Done. :) A question if I may please. What is the maximum force input % you're using with your load cell? I'm using around 40-50% of the max input range (via fanatec software) because I'm currently using a foldable cockpit (GT lite) and applying more than 50% of the peak readable input force to the LC tilts the seat back due to its foldable nature. So I was wondering with that in mind, if you were to speculate, which of the combinations you think might be best (if not the same as your general recommendation) with a foldable cockpit as such. Many thanks in advance.
Thanks again for the donation Martin.👍 I'm running the brake force at 90%. In your situation then a I think either the progressive/progressive, or progressive/linear setup would be the option to run with. There is another option to soften the pedal using a metal spring along with the a couple of the Fanatec elastomers. Right after finishing this video, I begun testing this spring mod, but there is a way to go before I'm ready to put that video out. I need to try some different spring strengths. But early signs is that it's pretty good (and much cheaper) alternative. There's video on the mod here. ruclips.net/video/dz1uSaf0KSg/видео.html. The size is 20 x 10 x 25mm, and I bought mine from here: www.aliexpress.com/item/4000277618107.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.21ef1802TMiMIY. I currently have the blue one installed, and waiting on the Yellow to arrive.
@@DrR1pper I can say this already, elastomers do give a more realistic brake texture over a spring. For braking control, the elastomers have the advantage. Not much, but feedback from the pedal is a bit better with elastomers.
i moved from 3drap to VNM PEDAL BRAKE UPGRADE KIT and this significantly improved my lap times about 0.5 second to 1 second. i used combo with spring and elastomer. And now I combine it with a damper kit, it will take some rebuilding, but I hope it gives a better feeling
I used the csl elite elastomers from ebay, only 15 quid delivered and i got 10, 2 of each strength and they are just perfect, ive not tried the 3d rap ones as i cant afford them but the csl elite ones are fantastic and fit perfectly...✌🏻💙
Great video and analysis of the mods. I like how you went through all the different options too! Well done! I purchased these too both sets and the accel and clutch too. I love the mods they are worth the money. My only complaint is on the rings that can split easily but the bushings are great. I went through a similar process testing the different setups and landed on full progressive but may try the one progression and stock to see how it feels.... thanks for the insight and comparisons 👍
What made you faster or more consistent, the 3DRAP or the springs? I already ordered the yellow/blue springs as they are really cheap, but I need to make sure the 3DRAP would at least make me more consistent before spending $50 on a mod. Last thing, do the 3DRAP elastomers become weaker over time?
got my load cell pedal the other day and man that pedal is stiff and after watching a few mod vids on 3d wrap i bought the hybrid as i think it will suit me best. But least watching this i have options aswell with using fanatec and the 3dwraps
Quite honestly, I wouldn't pick these pedals at all if they aren't hard mounted. The Thrustmaster T-LCM or Moza SRP pedals are far better on a carpet due to the lighter tension on the brake.
@@SimRacingCorner lol well I already crossed that bridge, I already have the CSL load cell pedals but from what you said about the progressives that might be the way to go
Hi, I was wondering if you still have these, Would you be able to tell me the dimensions of a single elastomer? inner diamater (the hole) and outer diamater and the height? Thank you
Does anybody know how to fix a fluctuating load cell brake??? I just opened these and this issue was already there 😭😭😭 it gets worse as I turn down the pressure sensitivity, if anyone knows how to fix it please help.
How do the CSL LC + 3DRAP and the TLCM + 3DRAP compare to each other? Are the brakes equivalent to each other then or is the braking distance still smaller with the CSL than with the Thrustmaster?
I haven't used the 3DRAP mod on the TLCM pedals. However, I can say the end result won't be identical, as the size of the elastomer mods are not the same size for both pedal sets, so their compression/stiffness are different.
@@SimRacingCorner Okay thank you. So which Pedal-Set would you recommend? The TLCM + Brake Mod or the CSL + Brake Mod? I know the Brake Mods you can do are quite different from each other, but I'm trying to get a "normal" Brake-Pedal feeling after all.
Got mine today as i went with the hybrid and nope didnt make a single bit of difference the pedal is still rock solid like you are pushing on a wall so im just going to send them back.. Complete waste of money cos no way this is how a real brake pedal feels lolz
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Done. :)
A question if I may please. What is the maximum force input % you're using with your load cell? I'm using around 40-50% of the max input range (via fanatec software) because I'm currently using a foldable cockpit (GT lite) and applying more than 50% of the peak readable input force to the LC tilts the seat back due to its foldable nature. So I was wondering with that in mind, if you were to speculate, which of the combinations you think might be best (if not the same as your general recommendation) with a foldable cockpit as such. Many thanks in advance.
Thanks again for the donation Martin.👍
I'm running the brake force at 90%. In your situation then a I think either the progressive/progressive, or progressive/linear setup would be the option to run with. There is another option to soften the pedal using a metal spring along with the a couple of the Fanatec elastomers. Right after finishing this video, I begun testing this spring mod, but there is a way to go before I'm ready to put that video out. I need to try some different spring strengths. But early signs is that it's pretty good (and much cheaper) alternative. There's video on the mod here. ruclips.net/video/dz1uSaf0KSg/видео.html. The size is 20 x 10 x 25mm, and I bought mine from here: www.aliexpress.com/item/4000277618107.html?spm=a2g0o.order_list.0.0.21ef1802TMiMIY. I currently have the blue one installed, and waiting on the Yellow to arrive.
@@SimRacingCorner awesome, thank you and I look forward to your video on it. :)
@@SimRacingCorner I'm really interested in hearing (when ready) your opinion of all elastomer vs spring-elastomer combo.
@@DrR1pper I can say this already, elastomers do give a more realistic brake texture over a spring. For braking control, the elastomers have the advantage. Not much, but feedback from the pedal is a bit better with elastomers.
i moved from 3drap to VNM PEDAL BRAKE UPGRADE KIT and this significantly improved my lap times about 0.5 second to 1 second. i used combo with spring and elastomer.
And now I combine it with a damper kit, it will take some rebuilding, but I hope it gives a better feeling
How can you tell the Linear and progressive ones apart?
Holy cow, I like the hybrid soooo much. I immediately shaved .5-1s off my best laps in ACC. What a difference.
Iv been wating for ages for you to do the video on these! Worth the wait! X
Thanks. Yeah, it took a while to get this all set up, it's quite awkward to film all the angles in the cramped space I have to work with.
I used the csl elite elastomers from ebay, only 15 quid delivered and i got 10, 2 of each strength and they are just perfect, ive not tried the 3d rap ones as i cant afford them but the csl elite ones are fantastic and fit perfectly...✌🏻💙
Nice one, good advice.
do you have a link for this?
what colors did you use?
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Out of stock ATM.....
@@marcod7615 2 blue and 2 green works best for me....
Just ordered the linear and progressive for my dc3 pedals. Great review pal 👍
Awesome review! Thanks to you I know what to buy. Very good explanation about the differences between te stiffness. Thanks a lot!
Great video and analysis of the mods. I like how you went through all the different options too! Well done!
I purchased these too both sets and the accel and clutch too. I love the mods they are worth the money. My only complaint is on the rings that can split easily but the bushings are great.
I went through a similar process testing the different setups and landed on full progressive but may try the one progression and stock to see how it feels.... thanks for the insight and comparisons 👍
Thanks man. I definately felt it was worthwhile describing the different setups as they all change the feel quite a bit.
What made you faster or more consistent, the 3DRAP or the springs? I already ordered the yellow/blue springs as they are really cheap, but I need to make sure the 3DRAP would at least make me more consistent before spending $50 on a mod. Last thing, do the 3DRAP elastomers become weaker over time?
Using progressiv and fanatec hybrid and like it on my csl 👍👍
got my load cell pedal the other day and man that pedal is stiff and after watching a few mod vids on 3d wrap i bought the hybrid as i think it will suit me best. But least watching this i have options aswell with using fanatec and the 3dwraps
My question is which one would you go with if the pedals are on carpet? I'm trying to decide which setup to go with this one or with the spring.
Quite honestly, I wouldn't pick these pedals at all if they aren't hard mounted. The Thrustmaster T-LCM or Moza SRP pedals are far better on a carpet due to the lighter tension on the brake.
@@SimRacingCorner lol well I already crossed that bridge, I already have the CSL load cell pedals but from what you said about the progressives that might be the way to go
Anyone know if the moza srp one is any good ?
Hi, I was wondering if you still have these,
Would you be able to tell me the dimensions of a single elastomer? inner diamater (the hole) and outer diamater and the height?
Thank you
Sure, here.... ID:8mm OD:30mm H:24mm
@@SimRacingCorner Thank you!
Does anybody know how to fix a fluctuating load cell brake??? I just opened these and this issue was already there 😭😭😭 it gets worse as I turn down the pressure sensitivity, if anyone knows how to fix it please help.
Contact Fanatec support, that's not normal. It sounds like it's faulty.
How do the CSL LC + 3DRAP and the TLCM + 3DRAP compare to each other? Are the brakes equivalent to each other then or is the braking distance still smaller with the CSL than with the Thrustmaster?
I haven't used the 3DRAP mod on the TLCM pedals. However, I can say the end result won't be identical, as the size of the elastomer mods are not the same size for both pedal sets, so their compression/stiffness are different.
@@SimRacingCorner Okay thank you. So which Pedal-Set would you recommend? The TLCM + Brake Mod or the CSL + Brake Mod? I know the Brake Mods you can do are quite different from each other, but I'm trying to get a "normal" Brake-Pedal feeling after all.
@@Repa24 Are the pedals going to be hard mounted, or just loose on the floor?
@@SimRacingCorner I am planning to build an office-chair rig, so (hopefully) mounted.
@@Repa24 I expect the TLCM pedals are likely to be more suitable for you. I think the CSL pedal brake maybe too stiff for your application.
Do these work with the pedals in the GT DD pro set? The load cell one
Yes; assuming you get the load cell brake pedal with it.
Where can I find a peddle mount like the one you're using?
Thx
It's this ruclips.net/video/H34NnGCephQ/видео.html
With Linear/Progressive combination would it make any difference which way round?
It shouldn't do.
@@SimRacingCorner 👍👍👍
What’s the throttle and clutch mod seen here please?
▶ Fanatec CSL pedals '3DRAP Throttle/Clutch PRO Kit'. [REVIEW] ruclips.net/video/Dk9K-yJf93g/видео.html
Got mine today as i went with the hybrid and nope didnt make a single bit of difference the pedal is still rock solid like you are pushing on a wall so im just going to send them back.. Complete waste of money cos no way this is how a real brake pedal feels lolz
Did you wear shoes? I find the Hybrid set up with shoes is perfect for me. Most load cells stiff.
@@BishopRealTalk98 I sold my pedal set and now have the Clubsport v3s which are 10000x better
@@ghastous
Nice. Might upgrade to those one day.
Weird fish water shoes?
A lot of us use them. ruclips.net/video/oWxq2kSiCy4/видео.html
Oh no.... It's really work!!!!