager or they just were not told ever; some actually have a Firs,t Last, and 2 Middle names
pws3rd 1 Nah. Some only have single letters!
Two middle names usually comes about from confirmation
I believe about 85% of the population of the U.S. has a middle name. Such factors as culture and region will affect the likelihood of a middle name. Roman Catholic tradition includes choosing a middle name on confirmation. People of English ethnicity usually have a middle name and many of Hispanic background have more than one middle name. I have some Spanish ancestors who had 4-5 middle names and several surnames. Spanish naming traditions are often quite complicated. I don't know of anyone in my family that has fewer than one middle name and only one great grandparent didn't have a middle name.
"firstname: Sukarno. last name: Sukarno."
"so your name is Sukarno Sukarno?
"no, my name is Sukarno. I'm only have Sukarno. so I think my first and last name is Sukarno."
Ahmad Febri Ramadiyana When I was younger and learning Indonesian at school it took me a while to get the idea of simply having one name but as time went on I got used to it and in fact had to be someone trained out of that thinking when I started dating my partner who is Indonesian but is ethnically Teochew and Christian hence she has a given name and a family name as was forced on her family as they were not permitted to keep their Chinese names as their legal names until recently.
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I went to school with a Burmese dude named Sein who only had one name. When his family moved to the US, they took the name of their city (Shwebo) as a last name for their legal documents.
'duonimous and trionimous', add them to urban dictionary now, because Simon decreed them as such.
Amy Soderstrom nym rather than nim - because it's from Greek - so duonymous. It should be in the dictionary, I agree. I'm married to a mononymous person.
"In the UK" *shows England only*
Theodoroball yh kind of what I'd expect from him tbh 😑
Theodoroball yea pretty ignorant ain't it? 🙃
England Is all that Matters
Shadow yh you keep telling yourself that 😂
CrimsonCutlass Well no England is your Country not your City for starters 😂
So they don't want you to do it for frivilous reasons, but how is that determined? Seems subjective.
It's mostly to stop people from naming themselves something that sounds like a troll username on youtube or changing their names more than once. As long as you're changing your first name to something that sounds normal it shouldn't be an issue. Changing your last name probably only has one reason anyway. You either don't have family or you want to cut ties with them.
+cmck Lots of people change their last name when they get married, so that's another common reason.
Welcome to the legal system. Everything that happens within a court room is subjective.
My husband and I legally changed our last name one year after we were married. We did it as our “paper” anniversary present. The judge asked me why I wanted to change my last name, I said so it would match my business name. He then asked my husband why he wanted to change his, my husband said”I want to match my wife”. The judge banged his gavel and we have been the Skulls for 10 years this Halloween 💙☠️💙
Wait, I live in the UK, so can I call myself Bobby'; DROP TABLE "Users";--?
That would fall under an illegal name change. As you would be intentionally be attempting to cause damage to another's computer.
yes you can call your self "Vsauceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" too if you wish to
ComputersAreRealCool bobby'; SELECT * FROM porn;
website: Please write your full legal name here
you: "Vsauceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee Michaeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeereeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
Punctuation marks are not permitted in names so it would be rejected.
I met a guy named "Skye" who had checks printed with just "Skye." This was in the USA, so I'm not sure his reasons or anything, but I just thought after watching this video that it's interesting to have met someone with a mononym, which is my first new word of 2017! :) Happy New Year TIFO!
Yes but wasn't the meat product what they were talking about in Monty Python?
And thankfully now we have a spam filter :D
Spam spam spam
Rented mule. But the Vikings were singing about the meat called Spam, just because Simon says :)
I wonder too did Prince have a lot of trouble legally getting that name.
I thought SPAM just stood for Stupid Pointless Annoying Message.
3:30 "You can add or remove names."
Fuck yeah, I'm moving to the UK and removing all of my names.
I'll then be known as "XXX", at least until I move back to the United States.
tohopes make your name NFN to cause confusion
3:17 "For instance, in the UK..." while showing a map of only England.
"Creating your own words shows creativity and vision" - Barney Stinson
My ex-girlfriend's aunt had her name changed like 4 times. She was originally named for her aunt Carol, who was an adulterer, so she had it changed to Ashley because she didn't want to be named after the cheating aunt. She later became an Evangelical Christian and had it changed again to Hannah, which comes from the Hebrew word for "grace." Then she moved to the UAE and converted to Sunni Islam, and adopted an Arabic name Fozia, then after moving to Pakistan, she had the name Irum added lol almost her whole family still calls her Carol
I'm from the USA and just legally changed my full name. Didn't have to publish in the newspaper due to parental domestic violence, but BOY WAS IT EXPENSIVE!
It cost me about $70 to change my name in Missouri when I did it last year between the filing fees and the publication. That said, it took forever and four trips to the courthouse. Then there's all the time updating your banking and government records... Not much of a money investment for me, but it was a hell of a time one.
Ikr?! I did it in Colorado but was paranoid about the FBI cards being rejected, so paid $80 for the digital prints. Was like $100 to file with the courthouse. I just sent off for the new SS card last week tho. If prices are still the same it'll be $12 for the new license. Still need to send for a certified fixed birth certificate from Washington state. This whole thing is so time consuming.
I have spent hundreds of dollars changing my name. Some of that is for things like changing the deed on my home.
Some times there are ways around the difficulties of the US system. My wife and I recently got a marriage license in California. She was allowed to write down anything she wanted on the application, in each blank. She actually came up with an unexpected combination. For that matter, so did my sister.
I want to say at this time that I have worked in the mortuary industry, where we must deal with names, legal names, and official identity. It is for certificates and reporting purposes. It has become a difficulty that some people have gone by nicknames for years. At long last the death certificate has been ammended to accommodate this. Another difficulty is the hyphenated name. It is a recent trend in California to take on a hyphenated name, be it legal or not. This is trendy and faddish. Not well considered, and does not honor hyphenated name styles originating in Europe. It is a thoughtless action. And inconvenient to the system.
Another thing that makes things more difficult is bad spelling, cutsie spellings or creative spelling. If your mother or you can't spell, how can you hope for the system to keep it straight?
The last example may be helpful to some people. In California, a LEGAL ALIAS is recognized. The State government won't give you a hard time, as long as the alias is not for illegal or spurious purposes. And all you have to do is to claim that name. No courts, etc. I had a friend who did this. Apparently he had a rough background. When he decided to come to California and start over, he took a name from a headstone in a cemetery. He led an honorable life till he died, and the name change helped. This is a good example of keeping it simple, having a good reason, and consistency, once the change was effected.
If I was to have one first name alone it would be SEXY
Awesome Guy We all would be *sexy* ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
last name "Llama"...
"We're all Sexy now..."
I work for the German immigration authority and have mononymous clients quite often. In our computer programs the nonexistent name is marked with "+", in passports or ID cards it's "---". That rule is applicable for mononymous people who acquired German citizenship later in life too, if they choose not to change their name during the naturalization process. Generally, it's not easy to change your name here, so you can't just get rid of one of your names without having a good, plausible reason. If your last name is considered offensive (like Hitler or Fucker) you may change it to your mother's maiden name for example.
And here I thought people of the US had all this freedom, but when you dig beneath the surface the rules and regulations are up there with some of the strictest in the world.
And the 50 different name change processes are suuuuch a good example 🙄
if you change your name ull for ever have to fill out forms with
any previous name if so .....
Gummy Bear: No, don't tell them.
Michael Dougfir, that sounds like you're advocating fraud.
Nelson Ricardo sounds like he knows whats going on and isnt foolhardy enough to change his name on whim
Why does the image of the UK not include Scotland or Wales? If you only wanted England, why does it not use the English flag?
Several years ago I had a co-worker who, as an American and a resident of Texas, was mononymous. His particular workaround was to use his name as a last name, and "Mr" as a pronym for applications such as email that just COULD NOT cope with the notion of a mononym.
Yes, but the "spam" of the Python skit came from the meat-like substance, so...
The concept of name changes has always interested me. I like screen names and nicknames because I consider it creating your own identity. Your parents don't know how well/poorly your name will suit you when they give it to you at birth, so it can sometimes be a clean slate for you. I seriously doubt I'd ever go through with legally changing my name to Gil, but I still find it interesting to think about.
"Name change operation." LOL.
Didn't Prince once change his name to just a symbol?
This was his stage name, not his legal name. :o)
Couldn't be satisfied with just being mononymous, he had 2 go 4 symbolnymous.
Flexible Games Yes he did, but it was not by choice. when he left the record label he was recording for, he did not realize they had pulled a fast one and actually held a copyright on his name. Yes, his real first name is Prince. Prince Rogers Nelson. so basically he was told he was not allowed to use his own name until the contract with his former record label had expired. It took about 10 years for that to happen. Can you imagine being told your name was not your own and you couldn't even use it?
MyBrainEatsEverything
Yeah, they were really screwing with him, and not in the fun way. I'm guessing that's why he was able to get away with the O) +> name change.
Flexible Games No, just his professional/group "name", as his first record company owned "Prince" as a trademark. He could not register to vote as "Prince" as that was only part of his personal name (his first name, IIRC).
Growing up, my parents used to call me, "Boys Cut It Out!"
I'm glad that nickname didn't stick, but I don't usually recognize my own name when it is said. Funny how certain things get ingrained.
"in the UK"... by a Briton... showing a map of England alone...
fun fact about italy: there's a town near Venice named Chioggia, since it has been for a long time pretty much isolated (it's in the middle of the venetian lagoon), most of the population has the same 5-6 last names, causing there to be a lot of people with the same name. To facilitate identification, their ID lists the nickname aswell
The Uk involves 4 countries and you only show England.
Wales isn't a different country
Aren't you guys still part of the country of Europe now?
The EU isn't a country. Go watch Wendover. :D
varana312
How do you figure the EU isn't a country?
ArchNME I mean it just isn't a country, it's a agreement or union that many countries have joined
I just legally changed my name to Toast... I wonder if it would be worth the hassle to get rid of my last name
What is it? Andjam?
Tedbread actually
Can I change my name to TheLegend27?
I guess you really could to "TheLegend TwentySeven" or something like that
Carlos Rios I did
Carlos Rios no, that contains a number.
Carlos Rios No. But you can do TheLegendTwentySeven ;)
You probably can in certain countries unless that configuration of numbers is specifically banned. There's a video on here called "top 10 banned baby names" or something and it covers the topic. So maybe you can be given a numbered name but you can't change your name to something with numbers.
Strangely Morrissey (full name Stephen Patrick Morrissey) who was born & lived in England until 1998 didn't get his driver's licence changed to just Morrissey until some time after moving to California.
You can change your name, but then you have to provide legal proof of that name change, and your former legal name, for the rest of your life.
I agree. Sometimes with name changes to legal documents or bank accounts, they do ask for that, so be prepared.
So I guess Princes Consuela Banana Hammock and Crap Bag (formerly Phoebe Buffay and Mike Hannigan respectively) would not have been approved in the US ^^'
The first one maybe. The second one, not so much.
I'll change my name to Princess Consuela Banana-hammock!
why does it only show England For "The United Kingdom"?
#NiCk because this video is per compliant ready for brexit
+*qazwsx edcrfv*
England isn't leaving the UK. The UK (which England is a part of) is leaving the European Union.
Because the other bits aren't important
I'm going to legally change my name to Trashboat.
You say "In the UK,...", but show a figure that is ONLY England!
Marque Lethenstrom that was because he spoke about places in England people go to study.
I work in the credit assesment department for a major telecommunications company. It is nearly impossible to get service for your home or cell without at least 2 names. Even with all legal documents proving this to be your name you will be accused of fraud.
I don't get that rule about changing your name to a famous person's name. Do celebrities just have dibbs on the names that their parents randomly gave them? Will every name eventually be taken up by famous people, and everybody will just have to get names with no vowels or something?
I went by one name for nearly a decade in the US. It was legal. I did this this in the mid-90's. My California driver's license just said "Noah". I registered to vote as "Noah". I paid my state and federal taxes as just "Noah". It was totally legal, but turned out to be a pain in the ass. Actually, what you said about changing your name in the US is wrong. It is not that hard because there is a giant loophole. You even mentioned this loophole in your video. It's true that you may go in front of a judge if you want to change your name instantly for some reason, but the loophole is that if you want to gradually slip into going by a new name then that's totally legal. Just start using your new name. You do not have to justify your name change in front of a judge if you use your new name for a lengthy period of time. I forget how long, but it was something like a year or two years. Once the preponderance of the world knows you by your new name then that's legally your name. Nobody has to approve anything. You don't need to fill out any forms. Once you have changed your name with the IRS; get the DMV to issue you a driver's license; and use the new name on the deed to your house, your mortgage loan, primary banking account, voter registration card then you don't need to do anything else. Going in front of a judge is superfluous. They can't force you to change all those things back to your original name.
05:07
> European Union
> United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
It used to be that you could legally change your name when joining the US military. Many years ago I served in the Navy with a man named "BOB." He had a really difficult and long name given at birth. When he joined the Navy he changed his surname to Bob and did not provide a first or middle name. His military ID listed his name as Bob NFN, NMN. His name tape on his uniforms said BOB. On board he was known as GMG1 Bob or "Gunner Bob."
My dad had a coworker who had to give his last name as "Unkown" pronounced "UN-ka-NOW-en" so secretaries and other workers wouldn't be too weirded out.
"for instance, in the UK."
bring up picture of ONLY England.
so is it only England? or is it in the whole UK? because your graphic doesn't even include Wales, or Scotland, let alone Northern Ireland.
They voted 52 % to make Britain England again.
Are middle names antiquated? I have three...
Why did you mention the UK however include a picture of just England? 3:28.
Pseudo Logic why don't you stfu
mad, kid?
Who?
The guy doing the video
The same reason they used a picture of the rule cards from the monopoly card game when talking about the rules of the board game in the monopoly video.
A Canadian senator has done something like this: Nancy and Ruth are her first and middle names, respectively. She dropped her last name some time in the 1990s.
Question! So does the same thing for Teller and Cher apply to those that could be considered of internet fame? For instance in the eSports community, could a famous player for something like a few years change their legal name to their pro-name? Or is it too grey at the moment since the idea of internet fame is still a relatively new thing?
Furthermore, if this name included numbers would it still be valid?
I guess it depends less on the internet but on the eSports community - I think that is still to small to be considered well known to the general population
It depends entirely on the judge's discretion and the state. A lenient judge could absolutely grant it, but they could just as easily decline the request if they find it frivolous.
*"Furthermore, if this name included numbers would it still be valid?"*
"Chad Ochocinco" (formerly) WR for the Cincinnati Bengals...
I changed my name to All Judges Eat Shit. Then I shit on the judges bench. I am a fucking GOD bitchez
You guys should do "What creatures can and will eat themselves to death and what makes them do this" like yellow lab dogs, mosquitos, ect.
Johann Gambolputty... de von Ausfern-schplenden-schlitter-crasscrenbon-fried-digger-dingle-dangle- dongle-dungle-burstein-von-knacker-thrasher-apple-banger-horowitz- ticolensic-grander-knotty-spelltinkle-grandlich-grumblemeyer- spelterwasser-kurstlich-himbleeisen-bahnwagen-gutenabend-bitte-ein- nurnburger-bratwustle-gernspurten-mitz-weimache-luber-hundsfut- gumberaber-shonedanker-kalbsfleisch-mittler-aucher von Hautkopft of Ulm? Another Monty Python great.
Before I even watch this vid, the answer is Yes. I have seen someone whose name is simply Fox. No last name. Totally awesome.
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Note to the English. Unlike the presenter, I know a thing or two about changing names. You do NOT need to use a Deed Poll. In fact, you don't need to do anything other than tell people to use your new name. You can if you want, put an advert in the local newspaper announcing this fact. Best, and far cheaper than a deed poll, is a statutory declaration sworn at a Magistrates' Court. This is free and your declaration is placed in the court file. You can also make a statutory declaration with a commissioner for oaths, but this will cost money and no official copy is kept. There is a restriction on changing names: you must not do so for fraudulent reasons.
9:08 minutes to answer a yes or no question?
This is most definitely not a question that can be answered with yes or no.
Today I Found Out I disagree. You beat around the bush an awful lot.
Spanglish Photo if the entire video was "Can you legally vhange you name to only your first or last name? yes" would you watch that? why would that be in any way entertaining? you can google that, people watch this channel (i do atleast) to get the backstory on seemingly mundane things that exponetially expand as you venture into history. Something youve never even thought of are turned into incredibly diverse and interesting subjects... if you think it can be summed up in one word, you obviously dont understand the spirit of this channel...
Spanglish Photo these videos are entertainment not encyclopedia entries.
It isn't a yes or no question. The answer is "it depends". That might seem like a yes, but for a lot of people, the majority perhaps, the answer is actually "no".
It appears you haven't realized that the "Deed Poll Office" isn't an official government department, but a private company that helps you change your name by deed poll.
It would be cool if you did one about Spanish naming customs and having two surnames.
in the UK, you can change your name for free, by writing your own deed poll. the people who charge for the service dont like to mention it, but you DO NOT have to pay!
Hey guys, I really really love your content, but I just wanted to say, you keep using "as such" wrong. It is not a simple synonym for "therefore" - you're only supposed to use it if you can replace the "such" with a noun from the previous sentence ("the sun is a star - as such, it emits light": there, you can change "such" to "a star" and it still makes sense). By contrast, "mononymous people are rare [...] particularly in the west - as such, most of our infrastructure is built to [...]" is most certainly *wrong*.
Good luck telling the english langauge how to behave.
Not trying to tell anyone how to anything :) just thought it was a pity that they were using it this way, considering how well-constructed their videos are and how well-spoken their hosts are. I am of the firm belief that study of language should follow usage, not dictate it, however, this does not mean one should not keep an eye out for possible unclear phrasings. Their usage of "as such" was just slightly distracting to me (my brain kept asking "as what? As what?", when the idiom did not follow any noun), so I decided to comment on it in order to point out something they might have missed. :) Regardless, make sure you keep up the great work, guys! I really like your channel a lot.
And here I thought that "spam" in this sense was an abbreviation for "self-perpetuating automated message"...
Spam! spam! spam! Lovely spam! Wonderful spam!
"Spam" is the trademark for what Hormel euphemistically calls a 'luncheon meat!"
SPAM = something posing as mail
also works works with SPAM = something posing as meat
makes more sense this way
I'm naming my kid Emfore Karbyn
the UK is not only England. unsubbed
He was specifically talking about english law, not uk general law.
+King of Midgard English law includes Wales.
Joe B
I never claimed to know everything about it; all I know is someone said that it was as it is because Scotland has different laws than those described in the video. I'm an american, and don't know too much about UK laws and such.
He specifically mentions "UK Law". The UK is composed of England, Wales, Scotland and Ireland.
King of Midgard
It's a bit like how the different states in the US have a degree of self rule, and their own state court system in addition to federal courts. The UK isn't as decentralized as the US, but Scotland has a degree of self rule and independent court system.
I still want to change my name to The Doctor
Dood, get to the point
My last name is 2 words. Always great when a form refuses to let you use spaces.
That may be where it originated but today spam is pretty much just an acronym for "Stupid Pointless Annoying Messages" because online... that is what spam is.
My grandfather's first name is officially "xxx"
Today I found out that you can talk about UK law while referring only to English law, while using a map of England only, but filled with the UK flag.
I know this video only focused on the UK and US, but in Europe (especially Portugal and Spain) having fewer than three names is practically unheard of. You usually have one or two first names, and two to four last names (usually two of each).
nanianmichaels I think most people have 3 names in US. Some have more, but I think very few have only 2 names. I've heard of it, but I don't think I ever met anyone like that.
It use to be common to not even give a child a first name until they were of school age. Therefore a child could be said to only have a last name until then.
California no longer requires you to go before a judge or publish in a pepper. But some states require a criminal background.
the first name I got was: Ivana Humpalot
Who the hell ever wants to be called "Just Have a First or Last Name if You Wanted To"?
I live in the US and work with a guy who legally changed his name to a single first name back in the 60's/70's. He now has no last name. Per his story, he did it because he did not want to be listed in the phone book by his last name. I am not positive if the phone book is accurate or not, but I do know he does legally only have a first name.
Did anyone else wait for the emperor's "full" name
This isn't even a question.
McLovin.
In England you don't actually have to pay a fee to change your name, it can be done totally free
Adding to the spam discussion, it was the repetitiveness of the skit that inspired its usage. When spam first became an internet term, it refered not to junk mail, but repetitive or too frequent postings in various online discussion mediums, such as MUDs, chatrooms, and newsgroups. It later expanded to encompass any useless electronic communication, regardless of its frequency.
In the case of Prince, that was actually his first name (his full name was Prince Rogers Nelson). Teller and Cher are unusual cases. Teller was born Raymond Joseph Teller but legally changed his name to the mononym Teller. Cher (born Cherilyn Sarkisian) uses a shortened form of her first name.
I wonder if there's anywhere you could change to a last name only, then drop the last name, making yourself nameless...
I remember the guy who used only his initials and went by RB Jones. He was registered by the US Army as R (only) B (only) Jones and was issued dog tags for "Ronly Bonly Jones."
Today I found out not all people with an English accent know the difference between a map of the UK and one of just England.
Last year I changed my name from my adopted name to my actual birth name here in California. First I had to wait in line hours to see my county clerk to file the paperwork and pay a fee (if wasn't cheap... several hundred dollars). Then I had to wait as the county ran a background check on me. After they called to notify me that I was apparently on the up and up... I had to go to the clerk's office and retrieve the OK'd paperwork necessary to proceed. Then I had to put a "Notice of Legal Name Change" in my local printed newspaper to run for four consecutive weeks and obtain proof of that (another 125 bucks that they required I pay in cash). After I obtained publishing proof, I had to go back and wait in line for hours again at the county clerk's office to file the proof and make an appointment with the court to stand before a judge. Weeks later, I appeared before a judge, argued my case, he banged his gavel and granted my application. THEN I had to go back and wait in line to see the clerk and file the judge's ruling and obtain extra copies of the decree. The entire process took about three months.
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And that was just the start of it. Don't even get me going about subsequently changing my name with credit card companies, insurance, mortgage, utilities, birth certificate, marriage license, driver's license, Social Security, TSA, US passport and on and on and on... this has NOT been a joyful adventure nor is it one for the faint of heart.
Teller's name is Raymond. that's just what they go by in the business just like a lot of other people.
The reflection/glare on his glasses at times blends with the backdrop/green screen so it looks like he has a divot in his head.
I think that's funny.
In the US with no middle name, that fact that there is no middle name has to be noted on legal documents. Seems like a waste of time.
I wonder why Cher and Teller decided to make their stage names into their official names. It seems to have only drawbacks and no upside.
Before watching, yes, Teller of Penn and Teller did just that.
Many countries actually have strict laws governing names... it can be stifling. I'm grateful the US and UK are both so permissive.
The Royal Family doesn't have a last name
I used to have only a first name in India. But when I wanted to enroll at US universities to study here, some would not accept my application without a last name. Had to legally change my name to include a last name :s