Why Zoro & Sanji VS Law & Kid IS Close
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- Why Zoro & Sanji VS Law & Kid Is Close
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The 2 wings of Luffy Vs the 2 supernovas who took down an emperor, who would win if these two duos were to come head to head? Well today me and aero will be doing our best to answer the question and go over all possible scenarios. I’m gonna get called bias regardless, so let us just spread the gospel for y’all today. Roronoa Zoro, also known as "Pirate Hunter" Zoro,[ is the combatant of the Straw Hat Pirates, one of their two swordsmen, one of the Senior Officers of the Straw Hat Grand Fleet, and is publicly recognized as the right-hand man of his crew's captain Monkey D. Luffy. Formerly a bounty hunter, he is the second member of Luffy's crew and the first to join it, doing so in the Romance Dawn Arc. Born in the East Blue, Zoro is the son of Tera and Roronoa Arashi, the grandson of Shimotsuki Furiko and Roronoa Pinzoro, and the grandnephew of Shimotsuki Ushimaru, making him a matrilineal descendant of both the Shimotsuki Family of Wano Country and the legendary samurai, Shimotsuki Ryuma. As a master of Three Sword Style, a swordsmanship style which he created during his childhood training in Shimotsuki Village, Zoro is among the three most powerful combatants of the Straw Hats, alongside Luffy and Sanji, who are referred to as the "Monster Trio". His dream is to become the greatest swordsman in the world, in order to honor a promise he made to his deceased childhood friend Kuina. "Black Leg" Sanji, born as Vinsmoke Sanji, is the cook of the Straw Hat Pirates and one of the Senior Officers of the Straw Hat Grand Fleet. He is the fifth member of the crew and the fourth to join, doing so at the end of the Baratie Arc. Born as the third son and fourth child of the Vinsmoke Family (thus, making him a former prince of the Germa Kingdom), he disowned his family twice, once in his youth and again after reuniting with them as an adult. After fleeing the Vinsmokes as a child, he eventually entered the care of Zeff as the sous chef of the Baratie, where he would remain until he met Monkey D. Luffy, who convinced him to join his crew. His dream is to find the rumored chef's paradise, All Blue, which is where East Blue, West Blue, North Blue, and South Blue meet, along with their wildlife. He is one of the top three fighters of the Straw Hats, alongside Luffy and Zoro, who are referred to as the "Monster Trio". Trafalgar D. Water Law, more commonly known as just Trafalgar Law and by his epithet as the "Surgeon of Death", is a pirate from the North Blue and the captain and doctor of the Heart Pirates. He is one of twelve pirates who are referred to as the "Worst Generation". He became one of the Seven Warlords of the Sea during the timeskip, but his position was revoked for allying with the Straw Hat Pirates. Eventually, his bounty would be raised for his role in taking down Big Mom of the Four Emperors alongside Eustass Kid during the Wano Country Arc. Law joins forces with the Straw Hat Pirates for a brief moment during the Sabaody Archipelago Arc and later on saves Luffy's life at the very end of the Marineford Arc. He is one of the central allies of the Straw Hat Pirates during the Dressrosa, Whole Cake Island, and Wano Country Sagas. He also acts as an ally of the Straw Hat Pirates during the movies One Piece: Stampede and One Piece Film: Red. Eustass Captain Kid is a notorious pirate from the South Blue and the captain of the Kid Pirates. During Luffy's two years of training, Kid challenged one of the Four Emperors, Shanks, but lost one of his arms in the process. He attempted to form an alliance with the On Air Pirates and Hawkins Pirates to challenge the Red Hair Pirates once more, but the alliance fell apart after an attack from another Emperor, Kaidou, which led to his imprisonment at Wano Country and where he would eventually reunite with Luffy. Though nominally acting in self-interest towards vengeance and glory, Kid's assistance towards the Ninja-Pirate-Mink-Samurai Alliance was instrumental in defeating Kaidou, Big Mom and the Beasts Pirates. One Piece (stylized in all caps) is a Japanese manga series written and illustrated by Eiichiro Oda. It has been serialized in Shueisha's shōnen manga magazine Weekly Shōnen Jump since July 1997, with its individual chapters compiled into 104 tankōbon volumes as of November 2022.
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I feel like in general, Sanji is often underestimated. Bro has speed, ap, durability and a healing factor with observation that would make it so Kid wouldn't get a clean shot without Law's help
And I think Zoro's Haki is just strong enough to not be affected by either of their fruits the way BM and Kaidou weren't
Zoro definately isnt on kaido or big mom levels of haki so he would get teleported and kids df doesnt really get negated until he uses awakening and still big mom couldnt break free or negate it.
No way that Zoro can negate Law's fruit like BM and Kaido can when Doflamingo, someone who is a confirmed conquerors haki user couldn't negate... Zoro has JUST awakened conquerors, he is a baby advanced conquerors user.
@@adoniscreed4031doflamingo doesn’t have acoc like zoro. Acoc is basically just like wearing conquerors, if law could figure out how to negate doc q fruit, zoro whos much better and has a better understanding of haki would def be able to negate laws fruit
Zoro's haki nowhere near BM's
@@LeonPlayzzz doesn’t need to be, his haki just has to be vastly stronger than laws. Bm haki could be like lvl 1000 while zoros is lvl100, law haki like lvl 10 so he still wouldn’t be able to move zoro
Sanji is damn near a lunarian at this point. Speed to the point Queen thought he was invisible and durability to tank a fucking Seraphins attack nonchalantly. His observation is better than them all them and he sent a fucking Yonko Commander Zoan user flying with his attacks. Kidd is not weak but it’s a terrible matchup for him to fight Sanji with his Speed. Zoros Conquerors haki infused attacks is an huge x-factor in this fight. Straw hats with the W
Fuck these zorotards make this zoro vs law and kid at this point what is the point of adding sanji in there
Why is sanji being underrated so much he is faster than all of them and he has better dura because of his germa genes he has the best observations out if them all idk why you guys are saying he is the weakest you have to put in factor without the genes being unlocked he was holding off king and queen while zoro was getting heald then he still went on the fight King and idk why you put zoro above law and kid zoro and sanji are equal and law and kid are both stronger and have more hax
He is not faster than no one in this video😂 that queen feat is only impressive relative to queens speed. Someone faster than queen would be able to see sanji. All of them have speed feats that make them relative to a hybrid kaido.
@@kemontarussell1156sanji absolutely destroyed queen when he got his germa powers, meanwhile zoro had met the grim reaper because he was getting his butt kicked by king, i get king might be a little stronger than queen but for sanji to basically no diff queen and with king being quite similar in power with queen i would say sanji is one of the strongest there
@@sanjo5932 king is far stronger and faster than queen. King has been shown blitzing zoro who was able to keep up with hybrid kaido and tanked attacks that scarred that same kaido(this is before he unlocked koh so he'd be stronger and faster facing king). Queen has no feats comparable to that. Zoro,kid, and law have faster combat and reaction speed.
@@kemontarussell1156 when sanji had perception blitzed queen he was in base form, that means sanji in base is so fast that queen (a yonko commander) thought he disappeared, oda already confirmed that in diable jambe and in infrit jambe sanji gets a massive speed and damage boast from his flames so his infrit jambe speed will be many times faster than base which means if he were to fight and try against king he would blitz him too. but not only does sanji have the speed he has the strength and durability too, he is able to regenerate broken bones and is strong enough to kick queen across and island and make him scream in agony from his kicks!! and a recent feat for sanji’s durability is in chapter 1078 where he full on tanks a jinbe Seraphim attack with fish karate and btw it’s stated that the Seraphims have kings lunarian race in all of them and yet sanji is literally unfazed by the attack and didn’t move a inch from it.
@@sanjo5932 i just explained how king and queen arent comparable. You know king did the same thing to zoro in the manga when he turned off his flames right? Hes not blitzing king. Even with his exoskeleton zoro and law has durablity negation which bypasses that. Sanji is outclassed here. Zoro wasnt even able to harm him with dura neg attacks when his flames on. He doesnt have the ap to hang with king. The serphim through a regular punch. It had no haki or anything. Did he defeat the seraphim? No. King has tanked attacks thats harmed KAIDO. I dont even know why this is a debate
Pretty good video but I think you missed a couple of important points:
1. Damned Punk is pretty slow, and seemingly only hit big mom because she was distracted by law, and even then could not significantly harm big mom, she tanked the attack twice and didn't seem to receive any permanent damage from it.
2. Zoro's strongest attack, asura, is fast as hell, managing to speed blitz kaido, who is seemingly both faster and more durable than big mom, and is probably stronger too since it managed to permanently scar kaido.
Putting that into consideration, I think the matchup is a lot more in favour of zoro and sanji, since zoro could probably one shot both of them with ease, and given sanji's speed and observation haki I dont think either law or kidd especially could tag him or even react to him. Plus if on top of zoro's asura sanji activates ifrit jambe, the match is pretty much over since the sheer speed and power of ifrit could probably be enough to distract both of them long enough for zoro to pick them off.
Zoro didn’t really speed blitz kaido.
Zoro never speed blitzed kaido what?💀 he outpaced him and this is a heavily suppressed kaido who he still went relative to. Also funny how these dudes say the unrealistic scenario is that kidd and law can use their fruits to their best abillity when kidd not only uses his fruit’s utility to its fullest against big mom but the only reason law couldnt do so was because big mom and kaido’s haki was too strong. Zoro doesnt have that same lvl of haki so naturally law would be able to asw. In a 2v2 kidd and law take this low diff
Yea Law and Kidd takes this tho i wouldnt call it low diff but they're definitely winning
He’s doing tricks on it
@@DarkUser5856yeah I’d say the same like mid-high diff ish
I think Zoro and Sanji (post "genetic awakening" from Sanji, and post mastering haochoku coating from Zoro) together would be able to defeat Big Mom as well
They forgot abt wa sanji was able to do in the manga speed wise:he was able to move so fast he disappeared meaning he'll speed blitz kidd
So you’re saying Sanji is too fast for Kidd which means Sanji no diffs Kidd. That also mean Sanji no diffs Law also because he’s “too fast”. Lemme guess, he’s taking out BIg Mom too 😔. Who let this guy cook? Remove him from the kitchen 🗣️ 🔥.
@@bigdom3970 jhit all I said was manga Sanji was able to move at a speed so fast he disappeared nb said anything Abt him no diff kidd and law
@@bigdom3970 btw wsg papi😩
But you forget to mention that he will run out of stamina that he won’t be able to move and fight anymore! So it’s a limited power up
@@Khaled68335 Anyone runs out of stamina with time.. that aint a excuse
Matt is always drawing up some heat as usual
Amazing video💯
You should prolly involve Kid's awakening hax as well. You cant dodge the damn punk if he magnetizes tou and pulls you to it. When he pulled out damn punk on the fleet, everuthing got pulled into it.
Zoro would one shot kidd
@@imafkingbeastandrewtateise9563
Fuck no baby 😭😭
It’s pretty refreshing to see the words “close” instead of “not close” in a power scaling video title for once.
Good idea for a video... in terms of abilities I gotta give it to Law and Kid... team work is a big factor though and although Law and Kid work really well together, Zoro and Sanji work in perfect synergy when they work together. They could cover each other well enough to overcome Law and Kid's fruits ablities IMO and they definitely have enough strength and durability to get the W
I thought this said isn’t close… I was gonna say bruh you pissed me off for the last time 😂
I actually have sanji above kid just because sanji actually uses and trains his haki while kid never uses it and refuses to use his fruits potential by only making tech
dont forget oda has been potraying law and kid as luffy's rivals since sabody arc. putting them below luffy's commanders is a disrespect to luffy himself
goat dropped
Beyond outerversel omnipotent
Bro do you actually draw your Thumbnails? Cuz they're actually incredible
3 things weren't mentioned.
-Zoro knows how Kid and Law fight pre-awakening so he should have an idea of what they can do.
-Zoro should be able to fill his sword with haki to resist Kid's fruit.
-Sanji and Zoro should be able to resist Law's fruit via their haki.
Honestly, the only way Kid and Law win is everything going their way and that's not likely to happen. Even then it would be an extreme diff win on their part.
How tf does thier haki stop laws df pls explain tylearned if you can explain too
@@IMRTLDANwhen kid tells law to use shambles on kaido and big mom he says i can't cuz of their haki
dog law fucked up big mom and her haki is far superior to zoro and sanji
Law was still able to freely teleport Zoro so idk if thats true.
@@cme2634cuz he let him, Haki isn’t active all the time
Wish I would’ve found this channel months ago
Its possible Law won't be able to shambles Sanji and Zoro to another location inside his room if they have their Haki on. Law still can shamble Kid and other objects. But that's still a theory because their Haki still might be too weak. It's still highly likely that Law can't shambles Zoro and Sanji because of their Haki. Another factor is that they can be weakened, and their Haki can be rendered inactive during the battle. Thier are a lot a factor when debating on 4 characters they haven't been shown at their best in certain parts of the manga and anime. One thing I think play's a key role is their stamina consumption, because law and kid have been shown to use stamina quick because of their DF.
law shambles doflamingo pre wano lets be real sanjis haki isnt on the level of doflamingo
@@lestonclark2398 doflamingo's haki wasn't shown all that great, someone like queen would by default possess greater haki, as if doflamingo's was greater, kaido never would've mentioned him being weak as he doesn't consider someone like jack to be weak, jack being inferior to queen, who sanji is superior to in every way, if queen's haki was superior to sanji's, sanji would've taken damage when clashing with him, as luffy did with katakuri in WCI due to possessing inferior haki when compared to his opponent.
@@lestonclark2398 sani and zoro haki >>>>>>>>..doffy haki
Maybe if you was talking about before wano their haki would have been weaker but currently in manga and anime definitely not lmaoo zoro and sanji haki currently>>>>>>>>>>>>> doffy's level of haki.@@lestonclark2398
Good video idk what else to comment but I wanna get these comments up
What I imagine is kid trying to take zoros swords but he can’t so he uses metal around him to increase the magnetic strength but the all the debris gets flung at zoro instead of flinging zoros swords were he fires it at law with a flip and the sanji jumps out on top of it and gets a direct hit on kid
I'd say it's really close but the ope ope no mi really makes law and kid a slippery pair of opponents for either zoro or sanji to get hits on.
3:28 and when someone attacks the boat while he’s sleep😂
I have a request can you do a vid on zatch bell and how strong he is
2:09 i thought everyone knew that didn't he saw his fleet getting destroyed so he stepped in
We all saw how big mom was affected by kidds magnetism attack even while she was using some form of haki .
If big mom was affected by him what do you think Zoro's swords gonna do ?
So your saying kid’s durability is on the same level as big mom? If not, then make it clearer Next time
@@propz345 fam what
@@plsnotme you didn’t understand what I said?
@@propz345 well it seems like u didn’t understand the original comment innit
@@plsnotme I know he was talking about how zoro wasn’t gonna damage big mom but that’s such cap. Zoro is miles ahead of kid in haki, strength ap, durability not to mention endurance and etc
Can I you turn those thumbnail pics into pfps
I always forget one piece isn't purely about strength vs strength but it's about battle iq and the character's personality
For power scaling it all comes down to strength
@@Smd249nah yoy gotta look at everything the only person in op who just beat their opponent by strength is zoro
@@robinn384 how do you think people win fights?
@@Smd249 skills and hax or some type of circumstance like how a lot of the worlds strongest got beat in one piece
Kidd was capable of running a strength - tanking build against Big Mom, while Law was playing deadly on support. Zoro definitely has comparatively higher scaling than the rest, and works well with Sanji, however I don't feel either of them necessarily can stick up to the DP and hax of the Supernova duo.
Law and Kidd take it imo, good scaling though Tylearned
Nah fam Kidd nerfs law just by being there. Dude is a hazard to his Allie’s he’s so worthless. Literally trash.
I disagree on feats bc oda said during dressrosa that zoro was comparable to gear 4 and he’s only got stronger with advanced haki. During the rooftop zoro did better than even luffy at first.
@@tywanhorton7703dessorsa luffy is actually fodder and he was definitely not on par with luffy
Sanji blitzes kidd
Sanji perception blitzes kid and has the ap to have queen screaming in pain in hybrid form from every kick
The Kidd treatment is getting unfair. This guy can actually fight metal hand to hand with Big Mom according to the anime and let’s not forget that before Luffy G5 did it, Kidd did slam Kaido on his ass too. It’s very hard to debate who would win between Kidd and Sanji because they both have win conditions. On one hand Sanji can just speed blitz and hit Kidd with the same combo he did on Queen but on the other hand Kidd can just use his Battle IQ to assign Sanji the moment he gets close and turn him into a magnet. That way no matter how much Sky Walking Sanji does or attempts to blitz he’s getting hit by something it’s inevitable. Also you’d have to assume that Sanji has the AP to take out Kidd’s tanky forms with just his kicks when even Kaido couldn’t completely take out Kidd’s armors while he did get laid out a few times though. Also not to mention, Kidd has CRAZY durability and endurance so that’s where him and Sanji have to closest similarities. Because of the fruit I’m saying Kidd has the edge but realistically, the way he got blitzed by Shanks, Sanji should be able to do it too. 60/40
I fail to understand why you mentioned the kidd treatment being unfair, while proceeding to mention that kidd would defeat sanji 60/40 times, which Tylearned, showed a graph that had sanji as the weakest of the four, leading to the implication that sanji would lose to kidd if they were to combat one another. Your entire comment was based on the premise that kidd was being treated and by extension scaled unfairly, while then mentioning he has a close bout with sanji but comes out with the victory most of the time, which is coherent to what was mentioned in the video
@@mushy5960 I’m talking about the community. There’s so many Kidd haters it’s kinda crazy.
@@user-ds5fb8kx1o but you see how that lacks relevance here right? Sure you’re not wrong about kidd generally being underrated and falsely scaled, but I don’t believe I saw a person who mentioned kidd being weak or scaling him lower than where he would logically scale, simply trying to tell you it’d be far more applicable a comment to make towards someone actively underrating him
@@mushy5960 So you just wanted a comment to nitpick or something? I’m confused 😹You uh…have a nice day friend
@@user-ds5fb8kx1o not really, it’s just illogical to mention something no one here is remotely disagreeing with, like joining a madara vs hashirama debate talking about how madaras susanoo is underrated, it simply lacks relevance, im not disagreeing with you so I’m not really knit picking, I just don’t see the point in specifically mentioning it here
Whoever edited this video probs to you 👍
Did you make this video before or I’m I thinking of someone else
Note: I'm talking about some other fans.
What some delusional people don't understand is,
Zoro: Endurance and Attack
Sanji: Defence and Speed
That's how they balance as wings of the king.
I think the speed of zoro and sanji are a nightmare for kid. Big mom was the prefect foe for kid because she’s a raid boss. She just kinda sits there chasing law. And law teleporting won’t work on this duo like big mom. Issue with the law and kid feats is big mom is just goofy. She’s slow and doesn’t think through any of her attacks. Zoro and sanji won’t be free like that and for that reason I give the win to them. Even tho I know law and kid are stronger. This is a mis match
Sanji could’ve been a Supernova if his bounty was 100,000,000 in the pre timeskip
feel like yall kinda downplayed sanjis durability here. he tanked a straight fist from a pacifista, a reminder that one single slash from S-hawk cut off a mountain. and sanji tanked someone close to that pacifista with a wide smile. damned punk would fuck him up but its not strong as or stronger than the attack kaido and big mom pulled which is the only thing that could incapacitate sanji.
I’m about to watch the video but I don’t get peoples logic. Zoro literslly was better then kid and law in every way in the roof. So before power ups he’s definitively over them off feats. Then kid and law use awakening and zoro gets ACOC. ACoC made luffy in base immensely stronger then boundman, the same form already stronger then kid and law. So if zoro is starting off stronger then kid and law and gets a a buff as immense as that how do kid or law win? There’s new awakenings are kind of mid, kid can stick or repel stuff to you “if he touches you.” And law has a better version of gamma knife. They both only landed it with set up from the other, off guard, and mind you she’s a big slow target that’s acting pretty incompetent because of narrative reasons. 1 on 1 with a smaller and faster character with better reaction speed isn’t getting hit as often. Plus the attacks didn’t even best big mom, she would’ve won if not for the hole in the floor. Reminder king is a lunarian with a ANCIENT ZOAN, his durability is compared to kaido but just doesn’t have similar endurance or haki. Zoro for shot him while tired, on a time limit, and with a range disadvantage. Just because kid and law fought a yonko y’all say their stronger, that was their match up for plot reasons not strength. If you replace zoro with kid I’m pretty sure they do minimum just as good if not better. Y’all only argue for it because they didn’t fight a yonko. That’s like saying Goku can’t destroy a planet because we never seen it. Just because we don’t see it doesn’t mean he can’t do it. Just like we haven’t seen zoro fight big mom but that doesn’t mean he can’t, how well he performs is a different question. But if luffys buff had him fighting kaido in base with extra gear 4 forms, then I can say zoro should be able to fight big mom in base with a possible ashura. Slicing damage being a plus he’d either win extreme high dif or lose high dif. Either or it’s better then what kid or law could do 1 on 1. Half his bones broke and fatigued but scarred hybrid kaido but you don’t think he could scar or do more damage to big mom? She broke her arm getting slammed into a building by hakiless metal, I’m giving it to zoro and sanji. I don’t even mention sanji, but how are you gonna teleport to evade when you can’t see him? They don’t have good enough observation feats to argue against it and I don’t see law taking multiple ifrit janbei attacks head on.
Regardless of the outcome, just remember Tylearned had to search "chopper's butt" to put it in the video
I don't know why people think Zoro wasn't at full hp fighting king. The mink medicine brought him back to full hp just on a time limit
he wasnt go reread bum
@@SeeJvy He was. The downside was that after he fought he will be in a worse state
Soon Enough I Am Going To Become The Most Dangerous Member Of This Crew
If you didn’t realize that kid was gonna destroy shanks fleet it make sense why you have such and takes you can’t read lol
people need to realize that stats aren’t everything if we remember sanji and zoro are in complete synergy even without talking to each other and are complete opposites so they cover each others weaknesses perfectly plus zoro knows law and kid’s abilities while sanji is a complete wild card since neither of them have seen him fight with a perfect team going against a team that doesn’t know anything about one of the other fighters law and kid dont stand a chance
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If Law got hit by Zoro's advanced Conqueror's haki attack, it's game over for him. Sanji's speed and mobility would be a great help for Zoro to land powerful attacks. When needed, Sanji's versatile fighting skills is great to wear out his opponents, if Queen, a durable Zoan user got his ass kicked, humans like Law and Kid wouldn't be able to tank better than Queen
They could've just ran out of the circle 😂
In my opinion it seems unlikely for Enma to just be sucked away cuz it has like a mind if it's own and chose Zoro, so if Kid pulled away Zoro's swords then chances are Zoro would "get lucky" and Enma would find a way back to him. Sanji would be a fantastic distraction, he would poke at Law/Kidd and his invisibility would also be helpful. With Sanji there, the supernovas would probably be stalled enough for Zoro to get some opportunities to decimate them. Cuz if Zoro manages to land 1 full juicy hit on Law, even if he don't immediately die, it becomes a 2 on 1 for a short period which is ggs for Kidd, which leaves Law with no chance. Also, if Sanji can stall Kidd enough to keep him away from Zoro (He probably can by using crazy speed and invisibility to disorient Kidd), Zoro takes the W against Law and they can finish off weakened Kidd together. Kinda what Tylearned said.
Sanji has low ap it’s the only thing keeping him from being 1st commander level even then he still is vulnerable to large aoe attacks
Queen was a tank and got fucked up by a combo where he didn't even use his strongest attacks I don't think sanji's AP is that lacking its definitely above Marco who is clearly above king and queen and he has worse regen but better speed and way better durability and endurance.
@@TheElectriczilqueen got bled from chopper 💀
@@TheElectriczil Marcos ap is higher than sanji..
Its not close lol
Zoro one shot neg diffs Law
While Sanji can at least hold Kidd back
Zoro vs Law is SO FUCKING ONE SIDED we don't even realize it
Zoro even on roof top was massively faster than Law..so much faster than Zoro can run and stop Hakai before Law could even more his fingers.
Luffy vs Kizaru shows us that AdvCoC boosts speed and all stats hence why Kizaru was trolling CoC less Luffy but got wrecked by CoC Luffy and wasn't able to dodge him.
So with CoC Speed boost, Law would get completely blitz.
Then there is humongous gap in Haki, with Zoro's CoA being several tiers above, Zoro having AdvCoC barriers which can damn near block everything Law has including Kroom while Law can not block any of Zoro's even CoC Less roof top Offense.
He was shitting himself when Zoro scarred Kaido with Ashura.
So Zoro basically beats Law low difficulty. Its not even a fight, like straight slaughter. More one sided than Law vs Blackbeard
Then Zoro stomps Kidd who can barely even handle Sanji.
So Zoro and Sanji (Or Dare I say) Mostly Zoro alone low diffs the team of Law and Kidd
Imo Law is the most overrated charakter when it comes to straight on Duels. People love to overrate him bc he looks cool it's same with Shanks.
A good point that wasn’t mentioned and or factored was the Hali resistance towards laws Devi fruit. In both wano and during the encounter with black beard and his crew, law undid Doc Q’s fruit with his Haki and had trouble using his power against Kaido.
it was mentioned multiple times though not worded with the references you’re mentioning, they stated that Zoro would have no problem against Laws fruit but there’s nothing to say Sanji can’t be TP’d or cut in half by Laws room. that’s how they phrased it which is basically telling us the same thing, Zoro’s haki resistance > Sanji.
BUT I think that if Doffy can react the a Law Room slash and block/redirect it, than Sanji can react to Law swiping his sword in the room and dodge away from the intended slash in time. it’s not like a Domain expansion where if you’re in the room Law doesn’t have to aim cuz it’s auto hit, he still has to manage to hit Sanji or Shambles him to Point blank range before landing a Slash or Gamma Knife etc.
9:46 Why would it be game over if Kidd hit Zoro point blank with a Damned Punk, when Zoro blocked a joint attack from Kaido and BM before he learned Advanced Conquerors Haki? Even after taking that hit, Zoro still went on to fight and even slash Kaido.
That assumption would insinuate that Damned Punk is relatively as strong as Kaido and BM combined attack, which we all know is not true at all.
I've never really agreed with the take that Sanji just has better or way better obs. haki than Zoro. Sure, obs. haki is the one that Sanji is more inclined to, and I think that this is where people get it twisted. It being his specialty doesn't mean he's better at it than Luffy or Zoro. It's just HIS natural strong point. He DOES have a more nuanced haki, though, as he's been shown to be able to sense women in danger and their 'feelings'. But Luffy and Zoro have been shown to sense danger or changes in situations/environment dang near most of the series. Great vid. Just one of my takes.
EXACTLY!!! Sanji is more inclined to use observation but that doesn't make him that much better at it than Zoro. Zoro is far better than Sanji when it comes to the other two though.
the thing is sanji is shown to have much better observation haki in multiple times like in egghead sanji noticed someone in danger on the opposite side of the island went there to save him then came back before zoro even realized sanji left either zoro is an idiot and doesn’t use observation haki when he fights or sanji has better observation haki so either zoro doesn’t use it in fights meaning sanji has better observation haki by default or sanji just has better observation haki
@@yo-kaikid1925 Couldn't it be that Sanji has developed the variant of Observation Haki that allows him to sense emotions rather than outright having better haki? Granted I haven't read egghead yet but from the sounds of it he was able to pick up on the distress of a person, sort of like what he did during Wano, even to the point of it being passive rather than him having to keep it active, since when he did it in Wano he was just running up a staircase, not in the middle of a fight.
@@dataroaming7512 so he is so good at it he was able to create his own variant? and he is able to have it constantly active when nobody else can do that? if thats not better i dont know what is
@@yo-kaikid1925 It’s not his own variant multiple people have demonstrated that type of haki like Koby and the kid from Skypeia and for both of them it was a passive ability so its got nothing to do with haki mastery.
I think you’re underestimating law, he’s the strongest of the four
The damned punk isn’t really an ace when it takes 10 seconds to charge
yup... pretty uselsss.. only an idiot would get hit with that...
Zoro is not losing his swords,Like kid was not able to do that to big mom's Napoleon and if he even does I think Zoro will force enma to emit haki or smth,But yeah Zoro and Sanji are coming on top🗿🔥
if u think abt it if zoro can block kaido and big moms duo attack zoro can block kids attack (i forgot what its called) but even if kid hits zoro with the attack sanji (with ifrit jambe) could sneak up on king and get a clean kick (kid would be weakened and tired) also did you forget sanji has extoskeleton
Ngl I think damned punk would be useless, it would definetly do major damage. But he can't move really when he charges it
magnet versus sword(metal) I think Kidd can disarm Zoro maybe move Sanji around.
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it has been stated that haki surpasses devil fruit abilities. Sanji haki helps him handle laws powers
How about medaka box
How do you make a ten minute collab rant that can be easily debunked by the guy that uses MAGNETISM taking away Zoro's swords?
Zoro would go straight into KOH, like we saw him do against Lucci, so Law actually would not be able to Shambles Zoro or his swords. It's pretty obvious that ACOC is the haki power that let's you bypass Law's shambles. It's obvious since on the rooftop the only characters that Law couldn't shambles was Kaido and BM.
The big issue is Law having the power to shambles Sanji, but Law REALLY needs to be focused while fighting Zoro so it's pretty unlikely for him to be given the space or time to even shambles Sanji.
I would give it to Sanji and Zoro purely on the teamwork. And it would be extreme diff on both sides.
I disagree with the conclusion, but I really like the way you dissected it, and I must say it was a fair and reasonable assessment.
Now, imo, Law can perfectly use all his hax on Sanji and Zoro. Mes, Shambles, etc would all work.
The only reason he couldn't use those on the Yonkou was because their haki was TREMENDOUSLY stronger than his. I don't think he has that problem with Zoro or Sanji. Despite it not being emphasized much, Law and Kidd clearly have strong haki.
With that said, though, Sanji can probably evade those hax techniques if he stays focused, with observation and speed, since Doffy was doing it, and we know that Law has to "grab" his opponents to teleport them, for example. Zoro on the other hand, with armament being his specialty, and him having ACoC, can probably resist to some extent his craziest hax, the one where he cuts people. However, any Awakened techniques would definitely work on both Zoro and Sanji. Shock Wille, Puncture Wille, Assign, Damned Punk, would be absolutely devastating for Zoro and Sanji. It's also possible that Kidd, with his Magnetic DF, could seriously compromise Zoro's swordsmanship. He can probably repel or attract swords, to some extent.
Kidd and Law displayed some crazy durability and endurance feats in Onigashima. Only Zoro arguably did better.
Law and Kidd both endured multiple devastating attacks from Big Mom and kept fighting. Keep in mind, people like Queen or King are pretty much fodder to a serious Big Mom, who treated Queen like a bum, and Marco like he was a toy. And that was all without her amping up, just casually. A much stronger and determined version of Big Mom hit Law and Kidd multiple times, with named attacks and all, and still didn't K.O. them. Those two can take quite a lot before going down.
Law even endured a Thunder Bagua from Hybrid Kaido, and without much rest went on to fight Big Mom. Do you realize how crazy that is ?
In the end, both Law and Kidd could still stand and fight, after being pummeled non stop by two yonkou.
Honestly, I think Law and Kidd would win.
i think you are forgetting that Sanjis Modification is more than people thing strenght,speed,heal, and durability and he trained his haki during Wanokuni i think at the end of Egghead we will have the answer
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I think the biggest factor is sanjis speed cause as of egghead he outspeeds all all 3 of them
Which is blatantly false. He doesn’t come close to law with his fruit and same with Zoro. Kidd? Sure I guess, you can say he outspeed Kidd.
@@DecimaarZshambles takes time egghead Sanji literally can speed blitz this bums. Kidd and Law never showed good reaction time feats especially Kidd he is slow af in comparison to awakend Sanji. On top both dont have armament coating feats to protect themself from his blue flames.
@@DecimaarZyour an example of what poor reading comprehension does to people 😔
@@udwshquihqii1850 huh? Tf you mean? Just because I don’t read Sanji piece?
@@DecimaarZ Sanji has better speed feats than Zoro. King and queen are relative yet unlike Zoro Sanji completely blitzes queen and and became invisible to him. And in egghead he traveled across the island to protect Bonney from a light speed attack
Wait when has that punk gun killed anyone
Law beats both Sanji and Kid but he doesn’t currently beat Zoro. Extreme diff from Zoro though.
Couple things i wanna mention relating to Kid and his abilities.
- Kid's damned punk would oneshot Zoro but ONLY if hes not blocking it. Zoro when not blocking (as in his base durability) is atrocious so obviously he'd get oneshot but when blocking he can hold off a combo attack from yonkos for a couple seconds. There's 0 shot a Damned Punk is oneshotting him through the block.
- Kid's damned punk also is not just straight up oneshotting Sanji. Unless im trippin his Damned Punk was not treated like this giant overwhelming force that you HAVE to dodge. We saw after Law's Puncture Willie which already made BM weaker setting Kid up for his Damned Punk tank said Damned Punk "You've Gotta Be Kidding me!! She's Taking It!!". During Kid's second Damned Punk which was lasering her for a good minute BM quite literally started smiling and yappin about how she's gonna repel the attack soon . And i gotta repeat this part because its very important, LAW WAS WEAKENING BM THROUGHOUT THE FIGHT. These Damned Punks are doing more than they normally should be doing and this was directly said "You wait for me to use my finisher, then you swoop in with a flashy move to take the credit for yourself!!". Im not saying Damned Punk is a weak move, not at all, but yall are overrating it. Anyways back to Sanji, it'd do some heavy damage which would normally take him out of the fight due to large injuries but he does have regen so he'd need a moment to regenerate which Zoro can more than likely buy for him. Hitting Sanji with Damned Punk over Zoro is a big mistake i dont think Law/Kid team can afford to make.
- Kid is by far the slowest here, he has not a single good speed feat in the entirety of Wano. This is important to mention as everyone blitzing him when they want to is a massive problem. Kid struggles a lot with fast opponents as we saw with Shanks. Kid only looked as impressive as he did vs BM because that's the only character in the show who doesn't seem to know what a dodge is.
- Kid's devilfruit is situational, he doesn't always have access to infinite metal like he did in Onigashima.
All in all i do think Law/Kid stand a chance but Law is gonna have to carry BIG TIME again like how he did vs BM and everything is gonna have to go their way with no fuckups. Out of these 4 Kid is the massive weak-link, not Sanji. The only way i see them winning is if either A. Law sets up a shambles play that neither Zoro or Sanji see coming somehow, into an already charged Damned Punk that strikes Zoro on his back that'd oneshot him. Then they 2v1 Sanji and body the shit outta him. Or B. If you believe Law's shenanigans cannot be stopped by the Zoro/Sanji team because its not strong enough then Law can turn this fight into a cakewalk with his Hax. Law can swap their bodies either with each other or if there's a bystander then a random which guarantees a lose for the Zoro/Sanji team. Apart from those 2 scenarios Zoro/Sanji get to cooking and with their unparalleled teamwork body the Law/Kid team.
Wdym Zoro’s durability is atrocious?💀
@@DecimaarZ I mean... It is. When Zoro's not blocking a hit he gets demolished by everything. Killer pierced through him like his durability was a paper sheet and that was pre rooftop killer without his spinning blades which are his main weapon.
If I remember right he also admitted that both the Jackpot explosion and the Tempura Udon from King would've oneshot him had they hit him. And the explosion specifically almost killed him anyway despite him using Haki.
@@xdrago5602 The Tempura Udon never said it almost killed him. He said it’s almost impossible to block when he was in Mid Air. Zoro keeps fighting after tanking insane amounts of damage *simliar* to Kaido. Zoro is not fragile at all in the slightest and not anywhere close to it. Matter fact, if anyone has a change of surviving a crazy hit from anything I would always bet on Zoro.
@@DecimaarZ Can you name those examples of him tanking large attacks?
@@xdrago5602 easy, Hakai, Thunder Bagua, Big Moms attacks, attacks from King and etc. he’s displayed impressive durability every since like… thriller bark. Or even against Mr 1.
Thank you for the anime only spoiler warning ;(
Now i don't think room will work on zoro
zoro is no yonko get a hold of yourself
@@lestonclark2398that's not how that works
Only reason law couldn't use room on them because of there advance conquer haki
Now that Zoro has it.... So it won't work on him too
@@fanboy7181 apparently his room works on BB pirates but wont work on zoro. U guys take the meat riding too far. remember law and kid have been portrayed as luffy's rivals since the sabody arc. be a lil bit logical
@@wildfellow9063 nah you overrating them they aren't that impressive law is good though
@@fanboy7181 they both have higher bounty than zoro and sanji, have better feats, are the captains among supernovas, portrayed as rivals of luffy since their introduction. its a close match up but luffy's rivals will always be above his sub ordinates. You all are blinded by biasness
Law and Kid wins here. I think you guys are overestimating Zoro a bit too much here. Law and Kid's awakened abilities will be just too much for Zoro and Sanji, and I think the match is a lot less close (in favor of Law and Kid) than most people think.
Too many people overestimate zoro
tbh i think zoro and sanji could beat big mum alot more easier then law and kidd so them vsing each other would also be more mid-high diff then extreme
Sanji dodged a bullet from a precog while looking Pudding in all 3 eyes. Kid would have to build that cannon with a foot in his mouth.
You agree Law can't shambles or cut Zoro in half cause of Zoro haki but some how you think Kid can take Zoro's swords. Can Kid even hold Enma?
Ik we've never seen it in combat bc law usually fights one person, but if Law switched Zoro and Sanji's bodies, it's a quick W bc of the temporary confusion (add on Kid magnetizing Zoro's swords after the swap.)
Law's DP is just too tricky IMO.
Bro everyone talking about how the underestimate Sanji, why have I not found a single person who has ever said law or kid beats Zoro, the best I’ve found is the 2 beat Sanji which really shows how bias people are bc the gap between each duo is supposed to be tiny. Someone has to put an end to this Zoro glazing, I thought Lucci would but he failed and no one’s safe, Law Kid Sanji, hell I’ve seen people try to glaze their way into saying Zoro could beat Luffy… LUFFY, like JOYBOY, like what??? This has to end
sanji downplay😭
The problem with one piece is that the power scalings are all over the place.
In Punk Hazard one of Doflamingo's henchmen was able to CRACK Sanji's leg. Doflamingo himself straightup ONESHOT Sanji in Dressrosa.
And Doflamingo was absolutely TERRIFIED of getting on Kaido's bad side.
In Wholecake Island G4 Luffy was BARELY on Yonko commander level and Big Mom ONE SHOT G4 Luffy.
In Wano they suddenly got MASSIVELY stronger. (I don't see how learning Ryou increases Luffy's durablity)
Post Wano I'd say Law > Zoro and Kid > Sanji but it would be close.
But seeing how the crew randomly gets stronger with every arc they might overshadow them soon.
Bro law has a 3 billion bounty… did people forget?
Law and Kid Mid diff their abilities work perfectly for getting pass zoro and Sanji’s strong suits
Mid diff is crazy zoro and sanji wins extreme to high diff
@@kingpizza1854 law and kid win high and ext diff
@@kingpizza1854zoro and sanji have zero win cons
@@nottawa86 law kidd doesn't win they lose fast as hell
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The only way i see Law and Kidd winning is if Law can teleport Zoro or Sanji into Damned Punk. Otherwise Zoro is just too strong. And i think we’re underestimating just how fast and durable Sanji is. He’s faster than everyone else and the only one who can keep up is Law with his fruit. He’s also probably one of if not the most durable after his awakening. Meaning Kidd’s attacks besides DP likely wouldn’t do much if he could even hit Sanji.
Sanji is a non factor in the fight and law is over zoro just because of his df kid and law broke big moms bones who has better stats then zoro and sanji in everything but speed
Zoro /Sanji High Diff Law/Kid but not Extreme Diff.
You all highly underestimate Sanji
He already said zoro vs kid and law wasn’t close
Wouldn't it be possible for Kidd to assign a North to himself and Sanji so Sanji wouldn't be able to touch him physically because the same pole repels?
With enough force you can still make opposite poles touch on magnets
@@ris3reborn263 I did a little research on how magnets work the closer you try to bring them, the stronger the repelling force becomes. The only way is if one magnet repels is weaker or the opposite exists nearby but with Kidd's assign he turns u into one only of them.
Kid has one of the most OP fruit but he's too stupid to use it to full potential.
Sanji roof top level, lol. Sanji faster than King. I like you guys give Sanji feats you have no evidence for.
Bro you are comparing 2 captains to 2 officers. Are you saying zoro and sanji are captain level ?
So I have a SLIGHTLY different opinion on how this 2v2 would end, but that’s not the real problem I have with this video, the problem is that you say Zoro is stronger that Kid and Law, which I don’t believe is true based of feats, for example I’d argue that Kid’s “Damned punk” is just as deadly as Zoro’s nine sword style. And I also think that Sanji could survive a Damned punk, fight me😅, but overall ig now that I think about it I’d say y’all are right about the outcome
I think that Kid would just be a hard m.u for Zoro because he uses swords even if he is resistant. Plus w/ law around it would be difficult. Law fruit is legit broken. His fruit is so strong that man competes with yonko level fighters and w/ out his fruit he's relatively weak. Fighting law is just a mess. And before someone says "zOroO cAnN REsiisT KIdd's frUITT wiTh HaKKI" please remember that Kid devil fruit worked on big mom who is a master at haki.
it’s close because law is basically fighting 1v2
Ngl current sanji is too fast for kid just like how shanks speed blitzed him and an injured zoro put king to shame and we didn't even see sanji go all out all the time he was having inner monologue and trying to rizz that one girl while kid and law only won because of plot armor let's be honest zoro and sanji wins this fight
Sanji germa awakening makes him he'll of durable
1. Zoro
2. Law/Kid
2.Law/Kid
4. Sanji
I also think that King > Sanji high diff. Sanji has no way of pushing king to switch from his flame form like how Zoro did. And Sanji was in soba mask, king caught his kick with one hand and tossed him away. I know this isnt ifirt Jambe but king was not trying to much at this point.
I also think Law and Kid win because of their teamwork and wide range of abliltes. Bigmom wouldve won the fight if it were not for those 2 factors. I dont think Sanji is much help in this fight because he does not offer much. Law and Kid as I said have crazy abilites and Zoro has adv conq + Enma and his 3 sword style which he was able to make tornados with. Sanji is just speed and Law with his instantaneous movement is just better and I dont see Sanji doing much damage to either. The amount of damage Kid and law took from both Kiado and Bigmom is crazy and Sanjis overall strength doe snot compare to theirs. Like Law was literally getting beaten by bigmom while he was holding her down and with armament aswell and Kid was getting thrashed by Hera which is apart of Bigmoms soul and took hits from her and kaido more than Law did.
Once Sanji is first to be KOed I dont see how Zoro would overcome the both of them since they took down BM. If Kid marks any of them its basically over for either aswell
The fact they dont have devil fruits like law and Kidd
Sanji bodies Kid on his own and Zoro is a hard enough match up for Law that the fight drags on long enough for Sanji to join Zoro and they beat Law in a 2v1