The Origins of the Indo-Iranians

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  • Опубликовано: 28 дек 2024

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  • @a.d.t.mapping
    @a.d.t.mapping  Год назад +9

    Corrections:
    - Achaemenids never reached as far as the Danube, at Scythia Minor (now Dobruja) they mainly hugged the coast
    - Mazaca (now Kayseri) was autonomous and not part of Achaemenids proper
    I somewhat rushed this video, so I expected as much, but the general image should be accurate

  • @tjxure
    @tjxure Год назад +3

    cuteness overload!!!

  • @RamZar50
    @RamZar50 Год назад

    Prior to Sintashta…
    Yamnaya culture around 4000 BCE is the source including the domestication of horses in the Pontic-Caspian region. Yamnaya invaded Europe around 3000 BCE and the mixture called Corded Ware came back East transforming into Fatyanovo-Balanova; (2800 BCE) -> Abashevo; (2200 BCE) -> Sintashta; (2100-1900 BCE) -> Andronovo; (1900-1700 BCE) -> Indo-Aryans.

    • @a.d.t.mapping
      @a.d.t.mapping  Год назад

      yamnaya i consider to be general indo-european

  • @POGKPP
    @POGKPP Год назад +3

    Great video, but Scythians shouldnt be shown as a state? Many historians were always describing it like empire/kingdom, state of scythians and etc.

    • @a.d.t.mapping
      @a.d.t.mapping  Год назад +3

      from my research, i was given the impression that it was decentralized, with multiple kings and very little permanent settlements (thats why darius had a hard time conquering stuff up there and had to turn back, they were running out of supplies and couldnt pillage any)

  • @ikengaspirit3063
    @ikengaspirit3063 Год назад +1

    What of the Kingdoms/Kings of the Avesta I don't think you show them.

  • @MellonAM
    @MellonAM Год назад +3

    You didn’t make the Danube comment yet

  • @1_rma
    @1_rma Год назад +2

    very 😎

  • @diegoalbertoragotpadra9139
    @diegoalbertoragotpadra9139 Год назад

    When did Zarathustra emerge?
    How much mixing happened between these guys and the Uralic groups?

  • @AuuaysIeowpwp
    @AuuaysIeowpwp Год назад +1

    Achaemenid conquered all Anatolia and in Dariush the great Scythian camping Achaemenid conquered Crimea and Romania

    • @1_rma
      @1_rma Год назад

      The Achaemenids never conquered the tribes in the north, even Xenophon records these independent tribes in Anabasis, Darius only invaded these lands while attacking Scythia but called off the campaign because it was going no where, they never intended to conquer the Getai.

    • @AuuaysIeowpwp
      @AuuaysIeowpwp Год назад

      @@1_rma The first is Xenophon, a second-hand Greek source, in Persepolis, made by Darius himself, who says I am the Scythian kings beyond the waters, and even more recently a relic of Darius the Great has been found at Phanagoria

    • @AuuaysIeowpwp
      @AuuaysIeowpwp Год назад

      @@1_rma Also, Herodotus wrote in his book that there is an inscription related to Darius in Gherla, Romania

    • @1_rma
      @1_rma Год назад

      @@AuuaysIeowpwp Even though Herodotus mentions an inscription, there is no evidence of the Achaemenids asserting control there, aswell as the fact it was most likely from his failed Scythian campaign. One inscription does not equal control, satrapies like Carmania was indepdent by 400 because of their absence in many tax forms. Thus there would be mentions of Romania as a province/satrapy which there is none.

    • @AuuaysIeowpwp
      @AuuaysIeowpwp Год назад

      @@1_rma As I said, Persepolis was mentioned as the Scythians on the other side of the water, aslo do research on the Achaemenid palace at Phanagoria.

  • @AuuaysIeowpwp
    @AuuaysIeowpwp Год назад

    And pls added tocharian and yuezhi, aslo Scythians had taken from Altai to Poland

    • @Nastya_07
      @Nastya_07 Год назад

      The Tocharians were not Indo-Iranian, they were a separate group of Indo-Europeans which originated from an earlier migration.

    • @AuuaysIeowpwp
      @AuuaysIeowpwp Год назад

      @@Nastya_07 No, bro, they are Indo European, the Kushans are from the Tocharis, and according to reliable sources such as Oxford and... they are of Indo European and Iranian descent

    • @Nastya_07
      @Nastya_07 Год назад +1

      @@AuuaysIeowpwp I said that the Tocharians were Indo-European, but they were not from the Indo-Iranian branch, they belonged to their own branch.

    • @AuuaysIeowpwp
      @AuuaysIeowpwp Год назад

      @@Nastya_07 There is no difference between Indo-Iranian and Indo-European, in any case it is better to be in this video because they form the Kushans

    • @Nastya_07
      @Nastya_07 Год назад +1

      @@AuuaysIeowpwp If Indo-Iranian is the same as Indo-European then you could call the Roman Empire an Indo-Iranian empire, see? It makes no sense.
      Indo-Iranian is a branch of Indo-European just like Italic, Celtic, Germanic, Albanian, Hellenic, Armenian, Balto-Slavic and the extinct Anatolian and Tocharian branches.

  • @dodolulupepe
    @dodolulupepe Год назад +1

    they call me the pamplemousse

  • @ayzmalo5553
    @ayzmalo5553 Год назад +2

    Indian and bangladeshis barely have any Aryan steppe DNA though

    • @sahilsingh6048
      @sahilsingh6048 Год назад

      Well yes average indian score like 5-15℅ steppe anscestry depending upon your caste and location within india , but indo euroupean family isnt a Race groups but an ethno linguist group , iranians also have majority of there blood non indo euroupean. , groups like pamiris have more like 40% which is more higher than other iranic groups. Iranians from plateu dont even have their haplogroups of R1a which is associated with the spread of aryans/iranians.

    • @ayzmalo5553
      @ayzmalo5553 Год назад

      @@sahilsingh6048 Yes Iranians are mostly indigenous middle eastern. They mostly carry J2. The ethnic groups with the highest steppe dna live around Central Asia.

  • @ikengaspirit3063
    @ikengaspirit3063 Год назад +1

    Based

  • @AuuaysIeowpwp
    @AuuaysIeowpwp Год назад

    Bruh Achaemenid empire bigger than this

  • @anatolicousin1108
    @anatolicousin1108 Год назад

    the urartians and mittani were not scythians they were the earliest form of armenian

    • @a.d.t.mapping
      @a.d.t.mapping  Год назад

      they were subjects of scythia in the 600s BCE

    • @a.d.t.mapping
      @a.d.t.mapping  Год назад

      well, not the mitanni, they had indo-aryan rulers (provably true due to linguistic analysis) that ruled over a hurrian population (which i assume you think is armenian, which i will concede is kinda true)

    • @ikengaspirit3063
      @ikengaspirit3063 Год назад

      The Mitanni state was an Indian conquest state, with Urartians being the conquered.

  • @A_persian.
    @A_persian. Год назад

    🇮🇷+🇮🇳=thus vidio

  • @bodycornflower
    @bodycornflower Год назад

    that's pretty cool but i am still trying to find the person who asked

  • @pepitamapping
    @pepitamapping Год назад

    the indo aryan