I stated to stay tuned at the end for some cool comparisons and why you might want to choose LP Smartside over other claddings....That was before I split this video into 2 videos. I will post that as soon as possible. Thanks
I read the entire Ryan's ruclips.net/user/postUgkxGqOCINHE0Z0E5gxzSdNi9NWGugRY5Hm2 Plans and was able to make a shed plan. Using Ryan's Shed Plans alone, the shed itself is great. Where I wish I knew more is with respect to ground preparation and foundations. Maybe that's beyond the scope of Ryan's Shed Plans.
The way you speak and coach people is so amazing! I would love to work with and for you. I’m currently learning from a 55 year old grump who don’t say two words and acts like he hates me lol
Kyle, I circled back around to this video series as I’m taking notes for my duplex, and how to properly execute the vertical board and batten installation w/ the required rain screen. You guys are awesome bro, and God bless you guys on dealing with LP Corporate, they’re something else.l 😂 hopefully they mellowed out over the past three years!
Hard Hat & Ladder Safety (second step to top). Looks like an L-n-I job video. You do great work Kyle and thanks for all your videos I am a fan of your work. If I could stand the winters in IL I would consider moving there just to have you build me a home. Take Care keep up the great work, and say Hi to the best partner a person could have Greg.
I like that board and batten look. What's the life span of those rain screen furring strips that are used, and would pressure treated last longer ? Thanks, thumbs up !
The whole thing was a little bit clumsy but that's why I like these videos. They're not over produced. And I still think that professional editing is the worst.
Could one install the vertical siding over furring strips attached to concrete blocks? I would like to side my masonry chimney this way: furr out the chimney, attach the siding. What kind of nails would I use? Thanks.
someone help me out. if you're using this or ZIP panels that are water proof, why do a rain screen? whats worse, a small chance water gets into the batten or bugs crawling up and make a home in that gap you made. what did you do at the bottom for bugs if you did take care of that?
It’s to allow the space behind the siding to breath otherwise you have a huge flat area of contact with vertical siding only... not needed when installing horizontal lap
Seeing Kyle prominently holding an empire level in a close-up shot makes me feel like less of a cheapskate for grabbing a cheap level at the big box store. I did inherit a beautiful 6' Stabila and will only purchase them going forward.
Curious, I was looking at the install specs and it says as long as it has WRB behind it, it’s good to go. Is it requirement to have the furring strips behind the siding if for instance tyvek is covering the house?
Yeah my sun hood broke that day. It was pretty bright so I needed to improvise. Had no idea there was a camera behind me filming for his RUclips channel lol. I was just there to shoot an LP commercial
New to the channel and i'm really enjoying it! Been wanting to do this as a career for awhile now.. but I still don't know a legitimate way to get into this field. Every carpentry job requires experience and i have MINIMAL experience (around the house stuff). What would you recommend for getting into this line of work? I hope to have my own renovation business one day because i've really enjoyed everything I have done so far. Thanks again for all the great information you put out for free!
I've been watching Kyle for a long time I hate to say but escalating success tends to go to people's head. I'm starting to see these signs. Best of luck to ya dude
The smart siding is made in Dawson creek b.c where i live i think its one of the only plants that can make it ? Its the only reason that mill didint shut down
My GC turned me on to Smartside when making a B&B siding decision. Other than being more resilient in comparison to vinyl, most vinyl B&B aren’t wider than 10 inches. That’s a lot of vertical lines...16 inch width is perfect! Do they make anything wider in smartside B&B than 16?!? 24 inches would be even better!
Why exactly are the furring battens done at 8" nominal spacing if the boards are fastened only along the edges. What is the center furring batten batten doing? And which LP product is used for the exterior battens? Is it the 190 series 2.50" w x .563" trim board?
Please tell me, is it possible to use "flood" solid stain on LP? I want the color of real cedar but cant afford real wood! Will a stain product stay on?
I had LP composite lap siding on my home built in 1986. By 1993 about 60% of it, according to their inspector, had swelled and mold growing behind it. The class action LP siding lawsuit gave me around $800 compensation. I resided with Hardie plank which has performed well. LP Smartside may be an ok product but LP burned me once and won't get me again.
You should use your speed square as a gauge and put a batten strip line on the soffit board. Its easy to do while laying flat on the cut table. I would consider finish nails in the battens. We have used them on Hardie batten strips for years, zero problems. Should of brought the track saws.
Your furring strips are not covered with a house wrap (Tyvec), so that the back of the siding is not in contact with a WRB. Does this agree with LP installation instructions?
What nails are you using? I can’t find the nails that lp requires for this . Definitely can’t get them for that metabo nailer you are using either . You go with .092?
Why isn't a rain screen required behind the horizontal siding? Where I live we always use a rain screen, and for vertical siding we use a "double" rain screen (first row vertical, then another row horzontal).
I'm callin BS on the hardhat after seeing the guy that told You to put it on isn't wearing one... If they wanted the hardhats on as part of a standard then they should be wearing them onsite also... Everyone... No exceptions.
It's all about perception, not about reality. What about footwear? What about hi-vis clothing with reflective tape? But, yes...taller ladder...most definitely
Peel the T1-11 off, apply sheathing of your choice (plus house wrap if raw OSB), put sleepers on and put the board and battens on. Easiest thing to do is when you cut the sleepers for the rain screen spacing is run em on a table saw, then set your corner, make a spacer/jig that is the 16” minus half the width of the sleeper plus the 3/16” needed for the spacing so the space doesn’t grow on you like happened in this video, and then using the spacer jig like he did but you don’t have to rip down and paint the vertical panels.
I liked the vertical till I saw the nail heads on the strips. There has to be a better way of attaching those strips. Even a grk trim screw would look better aesthetically
When we're installing vertical we'll smear a dab sealant over every nail head and then touch up paint that. It adds some labor, but the heads are completely hidden.
Old comment, but that’s the whole point of board and bat, the real stuff anyway. Boards get a nail down the center and the battens get nailed between the boards….allowing the wood to move.
@@RRBuildings But you don't do this work on a weekly basis anymore. Think that was his point. Anyone who has watched your channel for a while knows your background. It's nice to see the work. My local supplier is having a class next week on the same products. At almost 60 years old I thought why not, I have a few years left before my body gives out.
So they make a product that is 16" that requires a 3/16 gap, and they expect the carpenter to add all that together? Sounds like a engineered product all right, engineered by engineers who have never worked construction.
No shit. What would they say to do on a remodel over foam board where you have to hit the stud to hang anything??? "Well... I guess you could hang a few panels before the edge stops catching a stud" Sounds brilliant. How hard would it be to engineer it at 15 3/4" or 15 13/16"?!
@@gmburzynski68 so after thinking about this I think what they are using is actually soffit material just stood on end. That makes sense since rarely have I seen real board and Batton with 16" boards! 12" is the biggest I have seen.
You are correct it is OSB. It will fail at the base of the wall. LP knows it will fail but will not acknowledge it . “Just buy this cheap stuff and walk away” Contractors who have a care will avoid ever installing the stuff! I care and refuse to use LP products!
Why are you running vertical furring on vertical siding? I always run my furring perpendicular to the siding. OSB is probably not the best choice: it will get wet.
@@jeffreylonigro1382 The purpose of the rain screen is to provide a gap behind the siding for any trapped water to flow down and out. Those strips therefore have to be run vertical. If they were horizontal, they would block the flow of water.
Nick Garwood nah...I can’t tell you how much siding I’ve peeled off homes on remodels/additions with furring running horizontally and Never saw a rotted furring strip. Ever. Furring isn’t going to get soaked. Capillary action and wind can get it wet, but it doesn’t stay wet for long.
Hey mate. Love your videos. Went to the LP website and can't find the 16" boards you are using. Did you custom make those? I love the idea of having more ability to check how level you are by installing 16" boards vs a 4x8' sheet. Any help would be great. Cheers. (hopefully you check these comments)
"LP wasn't to sell weatherlogic due to settlement of infringement suit" Took that porion by highlighting and clicking search and this is one article that offers the best result imo to what you are asking and possibly implying: www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/article/huber-settles-infringement-lawsuit-over-zip-system-sheathing here is an earlier date article: www.sbcmag.info/news/2019/feb/huber-files-lawsuit-against-lp-over-new-sheathing Try googling it for yourself next time.
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I stated to stay tuned at the end for some cool comparisons and why you might want to choose LP Smartside over other claddings....That was before I split this video into 2 videos. I will post that as soon as possible. Thanks
I read the entire Ryan's ruclips.net/user/postUgkxGqOCINHE0Z0E5gxzSdNi9NWGugRY5Hm2 Plans and was able to make a shed plan. Using Ryan's Shed Plans alone, the shed itself is great. Where I wish I knew more is with respect to ground preparation and foundations. Maybe that's beyond the scope of Ryan's Shed Plans.
The way you speak and coach people is so amazing! I would love to work with and for you. I’m currently learning from a 55 year old grump who don’t say two words and acts like he hates me lol
Kyle, I circled back around to this video series as I’m taking notes for my duplex, and how to properly execute the vertical board and batten installation w/ the required rain screen. You guys are awesome bro, and God bless you guys on dealing with LP Corporate, they’re something else.l 😂 hopefully they mellowed out over the past three years!
Hard Hat & Ladder Safety (second step to top). Looks like an L-n-I job video. You do great work Kyle and thanks for all your videos I am a fan of your work. If I could stand the winters in IL I would consider moving there just to have you build me a home. Take Care keep up the great work, and say Hi to the best partner a person could have Greg.
Looks like you made the big time Kyle. Congratulations
Wouldn't you only need furring strips every 16 inches? or would the 16 inch wide board flex without the middle furring strip?
Kyle, if you gotta wear a hard hat installing LP SmartSide, I think for safety reasons they should have provided you with a longer ladder.
I have smartside on my 🏠 , almost for 12 year's and I love it
G00D Afternoon from Auckland, New Zealand it’s Sunday, February 9, 2020.
Curious as to why you use zeros (0's) instead of actual letter O's in "GOOD"? Notice how mine uses the letter and not the number.
@@Joshua79C Arrr …I find I get more comments on the Zeros than 0h’s ….lol……..
I like that board and batten look. What's the life span of those rain screen furring strips that are used, and would pressure treated last longer ? Thanks, thumbs up !
mad respect for the red bull box as sun hood
Makes him wear a hard hat but can’t get him a taller ladder 😂
The whole thing was a little bit clumsy but that's why I like these videos. They're not over produced. And I still think that professional editing is the worst.
72 peeps on the job site, 1 hard hat. Plug for LP hard hats.?? Am I missing something?
Maybe they saw him use the ladder, and decided he needed to be wearing a hard hat. Lol
How you divided the gables end and the wall to make look good and avoid leaks
Could one install the vertical siding over furring strips attached to concrete blocks? I would like to side my masonry chimney this way: furr out the chimney, attach the siding. What kind of nails would I use? Thanks.
someone help me out. if you're using this or ZIP panels that are water proof, why do a rain screen? whats worse, a small chance water gets into the batten or bugs crawling up and make a home in that gap you made. what did you do at the bottom for bugs if you did take care of that?
It’s to allow the space behind the siding to breath otherwise you have a huge flat area of contact with vertical siding only... not needed when installing horizontal lap
@@RRBuildings that’s like a million dollars of strips needed now for my home and garage! Plus nails and labor.
Can you do a video on how you got your education and experience in the trade. I'm looking to make a career change and want to know where to start
Killer Redbull sponsored cameraman.LOL Great video!
Nice RedBull Cover = Camera power 125%
Seeing Kyle prominently holding an empire level in a close-up shot makes me feel like less of a cheapskate for grabbing a cheap level at the big box store. I did inherit a beautiful 6' Stabila and will only purchase them going forward.
Joe Silva Sr haha stabila is all
I’d buy but taking them on an airplane is a pain
"Hey, it's a camera. Seems like a good place to stand. Wonder what that red light means..."
The camera, with a Red Bull hood shade. And a matte box with no filter and no flags. LOL
What Is a LP house? Sorry for ignorance but Italy builds totally different😅thank you so much for sharing your Deep knowledge of Building skills🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Seems like a real oversight for LP to make the vertical siding 16" on size
Its not designed to be vertical siding. Its made for soffit.
Curious, I was looking at the install specs and it says as long as it has WRB behind it, it’s good to go. Is it requirement to have the furring strips behind the siding if for instance tyvek is covering the house?
Great video learned a lot , love the LP smartside product, wow a little hectic on the jobsite.
Yes it was
LP does not require any gap between the 16'x16" panels. I was told that by a higher-up at LP.
12:13 that light blocking technology 👌
Time to invest in a Hoodman.
Yeah my sun hood broke that day. It was pretty bright so I needed to improvise. Had no idea there was a camera behind me filming for his RUclips channel lol. I was just there to shoot an LP commercial
Looking forward to seeing you incorporate LP Smartside in your post frame build
New to the channel and i'm really enjoying it! Been wanting to do this as a career for awhile now.. but I still don't know a legitimate way to get into this field. Every carpentry job requires experience and i have MINIMAL experience (around the house stuff). What would you recommend for getting into this line of work? I hope to have my own renovation business one day because i've really enjoyed everything I have done so far. Thanks again for all the great information you put out for free!
Slikk Talk is find a good local contractor to work with
I've been watching Kyle for a long time I hate to say but escalating success tends to go to people's head. I'm starting to see these signs. Best of luck to ya dude
All of your projects with that have been white. Does that siding come in other colors or do you paint it?
you paint it
The smart siding is made in Dawson creek b.c where i live i think its one of the only plants that can make it ? Its the only reason that mill didint shut down
My GC turned me on to Smartside when making a B&B siding decision. Other than being more resilient in comparison to vinyl, most vinyl B&B aren’t wider than 10 inches. That’s a lot of vertical lines...16 inch width is perfect! Do they make anything wider in smartside B&B than 16?!? 24 inches would be even better!
Why exactly are the furring battens done at 8" nominal spacing if the boards are fastened only along the edges. What is the center furring batten batten doing? And which LP product is used for the exterior battens? Is it the 190 series 2.50" w x .563" trim board?
I was looking for LP installation videos and I stumbled upon el Canelo Alvarez installing LP siding buen trabajo senor
You always wear a hard hat when you stand on the top step of your ladder osha loves that
Agree lol
What is that orange tool that you where using for the lap siding distance, I made a stick for my front of the house.
Sounds like a Fred Flintstone. "I made a stick"! yabba dabba dooo.
Traditionally I have seen a horizontal board across the bottom of a Board and Batten installation, you are not using one, why not and when should you?
Kyle, wouldn’t nailing all those strips up put your sheathing at risk or compromise it? Water I mean
I'm curious about that also, seems that pressure treated or strips covered with an ice and water shield would be better ?
Good for a blooper reel.
Could u use a 15gauge instead of the ring shanks for the 5/4 boards? The paint allways wears off the head of the nails and they stand out
I would rather have the horizontal lap like you and Greg did on his place!!!
We also install that in the next video
I wear a hard hat all day long. Some people in my apartment building have never seen me without it. It is like a baseball cap to me.
Do you need spacers behind the smart board? Or can you nail it directly
Is the board and batten vertical siding plus lp trim over it. Or does it all come as a package when you order vertical
ok, this year you will surely win the Oscar in the Civil Carpenters category.😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂👍👍❤️
They say too many cooks spoil the broth. In this case a big production crew spoils Kyle's shots.
Nice behind the scenes. Folks don’t seem to care about the fact that you are making a video? Lol 👍
Brother those ear pcs you're wearing, are they noise cancelling? If so who makes them?
Please tell me, is it possible to use "flood" solid stain on LP? I want the color of real cedar but cant afford real wood! Will a stain product stay on?
Your videos are just getting better and better, its a pleasure to sit back and watch!
LP siding is a bunch of sticklers that won’t let my man run his show the way he wants. Way to go LP, I think I’ll go with the competitor!
Why not use lp 4x8 sheets no groove ,and put up up 2" lp trim?
Your tools link isn’t working! Can you give me the link for the siding gap tool?
I had LP composite lap siding on my home built in 1986. By 1993 about 60% of it, according to their inspector, had swelled and mold growing behind it. The class action LP siding lawsuit gave me around $800 compensation. I resided with Hardie plank which has performed well. LP Smartside may be an ok product but LP burned me once and won't get me again.
Understand that frustration… totally different products and all warranties will prorate
You should use your speed square as a gauge and put a batten strip line on the soffit board.
Its easy to do while laying flat on the cut table.
I would consider finish nails in the battens.
We have used them on Hardie batten strips for years, zero problems.
Should of brought the track saws.
Your furring strips are not covered with a house wrap (Tyvec), so that the back of the siding is not in contact with a WRB. Does this agree with LP installation instructions?
no housewrap needed as the OSB sheathing that is used here has a built in WRB, better than older housewrap application and its similar to Zip System
What nails are you using? I can’t find the nails that lp requires for this . Definitely can’t get them for that metabo nailer you are using either . You go with .092?
I can’t find that size either
Why isn't a rain screen required behind the horizontal siding? Where I live we always use a rain screen, and for vertical siding we use a "double" rain screen (first row vertical, then another row horzontal).
I'm callin BS on the hardhat after seeing the guy that told You to put it on isn't wearing one... If they wanted the hardhats on as part of a standard then they should be wearing them onsite also... Everyone... No exceptions.
It's only for the people on camera so that it looks like they're keeping to safety standards
It's all about perception, not about reality. What about footwear? What about hi-vis clothing with reflective tape?
But, yes...taller ladder...most definitely
Do what they say not as what they do! Management figure heads blah blah blah.....
Does this not need to be nailed to the framing? Just the sheathing?
It can be nailed to sheathing only, but we nailed thru to framing .... changes the nailing pattern and potentially nail being used
I'd love to see the building science for updating an older t1-11 with weather logic and siding.
Peel the T1-11 off, apply sheathing of your choice (plus house wrap if raw OSB), put sleepers on and put the board and battens on. Easiest thing to do is when you cut the sleepers for the rain screen spacing is run em on a table saw, then set your corner, make a spacer/jig that is the 16” minus half the width of the sleeper plus the 3/16” needed for the spacing so the space doesn’t grow on you like happened in this video, and then using the spacer jig like he did but you don’t have to rip down and paint the vertical panels.
Good Jobs😀 I like you video.
12:20 Little does RedBull know they are creating camera accessories by the millions.
user990077 yo! I went looking for this comment 😂 I skipped all the talking landed at this time. Pissed myself laughing
😁 my sunhood broke that day. Had to improvise
Great video. Quick questions, are the battens 16 inch spaces? Or 8 inch?
I cannot find where I can purchase this Board and batten siding? And the price of it.
Hey Kyle at the start of the video what is the reveal on that lap siding and what series is it 38 or 76 and is that the same reveal at 7:48? Thanks
That camera rig at 13:00. Omg. That is hilarious. But looks like it works.
It worked better than most sunhoods I’ve used. My actual sunhood broke that day
Do I need those tack strips if my walls are solid plywood? What's the purpose?
I liked the vertical till I saw the nail heads on the strips. There has to be a better way of attaching those strips. Even a grk trim screw would look better aesthetically
When we're installing vertical we'll smear a dab sealant over every nail head and then touch up paint that. It adds some labor, but the heads are completely hidden.
Old comment, but that’s the whole point of board and bat, the real stuff anyway. Boards get a nail down the center and the battens get nailed between the boards….allowing the wood to move.
Did Kyle make the sun screen view box/Red Bull box for the camera man
No
Lol no I did, my sunhood broke that day and it was pretty bright outside 😁
Awesome stuff Kyle! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
dont forget your hardhat as I walk around without one
Hello Mr Kyle. Was wondering if you happen to sell peoject plans for the DIYer? Your buildings are awesome but I love in the PNW. Love the channel🤙
5:23 Engineered? Take a close look. Tape says 15 15/16 inches. (Lower side of tape says 7/8") because tape is slanted.
@Leopold The gap is 3/16. He said they are exactly 16" long. Go back to the whatever.
I wonder why they choose a guy that installs barn tin for a siding promotion, maybe because of his large social media presence?
I have done smartside many times... I was home builder and have lots of experience in residential.
@@RRBuildings that's the part I dont get... how could you get a license with a CS background? Do you not need one there?
@@RRBuildings But you don't do this work on a weekly basis anymore. Think that was his point. Anyone who has watched your channel for a while knows your background. It's nice to see the work. My local supplier is having a class next week on the same products. At almost 60 years old I thought why not, I have a few years left before my body gives out.
What is the cost of the 8” siding over the primed only lap siding
So they make a product that is 16" that requires a 3/16 gap, and they expect the carpenter to add all that together? Sounds like a engineered product all right, engineered by engineers who have never worked construction.
No shit. What would they say to do on a remodel over foam board where you have to hit the stud to hang anything??? "Well... I guess you could hang a few panels before the edge stops catching a stud" Sounds brilliant. How hard would it be to engineer it at 15 3/4" or 15 13/16"?!
We all know engineers are the best!! Just because they have paper on the wall, does not mean they know SQUAT
@@gmburzynski68 so after thinking about this I think what they are using is actually soffit material just stood on end. That makes sense since rarely have I seen real board and Batton with 16" boards! 12" is the biggest I have seen.
Yes they've cleared 200k a year to butcher the auto industry why dont they just leave us alone 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤣🤣
Where can I get one of those RedBull viewfinders?
New nickname: Hollywood Kyle
Hold up, is smartside just OSB?
You are correct it is OSB.
It will fail at the base of the wall.
LP knows it will fail but will not acknowledge it .
“Just buy this cheap stuff and walk away”
Contractors who have a care will avoid ever installing the stuff!
I care and refuse to use LP products!
What lengths does this siding come in?
Why are you running vertical furring on vertical siding? I always run my furring perpendicular to the siding. OSB is probably not the best choice: it will get wet.
It's not furring, it's a rain screen.
Nick Garwood what’s the difference?
@@jeffreylonigro1382 The purpose of the rain screen is to provide a gap behind the siding for any trapped water to flow down and out. Those strips therefore have to be run vertical. If they were horizontal, they would block the flow of water.
It is smartside product... it is treated and meant for use like this
Nick Garwood nah...I can’t tell you how much siding I’ve peeled off homes on remodels/additions with furring running horizontally and Never saw a rotted furring strip. Ever. Furring isn’t going to get soaked. Capillary action and wind can get it wet, but it doesn’t stay wet for long.
Hi RR
Could you not just run the rain screen diagonally so it wouldn’t be so many battens?
What nails or screws are you using
Hey mate. Love your videos. Went to the LP website and can't find the 16" boards you are using. Did you custom make those? I love the idea of having more ability to check how level you are by installing 16" boards vs a 4x8' sheet. Any help would be great. Cheers. (hopefully you check these comments)
This is their vertical
Siding
RR Buildings ok. I might not understand how to use their website. But not seeing it. I’ll have to give them a call I guess. Thanks.
It’s soffit panels not siding
How do you call this material? Where I can find it?
Good info👍👍👍
Cool stuff! Just stay in Texas and help me build my barn... lol
Why the price of building a Home is out of this world…..ask these guys.
Never seen the answer: but I thought LP wasn't to sell weatherlogic due to settlement of infringement suit?????
"LP wasn't to sell weatherlogic due to settlement of infringement suit" Took that porion by highlighting and clicking search and this is one article that offers the best result imo to what you are asking and possibly implying:
www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/article/huber-settles-infringement-lawsuit-over-zip-system-sheathing
here is an earlier date article:
www.sbcmag.info/news/2019/feb/huber-files-lawsuit-against-lp-over-new-sheathing
Try googling it for yourself next time.
Hey what nail gun is that?
No; the bang it a bird scare gun.
T111 vs the 16" wide panels & batten would seem a less expensive & less labor intensive product.
My question is: what are the differences, benefits?
Funny you had to wear a hard hat but the cameraman didn’t have one. 😂😂
We were shooting a separate commercial for LP that day. Didn’t have anything to do with the RUclips channel
Do have to cover the seems with the wood strips
What kind of ear plugs do you use?
What?
@@cuttheknot4781, That's gold Jerry...GOLD !!!
looks like Canelo Alvares knows a thing or two about construction.
If I had a dollar every time I have head that lol
Well, he is Mexican, construction is in their blood
Alvarez*
Why wouldn’t you use LP panels?