Sequencing the Swing Like the Pros ⛳️
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- Опубликовано: 5 сен 2024
- Deep dive today into sequencing! This should shed light for many of you on the proper order of events in your golf swing.
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Stumbled upon your content last month. The level of information and articulation of it is unmatched. Thank u
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I watch a ton of golf videos on RUclips. With that said I can't say enough about your teaching technique. I took it to the range today and this particular video totally changed my swing. I always struggled with weight transfer and consistent contact. After a bucket of balls, I was hitting my 9 iron 140 plus and my 7 iron 160 plus. Not bad for a guy 63 years old. So far, I have watched about 6 or 7 of your videos and will continue to support your channel. I am from the Pittsburgh area and wish you guys were closer. Maybe someday I will make the trip to Arizona for one of your golf schools.
Thank you so much,
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@@user-fo3ur5mx4c Paul! You’re the man! So happy you’re experiencing improvement! Just made our day and PLEASE keep us posted!!!!
You guys have THE ABSOLUTE BEST videos and in depth explanations of how to build a consistent golf swing. I finally get it. Wow just wow!!!
So glad to hear it man!
Through all the videos I’ve watched I’ve never felt like I had control of the actual club. Most just say to work on a drill for 6 months to see improvement without giving an actual explanation why. Your videos and teaching are top notch. It’s like you have an understanding on a whole different level. Thank you guys so much!!
My man!! We appreciate that very much
I totally get it. I run a doctoral program in sports medicine. I have learned that if I use the laymen’s terms first and then clarify with the anatomical terms, they don’t shut off, but if I use the fancy terms first (even though more accurate), they shut off more.
I think the fact that you think in the anatomical terms and appreciate the subtle differences is part of what makes your take uniquely good. I’m just trying to pass some teaching-learning on back to you :).
Keep rockin’ it!
Appreciate it very much!! 🙏🙏
Wow .. simply the best on RUclips 🙏🙏.. the best description of how to feel in a golfswing by a biomechanical explanation 👌👌
My man, thank you so much 🙏
Omg - you just explained in one video what 8 years of studying George Knudsen’s Natural Swing video and book was trying to tell me - control the Center to control the motion.
You guys are amazing! Agree with DeanC about your generosity and brand building. I think lessons with you are in my future! 👍
We’d love to work with you brotha. Glad you enjoyed!
Control the center with a singular intention.
What is that intention?
I could never understand how to get that float feeling in my transition. You actually got it through to my simple brain! Lol. What a game changer. Thanks!
Game on baby! So happy for you! Keep up the great work!
Outstanding video. I’m a physician and I’m always impressed with your knowledge of anatomy.
I have some confusion though… I’m sure you are aware of Mr Greg Rose (chiropractor genius at TPI). He describes pressure plate sequencing of the lower body and reactive ground forces. For driver… Proper lower body sequencing is lateral shift to lead side, followed by horizontal plane shift, followed by twist, followed by jump.
In your opinion, how do we combine both your sequencing of the upper body and pressure plate sequencing of the lower body?
Thanks!
I would agree with that but how he describes it in sequence our terminology would differ. Our preference is pressure shift based on the dropping action of the pelvis and lateral movement of the rib cage complex. Almost all of the items described here by TPI we describe through spiral movement 🙏🙏
I've no idea why you have so few subscribers, without doubt you are putting the best information on the golf swing out there. I'm a + hcp and I've had so many lightbulb moments watching your series of videos, I'm amazed I ever hit the ball before, I had so many matchups. Will be contacting you for online lesson.
Much appreciated bro! Building up a following takes time! Would love to work with you
This is a real game changer - just brilliant! With the wave thought in mind this makes my swing feel ridiculously easy and stable. Thank you so much for sharing this.
Cool video! You guys explained exactly what Milo explains from the perspective of how athletes move and you added why those moves make sense from an anatomical perspective. 👊
Much appreciated!
Thanks so much guys. Since watching your instruction videos and progression videos and how you explain your concept of the swing.. I have had a light bulb moment and generally feel that your drills have improved not just my understanding but the control I have of my swing has improved hugely. Look forward to your videos each week. Thanks.
Thank you so much man, we always love to hear this 🙏 keep ripping it and good work!
You and a lot of other people too.
Gents, I have been watching your content for the last month and it has completely changed my game. My typical rounds were hi 70s to low 89s for two decades. After implementing your concepts into my swing my last 4 rounds have been par or better < 73!!! Thank you so much for sharing this information freely!!!
Not sure if you ever solicit topics but a couple of issues that pop up with driver is a pull (when I stop rotating) and a push with fairway metals.
Just throwing that out there if you ever decide to discuss.
Again, I can’t thank you enough!!!
Todd
Low 80s
Todd! We’re stoked for you bro. Keep up the good work 🙏
Wow, just wow... I took this to the range and hit the longest most effortless shots of my life. I felt the continued loading in transition and the anatomical explanation really helped me to feel it. I was worried that this would get the hand and club stuck too far behind me but it whips that club with so much velocity that it catches up just fine. Thanks!
This was great to understand the loading and unloading sequence. In fact I noted that when unloading the spiral on the way down, the arms(anterior/posterior) get passively loaded further for the ruberband fascia to whip the club.
YES! Great map!
What a great video. Especially the concept of increasing the distance between sternum and hands while spiraling. For someone who’s fought an early inside move then arm lift, this is a game changer. Also, the idea of nearly maxing out shoulder rotation before transition. That goes against “conventional wisdom”, but it absolutely works in practice! Keep it up, eagerly awaiting one on set-up.
So glad you enjoyed and it helped you man 🙏
Hats off to both of you!!! This sequencing video has explained so clearly the moves required for effortless power.
When to load the muscles & start dropping/laterally moving into transition is as early as position 2.5
That is a revelation very few people know
You’re on top of it bro 👍🏼
This is brilliant....thanks for posting
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Good stuff indeed. Esp, Riley is in action to show how's it working. Keep moving!!
16:19 this is the whole point!!
🫡 you’re on it bro
As always, fantastic stuff!! 👏👏 I learn something new every time I watch you guys. Thank you for all of your great content!!
Thank you for watching! 🙏
Love it, as usual! You keep putting bits and pieces, that I've previously discovered by accident, into a coherent whole. And now I understand where Stenson's little trigger comes from. Often wondered about that. 🎉
You’ll see it in many other guys if you know what to look for 👀
Hi guys,
This is all really great content. Some of the best on the net.
One thing that will help you to do is to lose or translate the jargon more. You demonstrate the “jargon” words like abduction, but most people tune out because they aren’t familiar and/or trying to learn a new language. As the expertise in teaching grows the explanations will simplify. You will still be able to geek out with those who want it, but for 90% it inhibits learning.
This is not a criticism, rather a comment from someone who teaches body movements to the public. The real skill is to be able to keep it as simple as possible without losing truth.
Hopefully that is helpful. I’ve learned a bunch from you all already.
Alan
Appreciate that for sure my man! We use anatomical and try to describe the verbiage because it correlated to the exact movement. Then and only then can we translate that to a feel! I believe we will continue to use anatomical and ‘feel’ based language to help people know the exact movements we prefer!
Truly appreciate your kind words!! ❤️❤️
Makes great sense, I can feel the rhythm and weight shift with tempo. Love it.
Glad you like it!
This is so amazing! Thanks
@@ronaldlong8213 right on! Glad you found it useful 🙏❤️🙏
Amazing video! You just explained what I couldn't understand about what exactly was happening when I felt proper sequencing and when I wasn't, which will help me get there more often and find my way back to when tension kills the proper movement...like the final round of an important tournament I blew my chance to win just yesterday. Of the thousands of videos I've watched over the years, this might be the best one for me because I know from experience that it's foundational but I didn't fully understand it, so couldn't hold onto it for long or quickly find my way back to it. Thank you.
THE BEST golf teachings on RUclips. You guys should put the button where we can send money on RUclips. ❤❤❤
Thank you so much 🙏 just keep watching and commenting, that’s enough for us 👌🏼
Just amazing videos! Gold!❤
Glad you like them!
This is crazy. Back when I used to break par pretty consistently I would do a lateral shift (early load) move that was "trained out of me" because I was told I was swaying. Despite shooting great scores I acquiesced and now hardly sniff par let alone below par. I have had to rely on my short game and only hope my full showed up that morning. This really resonates with my natural instincts and now I'm having to unlearn my current swing to get back to my old swing. Not complaining, just grateful for you guys reinforcing what I stumbled on years ago. Great content gents!
I got caught up in all my excitement I forgot to ask my question! How do you keep the lateral shift/load phase from being a sway? Old school teaching was if the hips went over the vertical line established by your feet. Is the key returning back to center in the proper sequence of movement (chest rotation/hip stabilizer drop)?
I think it’s still very important to keep the legs underneath you. A lot of this is accomplished by “bracing” or “braking” with the legs as the ribs sway into that space. Upper body laterals instead of lower body laterals. Hopefully that helps!
@elitegolfschools Absolutely makes sense! Thank you! I've already seen distance and accuracy gains at the range and need to bring to the course to unlearn years of the "classic" style. The distinction between upper and lower is key. 🤙
Thank you so for sharing so much valuable information, you guys are great.
You’re the man!
Great video! No tension whatsoever!!!
Another excellent video. This really illustrates why Milo talks so much about The Trigger. I can see how a little shift toward the target gives the body mass a little headstart to lead the arms.
Well said!
I followed this technique this weekend and I was amazed the feeling I had as I allowed the club to float, it was a feeling I never had before, I cant even put into words, however the results where very good! I had 4 brides and shot 73. I did lose it on the last few holes, I just put that under I am still learning the move. I did find myself sliding forward rather than turning, which caused me to come over-the-top. I have to be patient and complete the move before forcing my swing.
Let’s go bro!! That’s solid and super encouraging to see those kind of results early on. Keep it up!
This wonderful lesson shows why certain things I learned were positive steps forward, like trying to keep a triangular arm and chest structure. However, this lesson shows how this practice can improve more by letting that arm structure soften and lag behind the rotating rib structure. I've saved the episode, will practice what you've taught, then come back to review lesson again. Thanks!
Good man! Let us know how it goes
I'm really getting into your videos! I'd love to see you both on the range hitting balls to demonstrate the movements and use a ball tracer.
Great stuff and so we'll communicated. Such important information that I haven't seen anywhere else. Keep up the good work fellas!
Wow I just came across this channel ! Awesome content ! Thanks 🙏
Thanks so much for hopping on! Let us know if we can answer any questions for you!
wanted to send a shout out to you guys. I’m a 12 handicap and have only broken 80 once playing 15 years. Ran into your videos and it instantly made sense to me. 2 range sessions and I take the swing to my latest round and shot 79 striking irons great. I love all the PT terminology since I’m familiar. Do you fellas give private lessons in AZ?
This is great, this makes sense, true separation will only happen from the start, if you're not sequenced (separated) from the start, trying to separate during the 2nd half of the swing is nearly impossible.
Great content for those who really need to understand the mechanics of the swing, the 'why' behind the movements. I have been out practicing the sequencing and the lateral move can lead to some confusion for me. I understand that it is the ribs that make the move (not a lower body weight shift) but is it truly lateral or is it a slight tilt of the upper body? It would be awesome if at some point you sell your entire swing system in one program. Thanks again for the great content.
You're blending content AND context so as to make me feel like an oxygen thief with respect to my narrative! THANKS!
Haha! Thank you!
Riley best of everything to you, you are the best golf instructor for me...
One simple question: is it mainly Ben Hogan swing you are giving mechanics of?
Thank you again...
Thank you so much! Appreciate the kind words!
And Ben is one of our absolute favorites. Lots of guys throughout the years that we love and definitely characteristics from many players that are very attractive to us. ❤️🙏
Feeling good = huge!! Very well explained discussion!🤙
Thanks man!
Another great explanation. 👊👍.
Glad you liked it!
Great instruction!
Thank you!!!
We need more of this!!! 😃
Great videos and I especially appreciate the patience and detail you use in your teaching. I have seen 10 videos and I have questions about two things that I haven't seen an explanation. One is the role of the trail elbow from transition to impact. On most of your rehearsal swings, it is clear that the trail elbow must be even with and not behind the hands. Another question is the booty drop. Does it matter if the drop is a true squat or you just stick it out behind? Thanks for awesome content.
Best in the business'... Wish you guys weren't so far from Canada Haha
Virtual lessons always an option my man 🙏 maybe someday Canada will have a location, who knows!
Thank you for being so gracious and unselfish in dropping gems with extreme precision and clarity 🥸🥸
Dude, we try 🙏 thank you for the support
Great video guys, awesome explanations as always. Looking forward to trying this in the practise net.
Have fun brotha! 🫡
Great video! I have the tendency to active load my arms and shoulders which produces the bounce (early unload and release at the top). I need to practice the floating passive load sequence.
You and me both bro 🙏
I'm having directional problems when throwing the arms ab/aducting ing. How do you time the arm release with your body rotation to get the direction you desire?
In fact, I sometimes struggle with rotation, flexion, arm throwing to have them all work together to get a good directional fling.
Any advice on the mental glue to make this simple.
Thanks!
The knowledge here is soooo good!!!
Would definitely suggest purposefully changing the directions of force to move the directions on purpose. When you’re aware of energy direction you start to own ballflught
love the video guys!!!! You guys rock
Thank you Ben! 🙏
Powerful content! You guys rock!!!
Thanks so much!
You guys are great. Just found you recently and have been crushing your videos and increasing my understanding of the golf swing tremendously. One thing though, please fix your mic or your mixer. I'm a musician and we use wireless mics all the time. You have your gain way too high and it's making your voice sound terrible. Just some friendly advice. Thanks fellas!
Fixed in future videos! Thanks for the tip!
Insanely good info
I am totally agree with you on this sequencing but could you please explain why TPI kinematic sequencing said that most tour players move club and hands before pelvis? Thank you so much for the great info.
#1: there’s a lot of ways to swing it. #2: hands and arms still play an important role in the backswing, we just prefer patterns in which they are more responsive to body moves as opposed to the primary force 👍🏼
Thanks for the great content guys. The feeling I have used with some success , is that I have a baby in my arms with its head resting on my left arm/chest and I am passing the baby to someone standing to my right as I rotate in the backswing. This ensures that you don’t squeeze your left arm into the left chest until after you have passed the baby safely to the person on your right hand side, you are then free to move into the transition stage where the left chest moves into the left arm. Do you think this idea would be correct? Thanks.
Absolutely 👍🏼
Can you guys do a video on how to shallow the golf club
I would watch “Arm Action”
Great stuff as usual. Can you spend some time on the right hand position at impact and through to the finish. Thanks.
Trail hand? On the list 📝
I'm 78, only 5'7" and overweight (194#). but still fairly athletic for my age. I find it very difficult to make a full swing and pivot. But I watch this vid and start thinking that I can do a good shorter swing (but certainly not like TJ) and load/unload at the right time. So then I go out and find that my backswing is so short that I have no time to transition like TJ, and wind up trying to square the clubface with the hand flip. Is there any hope?
Oh yes there is! And always keep in mind that there are varying levels of this movement for each individual in order to feel right 🙏
I often hear "hitting with the whole right side".
How does that apply to your system?
Thanks
Can definitely be a good map, but depends on each player
Every video inspires me to try out what you are talking about and I've been having success! Your videos are clear and informative. I appreciate that you get into the details of why you have certain preferences and what evidence supports these preferences. This is a very good video that answers questions about sequencing. Would you please have a similar discussion on paths? Hand path, club path, perhaps elbow paths, and the angles that you look for in relation to the paths? When looking at swing videos sometimes its hard to know how to evaluate them. I was thinking this might help me to understand what I should be looking at. Thank you very much for all the great content!
Check out a video we made in the past, “Hub Path vs. Club Path.” Right up your alley
You guys rock- wonder if any other pull down EE offenders like myself feel this- is it fair to say that the earlier you activate that left fascial line ie P4 or earlier the more likely you are to stand up early and lose back chain more into front chain? Is it reasonable to try to hold off on spiral line loading/ lengthening as long as possible for this type? Thanks!
100% man. (TJ here btw, and I would say this is especially true for your pattern in particular) 🙏
Take my money 💰💰💰this is fantastic information. Thank You
Glad you enjoyed!
Another Qs. So on the backswing its Lateral, Spiral and then Arms and on the downswing again its Lateral, Spirals and then Arms?
Is there a feel on the downswing that the rear shoulder drops down and then the chest starts turning towards the target all behind the ball or center line?
I double dawg dare this guy to work with me this year.
Bring it 😤
Can someone point me to the video that explains the P1 thru delivery? Thanks in advance. These videos connect with me.
You got it man. The video you’re searching for is called “Load the Spiral Line for a Powerful Golf Swing”
the lowering of the pelvis is super hard to do because there is hardly any time. When I lower the pelvis the club wants to come down very fast. How do you combat that?
The pelvic drop is part of the load?
Yessir! Final phase of the load. Arms are still going up back and away while dropping… then rip ❤️
What is P... (P1 p2.5 etc) ?
Stands for ‘position’
Very interesting! I think a lot of golfers understand the sequencing, but they don't understand the "feelings" necessary to efficiently get and keep it flowing. Like me. 🙂 I look forward to playing around with some of these ideas, to see if they help me.
Let’s go 🔥
Do you plan on doing any videos on clubface control and where it comes from.
We have a video, titled “club face stability” you should check out 👍🏼
Really nice video guys.
I struggle with too flat turn away then I have to load my arms early and then spin to start my downswing (adding load) but have to throw at the ball through impact. Very inconsistent. How to get to p5 slow enough to save the unload is just impossible for me. Do you have a video on this. Patience in translation! ?
We should definitely do a video on the transition 👌🏼
Question at 14:30 so when the arms are firing towards target, do the ribs go away from the target?
At any point in the downswing are you swing your arms or the arms are passive and the body is. Thx
There’s gonna be some arm swing in every pattern, they are part of the system 🙏
Wow
How come the lower body was left off sequencing? I would think them lower body plays a big part in sequencing.
Lower body definitely has its role, but we see it as more of a passive mover rather than an active mover. Upper spiral pulls the lower 💪🏼
I was wondering the same thing. I tend to feel that it's my left foot that starts the backswing (pushing into my right leg which then holds back, and the upper body and arms just follow upwards). When I don't have a golf club in my hands, I find it easier to feel ribs and shoulders starting the movement. It's like holding the club blocks the upper body a bit, and makes it more rigid, while the legs can remain free to kick-start it all. But I'm working on it... 😎
Awesome
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Having a difficult time feeling how to get the hip drop with the chest shift while the arms are finishing up to the top for the transition/downswing. Are hip drop and chest shift starting simultaneously or no?
New video on the pelvis should help clear some of this up 🙏
Is there any issue triggering this by moving the rear heal away from the target a 1/2" to shift off center and go into the spiral?
Would have to see that one in action to understand what you’re talking about. If it feels good, go for it!
so i have a lot of arm runoff at the top of my swing, should i feel a bigger torso turn and load the fascial lines even more in the backswing to shorten the arm swing? hopefully that makes sense
Makes sense to me! Many players are forced to use the arms because of under-utilization of the spiral line 🌀
Tremendous
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It seems your explanation of the load phase involves swaying your body’s center of the ball and the set low point of your club at address. I am currently taking lessons and I being told not to sway off the center point while in your backswing because you are introducing a timing mechanism and a variable into the swing at impact. Am I misunderstanding this? My lesson is really focused on eliminating variables on the golf swing to maintain a consistent swing.
Great question! I would definitely suggest consulting with your coach. Definitely don’t want to implement something that is going to be counter to your work. We are coaching a system through our channels and looking to help players better filter information and movement 🙏
Can you just start spiraling with no lateral movement for first move and still get the proper sequencing throughout the swing?... most people if they make any lateral movement off the ball they never get back causing their low point to never be correct.
Cause even just spiraling off the ball youre still leading your arms
The feel is for the pelvis to swivel target side as the ribs move laterally. This creates a “centered” look. Opposite moves 👍
How does finger pressure apply? Oops 😬
For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction
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What weight and size is your medicine ball Fellas?
Thanks.
Got lots of em. 4-8lbs is a good place to start
What trigger the unload?Push off from the left foot? At what point to unload p5.5?
Not a lot of pushing off the left foot happening, and I would say as a general rule the unload feels great around p5.5 yes
It’s not terrible bit you need to lower the gain in your mic . Great vid
How does one do that?
@@elitegolfschools ruclips.net/video/dakp_MPQO5Q/видео.html
There might be a more succinct way of describing how to swing a golf club?
I’m sure there is! Lots of folks seeking to dive into complexity to create the right mental maps 🧠, this can simplify things down the line
Nelly Korda’s swing is the picture perfect example of this video.
She swings it great!
ruclips.net/user/shortsn6Thsb9oPtI?si=XFD_5PR29luEJ9II
If we compare the short video of Riley saying turn no arms.
And then view TJ winding. TJ almost has a lateral movement with no turns. So I’m quite confused.
Nelly Korda is the prime example of this sequencing.
She swings it great!
I have the ugliest swing ever and I know I can do better. I’m missing something because what I feel and see I nowhere remotely close. And I have no distance.
Let’s tidy that sucker up!
Once I figure out this swing I'm going to say now I can huck it😂
Let’s go!!!
If over done, this move can cause you to sway. Love the concept, but can be dangerous.
Context is needed 👍