Which model bags were you using for the Street Triple please? I’m using the Sys Bags on my Multistrada but am planning to add a 2023 STriple to the garage soon. Thank you.
Thanks for including your experience with using the adapter. I've been eyeing these bags particularly because the adapter plate to make switching between hard and soft cases easy. I already have the Trax cases for touring or running errands in town. Being able to quickly clip on soft bags to hit up trails for a weekend of camping seems like these will be the right choice for me.
Great kit.. A carrying strap would make lugging the bag to the hotel room easier, especially if management puts her full kit allocation in! I usually carry everything to the room and it makes a difference to me. Safe, happy travels 👍
One tip. Don't over-tighten the plastic catches on the mounting plate. It's easy to tear through the plastic housing that the nut sits in. The instruction say to use only 3nm torque but who has that small a torque wrench?
Very nice, comprehensive review. I’m deciding whether to go with these or a hard case for my BMW G650GS. The one issue I’m struggling with is protection for anything fragile - a camera, for example - in the event of a drop with a soft pannier. Maybe the answer would be to keep any small, fragile items in a tank bag or top case. I really like the look and versatility of these bags. Thanks!
If this helps: I use a pair of water proof soft panniers from Givi, GRT709, have lasted couple of thousand kms, minus Givi’s finicky lock system. (Defn. SW Motech makes amazing stuff) plus a BMW vario top box hard case - it’s made of heavy heavy heavy fibre - on my 1200 GS. Have served perfect for month long trips. Aluminium might be lighter than the vario IMO.
Adding to your point of dropping the soft pannier, it saved me on two accidents by taking the impact (than passing it). I put the bags back on with ROK straps, (they were torn and fixed later) and rode away. If I were on a hard case, the hits would have knocked me off the road. And made the boxed unusable thereafter. Soft bags saved me, twice. I have patted my back so many times of this right choice. This is in india, where there are no rules to be followed by the “other” side. Just my two cents to you dilemma.
Good Question. So they offer more capacity and the ability to clip on and off, they are also lighter. I would say the Kriega OS is more robust maybe for back country riding, and theres the ability to fix other items from the range to them easier, plus they have the removeable whie liner.
I have the the SW-MOTECH Sysbags in the 15 and 30, and had high hopes for the WP. I got tired of waiting and waiting and waiting for their release and ended up going with Mosko Moto, and glad I did. Making the the mounting plates separate and the goofy molle panels on the outside (why!?) made me really happy that I went with a proper off road set up.
With separate mounting plates you can choose to use the ‘clip on clip off’ function with the SW-Motech racks, or fix to other racks using the straps, seems like a sensible option.
@@mancavemoto What he meant is that it is a headscratching design decision to put the Molle on the outside of the bags. These are offroad oriented bags, already wide since they are mounted on a rack. I would much rather have some Molle on the front and back. Because now, if you attach some extra's to the Molle, the bag gets even wider. Not a good idea offroad. I would much rather have some Molle front and back to hang some extra's. I already emailed them about this, got some vague answer.
Hi Tony, I see you've done a review on the Kriega OS and thes sybags. Of the two systems, which would you prefer? I'm looking for a new soft luggage system for my new Transalp and I'll probably run the pro side carriers from SW-Motech. Thanks in advance for some inside info. KR Ruben
Hi, both are good in different ways, the Kriega are rugged but heavier and slower to take off. The fact that the sysbags clip off easily is a real bonus. I’ve seen the sysbags used on a Transalp (check out my Munster vales videos) and they work well. Better than on the Africa Twin actually
Great review, I’ve been looking at these since I bought the city bag last year. I’d like to see a picture of everything laid out that you were able to fit in the bags when you went on your big trip. I’m curious how much the combo will fit. 👍
With up to 80 litres across both bags, you can get ahell of a lot og stuff in! I packed for 10 days on the road including laptop, drone camera gear etc with room to spare
Hi. I’m running the Sys Bag (L) with the Steelcore cable. My question is for high exhaust ADVs like AT / GS 1250 etc, if you use the bags mounted with plate on SWM Evo Rack and lock it using Steelcore - the Steelcore would run pretty close to the exhaust. Any risk from damaging or burning the Steelcore cable in such a setup? I noticed that the SWM rack runs reasonably close to these exhausts. Thank you.
Hi. I am considering to purchase a bag like yours, M size. Just a quick question: Are they also weather resistant ? I have been using the SW-Motech LC3 bags and they just cannot seem to last; the latest bag I have got only lasted barely more than 3 years. I am looking to change to something that can at least last 5-10 years or more, then i stumble upon this product. Admittedly, I just wont remove my bag from the bike at all and justleave them in the sun/rain (place does not have a garage, I just leave the bike outdoors). Any tips would be great. Thanks have a good day. :)
Great bags... and id buy in a heartbeat....BUT....with my exhaust location, makes for an extremely wide back end. Too bad, otherwise they look like great quality as usual by SW-M
I still have the Kreiga and they are great bags. The OS are tough and I like the white lining, but they are more fiddly to put on and take off compared to the snap on of the SW-Motech. The Kriega are a little more compact too, but perhaps a touch heavier. Hope that helps
The plate on the Kriega system is fixed to the side carrier, but im sure theres a converter out there, or it would be quite easy to fir the two together.
Sw-motech suggest 10kg for the large bag, but I probably went over that! They hold their shape well, and you can use the side straps to pull everything nice and tight
@@mancavemoto . Sorry , I should have been more specific. I was thinking of the OS and backplate and how it compared to this SW Motech and it's backplate .
Nice bags....but who in the hell thought molle panel on the outboard side was a good idea? What a stupid concept...first who would want to strap an accessory on the outside like that so that it can get snagged. Second; if you go down those molles are just going to catch and gather dirt and crud and eventually tear.
Great review. Just fitted a pair of the small size to my Ducati Scrambler FT. All I needed for a 5 day ride though not rain tested yet. Great quality and picking will last well.
I had SW Motech luggage on my Street Triple and was very happy with them. That company makes really good products.
I’ve not had a bad experience with any of their kit yet 👍
Which model bags were you using for the Street Triple please? I’m using the Sys Bags on my Multistrada but am planning to add a 2023 STriple to the garage soon. Thank you.
Thanks for including your experience with using the adapter. I've been eyeing these bags particularly because the adapter plate to make switching between hard and soft cases easy. I already have the Trax cases for touring or running errands in town. Being able to quickly clip on soft bags to hit up trails for a weekend of camping seems like these will be the right choice for me.
Glad it was helpful!
After your test I purchased for my KTM 1290 SAS, it seems very fine for the roadtrip, I will purchasse "secure cable".
Good info, they look like sturdy pieces of kit & glad they served you well on your tour 😀
Yes, thanks
Great kit..
A carrying strap would make lugging the bag to the hotel room easier, especially if management puts her full kit allocation in! I usually carry everything to the room and it makes a difference to me.
Safe, happy travels 👍
Yep, good point
Well presented Tony! Gosh, that memorable trip in Europe will always live on⭐️
It sure will, and more to come
This looks like a good system. You certainly gave them a thorough test on that trip.
I think so too!
Great video, the most informative video out there on these bags. Thank you for making it 👏🏻👏🏻
Glad it was helpful!
One tip. Don't over-tighten the plastic catches on the mounting plate. It's easy to tear through the plastic housing that the nut sits in. The instruction say to use only 3nm torque but who has that small a torque wrench?
Great timing! I am looking into a luggage system and these are currently top of my list.
Glad it was helpful!
Very nice, comprehensive review. I’m deciding whether to go with these or a hard case for my BMW G650GS. The one issue I’m struggling with is protection for anything fragile - a camera, for example - in the event of a drop with a soft pannier. Maybe the answer would be to keep any small, fragile items in a tank bag or top case. I really like the look and versatility of these bags. Thanks!
If this helps: I use a pair of water proof soft panniers from Givi, GRT709, have lasted couple of thousand kms, minus Givi’s finicky lock system. (Defn. SW Motech makes amazing stuff) plus a BMW vario top box hard case - it’s made of heavy heavy heavy fibre - on my 1200 GS. Have served perfect for month long trips. Aluminium might be lighter than the vario IMO.
Adding to your point of dropping the soft pannier, it saved me on two accidents by taking the impact (than passing it). I put the bags back on with ROK straps, (they were torn and fixed later) and rode away. If I were on a hard case, the hits would have knocked me off the road. And made the boxed unusable thereafter. Soft bags saved me, twice. I have patted my back so many times of this right choice. This is in india, where there are no rules to be followed by the “other” side. Just my two cents to you dilemma.
thanks for the review
No problem!
Big fan of soft/semi soft luggage, great to see removable rack I think its very practical, cheers V!
It really is! Cheers V thanks for watching
Good review. Thanks
Thanks for watching!
Another great review! Been waiting for a review of this system. How does it compare to the os platform and bags by kreiga?
Good Question. So they offer more capacity and the ability to clip on and off, they are also lighter. I would say the Kriega OS is more robust maybe for back country riding, and theres the ability to fix other items from the range to them easier, plus they have the removeable whie liner.
I have the the SW-MOTECH Sysbags in the 15 and 30, and had high hopes for the WP. I got tired of waiting and waiting and waiting for their release and ended up going with Mosko Moto, and glad I did. Making the the mounting plates separate and the goofy molle panels on the outside (why!?) made me really happy that I went with a proper off road set up.
With separate mounting plates you can choose to use the ‘clip on clip off’ function with the SW-Motech racks, or fix to other racks using the straps, seems like a sensible option.
@@mancavemoto I was really disappointed that the plates from my Sysbags couldn’t be reused, as they add a significant cost.
Great review on them!
@@mancavemoto What he meant is that it is a headscratching design decision to put the Molle on the outside of the bags. These are offroad oriented bags, already wide since they are mounted on a rack. I would much rather have some Molle on the front and back. Because now, if you attach some extra's to the Molle, the bag gets even wider. Not a good idea offroad. I would much rather have some Molle front and back to hang some extra's. I already emailed them about this, got some vague answer.
9:02 do you think these would be suitable on a yamaha YZF R3 2024 the website says yes but i'm curious to know you'r opinion?
Yes they should work, it might be worth looking at the blaze pro too?
Hi Tony, I see you've done a review on the Kriega OS and thes sybags. Of the two systems, which would you prefer? I'm looking for a new soft luggage system for my new Transalp and I'll probably run the pro side carriers from SW-Motech. Thanks in advance for some inside info. KR Ruben
Hi, both are good in different ways, the Kriega are rugged but heavier and slower to take off. The fact that the sysbags clip off easily is a real bonus. I’ve seen the sysbags used on a Transalp (check out my Munster vales videos) and they work well. Better than on the Africa Twin actually
I think I would get medium size for side bags and compliment it wit ha very large on the back.
Great review, I’ve been looking at these since I bought the city bag last year. I’d like to see a picture of everything laid out that you were able to fit in the bags when you went on your big trip. I’m curious how much the combo will fit. 👍
With up to 80 litres across both bags, you can get ahell of a lot og stuff in! I packed for 10 days on the road including laptop, drone camera gear etc with room to spare
Great review. Where does one obtain the lock for the racks?
Thanks, You can buy them from SW-Motech
Hi. I’m running the Sys Bag (L) with the Steelcore cable. My question is for high exhaust ADVs like AT / GS 1250 etc, if you use the bags mounted with plate on SWM Evo Rack and lock it using Steelcore - the Steelcore would run pretty close to the exhaust. Any risk from damaging or burning the Steelcore cable in such a setup? I noticed that the SWM rack runs reasonably close to these exhausts. Thank you.
If its not touching it should be good, but then even saying that the can itself shouldnt get hot enough the effect the strap.
@@mancavemoto Thank you. The video was a nice watch too - even to see as an existing owner of this setup. Cheers.
Hi Cave, can you tell me where I can purchase these steel core?
Sure, I bought mine directly from the Kriega website.
hmm, now i have three choices, kriega-moskomoto-swmotech
🙌🏻
Hi. I am considering to purchase a bag like yours, M size. Just a quick question: Are they also weather resistant ? I have been using the SW-Motech LC3 bags and they just cannot seem to last; the latest bag I have got only lasted barely more than 3 years. I am looking to change to something that can at least last 5-10 years or more, then i stumble upon this product. Admittedly, I just wont remove my bag from the bike at all and justleave them in the sun/rain (place does not have a garage, I just leave the bike outdoors). Any tips would be great. Thanks have a good day. :)
It looks and feels like it will be pretty tough.
Get at least a motor cover, will make your bags and bike last longer
Great bags... and id buy in a heartbeat....BUT....with my exhaust location, makes for an extremely wide back end. Too bad, otherwise they look like great quality as usual by SW-M
I have the same issue with the Africa Twin, so I carry the least amount if stuff I need and 'cinch' in the bags so they are as thin as possible!
How do you think these bags compare to the Kriega system you have owned? I’m trying to decide between the two. Thanks.
I still have the Kreiga and they are great bags. The OS are tough and I like the white lining, but they are more fiddly to put on and take off compared to the snap on of the SW-Motech. The Kriega are a little more compact too, but perhaps a touch heavier. Hope that helps
@@mancavemoto I wonder if it would be possible to attach the SWMotech quick release latches to the Kriega plate? Best of both worlds.
Or modify the SW plate to take the Kriega straps.
The plate on the Kriega system is fixed to the side carrier, but im sure theres a converter out there, or it would be quite easy to fir the two together.
nice review thanks. please let us know where you buy these security straps?
You can get them here kriega.com/adventure/steelcore-security-strap
These look great. What sort of weight can they carry? E.g. if you had a couple bottles of wine and 6 pack of bands. Would it slump?
Sw-motech suggest 10kg for the large bag, but I probably went over that! They hold their shape well, and you can use the side straps to pull everything nice and tight
@@mancavemoto Sounds great. Thanks! It's impossible to get hands-on for these sorts of products where I live so this sort of advice is really useful.
Would the large bags get in the way of passenger legs?
no they sit back just enough to work for a pillion
Great review, thank you .
How does it rate against Kriega ?
Kriega OS or US? It kind of sits in between I guess
@@mancavemoto . Sorry , I should have been more specific.
I was thinking of the OS and backplate and how it compared to this SW Motech and it's backplate .
How do they compare to Givi equivalent?
I've not used the Givi, so can't offer a comparsion for you
Is there a way of folding the inner bag so that it sits neat like it was straight from the factory? lol. I can't make it sit neat.
Practice and patience 😉😂
@@mancavemoto Practice yes. Found that you gotta get the air out of the bag first. It seals pretty well!
Whats the music at 4 minutes please ?.
Its 'Neon Lights Neon Dreams' by Forever Sunset
@@mancavemoto Thanks mate .
They look very boxy and big. Not sure I would like to ride with those in a very strong crosswind.
@@mancavemoto Compared to something that's not as boxy or big, like a 30 litre tailbag.
Nice bags....but who in the hell thought molle panel on the outboard side was a good idea? What a stupid concept...first who would want to strap an accessory on the outside like that so that it can get snagged. Second; if you go down those molles are just going to catch and gather dirt and crud and eventually tear.
we want to see bikes not weird reviews for crappy luggage boxes
Plenty of bike reviews on the channel….
I guess I’m not a part of “We”. Reviews if bike related gear has steered me in the right direction on numerous occasions.
"We" want to read inciteful comments relevant to the post that has taken someone time and effort for you to watch gratis , not whiny drivel !
Great review. Just fitted a pair of the small size to my Ducati Scrambler FT. All I needed for a 5 day ride though not rain tested yet. Great quality and picking will last well.