MARTEN HAGSTROM (MESHUGGAH) | NFR with ROBB FLYNN
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- On this episode of No F'n Regrets, Meshuggah's Marten Hagstrom sits down with Robb as part of Metal Hammers "Innovator's" series, and they talk Meshuggah's new album "Immutable", hearing Metallica and Black Sabbath for the first time, Marten touring with Robb and Machine Head in 1995, having enough material for a solo record (but will Marten release one?) and SO much more on this ALL NEW Episode of No F'n Regrets.
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There's a 13 yo kid in Sweden, his dad plays in Meshuggah. That's awesome.
As a 13 year old I wish my dad was in Meshuggah
I wish 😅
@@jeromesnail 😆
Imagine being able to see them play live up close whenever you want
He is probably embarrassed.. All of his friends listen to rap, the girl he likes doest know what a guitar is.
As a Swede, i feel proud! Meshuggah is one of a kind!
Have a good one folks!
There's a lot for Sweden to be proud of, so many good bands
That was actually quite sad to hear how Marten got disheartened and sad he couldn't share his love for music when Tomas was away. It was great that Tomas had reached out to him when they were searching for a second guitarist and the two of them reunited.
everyone that tells you something else has a lich in the basement.
So cool you got Mårten! Tomas is the de facto band spokesperson, so it's a treat when one of the other band members makes an appearance. And it's even better when it isn't a stock interview, but a great conversation between peers instead. It was awesome learning more about the him and the band.
Yes! So nice hearing stories from another member of the band.
I wish we saw more Jens Kindman interviews. He stopped doing them a while ago unfortunately.
Meshuggah adding Marten on at the beginning was the best thing they ever did. Hard to even think of the band without him
the image of Marten recording guitar riff ideas into his phone in the middle of a supermarket is hilarious
Had me cracking up. Very relatable too, and I always wondered if Meshuggah did stuff like that. Now I know 😁
@@SterlingSimmons22 It's amazing the juxtaposition of thinking about their on-stage vibe, where they seem like these Norse thunder gods, and then hearing Marten talk about grunting ideas into his phone and scaring the other shoppers in the produce aisle. So funny.
No way!!! Our prayers have been answered ! Thank you so much Robb 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Great episode, awesome stories, specially to know that how you discovered and put them on that tour, loved how Fredrik freaked everyone out, loving the podcast, this and Dino´s are my favorite episodes so far, awesome work!
Mårten is a genious song writer
It's so obvious the language Meshuggah speaks thru their instruments are just on a higher level compared to their peers. They're not trying to make music you like. They're trying to say what they want to say. That's a whole other ****ing game boys 🤌🏻
Meshuggah are my all time favorite band since June 1995. Same year I saw you guys with slayer in the divine intervention tour.
Immutable is an amazing record, I’ve listened to it at least a dozen times already. I love waking up in the morning and just tossing it on, not a lot of music grabs me like that anymore.
I fucking love Immutable. Biggest Mesh-head ever here and this one is just that slightly next level like they’ve all been.
@@Egoblivion I totally agree man. Meshuggah is like getting nice and cozy in a warm bed and just being at peace. They deserve all the success they have and more. They might be just one of the most influential metal bands of the last 20 years.
@@Lord_Aghast Meshuggah, Pantera, Death, Faith No More, Tool…to name a few more extremely influential bands….
@@Lord_Aghast that’s fucking funny though comparing their oppressive yet sophisticated heavy music to a “warm and cozy” atmosphere…I mean yeah with the drawn out, sprawling truncated heavy jazz polymetric aggro-beats…
It's so good I løve these guys fucking best band beats modern day crap
It's great to hear from Morten. Doesn't get the attention that he deserves really, but it's not necessarily a bad thing for him. He is the composer of my favourite Meshuggah tracks - thank you Morten for keeping it real.
He is awesome.I Agree less attention is great.
Marten*
Men det er nemt at tage fejl som dansker 😂
@@andreas9084 It's pronounced Morten.
@@Darrylizer1 but not spelled Morten lol
Awesome dude, awesome band. My introduction to Meshuggah was on the Machine Head headline tour in Manchester, England, rushed out to buy Destroy, Erase, Improve on the back of that show
I still want to see an interview with Dick Lovgren. He doesn’t do too many but I really want to hear about his bass playing and style
+1 apparently he has an extensive jazz/classical background
We need more mårten and fred interviews!!!!
Fred is really on the sidelines in the band, hasn't been involved in the songwriting process for years and literally contributed 4 leads to the new record. Not much point in interviewing him. Marten however - fuck yes, let's have more with him!!
@@gergonikk Well said, Mårten put me on the Squarepusher path with an interview years ago, wonder what he listens to nowadays.
Jens even...
@@gergonikk i get that but id love to hear about from him for his past and what its been like for him these past years since he stopped really songwriting
Scott Kelly from Neuorsis would also be really cool
Revolver would be perfect for you if want Scott Kelly.
That's a great suggestion. I've suggested Krist Novoselic, Al Jourgensen and now Pepper Kennan.
@@joshuayettou9032 I don’t think Pepper Keenan will go on this podcast. Due to his affiliation with Phil Anselmo. Plus this channel would get flooded with Phil’s fanboys.
@@elduce7166 Actually Pepper didn't like or agree with what Phil did and you'll always have trolls no matter what. That incident happened over 6 years ago now. I don't think it's that big of a deal anymore. It definitely doesn't exclude anyone whose ever been affiliated with Phil in my opinion.
@@joshuayettou9032 6 years later Phil’s stupid fanclub still goes on and on about this incident. It’s as if, someone personally harmed their dog. They are worse than Misfits fans. Pantera created this weird fanbase of faux tough guys and degenerate idiots. I’m sorry but even Machine Head at their worst are heavier than any Phil’s attempts at doing eXtrEme metal.
This chat is amazing.
Loved to hear the story about how Marten joined the band :)
This was such a treat. I LOVE Meshuggah so much it hurts. I remember the first time I heard them. I don't think I took a breath for the whole song. LOL
Their new album is everything I wanted and expected.
As always, awesome interview. Keep em coming!!!
Meshuggah are one of my top 5 favorite metal bands ever. Immutable is damn near perfection.
Its very good.
Cool interview! Been a metal fan for over 20 years but for some reason only got into Meshuggah the last 6 months, new favourite band!
They are an incredible band
I've been into metal since the late 90's and just got into Cannibal Corpse. We're always discovering new music 🤘
I'm 38 and was in elementary school when I listened to a copy of burn my eyes. My friends and I listened to the album more things change around Jr high period. And didn't get in to Meshuggah until mid 2000s and is currently my favorite band. Awesome to see this interview.
How kick ass must it have been to see Marten play with Machine Head?! Man I love all these old touring stories.
There's a 13 yo kid in Sweden, his dad plays in Meshuggah. That's awesome.
Absolute monster of a rhythm player! Up there with hetfield & Malcom for me.. great podcast
Listening to MH since BMA slayer gig in Solna hallen was my first show and then Circus Sthlm. Listening to Meshuggah since destroy erase improve saw them at Gino.
M write such great guitar and lyrics.
Love that all 3 T M J writes lyrics and music in meshuggah.
Love immutable its the first album I bought physically since destroy erase improve.
Man, it makes me wish I didn't move countries so often growing up. I mean I always felt a bit of that and understand in life we play with the hand we're dealt, but what I'd do to grow up with a best friend and do music together. I never had that. Despite my love for music, my single mom was too busy working her ass off to acknowledge it to the point of helping me become a musician.
I'm now 30. I constantly wanna start making music. I already wasted most of my prime life and still am. I just gotta shift my whole life around. Everything I do is bad habits that lead me nowhere. Smoking weed every day. And don't get me wrong, there's positives to this too. I meditate to a certain extent with weed. It provides calm when my anxiety wants otherwise. And the music I fall in love with is priceless. But making music, that's the next step I gotta work towards. I know I have the ability to learn quickly and do shit. I always surprised people in everything. And I have now 10+ years of guitar playing in my room lol. Yeah, nothing much. But a start I suppose.
Thanks for having meshuggah on 🎸😎🤟
*Marten is one of the reasons that I purchased a customized 8-string guitar.*
that's a bold statement
I saw Mary Beats Jane, Meshuggah(Destroy Erase Improve era )and Machine Head (Burn my Eyes era with Kontos on drums) in Barcelona in 1995 it was Sick
Greetings from Norway🤘🤘🤘
I still can't believe a pandemic happened in my lifetime. I assumed it would happen in the far future and be something our great grand children might have to deal with maybe.
The entire world was in a lock down state of some kind. The USA probably had more freedoms during it, but this was a human experience that will go down in history books. I feel like This experience has mentally evolved the human race to a level where we are coping with the consequences of the internet. The internet is a wonderful tool, but I feel like most people have learned that it can be used as a weapon as well to lead people down the wrong road and make them ready to fight for anything even though they are twisting the truth and feeding lies.
We was all locked up like animals for a long time with a real risk of death
It damaged humanity but I also think we needed something like this to learn, understand , and become better as a species to keep mankind living far into the future!!!
We've all lost a lot, but I see a different attitude and way of thinking in general now that gives me hope for the future.
I'm sure we'll never be perfect. But I believe this has made us better and smarter humans.
Cool to hear them actually talk about music and the creative process and not just random blah blah blah... These are the kind of interviews that hold my attention. Great job OG Flynn!
I love that they aren’t full of themselves like some other bands are.
Loved the vibes of two old friends catching up. Couldn't have made those stories more interesting
Loved the mention of Entombed & all the great shoutouts to Slayer. Fun & funny af! This interview is all aces. Meshuggah opened for Slayer in 1998, saw them twice on the Diabolus/ Chaosphere album tour cycle. Still among the top 3 best shows i ever witnessed.
I love Meshuggah. Mårten seems like a cool dude. Great guitar player.
Still one of my favorite personalities in music. Met him twice and smoked a bowl or two. The best of times for me. So much love and respect for this giant 🙏🏽
Got to hang out with him and Fredrik in the rain outside their tour bus in 2005 and Tomas gave me a bag of apples. lol. The whole band is really cool and down to earth.
@@h.p.dominocus That's so cool! Is there any reason why he gave you a bunch of apples?
@@DMatt343 Til this day I have no idea, I was outside the bus talking to Fredrik and a guy from Mnemic and Tomas came out of the bus and handed me a bag of apples then went on his way. I really have no idea.
@@h.p.dominocus That's phenomenal. I love it. Band stories are the best.
Thanks for sharing.
It would be so damn cool to smoke with Märten. You can tell through some of his riffs he’s heavily influenced by Stoner/Doom metal. What tours did you meet him on?
Wow ! Every time I listen to these some unexpected bands pop up. I haven’t heard about Mary Beats Jane in a long time. I have that album and it still plays regularly in my daily shuffle of music. Just got the new Meshuggah and it’s great of course. Another excellent episode Robb !
I was at brixton for meshuggah ,mary beats jane and machine head .meshuggah were missing a member but still destroyed and mh played a new track called frontlines.
I appreciate so much hearing this Long talk with Mårten 🙏 so heartwarming to hear about his history with Tomas 😊
In an interview Thomas said he played drums on cushions bs stuff around the house since he was really young like 5. Then his folks realised he's a drummer and got him a kit
they've been jamming since they were 12... insane.
Being a graphic arts designer the arched lettering is killing me! I couldn't even enjoy the interview with my OCD ass! Just kept focusing on that arch not looking at all right to me Lmmfao! I have issues.
Well done Rob. Seen Meshuggah a couple times, unbelievable both times. Listening to the new album yesterday just shaking my head in disbelief at some of the stuff Thomas plays. Not only that, they all seem to be the coolest guys.
What a cool chat this was!
Fredrik is making a new Special Defects album? jeez, that's sickest news!
I still have the Selfcaged EP that I bought from the merch stand at Manchester Apollo on the 95 tour.
I think I woke up my neighbours laughing when I heard he lost his virginity listening to At dawn they sleep haha
No way, the ex-drummer for Animals As Leaders, he mentioned. Sick! One of my favorite bands!
Robb's son is playing the Cello?!
Something went terrible wrong here,Mr. Flynn!
Hahaha...just kidding ^^
Be proud!!!
You can see his son perform with Robb, the charity event that Tony LaRusso puts on.
I've seen a lot of great gigs at Glasgow barrowlands but meshuggah and machinehead on the burn my eyes tour was one of the best. I had to walk away from the stage it was so intense.
I really like that Marten doesnt try to be "Metal" as a persona, he is what i call "european" Meshuggah is the hardest of the "core" bands and will ever be yet the guys show that you can be sorta a Metalbuddhist, talking normally being a silent person. I find that to be a rare treat in the business. Not to set down Robb that grew up in a country where you have to be a salesman and show your big pants.
You should get Chino or Stef from Deftones
That would be very interesting. Especially Chino.
Ewww No!!! Chino is a lame Vocalist! And Stef has smoked himself Retarded into thinking the Earth is Flat!!!
YES
Nah get Sergio instead
@@sammadden5540 I second this
A MeshuggaHead tour NEEDS to happen!!! That would sell out 5,000 capacity venues all over the world No fucking problem!!
Humble guys
Two legends :D
If anyone from Meshuggah is reading i guarantee if you made Reign in Blood kind of album in your style it would get the same fame as the Slayer one.
Do it!!!
WONDERFUL wonderful wonderful interview!!!
This guitar player is a force.
Awesome conversation. I'm a huge meshuggah fan and didn't know most of this story
Can't wait for 28 may Manchester!! First time seeing them but I've been a fan since 2003, wish I could see machine head as well at some point... Keep it up Rob thanks for all the years!
Finally got to listen to the whole thing and it was amazing!
Fuck yeah. It’s gonna be awesome
Man, it would be so nice to have a playthrough of any track on the new album by Marten.
Cool interview greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪, and Robb sounds a bit like Erik Rutan (Cannibal Corpse, Hate Eternal) 🤘 🤘
Awesome interview!
Fuck yeah been jamming immutable non stop.
Thank You for having Marten! Great to see him interviewed
What a treat!!! Machine Head & Meshuggah! Thank you, Robb!!
Can't wait for the new single!!
I rinsed a tape of the headbangers ball tour special that was filmed during that Mary beats Jane/meshuggah run. Robb pretty much introduced the world to Korn.
Meshuggah set the mark for guitarists’ picking skills and drummers’ foot work!
Marten rulz. Insightful conversation. Marten seems to be a very kind person
Refreshing to hear that Marten will vocally say guitar rhythms into his phone on voice memos no matter where he is 😆 so relatable. I have hid around a corner just to say a rhythm I have in my head into my phone so no one hears. Cool to hear Marten in this podcast setting, he is a really cool guy, and great guitarist/songwriter.
Wonder if there's any footage of Marten filling in with Machine Head
Fantastic interview. Such a great, peaceful, humble and an affable dude and a killer musician too. Love Meshuggah, can’t wait to see them at Royal Albert Hall 🤘🏻
Is there footage of Machine Head with Marten? Also I wish there were more clips of Meshuggah on that tour. I’ve only seen one clip with fredrik on bass.
ive said it before,,and i'll say it again,,Rob Fynn ,,you do the best metal interviews ,,best guests,,dont get me wrong,,the jasta show and Christina Rowatt (the void,,revolver) are also great,,,,but ROb,,,,this is candid,,insightful,,entertaining,,engaging ...thanks again from australia,,,fuck tv,,fuck covid,,fuck putin(poo tin)...and no fucking regrets :)
so nice to see marten and rob talk like real friends
would be awesome to get Ryan Martinie or Mick Thompson!
I didn't know you had a podcast and this shit just made my day! I have some catching up to do! \m/
45:20 Fast as a Shark!!!
Killer Song, absolutely brilliant!!!
BTW: Mr. Udo Dirkschneider,the man
himself,had his 70th Birthday this
week!
Like the chasm meshuggah don't give a fuck about trends, just play what they want for their own gratification. So cool nowadays.
I'm wondering if that time of Fredrik and Mårten playing bass in turns on tour was what probably inspired the new direction they took starting from Nothing (I read somewhere that it was initially an all-basses project).
lmao they took the Spinal Tap gag too seriously
So many bands stole shit from Meshuggah.
Do they discuss that at all?
damn how doesn't....even the most underground caveman Avant garde disgusting shit rips them!!!
I love that podcast !!! Are there new episodes in the future?
Very cool episode...CHEERS ROB & MARTEN.....
I am so incredibly happy to see one of the Meshuggah guys on your podcast! Thank you so much
OG my dude . great guest , amazing fucking live band !
Whats the "Bay Area",,..???"
👿👻 🇮🇩
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@@llm4187 bay area...???"
@@bayugirassofficial7796 San Francisco Bay in California
@@Salomon_G ouuuw... " okay,.
Thank you so much ..." 👿
this was really fun to listen to, can tell you guys have a good rapport
Been waiting on an nfr with one of the boys from Meshuggah. Thank you Rob
Mårten is your cool uncle
Sorry for double or triple posting or whatever. I really like in the "interview" with Rob Flynn, what seems like Fredrik trolling back in the 90s. He's also my favorite guitarist ever besides Reb Beach. Both influenced by Alan Hogsworth. They goood!!! I like Blasphemer from Mayhem too. He's a great song writer. Whatsoever. I just loved hearing these stories from Marten. Fucking cool considering Ive been into this band since 95.
Alan Hogsworth for leads, very trve, + similarity to Philipp Glas in the art of repetition. Been into the band since Catch33.
@@tomastextor Phililip Glass yes! Have you heard louis andriessen's Worker's Union? The tone sounds like None on this recording but theres no guitars. ruclips.net/video/ThawIrLywiY/видео.html
"Alan Hogsworth" lmaorotf 😆😃🤣🤣🤣
Born in 95 starting feel old myself lmao
Enjoy life ahah. Born in 1987 😅
Wot ? try 69 dude !
@@ralphdarc3094 71 for me...
1966.
1963! Discovered The Meshuggah Machine in 1995 a few weeks after DEI debuted, took less than 2 minutes of Future Breed Machine to make me a STUNNED fan for life. In 1995 Opeth debuted as well, but wouldn't hear their music till "Still Life", even though I kept reading about them till that album.
You make me feel REAL old, folks (a "Boomer" by 1 year) 😅.
MACHINE HEAD'S VOCALIST LEADER IS ACTUALLY ENJOYS MESHUGGAH'S MUSIC, THAT'S WHAT WE CAN CALL REAL METAL BROTHERHOOD. HEJ HEADBANGERS AROUND THE WORLD, GREETINGS FROM SOMEWHERE ON EARTH PLANET.
That none EP blew all are minds Away!
46:16 I didn't know Robb Flynn was a devout Muslim
Awesome. Can't wait to see them in May in Glasgow
Mucky Pup? I havent heard of that band in VERY long time! WOW!!
from memory:
the MachineHead tour they speak of was originally booked & advertized as MachineHead, CLUTCH & Mary Beats Jane... imagine my utter surprise (as a local crew guy & fairly newly obsessed with the Destroy Erase Improve record) when MESHUGGAH walk into Huxley's (in Berlin) to set up.
MESHUGGAH obliterated & tbh, MachineHead sounded like a Sunday School picnic after Mårten & Co.'s sonic seismology.
apparently CLUTCH had to drop out a few weeks before the tour kicked off as far as i remember.
fortuitous for MESHUGGAH...?
🔥🤘🔥🤘12 April 2022 🤘🔥🤘🔥 Machine Head forever💪💪💪
why
I wish Metal Hammer would've asked: "How did you write that fucking insane Pravus shit?" - a question appropriate for Marten...My soul shudders when I hear them fire that up. And as for the virginity question: "Drunken Wisdom" by Overkill! Hail fuckin' Meshuggah!
Not finding the 1 was, combined with the 8 strings and super heavy sound, what got me hooked back in 2002. The song was Stengah. And honestly it's ruined a lot of music for me, not that it bothers me one bit. Now I need music that challenges me either rhythmically or harmonically. Enough said.
But seriously, this whole interview, at least 1h15m in, is super interesting. And most of all it's fun to sort of get to know Mårten as a person. A lot of the history has until now been unknown to me.