Mosko Moto Backcountry 35L Panniers (bags) vs. Lone Rider Motobags
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Which you would choose and why... let us know in the comments below.
How does Lone Rider stack up against Mosko Moto is a question I have been asked a lot this season. The other question why I switched from Mosko backcountry 35L Panniers to the Lone Rider Motobags. In this video we discuss the similarities and differences of the two.
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here i am, watching reviews about some sophisticated luggage systems, knowing full well that i , next time i go on a tour, am just going to strap a backpack to my passengers seat again
That's what I used to do but you've got high weight that's mostly behind the centerline of the rear wheels.
Moving from Los Angeles to Dallas on my bike I packed a travel bag placed crosswise on the backseat, a hiking backpack upright on the luggage rack but strapped to the travel bag. and a backpack for my laptop and some smaller items. What a terrible setup. I left work early to get to the bike store and I bought some throwover Nelson Rigg panniers that were only $50 and they made such a difference in my bikes handling. I wasn't touring a lot so that's what I used. Then I started touring a lot.
That necessitated a better set up. (The bags would sag into my wheels depending on how that were loaded (I strung a wire from my rear rack to my pegs to keep the bags from trying to occupy the same space as my wheel.) they'd shift, etc.) I bought a used rack and hard bags from an inmate on advrider dot com and that's been my setup since.
Worth the upgrade over a backpack.
🤣🤣🤣 same here..
@Choose A New Name $600? Try $1100-1200.
Lost the left one of my original BMW plastic paneer at 40miles/h, don’t ask why, it crashed into a hard shoulder and a car bumped it back to me. Car took off, fairly damaged in the front. Not only my paneer is still ok and in permanent use but also looks much better now
I would love to spend 1200 plus mounts for the mosco bags instead ive been using nelson rigg bags $200 made my own mounts two years old still water proof 500 mile offroad in death valley including one fall on Mengle pass in the big boulders if you have never rode DV over a thousand miles of dirt roads
The two of you need to do more videos together. The banter of old friends cannot be beat.
Agreed. I especially enjoyed thay.
@@marksman303 2222²²²
Lock system is useless when you can remove the entire system with just a screwdriver 😂
To true... They do sell a bolt through option or a lock option.
I'd guess most opportunistic thieves would not know about the 1/4 turn fasteners, but point taken.
I've just watched a review on the latest LoneRider bags, and the bags are properly bolted to the plates, which are then locked to the bike as Paul explained. The video is on their website.
the point is to stop opportunist thieves ... whos just walking by duh, use your brain
I've never seen a comparison test, based on the "Anything you can do, I can do better" theme. Original, effective, and just plain fun. Well done.
I chose the LoneRider because I didn't like the look of the backing plate that is left on the bike when the Mosko bags are removed. When the LoneRider quick release comes out, there will be no need for a backing plate to remain on the bike. Also, who wants to drag a wet muddy bag into their tent or hotel room. Just remove the clean dry inner waterproof bag and go on your way.
The dry bags look like a pain to stuff back into the shell liner.
6 or 7 “sets” of bags ( yes- BAGS ! ) cost as much as new Tenere 700.
How pathetic is that ;)
Oh yes, sure, we travelled the world, dedicated so many hours to RnD and lots of 10 bucks a sq meter nylon!
And yes, those engineers and marketeers at yamaha, triumph, bmw, ktm are just loosers ✌️
It's crazy to think about isn't it... For the price of my rims, suspension and bags I could part a Tenere 700 next to the GS and have a far better bike for anything dirty
I love the dueling banjos review of these products. Y’all are the Smothers Brothers of bike reviews!
Too late, Mosko Reckless it is. I'm waiting for the season to try it, it looks very small for specified volume :-( 70+ liter were enough for my trekking backpack for many years, and 75+ liters of moto luggage looks like I never will be possible to pack my equipment. It is strange!
Sorry Brett love your stuff...couldn’t get past 5 min. That’s how long this should have been....tone and humor not withstanding. Thanks for all you do
It's fun to try different stuff and I try not to be a "review" guy. I get it...
I loved the intro. I re-watched it an undisclosed number of times.
The rest of the video was good too.
That intro... it hurts...
On one hand, I totally agree, and I cringed when I saw it, but at the same time one could argue that the bikes have been designed and modified(added crash bars) to withstand just that sort of abuse. And I think it was a brilliant demonstration in hindsight that got their point across about the luggage withstanding some egregious abuse.
I use the Nelson Rigg system, which is a lot like the Lone Rider, plus it has a lifetime guarantee.
Great video gents. Buuuuuuttt, I bought Nelson Rigg Sierra and am LOVING THEM for less than $175. They're waterproof and that's without the liner! I have the liners tossed in there and use them for grocery runs as they charge for bags here in Seattle. I just hand them off to the sacker and Viola! I lower each easily down into the panniers and then bring them right to the kitchen counter when I get home. Oh, and the Nelson Rigg panniers are about 5 pounds per side and yours are the same weight as the hard panniers. I rest my case.
U guys should try ENDURISTAN bags! Amazing products.
Lyndon Poskitt style
Enduristan is just one layer. In a big crush you can say goodbye to the bag. Also mounting system is not as good as these ones. Enduristan is not bad but not top.
@@Jotx Enduristan has awesome tank bags and dry bags. But for saddle bags hm I would go for the ahhhhexpensive Mosko
@@Jotx sorry but enduristan are not one layer but 3 layers: waterproof red inside layer, middle 1000D in nylon for protection of tear and scratches, external PVC layer for another external protection. When you see the last crash Lyndon had, you can trust the product. On he other hand I saw some Mosko moto bags that didn’t hold on crash as expected...
@@MrPaulo1400 Remember, all crashes are not created equally, so its almost impossible to try and compare.
I've had the Mosko Moto Reckless 40L for a while and I love it. I'd absolutely buy it again.
Mosko all the way baby! Bought mine 4 years ago, most guys in my group have switched to Mosko as well.
Noooo!!!, Poor bikes, do not try like that, thosen Queens!
Both are great, but i like the lone rider more.
Amazing video, Thanks again Bret. Keep the Duo of you two going with other videos. I love my Mosko panniers, and this confirmed I made the right choice.
I know Tusk doesn't seem to get interest from BMW, and large ADV bike riders, but I really wish Bret could get a hold of their line up, because lets be honest, there stuff is more than 50% cheaper and I can't imagine it is 50% of the quality. I would guess they are 75% as good of quality. TEST SOME TUSK LUGGAGE!
Crappy audio in the beginning, but the intro makes up for that 🤣🤣🤣🤣
31liter+38liter=70liter? Okay now I understand your previous president lost the election because of fraud.🙄
Great vid, love the bantering, F800GS>R12xxGS
Close enough...
Whats your opinion on horseshoe panniers? Pavlin from Motorcycle Adventures seems to love them.
Time stamp 3:20. Sold! Lol. Quick release for the win
Nice comparison! I use a lot of mosko staff including 35L backcountry panniers. All is good except for ugly wedges that stand out 90% of riding time when I do not use panniers. I wish they had easily removable buckles.
The Kriega OS series seemed like the best bang for the buck for me. I like the semi rigid bags that are modular.
I wish my January was so green. :(
Take a look at Bumot.....
I have the Bumot bags on my Super Tenere' and love them.
Oh yeah? Well I have the Altrider bags, actually they are not that great, Ok but not great. I will get the Mosko Bags for sure next time. I love your final comments by the way, attitude really does matter.
Amazing video. Well, you better try the Enduristan Monsoon Evo. They weight about 2.5 kg on each side, the cost less they are super super super durable and 100% waterproof, no need for inner bag. They also have a quick release system.
Hi guys great content as ever. I got the Lone Rider bags, I’m waiting for the quick release system to come. The bags are made of Hypalon, which is incredibly tough, and the bags are collapsable when you take out the inserts.
Yep. Hypalon is what they use to build white water rafts.
Mosko Moto, but reckless please.... 👍🏽
I really enjoyed the comparison, thanks guys! But at the end, who has the biggest? 😜
LOVED that intro!!
Soft panniers with space left in them (not full), does hinder the bikes fall less.
Hindering the bikes fall if often a good thing. The odds is very much for the leg being in front of the panniers, so a hard one can actually save the leg from being squeezed/crushed.
A very full soft pannier also protects, but... All in all, I think you are to categoric. You seldomly know exactly what kind of accident you’re going to face when dropping the bike. Often hard panniers protects your legs, rather than being a threat! It depends, and it depends on so many things...
I use both soft and hard panniers, depending on the trip. And actually, if I can see an advantage that is really significant with the hard panniers, it is on very long runs (say >10000 km rides) where you need to (or wanna...☺️) bring a lot if stuff, including things that needs protection. Also - they are great dinner chairs and tables! 😆
Motorbag looks too strong.
You two are having so much fun.
I'm glad to be your best channel friend.
Have a nice Wednesday.
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07:17 still laughing : ) Very nice and very informative video! Thanks guys!
More dancing!
I'm planning on getting GIANTLOOP around the world bags with quickmounts that lock to racks.
The nice thing about the GL is they are very light in comparison to these. The LR are very heavy for a soft style pannier.
@@BretTkacs thanks for the support! Like your vids.
I have them too and I can really recommend them. I chose them over the Moskos because by the time of buying the new Gen 2 bags weren't available in their european store yet and the RTWs were also a few hundreds more affordable. My only problem with the RTW is that they trap water in the pockets on the side. So better get dry bags for the side pockets as well.
I’ve got the offset backcountry Mosko panniers and they are simply the best investment I’ve ever made for my Africa Twin. The quick disconnect is seriously one of the best features.
I smiled with the double entendre and laugh went Bret said eh eh eh ;oD Nice comic duo, guys. :)
Great video. I would love to hear your thoughts on the Round The World Panniers from Giant Loop :)
went all the way south from Europe to South Africa with the Mosko's, very happy with em. Even left them outside over night with the security straps mounted. Now i have this nice Souvenir, the red dust/dirt/mud is very persistent
Hola, podrías activar subtítulos en Español ? Muchas gracias
I have moscos ... 35L and 25 L but they are expandable to an add 18 L I believe...also I have a cable and a padlock that both locks bags to bike as well as contents in bag ... Win Win ... love them
I had the reckless 80 in my opinion the best you can put on a bike.
Just bought mine this winter. I can't wait to test them out in a couple months.
Loved the vid guys, grinning ear to ear hearing about the on trail clips! I've seen what the skydio can do and man it's wicked. Can't wait to see one of my favorite riders use it!
Great video, very funny and informative. This show gave me the most information, best on the tube. Cheers
Glad you enjoyed it
I’ve had both Mosko and Lone Rider on Adventure bikes, and they’re both good, the Mosko are incredibly tough, they actually require a bit of break in time.
But they’re too big for lightweight Adventure. For lightweight ADV I think the Kriega OS-18 is a great enduro style system, with an Ortlieb roll top across the seat between them if you need extra.
is mosko too big for CB500X
This comparison I've waiting & just thinking for. Now I can make my decision wisely. Mosko no doubt!
It's like you could read my mind... I'm looking for new panniers and can't decide between MoskoMoto and LoneRider. This comparison is brilliant! Thanks lads!
As usual, great timing...planning on getting soft bags to supplement the hard ones that came on the bike..looking forward to the drone use as I’m considering getting one👍
I went with the Lone Rider bags. Fretting over the cost when we're paying $20K or so for a bike seems silly. I chose these because I like the semi-rigid aspect. The lack of a quick release is a downside, but since you can just take the interior bag with you, it doesn't really matter. The only reason I like removing the bags is for offroading, not to take them into a hotel or something. And they're working on a quick release. I also prefer the material, which I believe is the same stuff that life rafts are made from but I could be wrong. What finally sold me was a video out there of someone pushing a bike with the bags off the back of a truck and dragging it down a road. There was almost no damage to the bag.
Agree 100%, I did the same.
They ship with a QR now but would you trust a first gen design???? Wait for them to fine tune it.
One of the best videos ever!!!! Had me rollin this morning while having my coffee!!! Great Review!
Mosko Moto for life.
I use the latest Mosko Moto bags, which include two main new features: (1) an aluminium security bar on the roll-top side of the panniers, and (2) a spring-loaded locking tab on the back side of the panniers which slots into the rugged pannier rack slide-mounts. Both of these are lockable and protect against arbitrarily removing the panniers from the bike and the contents from the panniers themselves. I use the aluminium bar in conjunction with a lockable steel braided security strap (also supplied by Mosko Moto) ... essential here in South Africa. I’m totally happy with my Mosko Moto purchase!
Mosko Moto for the win
+1 for Mosko
Really nice video. Good job. Funny and informative.
Mosko wins.
And now tusk has jumped into this market, should get interesting
Great video. I have both and they are excellent systems for the reasons you mentioned. Both extremely durable, fallproof, and convenient. I wouldn't go back to aluminum panniers after using them. The molle system alone makes things that need to be accessible always available for use - water, fuel, goggles, rain gear, etc. The extra minibags on both systems are essential kit for those.
Thank you guys for your great comedy explanations✌🏻😂🙌🏻
Recently being exploring the Hungarian TET near the danube river, crossing some overwhelming flooding water and muddy sections of that river🤪✌🏻Of course i flipped my ktm 790adv in a very muddy section and therefore i was so glad being equipped with my sw-motech trax Aluminium panniers✌🏻💪👍 The right pannier was half overed with mud and me & my ktm never been that muddy efore👀🤪😂😂 Never want to imagine how soft panniers may effect on all my gearings inside that pannier🤪🫣👀
For god's sake i could manage to pass that section, cause attitude really matters😉✌🏻✌🏻
This was one of the most enjoyable videos in a long time ... that I've watched on youtube!
You guys make a great and hilarious team.
Thanks for another fun and informative video! It's always great to laugh.
I have Lone Riders and one time I would've had a real problem not being able to detach them from the bike. I needed to squeeze through a small opening and luckily I didn't carry my gear. Later that day I took the red bag out, but all the stuff I needed for 2 weeks into it, folded the bags and went off. 2 weeks with very minimal gear was kind a frustrating. It was snowing and I had no spear clothing... I needed my camping gear
Great stuff guys, may just have to change out my old hard panniers for the semi-rigid. Great presentation with humour. love it.
Loved my Mosko Back Country set. 100% would buy again. Sadly had to sell them because I got rid of the big bike and wanted to go rackless on my new 701.
Nothing better than Mosko Moto. Love all their bags...
As a Canadian who loves Georgia (and surrounding areas) I wish you a good 2021 summer. This will be the second year in 16 years I won’t be riding The Smokies, staying in Suches, and telling lies around the campfire. Be safe, be kind to each other!
..............and all the GS-fan-boys are crying
Thank you very much big brothers 🤣 form Türkiye İstanbul we are following you and we are very much love you . We are have very big a enduro grup done meeting we are working yours lessons
Been watching your videos lately, very interesting. I quite like this Paul guy, funny; he's a keeper!
Paul and I teach all of the ADV training Camps and Tours together. We have been working together for over a decade.
@@BretTkacs you guys have a real good interaction, i love it!
Most humorous Bret Tkacs video I've seen.
Just switched from hard bags to the Mosko Moto Backcountry 35. I should have done this years ago.
Thinking about pulling the trigger on a Loan Rider Moto tent. Maybe you do a review on the tent sometime.
I just bought their ADV tent. Pretty good overall. I wish the zippers were a little higher quality, but the rest of it seems well-made. I'll be testing it out in the spring.
The real comparison should be Mosko vs. Bumot, closer in specs; but it appears it's Lone rider because it makes Mosko looks good. Bumot makes a superior product, plus you can swap from soft to hard cases with no mods to your rack.
I would really love a detailed video of the upgrades and modifications that you have done to your bike Bret.
It's on the list. Paul is going to do the same so I am hoping to campare. Is there any difference between the Touratech suspension and the Tractive? (Tractive makes the Touratech) also the Woody's built wheels vs Dubya built.
The wheels are nicer off road and suspension is always a noticable improvement but the combination is amazing. The issue is the price. It is a VERY expensive upgrade.
If it takes both clowns to pick up one bike you might want to find a different hobby... or stop dropping them on purpose.
If we have two, we use two... If we are solo then we lift them solo
Mosko for the win!
Great 👍. I had so much fun by watching the most laughing pannier comparison 😂. Thanks an greetings from Germany.
Tnx for bringing this vid, obviously, they both great solution for caring your gear, however, IMHO, Lone Rider top notch, they are Semi- Rigid, mean they are caring the advantages of both, Soft & Hard Panniers, capacity wise 45L & 38L same as BMW OEM (Unfortunately they downscaled the size, to 38L-31L which make no sense to me ) Molee Webbing, tons of options for attachments, they are lockable, you don't need to schlep them or worry when the bike is unattended, caring to the hotel rooms, well, this argument got very little merit, hotel rooms are, mainly, for Harley Guys, and besides, you just need to pull the waterproofed inner bag out and take only what you need, why should I schlep the whole thing into my hotel room .... they, literally, Undistractable, I met few guys along the ways complaining about the Mosko durability, pointing to open seams, worn straps Etc. My pickup is the 45L-38L Lone Rider, no doubt
Fun, informative, and also timely and relevant! My brother purchased the Lone Rider system, and I have been eyeing the Mosko Moto bags for head to head comparison. Thanks, guys!
How you guys liking each now?
Congratulations on that drone. Wish that was available in India. Have been trying to get it here
Nice video, thank you! Funny and informative at the same time :-) Sadly with poor audio quality :-/ Greetings from Hamburg/Germany :-)
Almost went for the Moskos but saw the LoneRiders and changed my mind. Enduristans were the first on my radar and I actually bought the 50l Tornado 2 in mind of buying the Monsoons. Happy with the Tornado though. From what I read the moskos are not waterproof. You need to use an inner bag (correct me if Im wrong) The LoneRiders are waterproof without the inner bag. Also being able to lock them was another reason for my change of heart. That and the various reviews and videos of them being dragged and surviving crashes with next to no damage is what swayed me. But yes.. the price... ouch! Mine will come with the new quick release system (July batch) but the older bags can be retro fitted with it. Also.. Customer service from LoneRider is fantastic and very informative! Same day reply from Anna. That also a huge selling point for me.
Looking forward to the long term review.
Straight comedy 🤣
Another GREAT video!!! THANKS!!
Congrats on your new drone. Although... I am convinced that your riding skills paired with your sense of humor alone will make for great videos to come. Better technology is just the icing on the cake, then.
On closing the LoneRider bags. The latch is actually offset so you can slide it into the metal part UNDER the bag. It's a lot cleaner. I think there is a video on it on the LoneRider RUclips page. I have them and love them. Thanks for the great video! (Edit: I did it that way for the first 3 or 4 months until I saw the video)
Good tip!
My Johnson is bigger and better than yours! Great product reviews of their gear.
I went with the Mosko bags as when I was searching around for the Lone rider bags everybody was having complaints about having them not delivered on time or logistical issues. So Mosko seems to have a great customer base and top notch service. So far I went with the 35 reckless set and the large duffle for the back and my only complaint is I don’t know why I didn’t go with these bags sooner over hard cases. Absolutely adore these.
I have the Mosko Reckless 80 ltr. After a very bad experience with the LoneRider tent in Norway, I can assure you, I will never ever spend a penny on anything LoneRider makes.
Single track = rackless system- period. GS is simply too heavy as well. Both these setups great for unmaintained fire road at best.
But if that’s what you like, both great setups I’m sure.
I like that rackless can fit on my 890 as well as my 350.
The Waldorf an Stadler of the ADV world ❤❤❤❤❤
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Awsome job guys, all the best from UK 🇬🇧
Hi sir.. just wanna seek yr professional advise… does the SW MOTEC quick release rack becomes loose after lots of vibrations?
Good review, informative and entertaining. I acquired the Mosko Backcountry panniers this winter and am looking forward to hitting the road with them in April. Ride safe...
Great video . Hope you guys can help , can you fit the Mosko Moto bags to the SW Motech luggage racks?
Yes, Paul and I are both using SW motech racks however we have the older oval tubes not the new flat bar. The newer ones require you to drill a couple of holes to use the Mosko pucks.
@@BretTkacs Brilliant, thank you.
All this great, but the issue is remembering where you put what. I just did Houston to Wyoming to Nebraska back to Houston trip using Kriega bags. They worked great, water proof etc. But if I needed something I’d have to look through all the bags to find it. And inevitably what I needed would be at the back of the last bag I checked. It would be awesome to have one big bag that cover the tail and sides. Open with one zip and everything is there to see. Maybe I’m dreaming
Best comedy I have seen for a while with useful information. Paul is a hoot!
While not as fast to disconnect, I like the ADV Rider mounts because I do a lot of day trips without paniers and being able to remove most of the rack that quickly would be a benefit for me when doing more gnarly stuff either on a day trip or a truck camping adventure. Then if only removing once a day to go sleep in a motel room, really not that big of a deal to remove. Although if it's that easy to remove with a screw driver and you can just cut them open with a knife, I don't see much use in the padlock.
Made in China, priced like their made in America, profit margins must be off the charts... Same quality as a Tusk bag.... If they send me a new set for free, I'll be a fanboy...
Can't wait for a review on the Lone Rider bags. And I think just like many others that you two should do more videos together!