He can be a bit pretentious and maybe too reactive/emotional at times. That's about all I can think of. Don't get me wrong. I love this channel, but Eric and Chad have their dumb moments just like every other human being. I can't fault either of them for it.
He constantly interrupts people like only his opinion matters. Like talking to your wife, your never going to be right and shes never going to be wrong. Erik is defiantly the Robin to Chads Batman. Robin turned out to be a great superhero when he grew up. I just wish in most of his videos with others, someone would walk in and tell him to go wash the batmobile. Or help Alfred with the camera.
I think 410 is really underrated people think they need a 12 a blow a man to pieces. That has plenty of knock down power. I just don't understand why 410 shells are so expensive
The rails do fit, holes are the same on a 12 ga...Pop is 80 now and the 410 is ideal for him being weaker now due to old age. I put a laser on it so he could aim and got him a cool scabbard for the thing. He loves it and named it 'TJ', for Terminator Junior, lol.
You laugh, but if you were in the process of invading a home and caught a face full of bird-shot (or god forbid, some buck-shot or a slug), you're probably not going to decide to continue with what you were doing, if you're even alive at that point, and I have doubts... Also, as they say, "Fear the man who has only one gun (even if it's "merely" a .410 Pump). He probably knows how to use it. People also doubt the lethality of a semi-auto .22lr varmint gun, but if I mag-dump some .22LR Wasps into your eyes and face, you're gonna be out of the fight, and that's putting it nicely. It's not about the stick. It's about who's swinging it. Mind you, I'm not about to go Bear-hunting with a 10/22 or a .410 Pump. In terms of "varmints of the human variety", though, they will do just fine so long as you know what you're doing.
When I was kid and we Dove hunted in large sunflower fields with a big group of hunters. We had a old man who killed more birds than anyone with a pump .410. I asked him why he didn't use a 12 or 20 guage. He said he liked the challenge of using the .410 he was deadly with it.
Thank you for this video! My sister and I were looking for a home defense shotgun! We are both 5 ft nothing so this 410 is exactly what we were looking for. After your video we each purchased one and we don’t want a shoot out if an intruder comes! Stop and drop ! Been at the range and we absolutely thank you for making this video!
My son loves his Mossberg 410 shot gun. He uses it all the time even for clay pigeon shooting and he is better than most using a 12 gauge. It would be nice to see this in a semiauto.
I can’t count how many of my guns fall under this....I bought my wife a Lady Smith model 36, a nice little 38 special revolver, but even since that purchase she’s gotten an AR, a couple shottys, a 10/22 or three...and a few other little “goodies for the wife”...
That’s exactly what I say too! She calls me out on it though. Yeah right you didn’t build or buy me that you just wanted another gun. But she does enjoy shooting them. So it works out lol.
Lightning Strike I actually have an old (and apparently pretty rare) Ithaca model 150 20 gauge double barrel, I use it when I want to blow up the squirrel nests in some of my trees, mainly when they have infested one of the barns and I’m sick of missing their quick little asses lol...I usually pick them off with an old High Standard 9 shot 22LR revolver, but there are times when I’m in a hurry and they have ducked into their hiding places after chewing on some of the antiques...
I run a .410 moss pump for the house with a 18.5” barrel. I have zero qualms of it, great gun. They hit harder than they appear, don’t be fooled. That 3” 000 buck shot hits hard. After a complete shoulder rebuild, it’s a game changer for me. Works for me 🤷♂️
You guys do the best video's of all the "Gun Guy Video Channels" that I watch, honest to God!!! I don't see or hear you guys talk down to the viewers and try to show off how smart you are when it comes to firearms and ammo, plus the video's that you put up are always video's that seem to be for the regular shooters, like stuff as and example, this 410 Shockwave video. I just feel that your video's seem to target the regular shooter and what we like to see...IMHO anyway!!! This is a great video and I love how it has addressed a normal 410 shotgun for normal shooting folks!! I appreciate video's like this and I always find them informative and entertaining!! Thanks for doing what you do guys. Now, with saying that, they are a BLAST to shoot, right? I literally picked one up yesterday on a whim at Montana Tactical!! I had NO plans on buying any firearms, rather I was in to pick up some 12 Gauge ammo along with some 44 Magnum ammo and I saw another guy looking at one and when he was finished looking at it, I asked if I could check it out? I'd say I looked at it for less than 5 mins and I was SOLD!!!! It just felt good in my hand, a tad small, but I'm a tad big...Hahaha...at 6'6" 300 lbs but that's ok, it'll match up with my Mossberg 590 Nightstick, which I've had for nearly a year and I bought a Brand New Mossberg OEM Wood Stock for it, I also had a Smithy install the Mossberg OEM Ghost Ring Sights on it, a MCarbo Trigger Kit, a Mesa Tactical 6 Round Aluminium Side Saddle, an OPSOL MINI CLIP to shoot the shorty shells, a Red NDZ Extended Safety Switch, a S&J Hardware Bright Green Delrin No-Jam Follower and their Heavy Duty Mag Spring that's made from Chrome Silicon Wire that has a High Tensile Strength when it comes to high temps, so they say and a Magpul RLS Sling in Coyote Brown because it just looked better with the Wood Furniture. It's a sweet looking MINI SHOTGUN and I polished all the internals within a couple of days of bringing it home and between that and just racking it empty while sitting outside or watching the tube, most definitely smoothened things up while NOT costing me a nickel!!! Now, it's as smooth as butter when I operate it. I'll be doing the some of the same upgrades to the 410 but not nearly as much. This 410 is for my wife and even before we left the shop, it got it's first upgrade. I saw a TRU-GLO FAT-BEAD on the rack and when she saw it, she said that's the front sight she wanted on the 410, so I turned it over and sure enough, it's a 5-40 Thread Size, so we're set there and the due behind the counter asked if she'd like to see it installed on the gun? She said sure, so he removed the factory bead and installed the Fat Bead and she loved it. If you don't have one on your 410, I would like to suggest that it maybe something to consider, unless you're thinking RED-DOT or something else? It's 0.100" in diameter and it's 0.5" in length and the Green is super bright. The Part Number is TG-TG948DG and he just threw it in for FREE....nice, it got it's first upgrade before walking out the door!! Lol....I bought a box of Winchester S410 PDX1 DEFENDER Ammo and they're 2-1/2" Shells that have 3 Disc's ahead of 12 BB Pellets @ 750 FPS and on the way home we stopped by the range to try them and the Shockwave out. Set the target at 18 yards and the Disc's were 2" to the right of centre and the BB's were approx the same 2" and formed about a 12" circle around the Disc's. Not bad for the 1st round out of it. I wouldn't want to get hit with that round...hahahah...it would certainly leave a mark!!! Lol... I considered buying a SB Brace setup myself. Can you tell me how you like it as far as it's fit and finish and how it feels to the shoulder? Is it a comfortable "stock" to use? I haven't really researched them fully yet, but I think there's 3 major component's, right? The Brace, the piece that connects the brace to the Receiver, then the Pistol Grip, do I have that right? I like the angle that I see from the profile shot of you taking out the targets with ease, Eric!!! You're a really decent shot, sir!!! So far I'm glad I bought one and my wife loves it. We're off to the range again today and we're going to try that Critical Défense ammo that you ran at the beginning of this video and see what it's like compared to the Winchester S410 PDX1 Defender stuff we tried yesterday. Ok, I've yapped on way too long here. Thanks for the great video!!!
Great video Erick, I have a Mossberg 500 12 gauge combo with three barrels, one of which is 18.5". I have been thinking of getting a 500 in .410 for a snake and fun gun, but WOW, I gotta have one of these. What a cool little badass.
The bead sight on a combat shotgun causes them to shoot higher than with a rib or sights. I believe they were referred to as "Belly Button Guns" in early military use due to the instructions to "aim at their belly button" to ensure a center mass hit.
As far as accessories and rails go, I would be happy to custom make some for you if you want. I’ve been designing and 3D printing a bunch of difficult to find accessories for some of my guns with very good results.
I really like how he presents the gun talks shoots tells everything about the gun in detail and you know he knows what he's talking about thank you for the information I have a 12 I'm going toget a 410 as a companion to my judge
Looks fun! If you ever come across one you should pick up a Rossi circuit judge. An 18" barreled 5 shot version of the judge pistol. My wife has really enjoyed hers over the years. The accuracy with 45 lc loads was impressive too.
I’ve been looking for the exact gun since the shockwaves/tacs came out. To me that’s the ideal HD gun for anyone. Lower recoil, compared to 12 and 20. For Easier maneuverability in tight quarters. Less penetration danger to others in the house you don’t want to hurt. The only reason I haven’t purchased one is the lack of accessories on market. Such as shell holders, and so on.
Nice video! The Mossberg 510 Mini Super Bantum is legal in every state and just a few inches longer. The girls all like it and the guys don't want to admit that they prefer it for shotgun plinking.
10-15 years ago I was all "Ahhh! Raw Power!" But now I'm kinda coming around to a lower recoil more rounds on target and unless they have on armor it'll still suck bad. I'm a big guy and I have big palms but short fingers and gripping large handles correctly is difficult. I like the shape of the walther grips
The picatinney rail I had on the receiver of my 20 gauge Mossberg 500 fit right onto my 410 Shockwave. With a Mission First Tactical light mount, I was able to put my Streamlight Protac 2 on top of the receiver. I couldn't find a light mount that would fit out front. For in-the-house range, it hits right about where the light hits. I also put a small cartridge holder on the sling to hold a extra 15rds. It's my atv/walking the dogs gun when in the woods. Now that I see what the arm brace looks like on it, I'm thinking about doing that next.
@@dustinshinabargar236 mine shoots 3 inch fine but it definitely likes 2 1/2 best. I have to constantly clean mine cause of a weak firing pin. When its dirty it does light primer strikes and doesnt light the shell
@@AcidicThought Got a couple hundred rounds through my Maverick 88 and haven't had any problems. The fit and finish probably aren't as nice as the 500s or 590s, but it's the same action at heart and eats anything I feed it.
The 410 is becoming more popular with all the new ammo choices available. Federal now makes a great 410 tungsten turkey load. Imagine shooting Turkeys with a 410.
@@bobsmith-ru7xp you stand in front of me in my living room and take a PDX round and then tell me if you stand by the comment. You won’t be alive to revise that statement.
@@BirdDog. It will work if it's all you got I suppose. There is absolutly nothing it does, that a .45 handgun, or a pump action shotgun doesn't do far superiorer.
@@bobsmith-ru7xp all which will go through my walls and kill my children. I promise you aren’t walking away from an.410 point blank. Why people argue is beyond me.
Isn't it illegal to change the butt on the shockwave? From what I understand, it's considered a "Firearm" because it doesn't have a butt and therefore cannot be considered a "Shotgun". Or do I misunderstand the loophole?
I wouldn't mind having one of those 410 bores for Momma. I have a ball with my 12 ga. Shockwave, and carry it with me whenever I travel, among other things. Heck, I only have 1, 410 bore shotgun. It's a Mossberg model 183-T bolt action that was left to me by my Dad. It's a fun shooter. It patterns way better than that Shockwave, but it has a lot more barrel, too. Good video.
I bought a Henry Axe a couple months back, 410 ammo seems cheaper now for sure than what it was, at least in my area. I’ve actually bought a couple of .410 shotguns to replace my old Mossberg pump model 500 from the late 80s (I used it on squirrels for years, but I’m hard on my “work guns”). Went with a Henry lever action pump. Polymer stock and side loading gate .410, wish this was around 30 years ago. Doubtful I be able to beat this one up like I did the old Mossberg.
i could dig havin one of these. my wife would love it for home defense. best squirrel gun possible in my opinion is the .410, dad got me a single shot new england firearms when i was 7 and taken more squirrel than i could ever count. still loving all your content brotha!
MrMarrok657. I’m 32 still have my .410 England firearms single shot youth my dad got me at about 7 honestly still my favorite gun to legally hunt and shoot squirrels with. Gun still looks as good as the day i got it. It’s light easy to shoot and a squirrel killer. My little ones will start with this gun when it’s time to move up to shotguns. There 6 and almost 5 and been shooting a BB gun over a year n we just moved them up to a 22lr single shot with my guidance of course. I cherish my grand fathers guns and some day they’ll cherish mine, I hope.
Jeremy Wilson damn bud we’re almost the same age and same first name 🤣 thats crazy. im 33. 410 is an underrated shotgun. one of the best made. my daughter who is set to be born today will learn off that same shotgun as well! keep the traditions and knowledge alive brotha!
Jeremy Wilson ended up an emergency c-section but she is doing very well! perfectly healthy and already bein a tough little girl! she’ll fit right into the outdoors.
That looks like a fun unit, didn't like that jam-up or failure of the feeding. ...I haven't purchased a Mossberg yet, but am considering maybe one of the 590A1 series..Oh well Keep you and your family safe and stay healthy. You have a really nice setup there keep the videos coming, we all enjoy them very much.
SB Tactical are good to go! Very good people to work with! Highly recommended! They stand by there product too so if you have any problems they will take care of you!
I have the 12ga with magpul furniture and sb brace. Slugs out of that thing are tough. Even mini shells give you a nice punch. I guess it’s because you just have a buffer tube transferring that energy.
The Henry Axe made me Consider .410 and now I seen this.. awesome compact Blasters. Love em. I picked up a Axe and May consider this one as well. Love em.
I'd love to see a full review on the 590 Shockwave in 12 gauge; to include the usage of the oPsol adapter to run the mini shells. On another note: I'm skeptical about legally running a brace in a shoulder mounted position, as you just did, which is why I haven't removed my bird-head grip yet. Even in the AR pistol platform, I'm skeptical running it shoulder mounted, as I've seen others do too. Maybe you can touch on that aspect as well.
I found a 410 sidesaddle which holds 10 rounds on Etsy for 40.00 found the shells were difficult to get in and out s i used a little sand paper rolled up and sized the holes to a point where i could get shells in and out much easier. I really want to get a heatshield but cant find one. .the side saddle has a rail to mount my crimson trace un to easily
You cannot put a pistol grip and brace on a Shockwave because you will change it's classification from “firearm” to “short barreled shotgun” by doing so. If you do it without a stamp it's a federal felony.Dec 4, 2017?????
I believe the 750fps rating on the Hornady is out of a .410 revolver, like a Judge or a Governor. I would be curious to know what it's doing out of longer barrels.
Check out the Stevens arms 410 single shot people are killing turkeys at 50-60 yards with them And it’s a lot better than hauling a 12 gauge Supermag around the woods and sitting against a tree and launching a 3 1/2 inch shell at a turkey
20 GA is the perfect split for having 4x the stopping power of 9MM but you'll actually want to train with it unlike 12GA. Only downside is the least amount of ammo variety.
My 70-year old mom cleared three teenage thugs out of her house with this .410. They jumped over a four-door fence and left in a real hurry. She used Remington Ultimate Home Defense.
I had a .410 mossberg 500, buckshot effective range 25yds before it hit dirt. 12ga buckshot goes about 75yds before it hits the ground. Huge lack of effective range compared to other shotguns with ammo that is way too expensive
@@SuspiciousGanymede 75 before it hits the ground maybe but effective range with that is 25 yards anyhow because after that it spreads so much that you cant hit anything with accuracy.
i wouldnt mind that setup. i would like one of those mounts that goes between the tube and barrel and has a flashlight mount or rail section. i swap my lights aroundand like qd mounts but i do have a few good lights i could dedicate to it. folding mechanism would really be nice on this to keep it short.
How could someone not like Eric ? He’s one of the friendliest youtuber by far and you can tell he LOVES what he’s doing.
He can be a bit pretentious and maybe too reactive/emotional at times. That's about all I can think of. Don't get me wrong. I love this channel, but Eric and Chad have their dumb moments just like every other human being. I can't fault either of them for it.
He constantly interrupts people like only his opinion matters. Like talking to your wife, your never going to be right and shes never going to be wrong. Erik is defiantly the Robin to Chads Batman. Robin turned out to be a great superhero when he grew up. I just wish in most of his videos with others, someone would walk in and tell him to go wash the batmobile. Or help Alfred with the camera.
@Maso24k Gonna need to back that up with an anecdote or personal experience, if you're gonna talk shit.
And he can play the shit out of a guitar. I know.....I can too!
Because he has 2.63 million subs.
I think 410 is really underrated people think they need a 12 a blow a man to pieces. That has plenty of knock down power. I just don't understand why 410 shells are so expensive
I wouldn't want to get blasted with anything, doesn't matter how powerful it is.
Supply and demand is why they are expensive.
They don’t sell many. With home defense you won’t ever need a box unless your in Chicago.
@@Imwright720It’s called training.
@@TheTrueNorth11 if you need to train with a shotgun you have bigger problems.
The rails do fit, holes are the same on a 12 ga...Pop is 80 now and the 410 is ideal for him being weaker now due to old age. I put a laser on it so he could aim and got him a cool scabbard for the thing. He loves it and named it 'TJ', for Terminator Junior, lol.
Those Desantis scabbard holsters that Midways sells are really cool, work for these and the Henry Axe
So can accessories from a 12g fit this as well? As in a normal pistol grip?
Hey man, so are you saying thr accessories for the 12 gauge will work for this? Because I'm having a nightmare finding accessories
@@PanPhobicProdigy what kind of laser did you put on it. I'm told the Crimson Trace won't work.
@@juliano191 I've put nothing yet:/ having trouble finding something that works with it.
I have the 410 shockwave and it has now taken the place of my single shot snake charmer. I love it!!
A snake charmer was the first shotgun I ever shot. Hadn't seen one in years.
Nice to see you again Eric with shotguns.
Man I wish Barry with you in this video, what a loss.. RIP Barry
We miss Barry
I'm new to the channel what happened?
@@semiprofessional8470 😮
Whats the word on that brace in 2024
For when the quails are loitering on street, eyeing your home suspiciously.
You laugh, but if you were in the process of invading a home and caught a face full of bird-shot (or god forbid, some buck-shot or a slug), you're probably not going to decide to continue with what you were doing, if you're even alive at that point, and I have doubts... Also, as they say, "Fear the man who has only one gun (even if it's "merely" a .410 Pump). He probably knows how to use it. People also doubt the lethality of a semi-auto .22lr varmint gun, but if I mag-dump some .22LR Wasps into your eyes and face, you're gonna be out of the fight, and that's putting it nicely. It's not about the stick. It's about who's swinging it. Mind you, I'm not about to go Bear-hunting with a 10/22 or a .410 Pump. In terms of "varmints of the human variety", though, they will do just fine so long as you know what you're doing.
@Jeffrey Carlson If you think that, you need to get out more.
@Jeffrey Carlson Don't be sorry. Just stop saying stupid shit. Problem solved.
@Jeffrey Carlson Sounds to me like you need to find a shoulder to cry on, and you're not gonna get one out of me. Piss off.
@@MFKR696 get a room you two
When I was kid and we Dove hunted in large sunflower fields with a big group of hunters. We had a old man who killed more birds than anyone with a pump .410. I asked him why he didn't use a 12 or 20 guage. He said he liked the challenge of using the .410 he was deadly with it.
Thank you for this video! My sister and I were looking for a home defense shotgun! We are both 5 ft nothing so this 410 is exactly what we were looking for. After your video we each purchased one and we don’t want a shoot out if an intruder comes! Stop and drop ! Been at the range and we absolutely thank you for making this video!
My son loves his Mossberg 410 shot gun. He uses it all the time even for clay pigeon shooting and he is better than most using a 12 gauge. It would be nice to see this in a semiauto.
I'm shooting in Human
When Erik wants to by a new gun but knows his wife will say he has to many
"Look honey I got you a new gun!" *Shoots it more than her*
2DRUNK2SLOPPY Totally my house too!
I can’t count how many of my guns fall under this....I bought my wife a Lady Smith model 36, a nice little 38 special revolver, but even since that purchase she’s gotten an AR, a couple shottys, a 10/22 or three...and a few other little “goodies for the wife”...
That’s exactly what I say too! She calls me out on it though. Yeah right you didn’t build or buy me that you just wanted another gun. But she does enjoy shooting them. So it works out lol.
Ballistics gel tests on 410 please!
Meat target😅
Just saw a gel test on the Henry Axe,some of these loads are beastly on the gel
A toilet paper bandit would have a very bad day.
Remington: We have the best shotguns.
Moseberg: Lets see about that.
Winchester: *laughs*
Uh...there seems to have been an oversight.
To be honest if we're talking reliability and affordability Remington is a very good option
@@henry410axe9 what about only holding the little 2.5in?
.410 on 4/10! : ) I have one each .410, 20 gauge & 12 gauge Shockwaves. Fun for the whole family.
If you put a larger bead on it should bring down the point of aim so it shouldn’t shoot so high.
The hole pattern is the same as my Mossberg 500. I got my rail from EGW.
Love 410 shotguns!
My friends laughed the first time I broke out my .410 for squirrels.
I just laughed as I spent less time picking out pellets at supper.
Lightning Strike I actually have an old (and apparently pretty rare) Ithaca model 150 20 gauge double barrel, I use it when I want to blow up the squirrel nests in some of my trees, mainly when they have infested one of the barns and I’m sick of missing their quick little asses lol...I usually pick them off with an old High Standard 9 shot 22LR revolver, but there are times when I’m in a hurry and they have ducked into their hiding places after chewing on some of the antiques...
I run a .410 moss pump for the house with a 18.5” barrel. I have zero qualms of it, great gun. They hit harder than they appear, don’t be fooled. That 3” 000 buck shot hits hard. After a complete shoulder rebuild, it’s a game changer for me. Works for me 🤷♂️
Shotguns are nasty, doesn't matter the gauge or caliber.
I see what you did there, featuring a 410 on 4/10... pretty clever! 👍🏼
I love what yall stand for keep doing what you do
The thing i love about this channel is that not only r there great guns here but the people who r also here r very knowledgeable about them
You guys do the best video's of all the "Gun Guy Video Channels" that I watch, honest to God!!! I don't see or hear you guys talk down to the viewers and try to show off how smart you are when it comes to firearms and ammo, plus the video's that you put up are always video's that seem to be for the regular shooters, like stuff as and example, this 410 Shockwave video. I just feel that your video's seem to target the regular shooter and what we like to see...IMHO anyway!!! This is a great video and I love how it has addressed a normal 410 shotgun for normal shooting folks!! I appreciate video's like this and I always find them informative and entertaining!! Thanks for doing what you do guys.
Now, with saying that, they are a BLAST to shoot, right? I literally picked one up yesterday on a whim at Montana Tactical!! I had NO plans on buying any firearms, rather I was in to pick up some 12 Gauge ammo along with some 44 Magnum ammo and I saw another guy looking at one and when he was finished looking at it, I asked if I could check it out? I'd say I looked at it for less than 5 mins and I was SOLD!!!! It just felt good in my hand, a tad small, but I'm a tad big...Hahaha...at 6'6" 300 lbs but that's ok, it'll match up with my Mossberg 590 Nightstick, which I've had for nearly a year and I bought a Brand New Mossberg OEM Wood Stock for it, I also had a Smithy install the Mossberg OEM Ghost Ring Sights on it, a MCarbo Trigger Kit, a Mesa Tactical 6 Round Aluminium Side Saddle, an OPSOL MINI CLIP to shoot the shorty shells, a Red NDZ Extended Safety Switch, a S&J Hardware Bright Green Delrin No-Jam Follower and their Heavy Duty Mag Spring that's made from Chrome Silicon Wire that has a High Tensile Strength when it comes to high temps, so they say and a Magpul RLS Sling in Coyote Brown because it just looked better with the Wood Furniture. It's a sweet looking MINI SHOTGUN and I polished all the internals within a couple of days of bringing it home and between that and just racking it empty while sitting outside or watching the tube, most definitely smoothened things up while NOT costing me a nickel!!! Now, it's as smooth as butter when I operate it.
I'll be doing the some of the same upgrades to the 410 but not nearly as much. This 410 is for my wife and even before we left the shop, it got it's first upgrade. I saw a TRU-GLO FAT-BEAD on the rack and when she saw it, she said that's the front sight she wanted on the 410, so I turned it over and sure enough, it's a 5-40 Thread Size, so we're set there and the due behind the counter asked if she'd like to see it installed on the gun? She said sure, so he removed the factory bead and installed the Fat Bead and she loved it. If you don't have one on your 410, I would like to suggest that it maybe something to consider, unless you're thinking RED-DOT or something else? It's 0.100" in diameter and it's 0.5" in length and the Green is super bright. The Part Number is TG-TG948DG and he just threw it in for FREE....nice, it got it's first upgrade before walking out the door!! Lol....I bought a box of Winchester S410 PDX1 DEFENDER Ammo and they're 2-1/2" Shells that have 3 Disc's ahead of 12 BB Pellets @ 750 FPS and on the way home we stopped by the range to try them and the Shockwave out. Set the target at 18 yards and the Disc's were 2" to the right of centre and the BB's were approx the same 2" and formed about a 12" circle around the Disc's. Not bad for the 1st round out of it. I wouldn't want to get hit with that round...hahahah...it would certainly leave a mark!!! Lol...
I considered buying a SB Brace setup myself. Can you tell me how you like it as far as it's fit and finish and how it feels to the shoulder? Is it a comfortable "stock" to use? I haven't really researched them fully yet, but I think there's 3 major component's, right? The Brace, the piece that connects the brace to the Receiver, then the Pistol Grip, do I have that right? I like the angle that I see from the profile shot of you taking out the targets with ease, Eric!!! You're a really decent shot, sir!!! So far I'm glad I bought one and my wife loves it. We're off to the range again today and we're going to try that Critical Défense ammo that you ran at the beginning of this video and see what it's like compared to the Winchester S410 PDX1 Defender stuff we tried yesterday. Ok, I've yapped on way too long here. Thanks for the great video!!!
Great video Erick, I have a Mossberg 500 12 gauge combo with three barrels, one of which is 18.5". I have been thinking of getting a 500 in .410 for a snake and fun gun, but WOW, I gotta have one of these. What a cool little badass.
Please don't forget the elderly
My 82 year old mother would love this Shockwave
The bead sight on a combat shotgun causes them to shoot higher than with a rib or sights. I believe they were referred to as "Belly Button Guns" in early military use due to the instructions to "aim at their belly button" to ensure a center mass hit.
410 is the perfect home defense load.
You're having way too much fun wish I was there shooting with you Eric thank you for your service
As far as accessories and rails go, I would be happy to custom make some for you if you want. I’ve been designing and 3D printing a bunch of difficult to find accessories for some of my guns with very good results.
I’d be interested, how do we contact you?
I really like how he presents the gun talks shoots tells everything about the gun in detail and you know he knows what he's talking about thank you for the information I have a 12 I'm going toget a 410 as a companion to my judge
Looks fun! If you ever come across one you should pick up a Rossi circuit judge. An 18" barreled 5 shot version of the judge pistol. My wife has really enjoyed hers over the years. The accuracy with 45 lc loads was impressive too.
410 is probably one of the most versatile guns ever made. Thsnks
I’ve been looking for the exact gun since the shockwaves/tacs came out. To me that’s the ideal HD gun for anyone. Lower recoil, compared to 12 and 20. For Easier maneuverability in tight quarters. Less penetration danger to others in the house you don’t want to hurt. The only reason I haven’t purchased one is the lack of accessories on market. Such as shell holders, and so on.
Brown Coat Tactical rifle round nylon saddles work well with 410, plus you can buy extra and slap them on as you need them.
Come on Eric we know you bought that for you lol.
Nice video! The Mossberg 510 Mini Super Bantum is legal in every state and just a few inches longer. The girls all like it and the guys don't want to admit that they prefer it for shotgun plinking.
I have this gun and it is perfect for snakes and home defense. I also have the 20 as well.
I started hunting with a 410 when I was 10 years old . Deer and squirrel mostly. It’s a great shell !
Don’t underestimate it.
10-15 years ago I was all "Ahhh! Raw Power!" But now I'm kinda coming around to a lower recoil more rounds on target and unless they have on armor it'll still suck bad. I'm a big guy and I have big palms but short fingers and gripping large handles correctly is difficult. I like the shape of the walther grips
A red dot would make that a real good contender. That shoots pretty dang high up close. Hard to remember hold overs/unders under stress
Aim at the center and you'll hit 'em.
410 is still my choice for HD inside my home. Take that over my 12 any day for many reasons.
The picatinney rail I had on the receiver of my 20 gauge Mossberg 500 fit right onto my 410 Shockwave. With a Mission First Tactical light mount, I was able to put my Streamlight Protac 2 on top of the receiver. I couldn't find a light mount that would fit out front. For in-the-house range, it hits right about where the light hits. I also put a small cartridge holder on the sling to hold a extra 15rds. It's my atv/walking the dogs gun when in the woods. Now that I see what the arm brace looks like on it, I'm thinking about doing that next.
I've seen deer dropped at close range with a 410 slug. Great home defense weapon for smaller people.
Honestly .410 is pretty fun and useful. Used one to get rid of a pesty chipmunk recently and it worked perfectly
Perfect shotgun for someone of smaller-stature! Awesome!
As a bigger dude i want
For anyone that doesn't want to beat up their wrists & shoulders
I have a mossberg bolt action 410 my grandpa had, it is just a joy to shoot gophers with. Also yes I said bolt action.
What's the model. I have a Mossberg 185DA bolt action in 20 ga
@@dustinshinabargar236 183t 410 ga 3 inch shells
I can only do 2 3/4. I will only shoot light reloads because of the firing pin. With federal upland game they have double powder loads
@@dustinshinabargar236 mine shoots 3 inch fine but it definitely likes 2 1/2 best. I have to constantly clean mine cause of a weak firing pin. When its dirty it does light primer strikes and doesnt light the shell
Check out numrich arms or ebay they should have a firing pin or firing pin spring. Im just going to machine me a new firing pin
Amazing love your work Eric
5 Months and 18 days till I turn 18. Thinking about getting a Mossberg 500.
Dont ,i have a moss 88 better go whith a used 870 Remington ,they are cheap and good ,or an auto 5
Or an Wincheste\ Ithica the slum fire is sweet...
Get a 500a1
Go to the LGS and get a feel for them. Decide what you want, be safe with it. Train and have fun!
@@efirizaki5656 The Mavericks just aren't up to the same quality standards as the 500s. A 500 would serve just fine.
@@AcidicThought Got a couple hundred rounds through my Maverick 88 and haven't had any problems. The fit and finish probably aren't as nice as the 500s or 590s, but it's the same action at heart and eats anything I feed it.
The 410 is becoming more popular with all the new ammo choices available. Federal now makes a great 410 tungsten turkey load. Imagine shooting Turkeys with a 410.
Thanks man. Y’all just made me order a brace for my Shockwave!
We call THE 410, The Kitchen Round.... Great to have available to entire family , JUDGE sits in our kitchen 😀👍
The Judge is a horrible choice for home defence.
@@bobsmith-ru7xp here we go...
@@bobsmith-ru7xp you stand in front of me in my living room and take a PDX round and then tell me if you stand by the comment. You won’t be alive to revise that statement.
@@BirdDog. It will work if it's all you got I suppose. There is absolutly nothing it does, that a .45 handgun, or a pump action shotgun doesn't do far superiorer.
@@bobsmith-ru7xp all which will go through my walls and kill my children. I promise you aren’t walking away from an.410 point blank. Why people argue is beyond me.
"Where the hell do you put the bayonet?"
-Chesty Puller
Real soldiers make one
Isn't it illegal to change the butt on the shockwave? From what I understand, it's considered a "Firearm" because it doesn't have a butt and therefore cannot be considered a "Shotgun". Or do I misunderstand the loophole?
Partridge gun. Less meat damage and easily deployed from the truck.
I wouldn't mind having one of those 410 bores for Momma. I have a ball with my 12 ga. Shockwave, and carry it with me whenever I travel, among other things. Heck, I only have 1, 410 bore shotgun. It's a Mossberg model 183-T bolt action that was left to me by my Dad. It's a fun shooter. It patterns way better than that Shockwave, but it has a lot more barrel, too. Good video.
this is dope!! I definitely want this small compact shotgun with little recoil 410s are mean
Really like that setup. Just hate the price of 410 ammo.
Yea 410 is super pricey
Load your own and it becomes very cheap.
@@viaoutdoors 410 think it stay the same. It whent up the last crises plus that when 410 judges where pretty popular.
@@jamespugh ugh that craze was rough
I bought a Henry Axe a couple months back, 410 ammo seems cheaper now for sure than what it was, at least in my area. I’ve actually bought a couple of .410 shotguns to replace my old Mossberg pump model 500 from the late 80s (I used it on squirrels for years, but I’m hard on my “work guns”). Went with a Henry lever action pump. Polymer stock and side loading gate .410, wish this was around 30 years ago. Doubtful I be able to beat this one up like I did the old Mossberg.
i could dig havin one of these. my wife would love it for home defense. best squirrel gun possible in my opinion is the .410, dad got me a single shot new england firearms when i was 7 and taken more squirrel than i could ever count. still loving all your content brotha!
MrMarrok657. I’m 32 still have my .410 England firearms single shot youth my dad got me at about 7 honestly still my favorite gun to legally hunt and shoot squirrels with. Gun still looks as good as the day i got it. It’s light easy to shoot and a squirrel killer. My little ones will start with this gun when it’s time to move up to shotguns. There 6 and almost 5 and been shooting a BB gun over a year n we just moved them up to a 22lr single shot with my guidance of course. I cherish my grand fathers guns and some day they’ll cherish mine, I hope.
Jeremy Wilson damn bud we’re almost the same age and same first name 🤣 thats crazy. im 33. 410 is an underrated shotgun. one of the best made. my daughter who is set to be born today will learn off that same shotgun as well! keep the traditions and knowledge alive brotha!
MrMarrok657...bring them up right!
Hope hope all went well with the scheduled delivery.
Jeremy Wilson ended up an emergency c-section but she is doing very well! perfectly healthy and already bein a tough little girl! she’ll fit right into the outdoors.
It may only be a 410 but a shell to the torso will probably alter you're plans for the weekend 😉
Eric: You know, the price of .410 ammo has really gone down over the last few years...
2020: hold my beer...
I don't own a 410 but I haven't seen a box since the start of covid. It's up there in rarity with 357 mag, 38 spc, 44 mag and special
The TSS Turkey tungsten shot are great for hunting turkey
How many gold bars per shot?
Chris Garman it is a little expensive a box of 10 cost 20 odd some dollars
@@user-dt9qe8wo6u it's usually mid $40s for 5 shells.
schottiey I’ve seen them range from 20s to 50s it’s all about the store and the area.
@@Chris_Garman lol looks like everyone just guesses
That looks like a fun unit, didn't like that jam-up or failure of the feeding. ...I haven't purchased a Mossberg yet, but am considering maybe one of the 590A1 series..Oh well Keep you and your family safe and stay healthy. You have a really nice setup there keep the videos coming, we all enjoy them very much.
Lol! Those sodas were awesome when shot! They twirled around like those spinning fireworks minus the sparks, flame, and smoke. Very cool either way!
I put a fiber optic sight that clips onto the barrel of my 12 gauge shockwave, it is taller than the stock bead which makes it hit point of aim.
Seems like finding a 1913 rail and slapping on a little red dot is kind of a must on this thing
SB Tactical are good to go! Very good people to work with! Highly recommended! They stand by there product too so if you have any problems they will take care of you!
As always first class work
We love you, brother!
Please do a “ How far will a .410 kill video” if you haven’t. I don’t recall seeing one.
I'd love to see ballistic gel test on this with slugs/00/000buck/critical defense/other defense loads.
Just did my paperwork on the 12. Good review. Looks like my wife needs the 410.
It would be interesting to see .410 slugs in ballistics gel. Never seen any like that Golden Bear...pretty cool.
Eric can you do a barrel meltdown on a ruger mini 14?
I have the 12ga with magpul furniture and sb brace. Slugs out of that thing are tough. Even mini shells give you a nice punch. I guess it’s because you just have a buffer tube transferring that energy.
The Henry Axe made me Consider .410 and now I seen this.. awesome compact Blasters. Love em. I picked up a Axe and May consider this one as well. Love em.
This is on my list. Now.
I'd love to see a full review on the 590 Shockwave in 12 gauge; to include the usage of the oPsol adapter to run the mini shells. On another note: I'm skeptical about legally running a brace in a shoulder mounted position, as you just did, which is why I haven't removed my bird-head grip yet. Even in the AR pistol platform, I'm skeptical running it shoulder mounted, as I've seen others do too. Maybe you can touch on that aspect as well.
It's legal Remington sells tac14s braced
It's not a legal issue involving the actual use, as it is more concerning the intended use. Intended use is as a shooting brace.
My guess is Brandy will never shhot it.
It seems like he buys half his guns for Brandy but I doubt she knows about most of them lol
@@ramboxlegacy14 in that case let's hope she doesn't watch RUclips 🤔
Now that makes sense for that little 410 in the shockwave configuration
I found a 410 sidesaddle which holds 10 rounds on Etsy for 40.00 found the shells were difficult to get in and out s i used a little sand paper rolled up and sized the holes to a point where i could get shells in and out much easier. I really want to get a heatshield but cant find one. .the side saddle has a rail to mount my crimson trace un to easily
Buddy be wearing the hell out that fender hat 🎸
I have a .410 trapper with a 12" barrel. Winchester super x rifled slugs are the only ones I found group well.
I figured you were doing the .410 shotgun video because it was 4/10/20. Coincidence, probably not.
You cannot put a pistol grip and brace on a Shockwave because you will change it's classification from “firearm” to “short barreled shotgun” by doing so. If you do it without a stamp it's a federal felony.Dec 4, 2017?????
I believe the 750fps rating on the Hornady is out of a .410 revolver, like a Judge or a Governor. I would be curious to know what it's doing out of longer barrels.
I have the same setup. However, I'm running a Hi-Viz front sight. Much nicer over the bead!
I have the longer suppressed barrel version, I love it
Nothing more cool than a pump shot-gun.
Almost all modern semi auto center fire rifles are for starters 😂
Barrett M107A1
My vepr12 would agrue otherwise
Its not a shotgun. Its a firearm😉
Check out the Stevens arms 410 single shot people are killing turkeys at 50-60 yards with them
And it’s a lot better than hauling a 12 gauge Supermag around the woods and sitting against a tree and launching a 3 1/2 inch shell at a turkey
20 GA is the perfect split for having 4x the stopping power of 9MM but you'll actually want to train with it unlike 12GA. Only downside is the least amount of ammo variety.
That hornady ammo velocity rating is for a revolver. Should be a bit higher from a 14” barrel with no cylinder gap.
Love your videos, keep it up.
Love the videos, keep it up yall
Pull a Taofledermaus and turn the #9 shot into wax slugs. Wicked, immediate, catastrophic energy dump. Minimal collateral damage.
Who do you think started the wax slugs thanks Barry
lol if you only knew....
@@letsgobrandontrump2024 I'm happy to be corrected. Thank you.
I bought my m&kb sport II 15 and molot vepr because of this guy. Love your gun reviews Eric. Can you review a fnh scar-h?
My 70-year old mom cleared three teenage thugs out of her house with this .410. They jumped over a four-door fence and left in a real hurry. She used Remington Ultimate Home Defense.
Sweet little beggar thanks for the vid
Why is the .410 so under rated ?? I have a saga 410. Just that ammunition is so expensive. Thank you
I had a .410 mossberg 500, buckshot effective range 25yds before it hit dirt. 12ga buckshot goes about 75yds before it hits the ground. Huge lack of effective range compared to other shotguns with ammo that is way too expensive
@Lightning Strike There is still 20guage for people who want something in the middle too.
@Lightning Strike Last I looked it is more common than 410 but it has been awhile since I looked.
@@SuspiciousGanymede 75 before it hits the ground maybe but effective range with that is 25 yards anyhow because after that it spreads so much that you cant hit anything with accuracy.
i wouldnt mind that setup.
i would like one of those mounts that goes between the tube and barrel and has a flashlight mount or rail section. i swap my lights aroundand like qd mounts but i do have a few good lights i could dedicate to it.
folding mechanism would really be nice on this to keep it short.
I love me some 410
I just ordered an M1 Carbine from Big Daddy after your IG post. Very reasonable prices.
Big Daddy ?
Eric H. BigDaddyunlimited Didnt post link so channel doesnt get in trouble
@@bradbo3 Ok, thx. 👊🏼😄