Pretty much. But EMS Madara doesn't have Wood Clones, so he'll have to use Shadow Clones for that, which are inferior. But anyway, if he takes the fight seriously, he deletes most of the members in less than a minute. Then he deals with Obito, Itachi and Pain.
@@giannixx Yea for sure. I know its Edo. If its EMS he could just whip out the perfect susanoo and pretty much most of them neex to pack up and go home
I think that you forgot that Orochimaru has Edo tensei in his arsenal, so if he were to use the perfected version to summon Hashirama and Tobirama, the fight could turn in his favor. Edit : I just finished the part with Pain / Nagato and it seems to me that you keep forgetting that Nagato can absorb all chakra-based attacks which include the Susa'no. This fact coupled with Nagato's ningendo ability can make Madara think twice before getting too close.
Actually I made sure to restrict Edo Tensei for Oro, you can see I put that over his picture around 7:17 in the video. Unfortunately I forgot to mention it when recording the voiceover, and was too lazy to add it in lol. On the second point, you're actually right I forgot to bring up how would Susano'o interact with Nagato's Preta Path ability. I don't think it changes anything (Madara can still kill him with Susano'o without even getting close through the shockwaves that destroyed mountains which were kilometers away), but I should've mentioned it ngl.
But he couldn't absorb Itachi susanno since Itachi susanoo chakra is mixed with yata mirror energy like a perfect mix. Yata mirror is red and Itachi is yellowish orange. Giving us the reddish orange susanoo
Also yata mirror and the sword only become weapons from armored susanno He can choose to mix the chakra with his susanno and not as a weapon. That's why Blazk zetsu states itachi is invincible
If I gave Orochimaru his Edo Tensei from OG Naruto, it wouldn't change anything. If I gave him Edo Tensei from War Arc, Edo Tensei Hashirama would literally just solo. So it's useless to do that
@@Gopstop222 itachi and pain are no match for madara if you don't belive your free to read articles and you can search on Google too Idk where u heard it from but it's not true
@@marcus7984Wake up to reality. Power scaling never goes as planned in this accursed Naruto world. The longer you watched Naruto the more you realize that the only things that truly exist are confusion, retcons, and inconsistencies. Listen, everywhere you look in this manga whenever there is a power claim that is a retcon as well. I’m just having fun butchering that speech. 😅
Hashiboob Also madara clears the whole akatsuki at the same time low dif. Not one individual stands a chance outside of very very unlikely circumstances.
Revived base eyeless madara blitzed post juubito fight sm naruto (he was able to get his arms up to defend himself..) so that puts madaras base speed past narutos sm ability to sense danger precognition. With just one rinnegan, he solo blitzed all 9 bijuu and ripped gyuki and kurama out of bee and naruto. With EMS, he would be more devastating because he'd have less options if we remove the abilities the rinnegan grants (meaning he has less non lethal options to choose from). I think his combination usage of genjutsu and taijutsu alone would handle almost all of the akatsuki. Itachi as well as he used jutsu spoke of madara to sasuke as if he considered madara beyond him, an itachi who was in possession of an armored susanoo with totsuka and yata armament along wjth tsukuyomi, amaterasu and izanami.
Ngl the amount of downplay here is wild. Madara’s more than capable of outputting more power than 4 tails naruto. He is definitely fast enough to catch deidara too.. if fking baby sasuke can blitz deidara there is no eay madara doesn't just do the same.. Its almost as of you are doing this under equal stats or something because madara is capable of just running through everyone with mostly taijutsu. And frankly he has durability feats that pretty much mean short of kamui. Totsuka, and poison he can't even be damaged by these characters.
What attack of 3T Madara has higher output than 4-tailed Naruto's TBB? Also Deidara is starting the fight in the air, on a bird, as otherwise he would get blitzed like you're saying. I explained that. I only have Itachi & Pain/Nagato & Obito not getting blitzed in neutral circumstances
@@t0xeus_ madara scales above the full 9 tails. So long story short if madara just decided to imbue enough chakra in any singular jutsu he can achieve similar results. We clearly see he is beyond the bijuu and more so rivals the 10 tails instead. Literally anything he throws works once the power gap gets that large. Deidara starting in the air doesn't matter either. Once again sasuke was able to blitz him in the air.. twice if I recall correctly. And to put it very simply if sasuke can do that then madara could replicate that feat 50x faster. Also madara still is fast enough to blitz itachi, orange mask obito, and pain. You literally aren't grasping the difference between these characters and their stats. Itachi and obito are baseline light speed based off of feats. Madara as a weakened edo that just definitively scales below ems madara was capable of reacting to speeds calculated at 50-70x light speed. So if the two fastest akatsuki members stop at light speed and madara starts at 50x that speed you have to be able to see the issue here Even ignoring speed he just outright has the strength to one shot everyone here when ever an attack lands. The difference is like day and night
Also are we gonna talk about how he says Madara is slower than 4th raikage at 17:55 just to gigawank Itachi but then completely contradicts himself at 23:50 just to downplay obito
@@perdomy Reaction speed =/= Movement speed. Like I literally said at 18:05, if Madara relies on his reaction speed, he can deal with Amaterasu, although he can't outright dodge it.
Damn bro I hate to hear that. Did you try listening on a different device? I wonder if the problem persists. Personally I don't notice it at all, so I am unsure if my speakers&headphones just suck or I am just insensitive to it
You’re kinda underestimating Sasori. Now I know Sasori would lose but if he has prior knowledge he’s losing but taking Madara with him. Sasori’s poison is incurable and during Madara’s time Sasori wasn’t around so he wouldn’t know how to deal with it. Plus you’re talking about prime alive Madara and there’s no statements of Madara being immune to poison. Also, Hiruko puppet isnt useless it’s also used similar to Deidara’s goggle but more advanced making him immune to genjutsu. Take into account too some of Sasori’s puppets have Sharingans in them and all of them are 3 Tomoe and Iron Sand is a direct counter to fire as well along with Sasori being able to use both Fire and Water style.
@@dervalentin8208 Sasori has poison clouds he could deploy at close range and Sasori is not an idiot he can also see Madara through the puppets so he could use those Sharingan puppets to at least slow down Madara’s speed from his perspective.
@@yoda8172 I admit Sasori is smart and has many Tricks up his sleeve but i dont think Madara would fall for his poison clouds which he could easily react to with his sharingan. And I believe he definitely was capable of killing Sasori with one blow
Plus Deidara is bad at close combat while Madara is well rounded so if Madara gets close he'd clap his cheeks and Deidara is useless without his detonating clay cuz he can't fight
Let's keep it 100. He pulls his 🥒 out and he flats out Grapes them rather it's a 2 on one or the whole entire group in general & there's not a dam thing they can do about! Simple & Plain !
Why isnsasori always so underrated? He is more powerfull than half ofnthe akatsuki in ratings and can summon more than a hundred puppets. Als if sasori had made someone powerful to a puppet would be very cool, imagine sasori controlling a madara puppet
1 vs 1 he wins for sure, but taking on all of em at once? No. Remmeber that time Madara got hit by Temari while he was busy dealing with the Chunin army? But here he'd be busy dealing with a bunch of Kage levels with deadly jutsu and abilities that can oneshot Madara. Madara would lose 10/10 if he is to face all the Akatsuki at once.
What version of Madara are we talking about? He was an old man when he unlocked the Rinnegan. Plus he forgot that Itachi had Shusi’s eye 👁️ & only gave it to Naruto before he fought Sasuke. A healthy Itachi with Shusi’s eye vs Madara with no Rinnegan would be in Itachi’s favor. Both know Izuami.. but Itachi is very analytical
Let’s do madara v. Akatsuki … but we are also going to give them buffs and plot armor to help. Come onnnnnn. The only member who gives him difficulty is pain, itachi and orochemaru
@@bradleeLangAre we reading the same series? Reanimated Itachi is DEFINITELY the strongest version of Itachi, Even moreso than an alive Itachi without illnesses. How is a guy who was more or less relative to SM Kabuto (I say more or less because it was a 2v1 with Sasuke and Itachi saving each other at one point in time.) Like, what? And yes, I know Itachi wasn’t trying to kill him, but he wasn’t heavily outscaling Kabuto either way in a whole 2v1. Even Sasuke was confirmed to surpass Itachi in terms of ocular powers during the war, but Madara with his own feats heavily outscaled Sasuke in that front. What are you smoking?
I feel madara fighting all akatsuki will be a very tough match considering u have someone like itachi its a pity they never gave him eternal mangekyo cause i feel he should have gotten it when he killed his entire village
10:55 - so are we just going to ignore the fact that even though Deidara did say he developed countermeasures for sharingan genjutsu, Sasuke was still able to get him with it more than once in their fight. And Sasuke only had the base sharingan. Madara here has EMS which would be far more potent.
for deidara's turn, yasaka beads/magatama exists, its like a shuriken that susano'o can shoot out and since madara can literally use susano'o without his eye, using susano'o on thee tomoe to snipe deidara wont be a problem, esp since yasaka beads can home(?)
How exactly is Madara pressured into perfect susanoo by jinchuriki? Considering he slapped the same tailed beasts while blind and supposedly weaker (in his edo form)
ik is strange i don't belive to even i like itachi .... but this statement are Kishi mistake .... don't get me wrong but .... Orochimaru leave akatsuki beacose " ITACHI WAS WAY MORE POWERFULL THAN HIM " literally orochimaru told that word's exaclty like that to kabuto ..... ALL OF THIS WHILE HE WAS ALREADY IN AKATSUKI WITH PAIN !!!! .... " NOT GOING TO BELIVE THAT BEACOSE CHARACTER STATEMENT CUZ THESE STATEMENT ARE SHIT , NOBODY IN THAT SERIES ARE OMNISCIENT SO THEY WILL NOT BE EVEN CLOSE WITH THEIR STATEMENT SO I CHOOSE TO BELIVE ONLY THE PROOVED ONE " Example of bad statement : (well this was over interpretated by ppl but) The Original statement was : THERE ARE OTSUTSUKI STRONGER THAN KAGUYA ( AGREE BUT MOMOSHIKI EVEN FUSED ISN'T ONE OF THEM ) so Sasuke Claim if there will be other threat like Kaguya he will deal with that on his own , not he will beat kaguya if is needed but let's finish that ... If they belive Sasuke SOLO Kaguya , that should mean He is Stronger than Her .... FAKE TO SAY SASUKE SOLO KAGUYA IS LIKE YOU GOING TO SAY " SASUKE SOLO HAGOROMO&HAMURA AT THE SAME TIME " CUZ THEY FOUGHT 100% OF KAGUYA 3 MONTH , EVEN IF WE TALK ABOUTH THAT 50% OF KAGUYA .... THINKING 100% KAGUYA FOUGHT 3 MONTH HAGOROMO&HAMURA ..... 50% KAGUYA WIN AGAIST HAGOROMO OR HAMURA CUZ NO 6TH PATH CHIBAKU TENSEI ... WITH MAKE US TO CONCLUDE IS SASUKE SOLO HAGOROMO ??? That's the most ILOGICAL QUESTION EVER DONE .... REMEMBER HAGOROMO IN NARUTO SHIPPUDEN IS DEATH THAT MEAN HE IS NO LONGER 10 TAILS JKRK BUT HE STILL HAS THE STAFF MADE FROM TRUTH SEEKING ORB RINNE-SHARINGAN AND STUFF.... REMEMBER AGAIN DEATH HAGOROMO HAS ENOUGHT CHACKRA TO TRANSPORT ALL TAIL BEAST + NARUTO + SASUKE + SAKURA + DMS KAKASHI BACK TO THEIR DIMENSION ... WITCH IS WAY WAY MORE THAN 6 PORTAL OPEN FOR HIMSELF SASUKE DO TILL HE GET OUT OF CHACKRA
You are forgetting so many things like Madara have rinnegan to absorb any jutsu or have hashirama s sage mode to dodge anything also have wood style to catch flying opponents, can use tengai shinsei to over anyone or limbo to one shot anyone
I didn't forget anything, I said at the beginning of the video that this is living Madara before he gets all these abilities that you're talking about.
false obito could and nagato could as well if they were to go in completely serious an not let him use his full strength. i wish i could include itachi at full health but sadly even he would struggle if alone he'd need help. but obito knows all madara's tricks he even knew he had stuffed a makeshift control tag into his body which is why he made kakashi destroy it so he could defy madara's will. an nagato at full health would annihilate both woodstyle and his susano the guy almost murdered two perfect jinchuriki all by himself for crying out loud lol and he was the only akatsuki to succeed in completely destroying the hidden leaf and nearly capturing nine tails without the need of a partner.
@@DeusGamezexactly. There is no scenario madara loses to Itachi. Itachi is a weaker version of Madara in every aspect. Video also forgot to mention that Itachi can only use 3 ms ability before being useless. Madara can uses 3 shadow clones to deal with Itachi with breaking a sweat
I think you over estimate the Akatsuki and underestimate Madara. I know your trying to high ball the Akatsuki...but Madara wasn't really worried about having to deal with 10 tails Obito. The rinnigan is his. He knows its abilities, and honestly none of them have the Chakra levels to outpace him. And even in edo form, Itachi doesn't have the Chakra levels to deal with Madara. Infinite chakra doesn't matter if the maximum amount is too weak to matter. I would literally move everyone down a spot except Oro which can stay in 3T.
i think that if madara doasnt know abt sasoris poison, he could have a chance with the sand, madara in war ark did let himself get hit by gaaras sand, but if madaras sharingan can see the poison, then its the end for sasori
Also i doubt that Obito could just teleport into the Susanoo of Madara. Even with the 7 Jinchuuriki Obito still wouldnt have a chance. Madara should even be able to bring all the Bijuus and Pain Summonings under his control with his own Mangekyo.
Wait but this is the madara that fought hashirama right? So how is he using clones? In their era the only 2 capable of using clones that had physical properties are tobirama and hashirama, the clones we see madara use after his revival are wood clones since he now possess hashirama cells
I never understood how edo Madara is considered weaker than his prime self (before he was rezzed). Because edo Madara has Rennigan. Has Hashirama cells plus unlimited chakra. He should be stronger than his prime self was. Since he didn’t unlock the Rennigan until he was super old. Now RESURRECTED PRIME MADARA yes would be stronger than his original prime self. Because of the reasons I just listed. This part never made sense. Hashi at the point of them being Edo shouldn’t be able to compare current Madara he’s seeing to his original prime self without Rennigan and Hashi cells.
@@Grim-c1d Deidara joined the Akatsuki after he lost to Itachi's genjutsu and losing to him made him hate Uchihas so he trained his eye to counteract the sharingan
Honestly no one aside war arc obito is pushing madara to use perfect susanoo, -edo itachi will be stealmated by the full armored susanoo and run out of chackra (when talking about edos i just assume there is a dude from the alliance ready to seal the deal when the edo is restrained) -pain will be wacked so bad its not even funny, sage naruto was trashing pain left and right, blind madara just kicked the shit out of him Nagato gets wacked by madrass superior speed and regular susanoo
Why do you think madara has to dodge amaterasu. Isn't it useless against chakra style cloaks? Like hiw naruto can just go to his mode stuff and remove the black flame from his body onto the chakra
Bro u forgot all of madaras abilities if madara can't reach deidara he can jsut drop a frikin asteroid on his head and u forgot his woodstyle he can use aswell he would blitz half the akatski with hashiramas wood style only.
Let's be realistic, if Orochimaru had to fight Madara, no way is he not using the reanimation jutsu to summon Hashirama and Tobirama😂 But then again I see why you chose not to include that scenario in this video
Bros answer to everything is Madara running around and “outlasting” them. Or Perfect Susano and one slashing them 😂 Here’s the real way it goes, healthy Itachi and Nagato pushes Madara to his limits. Stop wanking Madara lol.
i like itachi and he is a genius but with madara thats gunna be a no deal, madara knows way too much about the uchiha an its secrets it the whole reason why he was able to evolve his eternal eyes into that of the rinnegan. the only hand itachi could play to win is shisui's genjutsu as that overwrites a person's free agency/will everything else madara has witnessed/used at some point in the uchiha's history there is a reason why kuro-zetsu(kaguya's will) went to great lengths to revive him he was THE strongest uchiha and incarnation of indra that he ever witnessed/partnered with.
madara solo akatsuki but he cant solo sannin remember akatsuki doesnt have teamwork unlike sanin I still don't understand why there are so many people who can't understand the logic that there is one and only one ninja team that kishimoto has put forward^^ it's the sannin together: 3 legendary ninja it's not just a title to make nice, kishimoto gave them this name because it is the most complete ninja team we never had the opportunity to see them fighting together in the manga at their prime but it is obvious that it is well beyond what we imagine. we know very well that team work was introduced as the main factor in the narutoverse , even 2 random ninja from the root as a team were abble to put a quite nice resistance against obito and now we have a team of 3 ninja famous for that team work .. even orochimaru, as arrogant as he is, said that adding a medical ninja to a team of 3 ninja changed the face of war and the rules of the ninja world^^ and the first to have included this principle are precisely the sannin tsunade medical ninja almost immortal and high strengh orochimaru almost immortal with extrem defense/resistance jiraiya extrem offensive move and versatility all those 3 together are considered as the ultimate team ninja sannin wins very easily against trash madara even in 2024 I don't understand why so many people on youtube ignore manga fact^^ iam on youtube seeing naruto/sannin videos since 2005, it was kind and serious. now its just garbage. garbage youtube moderator need to do their work to restore the old serious youtube that respect sannin
There's a serious problem here. Against Pain or White Mask Obito, Madara will try to grab his Rinnegan and implant it on himself. All he has to do is to touch Obito while he is tangible, and against Pain he just needs to track down Nagato. Then alive Madara gets 1 to 2 Rinnegan 💀
Obito orange mask better than itachi uchiha even on edotensei.....obito have brave enough to fight kabuto in sage mode ....with 5 akatsuki's edotensei until he open madara uchiha....
I’ve never seen an Akatsuki video that accurately describes Kakuzu. Homie is strong as balls. His fight against Team 10 and Kakashi was after he sealed not one, but TWO tailed beasts at the same time. He hadn’t eaten or drank anything in days, was very low on chakra, sleep deprived, AND had to fight not one, not two, but 3 ninjas at the same time AND STILL WON WILL FEW ISSUES (he only lost one heart to a surprise lightning attack from Kakashi). After all of the above, 2 more ninja show up, one a wood style user and the other the main character lol. THEY STILL LOST (Naruto failed and Yamato had to save him). Finally it took one direct impact from an S rank Jutsu that a Kage would later forbid him from usage due the destruction. AND HE WAS STILL ALIVE. The only reason he couldn’t keep fighting is because Rasenshuriken attacks cells. But Kakashi had to deal a final blow to ensure he died. JESUS CHRAIST. He’s also the ONLY known ninja to survive the first 3 great shinobi wars, a feat neither Madara nor Hashirama has. He also survived a fight against Hashirama himself (YES, I understand we don’t know the degree. But the whole point of this reference was that he survived because he was strong enough to, which again is a Madara level feat). I’d like to believe Kakuzu was second to Pain, MAYBE third to Pain and Itachi. But thinking not even Itachi could do much unless using Totsuka blade or a lucky Amaterasu shot. Don’t forget Kakuzu’s hands can travel through the ground, the one weak spot of Susano’o. I believe Kakuzu pushes Madara to perfect Susano’o. Madara doesn’t posses any strong Lightning style skills, which is the only Jutsu we saw defeat Kakuzu’s earth heart. Kakuzu has both insane stamina, speed, and chakra levels (he was spamming A-S rank ninjutsu from 4 different hearts at the same time after dealing two tailed beasts…). Regular Susano’o can be countered with his separating hands. Idk how genjutsu would go considering Kakuzu’s hearts are somewhat sentient. Perfect Susano’o is Madara’s best shot.
Obito orange mask better than itachi...even edotensei nagato .....he have brave to fight kabuto when kabuto offer to him become the alliance but obito refuse and choose to fight them all until kabuto open madara box
I feel like standing there and watching Hidan finish the ritual is exactly what Madara would do lol.
Gendjutsued to drink his own blood
Izanagi:
Facts 😂😂@@SnailBeast
All of them at the same time:
Madara: Would you like my clones to use Susanoo?
Pretty much. But EMS Madara doesn't have Wood Clones, so he'll have to use Shadow Clones for that, which are inferior. But anyway, if he takes the fight seriously, he deletes most of the members in less than a minute. Then he deals with Obito, Itachi and Pain.
@@giannixx Yea for sure. I know its Edo. If its EMS he could just whip out the perfect susanoo and pretty much most of them neex to pack up and go home
@@giannixxi mean tbf it doesnt matter that much as the clones are very difficult to damage in their susanoos.
I love how the question of the video ain't even "Can he beat them ?" but "how easy would it be for him to do so ?"
pain slam
@@Idcsaiyan..
@@Idcsaiyan ...
@@Idcsaiyaneither you're trolling or your just an idiot
Prime nagato kills him
Even if madara don't have limbs he will put hidan in genjutsu😂😂😂
Listening to this on car speakers is deafening with the whistle sound every time he pronounces a word with an S
Lol my bad. Thanks for letting me know tho, I'll try to fix it for the next video
@@t0xeus_ 🌞🫶
I think that you forgot that Orochimaru has Edo tensei in his arsenal, so if he were to use the perfected version to summon Hashirama and Tobirama, the fight could turn in his favor.
Edit : I just finished the part with Pain / Nagato and it seems to me that you keep forgetting that Nagato can absorb all chakra-based attacks which include the Susa'no. This fact coupled with Nagato's ningendo ability can make Madara think twice before getting too close.
Actually I made sure to restrict Edo Tensei for Oro, you can see I put that over his picture around 7:17 in the video. Unfortunately I forgot to mention it when recording the voiceover, and was too lazy to add it in lol.
On the second point, you're actually right I forgot to bring up how would Susano'o interact with Nagato's Preta Path ability. I don't think it changes anything (Madara can still kill him with Susano'o without even getting close through the shockwaves that destroyed mountains which were kilometers away), but I should've mentioned it ngl.
But he couldn't absorb Itachi susanno since Itachi susanoo chakra is mixed with yata mirror energy like a perfect mix. Yata mirror is red and Itachi is yellowish orange. Giving us the reddish orange susanoo
Also yata mirror and the sword only become weapons from armored susanno
He can choose to mix the chakra with his susanno and not as a weapon. That's why Blazk zetsu states itachi is invincible
edo wouldn’t even matter. also madara knows the rinnegan abilities
Nagato wouldn’t have Rinnegan, Madara would have his own Rinnegan
Lets Not forget that Madara has his own unknown Mangekyo ability, which some even reckon to be some sort of time Controll
Where did you get that false information 😂
@@anti5ocia7 what r u yappin about
Why the F you didn't give orochimaru edo tensei? He's much higher
I forgot all about ts 😭😭😭
If I gave Orochimaru his Edo Tensei from OG Naruto, it wouldn't change anything. If I gave him Edo Tensei from War Arc, Edo Tensei Hashirama would literally just solo. So it's useless to do that
Still is part of his arsenal @@t0xeus_
Orochimaru and Obito both solo Madara
@t0xeus_ no it isn't lol you're capping. He's the reason the shinobis won the war
Pain, Tobi and Itachi are the ones he'll actually consider as a living being
bro knew no one can beat Madara ten tails
ten tails madara is hax this is about normal madara he gets mopped by pain and itachi
@@Gopstop222 itachi and pain are no match for madara if you don't belive your free to read articles and you can search on Google too Idk where u heard it from but it's not true
@@Gopstop222 Madara can solo the entire akatsuki they will probably give him a good fight compared to the 5 kage you can search it if you don't belive
@@nightkiller0077 search for what? source:(dude trust me)? lmao what are you coping about madara gets low diffed against entire akatsuki
@@Gopstop222 madara > atkatsuki, cry about it.
All of them at the same time:
Madara: do you not know the danger that’s in front of you?😈
I guess you don't agree with the Noodles scaling for Kakuzu, then
Lmaoo, Noodles' Kakuzu does the best out of the Akatsuki, that's for sure
@@t0xeus_ I'll take that, as a no, you don't then
@@marcus7984Wake up to reality. Power scaling never goes as planned in this accursed Naruto world. The longer you watched Naruto the more you realize that the only things that truly exist are confusion, retcons, and inconsistencies. Listen, everywhere you look in this manga whenever there is a power claim that is a retcon as well.
I’m just having fun butchering that speech. 😅
You underestimate Orochimaru. Orochimaru studies everything. He is a genius and great at strategy. Orochimaru would push Madura to using Susano.
Akatsuki orochimaru got fodderized by kid itachi
@@AyamesChronicles thats only because of dojutsu, orochimaru is stronger than kid itachi, its just the matchup and he got caught offguard
@@creamsoda1 imagine catching a sannin in their prime off guard when they know you have a sharingan 🤣
Orochimaru solos Naruto and Sasuke in Naruto. He smashes macara
@@AncientChi and then someone lets him out of the cacoon after ending the infinite tsukiyomo
I love a new clever way to analyze Naruto fights
Hashiboob
Also madara clears the whole akatsuki at the same time low dif. Not one individual stands a chance outside of very very unlikely circumstances.
Revived base eyeless madara blitzed post juubito fight sm naruto (he was able to get his arms up to defend himself..) so that puts madaras base speed past narutos sm ability to sense danger precognition.
With just one rinnegan, he solo blitzed all 9 bijuu and ripped gyuki and kurama out of bee and naruto.
With EMS, he would be more devastating because he'd have less options if we remove the abilities the rinnegan grants (meaning he has less non lethal options to choose from).
I think his combination usage of genjutsu and taijutsu alone would handle almost all of the akatsuki.
Itachi as well as he used jutsu spoke of madara to sasuke as if he considered madara beyond him, an itachi who was in possession of an armored susanoo with totsuka and yata armament along wjth tsukuyomi, amaterasu and izanami.
great video bro , new subscriber
Imagine being so OP that the narriator has to give madara handicaps.
Ngl the amount of downplay here is wild. Madara’s more than capable of outputting more power than 4 tails naruto. He is definitely fast enough to catch deidara too.. if fking baby sasuke can blitz deidara there is no eay madara doesn't just do the same..
Its almost as of you are doing this under equal stats or something because madara is capable of just running through everyone with mostly taijutsu. And frankly he has durability feats that pretty much mean short of kamui. Totsuka, and poison he can't even be damaged by these characters.
What attack of 3T Madara has higher output than 4-tailed Naruto's TBB?
Also Deidara is starting the fight in the air, on a bird, as otherwise he would get blitzed like you're saying. I explained that.
I only have Itachi & Pain/Nagato & Obito not getting blitzed in neutral circumstances
@@t0xeus_ madara scales above the full 9 tails. So long story short if madara just decided to imbue enough chakra in any singular jutsu he can achieve similar results. We clearly see he is beyond the bijuu and more so rivals the 10 tails instead. Literally anything he throws works once the power gap gets that large.
Deidara starting in the air doesn't matter either. Once again sasuke was able to blitz him in the air.. twice if I recall correctly. And to put it very simply if sasuke can do that then madara could replicate that feat 50x faster. Also madara still is fast enough to blitz itachi, orange mask obito, and pain. You literally aren't grasping the difference between these characters and their stats. Itachi and obito are baseline light speed based off of feats. Madara as a weakened edo that just definitively scales below ems madara was capable of reacting to speeds calculated at 50-70x light speed. So if the two fastest akatsuki members stop at light speed and madara starts at 50x that speed you have to be able to see the issue here
Even ignoring speed he just outright has the strength to one shot everyone here when ever an attack lands. The difference is like day and night
Also are we gonna talk about how he says Madara is slower than 4th raikage at 17:55 just to gigawank Itachi but then completely contradicts himself at 23:50 just to downplay obito
@@perdomy Reaction speed =/= Movement speed. Like I literally said at 18:05, if Madara relies on his reaction speed, he can deal with Amaterasu, although he can't outright dodge it.
why doesn't obito make clone, that will make him overpowered😅
Tbf even if he does that, Madara can just match it with his own clones, so it doesn't get Obito anywhere
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Plz make hashirama vs Akatsuki yes the man who has beaten madara face off Akatsuki
1:52 the Hashi WHAT????
Obito was fighting multiple people at once and Madara was only fighting kcm2 naruto so yeah obito is probably just as fast if not faster
7:34 water drop 10/10
I would LOVE to watch this video, but your pronunciation of the letter S with that high pitch whistle is KILLING me
Damn bro I hate to hear that. Did you try listening on a different device? I wonder if the problem persists. Personally I don't notice it at all, so I am unsure if my speakers&headphones just suck or I am just insensitive to it
Saying obito was caught lacking when his only weakness was his own eye is kinda crazy
You’re kinda underestimating Sasori. Now I know Sasori would lose but if he has prior knowledge he’s losing but taking Madara with him. Sasori’s poison is incurable and during Madara’s time Sasori wasn’t around so he wouldn’t know how to deal with it. Plus you’re talking about prime alive Madara and there’s no statements of Madara being immune to poison. Also, Hiruko puppet isnt useless it’s also used similar to Deidara’s goggle but more advanced making him immune to genjutsu. Take into account too some of Sasori’s puppets have Sharingans in them and all of them are 3 Tomoe and Iron Sand is a direct counter to fire as well along with Sasori being able to use both Fire and Water style.
And how would He Hit Madara with his poison? Sasori would absolutely get blitzed and then one shotted by Madara
@@dervalentin8208 Sasori has poison clouds he could deploy at close range and Sasori is not an idiot he can also see Madara through the puppets so he could use those Sharingan puppets to at least slow down Madara’s speed from his perspective.
@@dervalentin8208 Like yeah speed into account Madara wins but Sasori is not gonna get 1 shotted I’ll tell you that much.
@@yoda8172 True.
@@yoda8172 I admit Sasori is smart and has many Tricks up his sleeve but i dont think Madara would fall for his poison clouds which he could easily react to with his sharingan. And I believe he definitely was capable of killing Sasori with one blow
Madara>Hidan (negative diff)
Madara>Deidara (negative diff)
Madara>Sasori (negative diff)
Madara>Kakuzu (no diff )
Madara>Konan (no diff)
Madara>Kisame (no diff)
Madara>Itachi (low diff)
Madara>Pain (low diff)
Madara>Obito (mid diff)
sasuke caught deidara in genjutsus TWICE in their fight, i don’t think his countermeasures are good enough for madara haha. entertaining vid tho!
Plus Deidara is bad at close combat while Madara is well rounded so if Madara gets close he'd clap his cheeks and Deidara is useless without his detonating clay cuz he can't fight
Let's keep it 100. He pulls his 🥒 out and he flats out Grapes them rather it's a 2 on one or the whole entire group in general & there's not a dam thing they can do about! Simple & Plain !
I Think you should have taken orochimaru after the 4th Great War, with the zestu body and his knowledge about sennin mode
If it's all the Akatsukis against Madara, it's worth the end, Madara would lose badly.
dude you forget the izanami 💀, madara can't do anything about it
No way in hell itachi can set up izanami against Madara who knows even more about the sharingan
Why isnsasori always so underrated? He is more powerfull than half ofnthe akatsuki in ratings and can summon more than a hundred puppets. Als if sasori had made someone powerful to a puppet would be very cool, imagine sasori controlling a madara puppet
Why was wood style and rinnegan abilities not mentioned
1 vs 1 he wins for sure, but taking on all of em at once? No.
Remmeber that time Madara got hit by Temari while he was busy dealing with the Chunin army?
But here he'd be busy dealing with a bunch of Kage levels with deadly jutsu and abilities that can oneshot Madara.
Madara would lose 10/10 if he is to face all the Akatsuki at once.
Madara wouldn't need to use Izanagi against Itachi's Amaterasu. Madara would just dodge it or even use another moves to counter it.
What version of Madara are we talking about? He was an old man when he unlocked the Rinnegan. Plus he forgot that Itachi had Shusi’s eye 👁️ & only gave it to Naruto before he fought Sasuke. A healthy Itachi with Shusi’s eye vs Madara with no Rinnegan would be in Itachi’s favor. Both know Izuami.. but Itachi is very analytical
Let’s do madara v. Akatsuki … but we are also going to give them buffs and plot armor to help. Come onnnnnn. The only member who gives him difficulty is pain, itachi and orochemaru
What are you going on about the only one that has a chance is maybe itachi even then probably not. They all get swept Madara is him
Lmao Obito is the only threat to Madara Madara and Obito dog walks itachi
@@Grim-c1d itachi without illness is madara level show me your proof im wrong
@@bradleeLang itachi without sickness is not madaras level not at all without sickness Itachi is on Obito level at best
@@bradleeLangAre we reading the same series? Reanimated Itachi is DEFINITELY the strongest version of Itachi, Even moreso than an alive Itachi without illnesses. How is a guy who was more or less relative to SM Kabuto (I say more or less because it was a 2v1 with Sasuke and Itachi saving each other at one point in time.) Like, what? And yes, I know Itachi wasn’t trying to kill him, but he wasn’t heavily outscaling Kabuto either way in a whole 2v1. Even Sasuke was confirmed to surpass Itachi in terms of ocular powers during the war, but Madara with his own feats heavily outscaled Sasuke in that front. What are you smoking?
I feel madara fighting all akatsuki will be a very tough match considering u have someone like itachi its a pity they never gave him eternal mangekyo cause i feel he should have gotten it when he killed his entire village
Konon above itachi is crazy work
10:55 - so are we just going to ignore the fact that even though Deidara did say he developed countermeasures for sharingan genjutsu, Sasuke was still able to get him with it more than once in their fight. And Sasuke only had the base sharingan. Madara here has EMS which would be far more potent.
for deidara's turn, yasaka beads/magatama exists, its like a shuriken that susano'o can shoot out
and since madara can literally use susano'o without his eye, using susano'o on thee tomoe to snipe deidara wont be a problem, esp since yasaka beads can home(?)
How exactly is Madara pressured into perfect susanoo by jinchuriki? Considering he slapped the same tailed beasts while blind and supposedly weaker (in his edo form)
1 min for obito 1 min for ittachi 30 sec for Nagato 30 sec for konan and 1 min for others is equal to 4 min
Imagine thinking Itachi can beat Madara :x
ik is strange i don't belive to even i like itachi .... but this statement are Kishi mistake .... don't get me wrong but ....
Orochimaru leave akatsuki beacose " ITACHI WAS WAY MORE POWERFULL THAN HIM " literally orochimaru told that word's exaclty like that to kabuto ..... ALL OF THIS WHILE HE WAS ALREADY IN AKATSUKI WITH PAIN !!!! .... " NOT GOING TO BELIVE THAT BEACOSE CHARACTER STATEMENT CUZ THESE STATEMENT ARE SHIT , NOBODY IN THAT SERIES ARE OMNISCIENT SO THEY WILL NOT BE EVEN CLOSE WITH THEIR STATEMENT SO I CHOOSE TO BELIVE ONLY THE PROOVED ONE "
Example of bad statement : (well this was over interpretated by ppl but)
The Original statement was : THERE ARE OTSUTSUKI STRONGER THAN KAGUYA ( AGREE BUT MOMOSHIKI EVEN FUSED ISN'T ONE OF THEM ) so Sasuke Claim if there will be other threat like Kaguya he will deal with that on his own , not he will beat kaguya if is needed but let's finish that ...
If they belive Sasuke SOLO Kaguya , that should mean He is Stronger than Her .... FAKE
TO SAY SASUKE SOLO KAGUYA IS LIKE YOU GOING TO SAY " SASUKE SOLO HAGOROMO&HAMURA AT THE SAME TIME " CUZ THEY FOUGHT 100% OF KAGUYA 3 MONTH , EVEN IF WE TALK ABOUTH THAT 50% OF KAGUYA .... THINKING 100% KAGUYA FOUGHT 3 MONTH HAGOROMO&HAMURA ..... 50% KAGUYA WIN AGAIST HAGOROMO OR HAMURA CUZ NO 6TH PATH CHIBAKU TENSEI ... WITH MAKE US TO CONCLUDE IS SASUKE SOLO HAGOROMO ??? That's the most ILOGICAL QUESTION EVER DONE .... REMEMBER HAGOROMO IN NARUTO SHIPPUDEN IS DEATH THAT MEAN HE IS NO LONGER 10 TAILS JKRK BUT HE STILL HAS THE STAFF MADE FROM TRUTH SEEKING ORB RINNE-SHARINGAN AND STUFF....
REMEMBER AGAIN DEATH HAGOROMO HAS ENOUGHT CHACKRA TO TRANSPORT ALL TAIL BEAST + NARUTO + SASUKE + SAKURA + DMS KAKASHI BACK TO THEIR DIMENSION ... WITCH IS WAY WAY MORE THAN 6 PORTAL OPEN FOR HIMSELF SASUKE DO TILL HE GET OUT OF CHACKRA
You are forgetting so many things like Madara have rinnegan to absorb any jutsu or have hashirama s sage mode to dodge anything also have wood style to catch flying opponents, can use tengai shinsei to over anyone or limbo to one shot anyone
I didn't forget anything, I said at the beginning of the video that this is living Madara before he gets all these abilities that you're talking about.
Nobody from the Akatsuki can beat Madara. 💯
Juubito dicks all versions of Madara, excluding Juubidara.
false obito could and nagato could as well if they were to go in completely serious an not let him use his full strength.
i wish i could include itachi at full health but sadly even he would struggle if alone he'd need help.
but obito knows all madara's tricks he even knew he had stuffed a makeshift control tag into his body which is why he made kakashi destroy it so he could defy madara's will.
an nagato at full health would annihilate both woodstyle and his susano the guy almost murdered two perfect jinchuriki all by himself for crying out loud lol and he was the only akatsuki to succeed in completely destroying the hidden leaf and nearly capturing nine tails without the need of a partner.
@@DeusGamezexactly. There is no scenario madara loses to Itachi. Itachi is a weaker version of Madara in every aspect. Video also forgot to mention that Itachi can only use 3 ms ability before being useless. Madara can uses 3 shadow clones to deal with Itachi with breaking a sweat
Near death Obito succeed to trick Six paths Madara and steal the bijuus inside the latter.
I think you over estimate the Akatsuki and underestimate Madara. I know your trying to high ball the Akatsuki...but Madara wasn't really worried about having to deal with 10 tails Obito. The rinnigan is his. He knows its abilities, and honestly none of them have the Chakra levels to outpace him. And even in edo form, Itachi doesn't have the Chakra levels to deal with Madara. Infinite chakra doesn't matter if the maximum amount is too weak to matter. I would literally move everyone down a spot except Oro which can stay in 3T.
i think that if madara doasnt know abt sasoris poison, he could have a chance with the sand, madara in war ark did let himself get hit by gaaras sand, but if madaras sharingan can see the poison, then its the end for sasori
Madara was not that strong. He just got that god plot armor buff 😂
Vs deidara... Itachi genjutsu'd him with ease, madara will destroy his brain with a genjutsu aswell
Deidara was only able to plant mines due to tobi tho
Also i doubt that Obito could just teleport into the Susanoo of Madara.
Even with the 7 Jinchuuriki Obito still wouldnt have a chance.
Madara should even be able to bring all the Bijuus and Pain Summonings under his control with his own Mangekyo.
Wait but this is the madara that fought hashirama right? So how is he using clones? In their era the only 2 capable of using clones that had physical properties are tobirama and hashirama, the clones we see madara use after his revival are wood clones since he now possess hashirama cells
Valley of the end Madara could also use Shadow Clones, check out chapter 681 where Black Zetsu states that.
Hi, was looking for music, but just popped in to say that zetsu takes the dub.
Alright t0x. Bow why does healthy itachi solo the verse please. 🙏🏾
You already know 😂 unironically Itachi video is coming out next tho
I never understood how edo Madara is considered weaker than his prime self (before he was rezzed). Because edo Madara has Rennigan. Has Hashirama cells plus unlimited chakra. He should be stronger than his prime self was. Since he didn’t unlock the Rennigan until he was super old. Now RESURRECTED PRIME MADARA yes would be stronger than his original prime self. Because of the reasons I just listed. This part never made sense. Hashi at the point of them being Edo shouldn’t be able to compare current Madara he’s seeing to his original prime self without Rennigan and Hashi cells.
Madara Limbo alone is problems for All of em...
What if madara s limbo use susano like whats the solution 😂
True but in this video we talk about Madara who didnt have Rinnegan yet.
He said madaras genjustsu wouldnt work on diedara but thats how itachi beat diedara
Itachi beating Deidara is the reason he trained his eye to counteract genjutsu in the first place
@@Ilgazzoo ok saskue genjustsu him and didn't diedara already have the eye thing when Itachi fought him I can't remember lol
@@Grim-c1d Deidara joined the Akatsuki after he lost to Itachi's genjutsu and losing to him made him hate Uchihas so he trained his eye to counteract the sharingan
Honestly no one aside war arc obito is pushing madara to use perfect susanoo,
-edo itachi will be stealmated by the full armored susanoo and run out of chackra (when talking about edos i just assume there is a dude from the alliance ready to seal the deal when the edo is restrained)
-pain will be wacked so bad its not even funny, sage naruto was trashing pain left and right, blind madara just kicked the shit out of him
Nagato gets wacked by madrass superior speed and regular susanoo
Holy Itachi glaze
You gave obito the the jinchuriki but didn’t give orochimaru edo tensi
Orichimaru got the best chance, he can use reanimation
Why do you think madara has to dodge amaterasu. Isn't it useless against chakra style cloaks? Like hiw naruto can just go to his mode stuff and remove the black flame from his body onto the chakra
Bro u forgot all of madaras abilities if madara can't reach deidara he can jsut drop a frikin asteroid on his head and u forgot his woodstyle he can use aswell he would blitz half the akatski with hashiramas wood style only.
prime nagato full mobility murks EMS madara FACTS
How does madara win vs obito base form? Can't he just be intangible and not get hit?
You showed death bed orochimaru and not when he fought hiruzen with tensei
Deidara didnt counter genjutsu HE GOT CAUGHT LIKE 2 times in it against saskue
it feels wrong that madaras only win conditions against itachi are outlasting and izanagi
Well, 3-tomoe Madara's. If he's allowed to use Susano'o, it's a different story as said
@@t0xeus_ yeah okay, i think with his ems its also an absolute quick fight
My ultimate is ready
Let's be realistic, if Orochimaru had to fight Madara, no way is he not using the reanimation jutsu to summon Hashirama and Tobirama😂
But then again I see why you chose not to include that scenario in this video
Tobi and Itachi are enough
You guys really underrated Madara you thinking itach can win against Madara who rival's hashirama in power in insane
Bros answer to everything is Madara running around and “outlasting” them. Or Perfect Susano and one slashing them 😂 Here’s the real way it goes, healthy Itachi and Nagato pushes Madara to his limits. Stop wanking Madara lol.
We all know Zetsu solos Madara
Itachi with knowledge and Healt
It all over .
i like itachi and he is a genius but with madara thats gunna be a no deal, madara knows way too much about the uchiha an its secrets it the whole reason why he was able to evolve his eternal eyes into that of the rinnegan.
the only hand itachi could play to win is shisui's genjutsu as that overwrites a person's free agency/will
everything else madara has witnessed/used at some point in the uchiha's history there is a reason why kuro-zetsu(kaguya's will) went to great lengths to revive him he was THE strongest uchiha and incarnation of indra that he ever witnessed/partnered with.
madara solo akatsuki but he cant solo sannin
remember akatsuki doesnt have teamwork unlike sanin
I still don't understand why there are so many people who can't understand the logic that there is one and only one ninja team that kishimoto has put forward^^
it's the sannin together: 3 legendary ninja
it's not just a title to make nice, kishimoto gave them this name because it is the most complete ninja team
we never had the opportunity to see them fighting together in the manga at their prime but it is obvious that it is well beyond what we imagine.
we know very well that team work was introduced as the main factor in the narutoverse , even 2 random ninja from the root as a team were abble to put a quite nice resistance against obito
and now we have a team of 3 ninja famous for that team work ..
even orochimaru, as arrogant as he is, said that adding a medical ninja to a team of 3 ninja changed the face of war and the rules of the ninja world^^
and the first to have included this principle are precisely the sannin
tsunade medical ninja almost immortal and high strengh
orochimaru almost immortal with extrem defense/resistance
jiraiya extrem offensive move and versatility
all those 3 together are considered as the ultimate team ninja
sannin wins very easily against trash madara
even in 2024 I don't understand why so many people on youtube ignore manga fact^^
iam on youtube seeing naruto/sannin videos since 2005, it was kind and serious. now its just garbage. garbage youtube moderator need to do their work to restore the old serious youtube that respect sannin
They get fodderized
Madara folded 5 kage at once combined 💀
With nerf body 💀💀💀💀💀
Hidan can be killed if he just makes sure he can't fight back the immortality justu will stop because he's not getting blood
Random deidara glaze wtf 😭 he survives c4 and c0
Akatsuki slap neg diff, itachi alone is more than enough
There's a serious problem here. Against Pain or White Mask Obito, Madara will try to grab his Rinnegan and implant it on himself. All he has to do is to touch Obito while he is tangible, and against Pain he just needs to track down Nagato. Then alive Madara gets 1 to 2 Rinnegan 💀
Doesnt work like that.
@@Juulkageworked on kakashi
Oro haves Edo tensei he is a long distance character bro
Bro Madara has wood style he just keep talking about his fire style is Dan what about modern weapon we just going to forget that too
It's living VotE Madara before he gets Hashirama's powers.
The only one Madara is losing to is itachi
Obito orange mask better than itachi uchiha even on edotensei.....obito have brave enough to fight kabuto in sage mode ....with 5 akatsuki's edotensei until he open madara uchiha....
I’ve never seen an Akatsuki video that accurately describes Kakuzu. Homie is strong as balls. His fight against Team 10 and Kakashi was after he sealed not one, but TWO tailed beasts at the same time. He hadn’t eaten or drank anything in days, was very low on chakra, sleep deprived, AND had to fight not one, not two, but 3 ninjas at the same time AND STILL WON WILL FEW ISSUES (he only lost one heart to a surprise lightning attack from Kakashi).
After all of the above, 2 more ninja show up, one a wood style user and the other the main character lol. THEY STILL LOST (Naruto failed and Yamato had to save him). Finally it took one direct impact from an S rank Jutsu that a Kage would later forbid him from usage due the destruction. AND HE WAS STILL ALIVE. The only reason he couldn’t keep fighting is because Rasenshuriken attacks cells. But Kakashi had to deal a final blow to ensure he died.
JESUS CHRAIST. He’s also the ONLY known ninja to survive the first 3 great shinobi wars, a feat neither Madara nor Hashirama has. He also survived a fight against Hashirama himself (YES, I understand we don’t know the degree. But the whole point of this reference was that he survived because he was strong enough to, which again is a Madara level feat). I’d like to believe Kakuzu was second to Pain, MAYBE third to Pain and Itachi. But thinking not even Itachi could do much unless using Totsuka blade or a lucky Amaterasu shot.
Don’t forget Kakuzu’s hands can travel through the ground, the one weak spot of Susano’o.
I believe Kakuzu pushes Madara to perfect Susano’o. Madara doesn’t posses any strong Lightning style skills, which is the only Jutsu we saw defeat Kakuzu’s earth heart. Kakuzu has both insane stamina, speed, and chakra levels (he was spamming A-S rank ninjutsu from 4 different hearts at the same time after dealing two tailed beasts…). Regular Susano’o can be countered with his separating hands. Idk how genjutsu would go considering Kakuzu’s hearts are somewhat sentient. Perfect Susano’o is Madara’s best shot.
All this writing and you're completely off lol..no offense
Kakuzu got one tapped by base fatigued Naruto's rasenshuriken
Bro forgot that Zetsu would solo Madara with his shadow binding spell.
w takes
Every jutsu has a weakness.....i don't care what ya'll think, itachi could win
You underestimate madara
Madara be like: Really dudes...That's all you got?🤦
Sage jutsu increases speed and strength so how is he weaker the alive madara
Obito orange mask better than itachi...even edotensei nagato .....he have brave to fight kabuto when kabuto offer to him become the alliance but obito refuse and choose to fight them all until kabuto open madara box
he was pretty much forced to fight kabuto there. kabuto was literally at the hideout where the gedo statue was.
Nagito would be even match or probably beat him of he's not at 100 percent
Wait never mind this is just madara downplay
Madara with Susanoo doesnt even need to dodge the Totsuka Blade cuz it wouldnt be able to penetrate V4 or Perfect Susanoo anyway.
Says who?
@@hectorsaucedo8640 Everyone who can see the obvious difference in their power and size.