All Nazgul Talion & Eltariel Cutscenes - Blade of Galadriel DLC
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- Shadow of war dlc - blade of galadriel story expansion, All Nazgul Talion / wraith / ringwraith Talion & eltariel scenes + ending / true ending
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Talion is literally always alone even when he's trying to do the right thing. Hell he's better off a Nazgul. At least when he joined the Ring Wraiths he has 6 ACTUAL allies that won't betray him.
And a shit ton of orcs he doesn't have to dominate
Talion is one of the most badass characters ever written. Well said
8, since the nazgul are 9 in total
@@runtergerutscht4401 9 and the Witch King who is technically a Nazghul too
@@bloodfang9820 isn't the witch king the leader of the Nazgul but also a nazgul himself?
1:39
"I believe Mordor and the Nazghul must be contained but how long can you fight before you fall and join them?"
"I don't know and if you hadn't stolen the uncorrupted ring of power from me and left me to die so you could go get your ass kicked by Sauron and lose EVERYTHING in the process, we wouldn't need to find out. Given the situation, I've done the best I could in spite of your stupidity and incompetence."
Fitting
I’m sure this is exactly what we all were thinking.
I read this exactly as she said it
Leave it to the Eldar to screw everyone over in their arrogance
-Hydra Dominatus
CedarHunt THANK YOU, I’m thinking this whole time this man being hella easy in her after all that shit
Eltariel: I will *not* dominate these orcs!
Talion: But you will leave me for dead, steal my ring, *and* hand the fate of the world to the Devil on a silver platter, cursing me to become a slave to his power? Right- Exactly what does Galadriel see in you again?
I thought I was the only one think this's game story bad
Also she was perfectly ready to dominate sauron and through him all of the Orcs... Big brain time on her oart
@@Yousef-pp6iu The story is good but part of eltariel taking the ring is definitely the worst part of the game
Probably she Was sent by Galadriel to be killed in the first place xD
@@Yousef-pp6iu the rest of the story is good it's just every scene with eltariel in sucks
"I will not Dominate them"
You were happy to dominate Sauron but dominating an orc is too far for you?
Sauron*
Because Orcs are far too below for elves.
Dominating Orcs is to build an army and perpetuate war, dominating Sauron was a chance to win a war. This option was quite tempting considering the only other way to beat Sauron was to destroy the One Ring, and Shadow of War happened decades before it was found.
Hans Alanson it really didn’t make any sense though.
@@hansalanson3497 not quite it takes place after the hobbit seeing as it mentions that Gollum lost his ring to Bilbo baggins
The way Talion looks at her when she says "i will not dominate these Orcs." Pretty much sums up our feelings.
Like "do i need to remind you what you've done to me?"
Talion: “Tell me, how does my face look right now? Do I still have dark veins and orange eyes? I do? Then shut the fuck up.”
@@3DSDF haha yeah
@@3DSDF Exactly, lol
I'd rather say "then give me the Ring and fuck off"
Welp, most of our free time after end game or during main game is dominating them so that we can get better units for raiding territories online. Have fun while it last
"He belongs to the Dark Lord."
Me: And who's fault is it, b*tch?
Pretty much my reaction and I'm a fucking skelleton
@@sans8578 sans I killed you so please stay down It took me 6 hours stay down
Talion's Harry Potter ya'll
If she is going to be in the next game in will be pissed
@@eldersnowball6890 They have said that there is not going to be another game, Shadows of War is the last one, if you want to know how the history ended watch the "secret" ending
I like how Slayer doesn't have a Domination mark meaning he willingly joined Talion
Uhm there are not usually marks on captains
@@rangopistacho6928 yes there are
@@jutk2679 its only on basic orcs not captains
@@rangopistacho6928 that's not true i recruited a captain and he had my handprints all over his body not just his face
@@jutk2679 that is wierd it does not show up for me
“I am banished from death, and bound to the flaming eye” Talion’s last words
Hillary Clinton his last words as a man and his birth as a nazgul
Hanzio F7 Nah, “This ring, is MINE. And Talion is no more”
Hillary Clinton Could be worse, Imagine if Trump was a Nazgul.
Wonderful performance. That whole boss fight is great because it captures the tragedy of Talion.
Until he comes back and dies via volcano rock
I think we all know talion would’ve destroyed her in an actual fight.
He did in the first one
If she told me i was a nazgul. I would have told her. "How does your actions look like??? Because this is both celebrimbor's and your fault. Not worthy a deed for a blade of galadriel. You stain her noble name. Ethariel the Betrayer."
Julius Moe-nstar haha true
So true
@@juliusmoe-nstar8942 how i wish Talion would have said that, i so want to see the regret and shame in her eyes, before Talion snufs out her soul
Really wanted an ending where Talion lived and Eltariel died...
Talion didn't die, he just teleported away.
@@ikilledcaptainalex666 well he did died which it was sad to see but he did gain freedom
@@zerometox1135 When Sauron was destroyed, not when Eltariel stabbed him.
Yep
Well if you remember in the beginning off shadow of war when you the all the Nazgul there are only 8 he is the ninth although he wasnt a king he was part Numinorien (probably spelled that wrong)
Talion had every right to be mad at her yet he still remained in character, her shitty character writing just made Talion more likeable than he already is.
It’s funny because they have a perfect script to set up a narcissistic character, yet they end up winning in the end while learning nothing and being seen as in the right.
I believe the biggest reason as to why he was nice to her was because he was happy to have someone that isn't an orc around. Orcs will betray you the moment you show any form of weakness whether it's in battle or emotional so you can't get too friendly with them
@@zaki7583 so do Elves apparently
@@oguzbatuhanoflaz2585 oh those pointy eared bastards can't be trusted
@@littlemoth4956 Who They you bigot?
We have two people She and He in this conversation. And I have no idea what are you talking about.
Poor Talion. He did everything he could to put Middle Earth right but got fucked over in the end and everything got worse
Talion entire existence after the events of the black gate is essentially being routinely fucked over.
The ending in the Main story tells us that talion gets free and lives his rest of his live in peace
Life*
Flux riptide That's his afterlife
Flux riptide he dies dude
"Talion you were not alone"
Narrator:
He was
Is it weird that the narrator voice in my head was Morgan Freeman?
I had a funny thought:
Eltariel: You're not alone.
Talion: Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Ratbag.
@@astraloutlaw6549 fr ratbag is a real one
@@erickmontiel6312 damn that was what I was gonna write
(Morgan Freeman)
Soo...she killed a guy that previously disarmed her and subdued her with relative ease while holding back his dark impulses from Isildur's ring of power ? *Okay.*
Nikola Dimitrov because bullshit
It was a bad move on the developers part, you can clearly see that Talion is simply superior to her in every aspect in the first minute of the video.
He was weakened, and fighting himself, so maybe he didn`t go all out?
But it always makes me laugh, when i think about it- Nazgul live for thousands of years. Honestly imagine being a creature, that can hone it`s skills for thousands of years, without any detremential effects of aging... Nazgul should wrap Talion(and Aragorn for that matter, on Amon Sul) in a knot first time they faced him- you do nothing but train for war. Imagine reflexes and technique on those bad boys
Only thing that mkes it plausible is that Celebrimbor sort of "Transfered" his thousands of years of skills into Talion- in which case yes- Talion should mop the floor with her
Yeah he isnt dead. Banished from death and a nazgul so he'l just come back stronger
And Talion killed the guys who slaughtered his family, held him down like a bitch and slit his throat. Almost like he got stronger over time. But she can't do that.... right?
I like Slayer as a character because when he was talking to tailon he sounded nervous giving the bad news
They all know what he did to bruce no one wants talion mad for various reasons mainly being that he’s able to replace at any moment with another orc 3 times stronger or just that he can make you fight another orc for his entertainment
@@im-a-simple-nobody2791 which still hurts me to this day.
I mean he looks like he follow talion by his own he doesnt have any sign of domination. He seems to really respect talion instead of fear him
@@elektra8535 true true, I do feel he has respect
Too good for this world Talion.... never deserved to be beaten down by it..
2:54 I wish we got more scenes like this, talion interacting with the orcs is so cool
He seems really patient with the Orcs. Really shows how different he treats them compared to Celebrimbor who treated them as just meat shields.
@@3DSDF The orcs hate Talion for being nice though.
When some betray you, one of their reasons is that Talion doesn't allow them to be too cruel.
@@g.masterlordoftheg-force4770 but then you show them what true cruelty is as you break their bones, make them mad and finally when they are nothing but worms (lvl1) you step on them as an act of mercy (and to free up space for new orcs to spawn)
@@zaki7583 This guy knows how to enforce discipline.
@@zaki7583 I rather keep them around as reminders of what awaits if you cross me. If you don’t like me being nice, then you don’t deserve mercy.
Can we scrap parts of this DLC and have the third game be talion hunting down celebrimbor? Pretty please?
Celebrimbor is in the eye of sauron
No not quite
He gets released
Maybe talion comes back to finish celebrimbor
I quite liked celebrimbor and loved the sauron boss fight when i got to play as him but to be honest the fact celebrimbor and eltariel survive and Talion dies really just pisses me off.
I don’t blame Talion for not giving the ring back.
Wym talion
If it were anyone else, he might have made it. But the one who tasked herself with pulling him back from the edge was the same one who had pushed him off the cliff last time. And she still hadn't even apologised. Where's Hirgon or Torvin when you need them? Hell, RATBAG probably had a better chance of talking Talion down.
3:56 "oh but you were willing to betray me and leave me for dead and let's not forget that you tried dominate the dark lord since you're not going to use the bright lord's ring than kindly gave it to me islidur's ring is ever so slightly EATING MY SOUL!"
Yeah, but I really need those fingers.
FUCK YOUR FINGERS! i NEED my conscience!
sahrot kro B-B-B-But plot
sahrot kro Man elves are hypocrites.
sahrot kro TELL THAT SHIT TO WB
"Please! Don't let me die in this cursed land"
I'm absolutely not crying
I think kt hose were his true last words as the human Talion we all knew. you can clearly see it in his eyes. when he said that, they weren't orange, they were his natural blue.
Honestly the only good thing about this DLC is getting to see Talion again, Eltariel is just such an unlikable character, she's just such a self righteous jerk
Ashe Ridge plus she betrayed talion who the hell would want to play as the character who literally betrayed the protagonist. That’s literally rubbing shit in your face till you enjoy it
The two of you just explained the feeling of everyone who played the game. xD The only thing you left out was the dick move of killing the protagonist IN A FREAKING DLC??! You have to buy a DLC to actually move on with the story.
Ye and this bich betrayed talion
@@archangellogan4258 is the DLC after betrayal or before it?
i hate her
I love all the comments giving talion the respect he deserves. Too many people said he was boring and forgettable in their reviews
idiots said that. idiots that didn't understand a single thing in the plot
It honestly sucks when people say talion sucked even though they probably only like a character who's a hot female.
@@Azathoth343unfortunately that's the state of the mind of the average gamer in 2023
@@TheMessiahOfThe99Percent I'm late but yes this is way to true.
Celebrimbor's ring didn't have the side effect of turning you into a Nazgul, so why didn't Eltariel just cut off his ring and give Celebrimbor's ring to Talion. She wasn't in danger of dying, and could've given the ring to Galadriel or thrown it into Mount Doom.
Jesse Hendriks “ I need them fingers bro so just let that ring slowly eat your soul”
Because when you wear a corrupted ring of power, your soul is bound to Sauron as long as he exists, essentially meaning if Talion takes the corrupted ring off he just dies and his soul goes to Sauron.
Where does it say that? Also, his soul won't go to sauron. When he died his soul didn't go to sauron. Sauron is still alive after the ring was destroyed. He is an immortal spirit so that defense is out the window.
Morganthe I thought if you destroy the one ring you destroy Sauron?
He is an immortal spirit he won't be able to do much but he will be alive.
What I dislike is that the "true" ending to the original game content seemed to show that Talion fought in Mordor for years before succumbing eventually to the ring's influence, and becoming a true Nazgul. This DLC seems to disregard the game's own lore and end-game story arc, and makes it seem like it happens almost overnight.
not really, the timeline of the game is shadow wars where talion defends Mordor for decades and then he gives into to the ring (this dlc), becomes a full Nazgul for a while but he has bought time for middle earth and then gets the true ending :) you have to remember that talion likely won't age anymore and the only other character is an immortal elf
No, FOR DECADES
@@patrickchad9631 when he got stabbed he is already a ringwaith, so he will come back
I guess since the sisters can try to do something on their own, Talion was keep going with his plan after he get back as ringwaith
Talion could beat her any day
Joseph Siburt damn right he could! He faced the or army alone so many times, how could she think she could win
Cole C because she fights nazgul regularly and now he’s a nazgul so would fight similarly
Max Richards but he’s been kicking ass for decades how does suddenly him being a nazgul make him any more less of a threat
Max Richards nazguls are slow,
Unlike talion.
You basically got to play as robin instead of Batman
Please for the love of god don't let her be the main character in the next game
Zebo8000 baranor isn’t that much better to be honest
Azrael Wolfsblood a fuckton better then etariel for sure
Why not? Her moveset is fun and it's not like anyone plays these games for the story anyway.
Ian Bailey Boi she betrayed Talion and expected him to forget, and of course people play this for the story thats why people are so pissed about her in the first place
I don't see how anyone is ignoring the fact that she betrayed Talion. He straight up calls her out on it at the end, and you can tell she clearly feels bad about what she's done, that's why she didn't shank him in Gorgoroth.
I haven't really met that many people who play the Shadow games for story, but really only for the nemesis system and the well polished gameplay.
In a perfect reality
Talion: Hey Eltariel, can I have celebrimbor's ring back, I think this one is making me a nazgul.
Eltarifuck: Of course, I only need it for my two fingers. [Gives ring]
Talion: [Swaps isildurs ring with celebrimbor's, then screams in pain with the nazgul poison being reverted] Oh my gawd, I feel like myself and I still have cool ass wraith powers.
DECADES OF FIGHTING LATER
Nazgul: it's time for you to join us, brother.
Talion: Why?
Nazgul: You wear isildurs ring
Talion: Nah, this is celebrimbor's ring.
Nazgul: SHIT! Well bye then.
Years later.
Frodo: Oh no orcs are attacking us. [Later saved by talion and his dominated orcs.]
good point for an alternative novel
Hey, I'd just have both rings If this happened lol
You’d be able to walk right into Mordor if this civil war was still going on
@@hyperion3145 Hey, we don't know it's not going in in LOTR...
Paradime
I know, I was just adding on to the original comment
One thing I want to mention is that we see Galadriel can communicate with Eltariel at any time in the dlc.
Which means, Galadriel approves or at least did not stop Eltariel from going with Celebrimbor's plan
The elven arrogance and greed
Keep in mind that until the One Ring was found and the Fellowship was formed, Celebrimbor and Eltariel using the New Ring to try to dominate Sauron was Middle Earth's only hope of stopping him. Was it wrong and selfish? Absolutely. Put yourself in that position, though. Nobody else stood a chance, and Talion refused to comply.
The game's not even canon dude
@@angramainyu9220 for someone who commented on a 7 months old comment of an even older video of an even older non-canon game, why do you care?
@@Lyserus Why do you care that I commented?
@@angramainyu9220 why do you care that he commented?
I root for talion even when he fully becomes a nazgul. I love this character. I hated the bright lord after he betrayed him. So glad he got his own ring without the bright lord controlling him.
Well it's a different form of control with isildurs ring, and talion progressively loses himself which is arguably worse
I wanted to play Nazgûl talion when I saw he became one so I could banish celebrimbor like the bitch he is
The tragedy of Talion is that he is betrayed by everyone. He is betrayed by gondor when general Castimir is revealed to be the spy. He is betrayed by Bruz who was his first captian. He was betrayed by Eltariel and Celebrembor whonleft him to die on the bridge. The only ones who were truly there for him were the Nazguil who always refered to him as brother. Oh and ratbag was there for him
And shelob
Honestly I thought talion and calimbrimbore had a unbreakable bond made me sad he left for her
It’s a metaphor for life, you friend gets a girlfriend then they leave you for dead.
Br3ad5ticks Gaming he always hated talion and his decision talion didn’t want to banish by death but when he started to make friends with human outcast dwarf he started to like his life a bit more when you defeat the witch king and Sauron is shadow of Mordor in the end he says he wanted to die with his family but the threat of Sauron and meeting people pushed him to fight against Sauron
@@MacewindJediMaster lmao
I don’t remember that. I remember talion challenging every piece of advice calimbrimbore made. They argued about literally every plot point in the game. Doesn’t Shelob say to calimbrimbore when she takes the ring to talion “return to your puppet before he dies” showing that he was just using talion as a vessel. That’s probably one of the reasons why he made the new ring; so that he could cling to a new host and get the fuck away from talion
*Celebrimbor
One thing I love with Talion being an army leader is we get to see that he ALSO deals with the constant infighting that we used to our advantage when we were fighting Sauron.
Talion was so badass until you found out he was killed by 2 hobbits
Lol yup
Even worse, he died by a flying rock
To be honest, those hobbits were extremely badass.
Hey, no ring wraith can survive a Hobbit if they have enough plot armor.
TBF, hobbits are actually the most OP at surviving. Honestly, think about it. Every fucking hobbit involved with the ring and the story are literal demigods. While they cant fight well, they sure as fuck can out will anyone and anything. Just look at frodo and sam.
Sure plot armor is thick, but story telling is basically plot armor so...
The sheer *hate* in his eyes at 10:37 when he says he is banished from death is so intense, I love it.
The ending implies that there will be another "Shadow of (insert word)" game. If she is the main protagonist though, I am done with the series.
SAME
What if she's main protagonist for the first half then he kills her
@@jamesrainey8446 still unacceptable. She was lucky to get dlc as gameplay. After looking down on Talion for the entire game, betraying him, throwing her elven hypocrisy at him constantly and then still being portrayed as some shining beacon, she's so unlikable that even if she died in the first cutscene, I would cringe at going near that game.
I'm done with this series already. Shadow of War was a travesty.
@abraham goodwin Considering the state it was released in and the way it was basically a glorified lootbox storefront...
2:55 I love that Orc. He seems like a chill guy, and his backstory is insane.
Akoth slayer of the dead who once was apart of the mystic tribe along with his blood brother, due to an event that I can’t quite remember, his blood brother died to an undead so akoth took his blood brother’s gear and left the mystic tribe for the marauder tribe.
I think that’s how it happened, it has been so long since I played the dlc.
@@ultragoku5391 he also started hunting Talion before he served him
@@arragon5481 huh didn’t know that.
@ultragoku5391 yeah, him and Talion were kinda rivals
@@arragon5481 really? I thought zog was his rival.
I really hope in the next game that the spider woman somehow saves Talion before he dies as a nazgul and tell him that she still needs him because Celembrimbor is still alive and that Talion last mission is to kill Celembrimbor before he takes someone else body (mby Eltariel) and starts conquering again. (Although, This might not be possible consider he won't have a ring anymore)
Agreed
But, as you can see in the endscene of the main story, he was able to live without a Ring. Maybe because Kankra is keeping him alive or the wounds were healed in the second he became a Nazgul Ingame.
@@commanderbacara4306 dude he wasn't alive. That's him in the after life(heaven)
@@commanderbacara4306 it literally says "death to talion"
@@yourman1200 I think he was talking about how Talion was able to put the nazgul ring on his finger even though he was "dead"
Aaand you get to be a nazghul! And you get to be a nazgul! And you too!
Star wars SJW reference?
So true, BECAUSE THE NAZGUL ARE KINGS, you can't make a woman a nazgul because she is a queen. And that's not sexist it's just facts
Lord ButterNut the Nazgul aren’t kings. This game fucked the lore up so bad. Only one Nazgul is referred to as a king and that would be the Witch King of Angmar. The other ones are just said to be mighty warriors among men. So still men, yea, but not kings.
@@dustinhickey3473 but the nazgul are kings, they are the 9 kings of men
Incorrect the Naszgul are the former Nine kings of Men who were deceived into taking the rings by Sauron the term Nazgul only refers to them however the creators of this game botched this so bad it hurts to read some of the comments as it translates as Ringwraith anyone turned by a Morgul blade the actual cannon way to become a wraith becomes a Wight a lesser wraith that is bound to Soaron through the Nazgul that slays you and has very little free will@@dustinhickey3473
Dont let her be the main character PLLEEEAAASSEEEE
Wait she doesn’t use the ring. Then why does she not give him the ring so he never gets corrupted.
Elf
Elvish greed. They likes shinies.
"I am BANISHED from DEATH and BOUND to the FLAMING EYE"-NazGUL
ninetails625 "As long as I have breath in my body, My fate is my own" - talion
"You are not the only one fighting " - eltariel
"I have a big penis"
-Me
;_; his story is realy sad.its sad that you see after all of those good days that you spent as celeberimbor and talion in both 1th and 2th game,finally none of those reached their wish.celeberimbor failed to get revenge and talion failed to defeat the darkness and instead became the darkness.the only thing that can still make player feel good is at least he can reach peace with his family after life
Ali Changizi Well actually it's good that Celebrimbor failed, he would become another Lord. True, a Bright one this time, but he would still dream about conquering the Middle-Earth.
The Lich King and Lets not forget that if talion didn’t keep mordor at Bay Lord of the rings wouldn’t have happened he is pretty much the Real hero of it all
How are we meant to like Eltariel when she didn't even have the decency to apologise for betraying Talion. Just refuses to accept she made a bad call and is the reason for Talions situation in the first place.
And that's what made me dislike her. Not the betrayal, not her overall holier-than-thou attitude. Both of those make sense for her character. It's the fact that the narrative acts as if her flaws don't exist and that she's in the right. The fact she doesn't even apologize to Talion cements it. I could have liked her if the story gave her actual development and acknowledged her flaws but it doesn't. This is NOT how you write a likable character.
Goddam!!
Talin story is so sad!
And ended like a victim!!!
WHY!?
In the end, that is exactly what Talion was - a victim. A victim of Sauron, who ruined his life. A victim of Celebrimbor, who used him and threw him away. Even Galadriel saw him as nothing but a tool, and later - a threat. Only Eltariel saw something human in him, but by then it was too little, too late.
Herman Urus if only eltariel was an interesting character then her beliefs could hold merit
can anyone explain that why didn't she give celebrimbor's ring back to Talion? I mean.. Talion wouldn't have turned into a Nazgul then and he could still hold back the armies of Sauron..
Marco Rácz because plot lol no real good reason.
Marco Rácz because without it he wouldn’t be able to do any of the wraith shit that was all celebrimbor
Marco Rácz Remeber in the beginning of game when talion had uncorrupted ring he couldn’t do any wraith type abilities without celebrimbor all the ring really did was keep talion alive without celebrimbor being with him
Cause she a Fuckin
Greedy Elf who always go for the power grab
I swear to god these niggas are all elves
Sauron's an elf
Fuckin celebrimbor guy is also a elf
I'd rather be playin as a nazgul than this bitch in the DLC
@@lodii7246 Since when is sauron an elf
I really don't like Eltariel. Hope she isn't the main character if there's another game.
She will be. It literally sets up an Eltariel/Celebrimbor combo. She’ll follow his call and they’ll bind to eachother. Maybe in the next game they’ll be able to make Eltariel more likeable and explain her motivations a bit more. Don’t write her off so easily. Could be a great character there.
@@TriconTv the character that betrayed and killed talion? No please
D4yzR3kt As likeable as Talion is, he’s irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. Eltariel wasn’t going to let him get in the way of stopping Sauron.
She probably will be since we see her search for Celebrimbor while still having the New Ring after Frodo destroys the One Ring
@@TriconTv but i cant like a character that is basically an asshole, talion is 10x more skilled smart and the most important without him most of things would.not exist in me franchise
It is Ethariel's fault that Talion became Nazgul
At least talion found peace after death and rejoined his family. Such is life, you fought until the last of your humanity strips away. You die with the fall of sauron. Fought a thousand battles for decades alone. Rest hero, you deserve it.
I still love talion though
Who doesn't? Everyone just hates eltarial
Slodogk I don’t like Talion that much
who doesn't! lol
I wish the bodyguard of Talions whould come to the rescue and fight off Eltarial while talion escapes somewhere. Just saying he must of had like 20 or more dominanted orcs anyway if I was the bodyguard of Talion I whould use my instant no chance kill on her and say surprise! (*throws a knife at Eltarial throat dies*)
God I can’t read no chance with out here the tog no chance sound effect
@kaelyn elizabeth I did not ask if you could and you can’t no chance give you none of the press the button at the right time to live stuff
It's truly tragic that Talion was forced into such unfortunate positions. If only there was one ring that didn't bind him to darkness or to the will of another :[
Her face shows not an ounce of sympathy for what she's done to Talion, she literally destroyed this man and lead him to a fate worse then death and she tries killing him. I swear monolith can tell how much we all hate her and they just won't make a game based on her alone
Eltariel is so edgy and boring.
Chooch Factor we’ve got to impress the feminazis if we want to keep them from boycotting the game
Really? I enjoyed her character in this because it was essentially a redemption story.
she did that to herself fuck that redemption. she didn't sacrifice shit to have redemption if she wanted redemption she could've given the ring back to talian and he wouldn't turn into a nazgul. she is a bitch.
Nah i hope they boycott so they can get the fuck out of video games
Dude, she went after Celebrimbor after he escaped mount Doom rather than join the rest of her kin because she wants to make sure he doesn't do some evil shit again. that's a pretty big sacrifice.
Talion is one of the best characters and the fact that everyone basically betrayed him leaves a sour taste in my mouth, he may not be cannon within the actual lore but I could easily see him fitting in, not to mention dude resisted turning into a Nazgul for like what, 200-300 years? Frodo and other people lasted like a week or two at best, not to mention he held of the orc hordes during this time as well.
He lasted 50 years but that's still damn impressive
They somehow made nasghul not intimidating
The Chosen Captains were more problematic to fight then Nazgul...
Victor Yarn yes
Who would have thought a goddamn orc could be more interesting than the fucking Nine
@@archangellogan4258 yeah I had the same feeling but it was much greater with Isildur cuz I always wondered what happened to him after he died and if he actually IS a Naz'gul canonically that makes Aragorn confronting them all even more noteworthy since one of them would then be his ancestor.
@@sekira4516 Lorewise there is no fucking chance Isildur is a ringwraith, because first of all the rings don't bring people back from death (Isildur died), and The Nine were created 1000 years before Isildur was born, and 5000 years before Hammerhand was born
I find it funny the Nazguls have been trying to recruit Talion for a while, but when he finally puts on the ring of a nazgul they call him not worthy of it.
Those were Rogue Nazguls, not ones under Saurons control. They thought themselves better than the other Nazguls, and the Witch King too.
since when were some of the 9 kings that became the nazgul, women?
There’s a vision explaining exactly that after the boss fight. God you’re lazy.
Greg B it’s not in this video not everyone has access to their moms credit card so they can buy the dlcs and know for sure
@@azraelwolfsblood2902 Your comment started right, this isn't in the video. But the fact that we are watching a video makes the ending really stupid, since anyone can find another video with that part by searching for it, no need to buy the game.
Finally someone else who actually read all the books the Nazgul tittle refers solely to the Nine Kings of men that held the rings of power that Sauron used to deceive them Talion and the others would be Wights which can technically only be created after a Morgul blade has pierced your heart for example what nearly happened to Frodo@@Nick-pc7km
I love the uruk at 2:57 and his story telling lmao
Same
Corrupted Talion looks so badass
I literally rushed the main story just to get the skin
@@yorukage5926 You commented this twice.
Yes Talion
You fought this war all by yourself
Would have been better if Eltariel gave him the new ring. She’s not dead and doesn’t need it.
Watching Talion teleport around ad avoid being hit during fights makes you think... how freaking skilled did Uruk’s who killed him have to be 😟
I will never acknowledge this DLC
3:49 If I were Talion I would have retorted by telling her that Celebrimbor had no quarrels with dominating orcs and forcing them to fight for him.
I would then mention Celebrimbor driving Bruz to insanity cause of his betrayal.
With enough slam dunks like that maybe the moronic elf Eltariel would finally start to see that Celebrimbor is in fact no better than Sauron.
The rings are cruel.
This is likely headcanon, but...
At 7:42 the ring should be about to overwhelm him, yet it allows Eltariel to see Talion as the man she respects one more time so he can make a final request. Almost like it is using Elariel's respect and care for Talion as a shield to buy itself enough time to turn Talion into a wraith.
"As one power falls, another one rises, that is the way of Mordor" No, that is the way of cockroaches.
She was literally corrupted by celebrimbor's ring and this entire thing proves it. With celebrimbor's ring she had the option to literally give it back and save Talion from his fall but instead fucked him over multiple times due to simple greed. Forsook everything talion fought for and LOST, before resigning herself to tracking down celebrimbor who somehow wormed his way out of being destroyed like Sauron. In short, EVERYTHING that happened is her and celebrimbor's fault. Including talion's fate.
i love how Akoth doesnt have an Handprint on him inthe cutscenes nor does his model in game it shows that Uruks werent always dominated but sometimes joined Talion willingly
Handprints only appear on their face when you shame captains
@@friccle_ i thought they appear once there dominated
@@buschmenschhelmutderzersto9232 only when shamed, grunts on the other hand do appear when dominated
In SoM handprints always appeared but for SoW its different
Think talion deserves a special mask
What was stopping her from giving him the new ring? Tallion would still live and he wouldn't turn into a nazgul
The only reason I can think of is he might've been too corrupted for it.
Otherwise taking off the ring may have killed him, he spent a lot of time between losing Celibrimbor and putting on Isildur's ring.
If he was given the new ring at this point he would have given it to Sauron. He was barely Talion anymore
I like how this dlc showed tailons struggle throughout the shadow wars
Talion is forever banished from death
If celebrimbor Spring is incorruptible why didn't they just swap rings for a while, elves are much less susceptible to the rings aren't they?
Kelsey Baker then the true ending of shadow of war never would have happened
Kelsey Baker elves can be corrupted to the elves, it's the dwarves that can't be corrupted. That why sauron wanted those rings back, and the rings that celebrimbor sent to the elves. Those rings were pure, so sauron seeked those rings to corrupt.
More pressingly Eltariel didn't even need the ring! Talion needs it to survive Eltariel is capable of living without it
Eltariel didn't need this ring. She had that Light of Galadriel after all. Talion would use Celebrimbor's ring far better, because he would just dominate orcs instead of doing fucking favors for them. It is another interesting thing- Eltariel could talk with those orcs, when Talion was attacked by them immediately after they saw him.
I mean,she needed Celebrimbor's ring only for those two fingers back,she wasn't dying or anything,as skilled warrior as she is,I think not having 2 fingers would be just a slight inconvenience for her and her fight style.But nah man,I'm not gonna give you pure ring so you can be immortal,just stay with that ring that slowly turns you into full fledged Nazgul....
Joining Sauron's side apparently makes you way less overpowered (with Galion being able to beat each nazgul and Eltariel).
Eltariel is one of the dev's mary sue self-insert and ruined the plot. Change my mind.
Must have been infected by Star wars during the development.
See how Talion beat Eltariel even when she has the new ring? If Talion wear that ring and come to Sauron, the battle will end in within minutes. No wonder why Shelob try to prevented "Talion wear the new ring"'s future
yeah, the man literally wore a much weaker ring compared to celebrimbors (because it wasn't perfect and was technically controlled by the saurons ring) and still walked into minus morgul, kicked so much orc ass, and proceeded to beat the shit out of the nazgul and the witch king.
Only for him to lose to plot because the game developers made it that way.
Talion has been stalling the forces of darkness alone against an army of orks for years. But he got betray by his most trusted ally and got fucking killed by a self righteous elf
Think Eltariel wasn't a bit much of an ass at the end when you consider she could kill Talion at Gorgoroth at the order of Galadriel, but decided to honor his last wish of taking him home to Gondor. Sadly he was far too weaken and the ring took advantage of his state and finally turn him into Nazgul. So in the end Eltariel didn't just kill Talion to complete her mission, but also her attempt to save him. You could see her grieving for him after seeing his memory of him not a ranger, but a man who had to suffer so many years being denied death, peace and rest, all to carry out his duty. The last thing she could do for him was to honor his sacrifice by continuing his work
Man, they could have had some really cool character development for everyone (Eltariel most of all), tied up their plot better to fit or at least make sense with the original lotr story, maybe could have had her ACTUALLY help Talion by fighting off or taking some of his darkness, had an amazing man and elf couple who hold off the darkness together and liberate the Orcs & Ologs from Sourons mental slavery by guiding them to be there own race, and make a statement that dark isn't always evil by tying it all together with the dark Talion and the unused dark Eltariel skins be the heroes...
But nah, they went with Nazgul sisters and killed off Talion 🤦🏾♂️
10:00 Well, Eltariel should at least apologize, right?
And this is why any verse with Elves needs a Pelinal Whitestrake.
Eltariel:"You are not the only one fighting."
Tearofgrace:"It was for 80% of the goddamn time I was."
It is beyond me why people try to hate this game so much, it's truly a masterpiece
Celebrimbor being free, well that means a third game i think
Shadow of War The Blade Of Feminism DLC
I'm all against forced feminism bullshit in stuff like Star Wars and other relevant titles, but that's some tinfoil hat shit. A female elf that can hold her ground is nothing out of the ordinary in lotr.
Killer Dude woof. Salt.
@Otto Bergmann (Helenelundsskolan) Galadriel is not a warrior.
Nazguls were never women.
@@Hafer_ Even though all battles were fought by males and Galadriel was just really for support, not this super sword master.
Profit Potato Female nazgul?
Let's be real, we were more invested in the bits with Talion than whatever the elf was doing
2:50 i have always to laugh so hard about this conversation
Glad I watched this to see the good parts of the dlc, instead of needing to play most of the time with tis elf.
Picture this for a sequel, eltariel knowing that she can’t defeat celebrimbor alone calls upon the best necromancers in Mordor and once again rises the gravewalker from the dead
Why didn’t Eltarial just give talion the new ring back
It's practically useless without cely
Because she a greedy bitch
@@garrettrowe3897 more of that, she's an elf
I remember her saying " you told me when the time came you would do what is needed"
Everyone hoping that meant she was gonna get brutalized.
7:36 Talion story is so sad he only wanted to do what was best for middle earth he did not deserve the fate he got
yet in the entire lotr series many do not get what they deserve.
Everyone keeps saying Talion is dead but he cant be dead, It is said in the main story that Nazguls rings have the same banished from death feature the new ring does. Which means at the true ending of the regular story still works. He just fully embraces the Nazgul look once his body reforms or whatever it does.
Dude she could’ve just given Talion the New Ring after they first fought and Talion would have an incorruptible ring and could’ve held back Sauron for way longer without having to worry about corruption.
It’s clear that she didn’t kill Talion, it seemed like she just banished him like the previous Nazgul and what Talion did to the Witch King.
He would then come back and do the whole ‘Shadow Wars arc’ then fully fell to corruption decades later.
Even tho we want talion in a 3rd installment to fight celbrimor and elatriel i honestly feel like he deserves the peace of death at this point he did everything he could and singlehandedly delayed the nazgul's and sauron's plan to have a full on invasion to middle earth, he basically bought enough time for everyone to be ready and for the LOTR Group to even come into fruition, delaying sauron singlegandedly was not an easy task yet he was a hero that no one will sing songs to for no one knew he existed
The reason most of us are mad bcoz, we see that 50 hour mark on the save file. We've heard hundred lines of dialogue and even though he isn't the most interesting, we became familiar with Talion. Him becoming a nazgul is awesome because the true "ending" is when you finish every fortress and you are given the last cutscene where *spoilers* he walks into the sunset meaning he's retired and is mortal (I think so.) So him becoming a nazgul IN THE END was worth it, sort of. But I dont understand this DLC. In the last cutscene it says that Talion controlled Mordor until his body physically no longer can fight against the Isridul ring and he joins the Nine, but this kinda changes it. So does Talion not get to live as a mortal in the last cutscene. Is he forever a nazgul bcoz of the dlc. Idk pls tell me. I feel like not playing the dlc and just getting the last cutscene is more fulfilling and concludes things much better. Also seems alot more heroic and more Talion. Either he rules Mordor until his body genuinely can't control the ring or he sides with them bcoz well Celembrimbor and Eltriel or whatever her name is betrayed his ass. Smh.
Real quick. My boy Talion is a great character and I'll fight you for it.
Now to the ending. By the end it is implied that Talion was freed from sauron after the dark lord was defeated meaning Talion's revenge and duty were fulfilled and he was allowed to pass on to the after life where his family was.
And from what I heard online this dlc takes places a bit of time before the list cutscene of the original game. Talion the Nazgul looses to the witch elf and he goes back at the top of minas morgul's tower where the other nazgul show up to greet him as a brother
Nazgul Talion is a badass
1:29 You once told me the world is gonna roll me.
I ain't the sharpest tool in the shed...